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post #1351 of 2169
Fair enough. I eventually found the relevant information in the download manual, pages 132, 133, 150.

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201203/20120307193044523/X9DVBEU4E-ENG.pdf

The reason I dislike the manual so much is that it is not specific to the model, and contains nothing to tell you which features apply to your particular model - for example, page 134 talks about 3D (which I definitely do not have). Car manuals do the same thing - tell you what various knobs and buttons do and then you find you haven't got them, or seem to have them but they don't do what it says.
post #1352 of 2169
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Originally Posted by flobo View Post

Yes, it was a typo. The manual does state 1080p24 ( https://tec6xq.blu.livefilestore.com/y2pOVfrAdBjPwYFCCOM4EFCwWCAXpuzjPtyYJxoN3K_yhGEQ3qpv5OVqvne9C7BH3O3tDOsOCPWTn3h8kcgv7DzUsSrpHHRzpXze167efZF0sw/WP_20130507.jpg?psid=1)

I checked this before buying the tv because i didn't want a tv that could not play 90% of movies available today... I tried it some more yesterday evening but no luck, it simply won't play 1080p24 content properly. I would expect that from an early hdtv released in 2007, not 2013. And even then, my previous 32' samsung tv bought 5 years ago played 24hz movies perfectly... I'll have to keep using it then.


Well at least, the new tv can still be used as a big screen for ps3 games since it supports 60hz.....

I swear, the next time i buy a tv, i'm going into the store with my laptop and an external bluray player to try it out for myself and not be ripoff like this again.

I don't have any issues with 24fps content, maybe your problem is related to your streaming server rather than the tv. Try the same content directly instead of streaming it.
post #1353 of 2169
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Originally Posted by rbmaster View Post

I don't have any issues with 24fps content, maybe your problem is related to your streaming server rather than the tv. Try the same content directly instead of streaming it.
Tried it with desktop pc, laptop pc and directly via ps3, it won't play smoothly. The exact same problem appear with each device.

But with my older samsung LE32B350, same bluray, same settings, it plays perfectly at 24p.
post #1354 of 2169
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Edited by PobjoySpecial - 5/16/13 at 2:32pm
post #1355 of 2169
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Originally Posted by PobjoySpecial View Post

The EH5000 series are 60Hz, so they can only display 24fps content using 3:2 pulldown.

The biggest reason people buy the EH6000 is for the 120Hz panel and judder-free playback via 5:5 pulldown.
Thanks for the information. So that was indeed telecine i was seeing. In that case, the manuals ans online spechs are VERY misleading. I'll try to see if i can not return it and change.
Edited by flobo - 5/7/13 at 10:01pm
post #1356 of 2169
In the UK (50Hz mains, analogue broadcast TV PAL 25fps 2:1 interleaved), it was normal to speed up 24fps cine to 25fps for broadcast. What they do now I am not sure (probably the same, because it's easy and a 4% speed increase is not significant).
post #1357 of 2169
They still do that, but bluray are 1080p24p worldwide (save for european productions which are 1080i50 since bluray do not support 1080p25).

When watching a movie/series you already know, you cna definitively notice the 4 % increase, specially in theme tunes.
post #1358 of 2169
I could use some help understanding the capability on the EH5300 series TVs (I'm looking at the 32"). I've been unable to find definitive answers to any of these as of yet...
  1. All of the websites where I have found it for sale claim it has Wi-Fi built in, but the Samsung website indicates it does not. Which is it?
  2. Does the TV support DLNA from any DLNA server, or are only Samsung devices supported?
  3. What video formats does it support via DLNA?

