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post #151 of 559
7/3/12 at 9:00pm
The framing is slightly different which is usually an indicator of a new scan. The film grain looks far, far more natural, as well. As far as not seeing a ton more detail, probably largely a factor of the photography. Those new shots look great, looking forward to this. I am not buying the usual AVS conspiracy theories on this one (i.e., studio: "Yeah, let's trick those AVS weenies and use a fake grain effect while manipulating the color framing, and contrast. Bahahaha").
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post #152 of 559
7/3/12 at 9:16pm
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As far as not seeing a ton more detail, probably largely a factor of the photography.
Not sure what people expect really, the detail looks about in line with other films shot on the mid/late-80s high speed film stocks, like Aliens, Criterion's 4K transfer of Broadcast News, the remastered Wall Street...
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post #153 of 559
7/3/12 at 11:13pm
For the record I never said the older version looked better. I was just trying to present information that may be beneficial to some. I'm still buying the special edition, even though I'm not really in love with the new color timing. But I do like the fact it's not slathered with DNR and edge enhancement. And I don't think Sharon Stone has ever looked hotter.
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post #154 of 559
7/4/12 at 1:23am
Is this Special Edition different from the Australian Special Edition (Universal/Studio Canal) released in 2010?

I also have a UK Studio Canal version from 2008: too many versions floating around.
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post #155 of 559
7/4/12 at 6:49am
@IanD
Yeah it's different.
This Blu-ray boasts a new, director-supervised transfer. Normally... biggrin.gif
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post #156 of 559
7/4/12 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by 42041 View Post

Not sure what people expect really, the detail looks about in line with other films shot on the mid/late-80s high speed film stocks, like Aliens, Criterion's 4K transfer of Broadcast News, the remastered Wall Street...

Pretty sure that was Fox funded
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post #157 of 559
7/4/12 at 9:59am
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Pretty sure that was Fox funded
Does it matter? The transfer was done by Criterion, but at 2K not 4K.
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post #158 of 559
7/4/12 at 12:08pm
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Does it matter? The transfer was done by Criterion, but at 2K not 4K.

Accuracy in a thread where carefully chosen words are at issue is paramount
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post #159 of 559
7/4/12 at 7:19pm
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@IanD
Yeah it's different.
This Blu-ray boasts a new, director-supervised transfer. Normally... biggrin.gif

Annoying that they call both versions Special Edition then, as it becomes difficult to distinguish between them: for all the consumer knows, the 2012 version could just be a repackaging/re-release of the 2010 Aussie SE.

In fact, without someone identifying any benefits of the 2012 version, I would be more likely to think the 2012 SE was a re-release of the 2010 SE and not bother to re-purchase. If the studio wants my money in a multiple dip, they really have to make more of an effort to sell me on it and that means ensuring it doesn't get confused with previous releases.
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post #160 of 559
7/5/12 at 10:21am
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Annoying that they call both versions Special Edition then, as it becomes difficult to distinguish between them: for all the consumer knows, the 2012 version could just be a repackaging/re-release of the 2010 Aussie SE.
In fact, without someone identifying any benefits of the 2012 version, I would be more likely to think the 2012 SE was a re-release of the 2010 SE and not bother to re-purchase. If the studio wants my money in a multiple dip, they really have to make more of an effort to sell me on it and that means ensuring it doesn't get confused with previous releases.

The new release is called the "Mind-Bending Edition" in North America, and the "Ultimate Rekall Edition" in the UK.
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post #161 of 559
7/7/12 at 2:55pm
Blu-ray.com review of the UK release.
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post #162 of 559
7/7/12 at 6:15pm
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Blu-ray.com review of the UK release.

Those caps look great. Wish they could get ROBOCOP looking that good.
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post #163 of 559
7/8/12 at 4:49am
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Those caps look great. Wish they could get ROBOCOP looking that good.
The remake is coming out next year so there's a good chance. I wonder which Verhoeven film are they going to remake next? biggrin.gif

Update: Okay, it looks like Starship Troopers will be next.
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post #164 of 559
7/8/12 at 6:56am
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The remake is coming out next year so there's a good chance. I wonder which Verhoeven film are they going to remake next? biggrin.gif
Update: Okay, it looks like Starship Troopers will be next.

