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post #151 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Pandemonium08 View Post

I dont have any major issues with the motion handling on my panel, Im starting to think there is a panel lottery involved. But if you view a 24fps source on a 60Hz LEDTV with out any motion processing even the most highend TV's will make it look crappy, Im watching this documentary and I had to use a 60fps player to get better motion.
See post 143. Yep, there's a panel lottery going on. My version is CH01 which has a Chimei Innolux S-MVA panel.
Edited by 12none - 7/2/12 at 9:58am
post #152 of 2167
12 none - I am not sure what panel mine has how do I find out?

I see version number and next to that it says version number : 01 ad that's it no letters or nothing just 01?????
post #153 of 2167
The best way to know what type of panel you have is to get a magnified look at the pixels. I've included a link to a forum with great pictures of the different types of LCD matrices. http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1113353-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed.html

My panel looks the same as the one in the following link close up. http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/249817d1309367878-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed-samsung-le40d6100_4_s.jpg

The box label and the label on the back of the tv should both have the version number on it, sounds like part of yours is missing Richdot.
post #154 of 2167
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

The best way to know what type of panel you have is to get a magnified look at the pixels. I've included a link to a forum with great pictures of the different types of LCD matrices. http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1113353-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed.html
My panel looks the same as the one in the following link close up. http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/249817d1309367878-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed-samsung-le40d6100_4_s.jpg
The box label and the label on the back of the tv should both have the version number on it, sounds like part of yours is missing Richdot.

Ok dude, I have taken a picture of the box and the tv.

700
450

Any ideas?
post #155 of 2167
Seeing that your set is made in Slovakia and uses 220v, I have no idea. I'm in North America, and I'm guessing you are not. Next best bet is a 20x magnifier to look at the pixels.
post #156 of 2167
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

Seeing that your set is made in Slovakia and uses 220v, I have no idea. I'm in North America, and I'm guessing you are not. Next best bet is a 20x magnifier to look at the pixels.

I have no idea man, I don't have a 20x magnifier or I would look smile.gif

I have another problem. When I looked down the tv from the top up close I can see lines going down and when I look at the tv close to the side I can also see lines going down. ( this is on a blank source input screen ) The backlight is even is it just the LED design or something :S ?
post #157 of 2167
I've heard rumors that the 32EH5xxx series uses S-PVA panels while the 40EH5xxx series and larger uses a far more superior A-MVA panels, can anyone confirm this?
post #158 of 2167
I recently bought a 32" eh5300 as an upgrade from LG 32"LV4300 and I observed that when I connect my external 500gb HDD, it takes some time to read it and then the UI or menu becomes slow when browsing the contents of the HDD. but when I start to play movies it plays well and no signs of slowing down. (Im not reffering to motion lag or response time lag, just system lag.) Anyone experiencing the same like mine?
post #159 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Pandemonium08 View Post

I've heard rumors that the 32EH5xxx series uses S-PVA panels while the 40EH5xxx series and larger uses a far more superior A-MVA panels, can anyone confirm this?
IMO S-PVA is superior to any MVA panel with IPS being the best pick of all LCD panels. My UN50EH5300 is version CH01 and is built with a S-MVA panel. From what I can see the S-MVA seems to perform better than the A-MVA that was in the 46D6000 I tried out.
post #160 of 2167
I just got my replacement set on the 32EH5000, the version at the back says TH02, it also has a clearly superior viewing angle no more motion issues that my older version had (AD02, iirc ) I also have access to the service menu... How can I verify the panel type ?
post #161 of 2167
I just want to confirm that the Samsung EH5000 model passes the quick & dirty 4:4:4 / Chroma Subsampling test . It will only take you a few secs to run it. Please confirm, TIA.

Quick-and-Dirty Method (a.k.a., Red-Magenta Method): Open the image found LINK BELOW. Make sure you’re at 100% zoom, and pay special attention to the Red and Magenta columns. On a 4:4:4 TV, the “Red” and “Magenta” text will be nice and sharp just like the text in the other columns. On a non-4:4:4 TV, the “Red” and “Magenta” text will be noticeably fuzzy, but the text in the other columns will be nice and sharp.

test link:
http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352/floatpoo/444_faq/tint-blue-rgb-1080p.png
post #162 of 2167
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Originally Posted by stenna View Post