Thanks for the help,

Bruce
post #1359 of 2169
Hi guys,I found this thread/forum after buying a Samsung EH5300 40 INCH led smart tv set, got it for the bedroom, the mRs is not to happy lol but there you go!
I have been reading a good few pages and cant find the best settings that you guys recommend, could someone post a link up just to see if it improves the picture quality please.
Also how do i know which panel I have and does it matter? if so why does it matter so much?
How do i get to the service menu to enable PVR and PIP?
Im well happy with the set, Ive a panasonic Plasma in the living room and thats great but this set is fantastic, I have removed my WD live streamer as I have both my hard drives plugged straight into the TV, plays MKV's without any problems, sound is not bad to considering its a Sammy:)
I have tried to share with my laptop without any success, although videos play fine via my Phone, I have the Samsung remote installed on my phone and thats great too!
sorry to ask so many questions, not that great with technology, this forum looks great btw.
Cheers
post #1360 of 2169
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Originally Posted by flobo View Post

When watching a movie/series you already know, you cna definitively notice the 4 % increase, specially in theme tunes.
You must have perfect pitch. Not many people do. (4% is two-thirds of a semitone)
post #1361 of 2169
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Originally Posted by pjd1972 View Post

Hi guys,I found this thread/forum after buying a Samsung EH5300 40 INCH led smart tv set, got it for the bedroom, the mRs is not to happy lol but there you go!
I have been reading a good few pages and cant find the best settings that you guys recommend, could someone post a link up just to see if it improves the picture quality please.
Also how do i know which panel I have and does it matter? if so why does it matter so much?
How do i get to the service menu to enable PVR and PIP?
Im well happy with the set, Ive a panasonic Plasma in the living room and thats great but this set is fantastic, I have removed my WD live streamer as I have both my hard drives plugged straight into the TV, plays MKV's without any problems, sound is not bad to considering its a Sammy:)
I have tried to share with my laptop without any success, although videos play fine via my Phone, I have the Samsung remote installed on my phone and thats great too!
sorry to ask so many questions, not that great with technology, this forum looks great btw.
Cheers

About calibration settings, pvr and service menu check the links on my signature.
post #1362 of 2169
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Edited by PobjoySpecial - 5/16/13 at 2:31pm
post #1363 of 2169
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Originally Posted by PobjoySpecial View Post

It's semantics, but telecine involves the conversion of film (24p) to video (60i). Straight 3:2 pulldown converts film (24p) to a progressive display (60p). Obviously this is slightly different for you 50Hz folks.

Take note that the 24p stutter isn't much better than the 60p judder. Pick your poison. Until the Hobbit came around, film has always had low temporal resolution.

I agree with this. Everyone complains about 120Hz being better than 60Hz blah blah. But go the movies and watch pure 24p and tell me how slow it is. When I first heard of LCD motion blur back in 2005 and then forced myself to see it (would have been better being ignorant) and then adapting to it, for a while seeing movies in the theater drove me nuts cause everything was blurry with only 24 frames. I think it all comes down to if it looks good to you don't worry about it. Cause when you get it in your head something is wrong you will find a way to see it some how. cool.gif
post #1364 of 2169
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Originally Posted by PobjoySpecial View Post

The EH5000 series are 60Hz, so they can only display 24fps content using 3:2 pulldown.

The biggest reason people buy the EH6000 is for the 120Hz panel and judder-free playback via 5:5 pulldown.

Can anyone else confirm if the EH6000 has an actual 120Hz panel.
post #1365 of 2169
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Originally Posted by Pandemonium08 View Post

Can anyone else confirm if the EH6000 has an actual 120Hz panel.

Yes, it has
post #1366 of 2169
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Edited by PobjoySpecial - 5/16/13 at 2:36pm
post #1367 of 2169
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Originally Posted by PobjoySpecial View Post

I'll also add that even 48fps isn't much better than 24fps.

Movies are largely about suspension of disbelief. Rationally, you know you are watching actors playing make-believe on a sound-stage, but when watching blurry 24fps video with less-than-stellar audio, all the imperfections of the production process get lost in the noise and you focus on the story.