I was going to make a joke about Showgirls, but then I remembered that last year's Burlesque was pretty much a PG-13 remake of that already.
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post #165 of 559
7/8/12 at 11:51am
And speaking of Showgirls, it was beautifully remastered for the Blu-ray release by MGM. More hope for remastered RoboCop. cool.gif
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post #166 of 559
7/8/12 at 3:14pm
That Blu-Ray.com review is very hopeful. I'm definitely getting this (again!) tongue.gif
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post #167 of 559
7/8/12 at 3:31pm
Really people? Reviews? From that site....
Edited by dvdmike007 - 7/8/12 at 5:05pm
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post #168 of 559
7/8/12 at 4:42pm
New transfer look very Aliens. Strong teal push and similar grain density and sharpness.
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post #169 of 559
7/8/12 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

New transfer look very Aliens. Strong teal push and similar grain density and sharpness.

I liked (mostly) with what they did with Aliens, so I will be pretty stoked for this Total Recall wink.gif
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post #170 of 559
7/8/12 at 7:44pm
I was looking at my Total Recall BD last night., It has DTS-HI RES 6.1 audio. Isn't this new version only in 5.1? I'm guessing it should be using a lossless HD Audio codec instead of a lossy one like the older BD?
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post #171 of 559
7/10/12 at 10:14am
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As your attorney, I advise you not to worry.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/133716
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/133719
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/133720
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/133721
The middle two may not be the exact same frames given how still those shots are.
Yeah based on those, the 2008 release looks much better. The new shots have weird color timing, and are darker. There is only more detail in that one shot of the wall next to Arnold. Is this new color timing the way it was always meant to look supposedly? Because the 1st shot has a green Matrix tint...
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post #172 of 559
7/10/12 at 10:41am
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Is this new color timing the way it was always meant to look supposedly?
Haven't heard anything to suggest that was the intent. I imagine it's how Verhoeven meant it to look in 2012.

Unfortunate that people still confuse sharpening with real detail..
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post #173 of 559
7/10/12 at 8:09pm
An explanation for why the light levels were lowered for this sequence is the intent to replicate evening conditions because that's where the scene ends. Digital colorists having the ability to alter the lighting outside the windows—this is a missed opportunity to actually play the scene at night.
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post #174 of 559
7/11/12 at 4:16pm
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An explanation for why the light levels were lowered for this sequence is the intent to replicate evening conditions because that's where the scene ends. Digital colorists having the ability to alter the lighting outside the windows—this is a missed opportunity to actually play the scene at night.


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It looks like crap, and looks like took 10 mins and is far from state of the art.
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post #175 of 559
7/11/12 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

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It looks like crap, and looks like took 10 mins and is far from state of the art.
And what would "state of the art" look like?
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post #176 of 559
7/11/12 at 5:19pm
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And what would "state of the art" look like?


Bridge on the River Kwai, Evil Dead, Rocky Horror, The Thin Red Line, Rushmore, Raiders Of the Lost Ark (LP TV VERSION), Barbarella, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Manhattan, Star Trek TNG sample disc. any more?
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post #177 of 559
7/11/12 at 5:29pm
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Bridge on the River Kwai, Evil Dead, Rocky Horror, The Thin Red Line, Rushmore, Raiders Of the Lost Ark (LP TV VERSION), Barbarella, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Manhattan, Star Trek TNG sample disc. any more?
I don't see how this is lower quality than those transfers, considering the visual content, format, and film stock it was shot on. Do you have the UK disc already or are we still talking screenshots?
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post #178 of 559
7/11/12 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by 42041 View Post

I don't see how this is lower quality than those transfers, considering the visual content, format, and film stock it was shot on. Do you have the UK disc already or are we still talking screenshots?

Are you seriously joking? I am shocked you made that statement that this

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Looks as good as this

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I can not take anything you say about PQ seriously in the future, that dark shot has more in common with the Dracula disc.
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post #179 of 559
7/11/12 at 6:17pm
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I don't judge a transfer by one screenshot from one scene. Which conveniently happens to be the worst looking screenshot you can find. Ridiculous.
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post #180 of 559
7/11/12 at 6:20pm
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I don't judge a transfer by one screenshot from one scene. Which conveniently happens to be the worst looking screenshot you can find. Ridiculous.

You said it, a great transfer should not even have that frame in it, let alone a whole scene.
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