I just want to confirm that the Samsung EH5000 model passes the quick & dirty 4:4:4 / Chroma Subsampling test . It will only take you a few secs to run it. Please confirm, TIA.
Quick-and-Dirty Method (a.k.a., Red-Magenta Method): Open the image found LINK BELOW. Make sure you’re at 100% zoom, and pay special attention to the Red and Magenta columns. On a 4:4:4 TV, the “Red” and “Magenta” text will be nice and sharp just like the text in the other columns. On a non-4:4:4 TV, the “Red” and “Magenta” text will be noticeably fuzzy, but the text in the other columns will be nice and sharp.
test link:
http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352/floatpoo/444_faq/tint-blue-rgb-1080p.png

It passes all the tests, get the TH02 panel.
post #163 of 2167
Im confused my panel is TS01 what does this mean exactly in reference to the actual panel quality?
Edited by Techtonic - 7/11/12 at 2:14pm
post #164 of 2167
Do I even need this for PS3 gaming? Pretty much all games are 720p, and I just feel like if I squashed the image down to a 26" the games would just appear sharper and pop more even on a 720p LED. Any thoughts on this?
post #165 of 2167
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Originally Posted by stenna View Post

I just want to confirm that the Samsung EH5000 model passes the quick & dirty 4:4:4 / Chroma Subsampling test . It will only take you a few secs to run it. Please confirm, TIA.
Quick-and-Dirty Method (a.k.a., Red-Magenta Method): Open the image found LINK BELOW. Make sure you’re at 100% zoom, and pay special attention to the Red and Magenta columns. On a 4:4:4 TV, the “Red” and “Magenta” text will be nice and sharp just like the text in the other columns. On a non-4:4:4 TV, the “Red” and “Magenta” text will be noticeably fuzzy, but the text in the other columns will be nice and sharp.
test link:
http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352/floatpoo/444_faq/tint-blue-rgb-1080p.png

I tried it and the red was pretty sharp, but the green was just a tad fuzzy and I guess the Magenta is a bit fuzzy. I have TS01. I think I'm gonna bring this back since even though it's pretty good something is just a teeny tiny bit off about it.
post #166 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Elrowyn View Post

I tried it and the red was pretty sharp, but the green was just a tad fuzzy and I guess the Magenta is a bit fuzzy. I have TS01. I think I'm gonna bring this back since even though it's pretty good something is just a teeny tiny bit off about it.

Just to verify, you did set the HDMI1 port to either "PC" or "DVI-PC" and not "DVI"
Edited by Pandemonium08 - 7/11/12 at 6:12pm
post #167 of 2167
I'm sorry I didn't check and it's too late otherwise I would recheck for ya. I returned it because I decided I wanted to go with a 26" 720p because most PS3 games only use 720p anyway and the smaller the screen the better the image in my opinion. But all of the 26eh4000's in stock at the the store showed version cs01 on the box and I vaguely remember from earlier in this thread cs01 is on the loosers end of the panel lottery. So I picked their last 26D4003 from last year hopefully I will be satisfied with it.

Good luck with your panel research here and I'll be back if I decided to track down a 26eh4000 with a good panel. I'll probably still stick around until you guys find out more.
post #168 of 2167
So if I get a 26eh4000 and view that image on it and if red and megenta are nice and clear I win the panel lottery? I think I'm gonna bring this old model back because I found out the contrast ratio was really low. I'll take my chance with the cs01 model as I've reread the thread and there has been no confirmation on that particular panel yet.
post #169 of 2167
For anyone interested, I can confirm. For 720p sources like most PS3 games. The 32EH5000 looks much better than the 26EH4000. The 26 just doesn't have that same "pop" the 32 does. Even if it's a 720 source I guess the pixel density does make enough of a difference that's quite a bit noticeable to me. The 26EH4000 doesn't look really any better than the 3 year old model Samsung 26" LCD I have. Not worth the upgrade whereas the 32EH5000 definitely feels like a worthy upgrade.
post #170 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Pandemonium08 View Post

I just got my replacement set on the 32EH5000, the version at the back says TH02, it also has a clearly superior viewing angle no more motion issues that my older version had (AD02, iirc ) I also have access to the service menu... How can I verify the panel type ?
In the service menu there should be a place labeled "Type:" this is the panel identification. For example, my set shows "Type: 50P6AF0D" with the P indicating it has a ChiMei panel. If you wouldn't mind sharing, what is the listed panel type for your tv with version TH02?