Watch a 4K movie filmed at 48fps with the best stereo monitors around and something strange will happen. The movie you thought had amazing production values will start to feel amateurish. People move like they're in a soap opera. Camera angles and the depth of field of the image become noticeable. You can hear the imperfections of the dialogue delivery and even tell when the audio is being looped in post-production. The magic disappears as the facade of Hollywood gives way to the bullsh*t the industry is really selling.

Quality isn't always what it's cracked up to be... IMO. smile.gif

True story :-)
post #1368 of 2169
Hello.
I bought EH5000 and I have a question about connecting speakers to it. I have Logitech X-230 (2.1) and I connected them to TV (connected in that headphones jack) and sounds is really bad. When I go to sound settings in the menu almost every option is grey. So, what am I doing wrong here or this tv just doesnt support 2.1 system? It works perfect with headphones, tho.
post #1369 of 2169
I presume the Logitech set are powered speakers? The headphone output will be low power and high impedance.
post #1370 of 2169
Hey guys. I just got the UN32EH5300 for my bedroom. I set it up and changed the calibration to some settings I found on here. My wife was watching a HD channel the first day we had it and wherever there were bright white scenes they TV showed it as what I can only describe as lime green artifacting. I went in and turned off the Dynamic Contrast (I think that is what it was called) and it disappeared. I switched to Standard settings to mess with it later the stuff (green artifacting) still shows up occasionally. Is this a bad panel issue? Has any one experienced this and know of a fix?

Thanks in advance,
post #1371 of 2169
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

I added Input Lag Test Results to my above Calibration Post ^^^

Chicolom, did you use any calibration equipment for your settings or was this done by eye?
post #1372 of 2169
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Originally Posted by angler View Post

Hey guys. I just got the UN32EH5300 for my bedroom. I set it up and changed the calibration to some settings I found on here. My wife was watching a HD channel the first day we had it and wherever there were bright white scenes they TV showed it as what I can only describe as lime green artifacting. I went in and turned off the Dynamic Contrast (I think that is what it was called) and it disappeared. I switched to Standard settings to mess with it later the stuff (green artifacting) still shows up occasionally. Is this a bad panel issue? Has any one experienced this and know of a fix?

Thanks in advance,

Dynamic contrast is something that you should want to turn off anyway but that problem seems relative to your calibration settings being wrong. Try my calibrations settings, you can found its link on my signature and see how it works for you.

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Originally Posted by maraudershields View Post

Hello.
I bought EH5000 and I have a question about connecting speakers to it. I have Logitech X-230 (2.1) and I connected them to TV (connected in that headphones jack) and sounds is really bad. When I go to sound settings in the menu almost every option is grey. So, what am I doing wrong here or this tv just doesnt support 2.1 system? It works perfect with headphones, tho.

My speakers are connected to the headphone jack of my tv and I have no problems with it. I don't know if you already know this but your TV has a variable volume output for the headphone jack piput so you have to adjust to volume of your tv and speakers to be almost at the same level or else you'll get distortion.

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Originally Posted by Kimwyn View Post

Chicolom, did you use any calibration equipment for your settings or was this done by eye?

By my understanding of what he wrote in his post he calibrated his TV using the HD 709 REC AVSFORUM Calibration disc and a blue filter, so the rest was done by the eye. I calibrated mine using that and some extra test patterns on multiple devices except I didn't need a blue filter because the EH5300 already have a RGB filter option.
post #1373 of 2169
Thanks for your response. Now why i am asking is because i am the owner of a Kuro and i have accepted the fact that there isnt much panels that will look as great as the Kuro does but i bought a EH5300 for a bedroom TV. In the store, as expected, it looked quite decent, decent enough to buy but to tell you the truth, it is way WAY worse than the Kuro, so i was looking to try some settings to squeeze every ounce of ability out of this set.

As i said, i dont expect it to look like the Kuro but i still want it to be as decent as can be.
post #1374 of 2169
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Originally Posted by Kimwyn View Post

Thanks for your response. Now why i am asking is because i am the owner of a Kuro and i have accepted the fact that there isnt much panels that will look as great as the Kuro does but i bought a EH5300 for a bedroom TV. In the store, as expected, it looked quite decent, decent enough to buy but to tell you the truth, it is way WAY worse than the Kuro, so i was looking to try some settings to squeeze every ounce of ability out of this set.