Samsung 2012 (Taken from AVForums)

E-CCFL
EH-Direct LED
ES-Edge LED

In service menu
Vendor:
A:Samsung
H:Sharp
P:CMI
R:AUO
Edited by 12none - 7/12/12 at 4:49pm
post #171 of 2167
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

In the service menu there should be a place labeled "Type:" this is the panel identification. For example, my set shows "Type: 50P6AF0D" with the P indicating it has a ChiMei panel. If you wouldn't mind sharing, what is the listed panel type for your tv with version TH02?
Samsung 2012 (Taken from AVForums)
E-CCFL
EH-Direct LED
ES-Edge LED
In service menu
Vendor:
A:Samsung
H:Sharp
P:CMI
R:AUO

Mine says Type 32A6AFOD and comes with a FW version of 1102.3
post #172 of 2167
I would say that is good news and it also helps anyone who is specifically looking for a Samsung panel to look for version TH02.
post #173 of 2167
HI - i just ordered the EH5000 40 inch - i hope its as good as i been reading on here and other reviews - i am trading my Panasonic ET5 for this samsung - i hope i made the right choice

its a bedroom TV - the only thing i am not too happy with the ET5 is the weak black levels - low contrast etc, - other than that - its an excellent TV for picture -

i hope this Samsung does not disappoint me and comes at least close to the ET5 with picture and hope to see better blacks - more even screen - no light bleeding or bright areas compared to my ET5 etc

i hope to get it tomorrow -

any one have good calibrated settings i can try ?

thanks
post #174 of 2167
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

HI - i just ordered the EH5000 40 inch - i hope its as good as i been reading on here and other reviews - i am trading my Panasonic ET5 for this samsung - i hope i made the right choice
its a bedroom TV - the only thing i am not too happy with the ET5 is the weak black levels - low contrast etc, - other than that - its an excellent TV for picture -
i hope this Samsung does not disappoint me and comes at least close to the ET5 with picture and hope to see better blacks - more even screen - no light bleeding or bright areas compared to my ET5 etc
i hope to get it tomorrow -
any one have good calibrated settings i can try ?
thanks

The black levels and contrast on the EH5000 is very great, you will not be disappointed. There is also no backlight bleeding what so ever.
post #175 of 2167
i hope so - - i really enjoy the picture on the ET5 - if it wasnt for the black levels - i would have kept it - i am hoping to set this TV up tomorrow and use it over the weekend - if all good - i will start the return process on monday with amazon for the ET5

i got used to a plasma and cant beat it for movies at night - but i needed a day time TV for bedroom - i got spoiled with the plasma - all i hope is at least the PQ is as good as the ET5 - with deeper blacks - even screen - - no bleeding etc,


i can deal with out the internet - or 3D - hook up a roku - blu ray and thats all need - if anything i can add a HDMI splitter etc, to add more connections - but never used more than 2 before so i should be fine -


any tips i should be looking out for ?
post #176 of 2167
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

I would say that is good news and it also helps anyone who is specifically looking for a Samsung panel to look for version TH02.

I had a TH02 EH5300 and the motion blurring so so bad I had to return the TV. Regardless of who made the panel, it was difficult to use with anything scrolling or moving quickly frown.gif
post #177 of 2167
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Originally Posted by ocellaris View Post

I had a TH02 EH5300 and the motion blurring so so bad I had to return the TV. Regardless of who made the panel, it was difficult to use with anything scrolling or moving quickly frown.gif

I no longer have any motion related issues on my TH02 no matter how hard try to look for as compared to the previous AD01 panel I had.
post #178 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Pandemonium08 View Post

It passes all the tests, get the TH02 panel.

I have the 40eh5300 so how do I run this test? Do I need to do this? Do I need to get into the service manual and how do I do it, is it safe? Also do I need to switch my hdmi 1 and name it pc? Sorry for all these questions. Also even though I have liked the tv and do not even have hd cable just regular sd cable. I still can get one or two digital cable channels.
post #179 of 2167
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Originally Posted by atom5 View Post

I have the 40eh5300 so how do I run this test? Do I need to do this? Do I need to get into the service manual and how do I do it, is it safe? Also do I need to switch my hdmi 1 and name it pc? Sorry for all these questions. Also even though I have liked the tv and do not even have hd cable just regular sd cable. I still can get one or two digital cable channels.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1381724/official-4-4-4-chroma-subsampling-thread
post #180 of 2167
that sucks - sorry to hear - my 5000 just arrived - hope to have it running over the weekend -

crossing my fingers
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