As i said, i dont expect it to look like the Kuro but i still want it to be as decent as can be.

I assure you the eh5300 is a very decent tv specially for its price but you can't expect plasma like blacks on any led tv and worse is you are comparing one of the best plasmas in years to a budget lcd led tv frown.gif
post #1375 of 2169
Some people are so picky. I've never adjusted mine away from the standard settings, and honestly it's GOOD ENOUGH FOR TELLY!
post #1376 of 2169
^^^ ignorance is bliss.......

i have used the settings provided and the TV is much better. Thanks for those.
post #1377 of 2169
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Originally Posted by crashbot View Post

Some people are so picky. I've never adjusted mine away from the standard settings, and honestly it's GOOD ENOUGH FOR TELLY!

What??? You surely don't know what you're talking about, I'll show you in pictures rather than text:

This is how your TV is performing:



This is how it will perform once calibrated::



That's a huge difference in picture quality and even worse is those settings like dynamic contrast, black tone, etc (which I bet you have them on too), all of those alter the original picture and makes it lost a lot of details.

So don't call other people picky for wanting to have a good picture on their tvs. Standard settings are awful on almost all lcd tvs, AWFUL!
But if you still want to have a bad picture with stupid colors which looks like you're watching your tv with blue lens glasses and lose a LOT of details too, be my guest, that's your tv and if you like it the way it is I'm not here to judge you, what's important is you're happy with it.

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Originally Posted by Kimwyn View Post

^^^ ignorance is bliss.......

i have used the settings provided and the TV is much better. Thanks for those.

I surely agree with you :P
post #1378 of 2169
The difference is that I don't spend my time in front of the TV watching Blu-rays, or even HiDef broadcast. I judge a picture by the continuity of tone from black to white, and natural skin tones, and honestly it's good enough for general telly. Of course, I am (when I do) viewing a 32" screen from ten or twelve feet - if you are a videophile and like to sit close enough to see individual pixels, your requirements are probably different.

I might one day see what "calibration" does, but I lost interest when I discovered I can't tell what panel I have. The problem is that such judgement is highly subjective, and unless one could alternate between "before" and "after" it might be difficult to know what the difference really is - psychologically one will be expecting to see an improvement, and therefore convince oneself one does.

Call me undemanding if you like, but I would not accept colour casts or unreal contrasts. Bear in mind also I am in the UK, which might make a difference.
post #1379 of 2169
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Originally Posted by crashbot View Post

The difference is that I don't spend my time in front of the TV watching Blu-rays, or even HiDef broadcast. I judge a picture by the continuity of tone from black to white, and natural skin tones, and honestly it's good enough for general telly. Of course, I am (when I do) viewing a 32" screen from ten or twelve feet - if you are a videophile and like to sit close enough to see individual pixels, your requirements are probably different.

I might one day see what "calibration" does, but I lost interest when I discovered I can't tell what panel I have. The problem is that such judgement is highly subjective, and unless one could alternate between "before" and "after" it might be difficult to know what the difference really is - psychologically one will be expecting to see an improvement, and therefore convince oneself one does.

Call me undemanding if you like, but I would not accept colour casts or unreal contrasts. Bear in mind also I am in the UK, which might make a difference.

Try my calibration settings and you'll see a huge difference
post #1380 of 2169
Hi,

i have here an Samsung UE40EH5000 with an 002 Sharp Panel.

I use the settings from chicolom which are ment as far as i know for samsung panels. I'm clearly not an expert in this field, but picture seems a bit "cold" to me so not enough colous.
And sometimes i have the impression that i have clouding. And black does not really seems to be black so it is not darc enough.

Any suggestions for better settings? Or is it just a bad panel?
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