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post #601 of 2167
FYI, any EH4xxx sets are 720p, not 1080p. Just to make sure people know....
post #602 of 2167
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

FYI, any EH4xxx sets are 720p, not 1080p. Just to make sure people know....

If all I'm ever going to do is watch HD cable programming and not watch any blu-rays would the 720p eh400x be a good choice?

If anyone has an eh400x I'd love to know what you think of it. Beside the picture quality, I would also like to know how big of a deal it is that the eh4003 has only 5w speakers vs the eh5000's 10w speakers.
post #603 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Kelud View Post

If all I'm ever going to do is watch HD cable programming and not watch any blu-rays would the 720p eh400x be a good choice?


720p would probably be OK if your ONLY using it for cable, but I would personally go with 1080p just to have a more future proof set. The price different isn't that big is it? 1080p will be worth more if you ever sell it later, and you can use it as a PC monitor or something in the future. Just my 2 cents....
post #604 of 2167
Yes chicolom.

I am not near TV set,as I am in India and TV is in UK, My friend send the picture to me 2 days ago, and he didn't know how to check service menu.

But I request him to go again in the store( and tell him to how to enter service menu). and check again.

I hope he will able to find panel.

BUT if any one of you have idea, then please share, so I can decide to purchase TV from UK. As If the panel is not OF SAMSUNG, them it's really really pain full to Send it back to UK from India.

Thnx
post #605 of 2167
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Originally Posted by vdtrivedi View Post

Yes chicolom.
I am not near TV set,as I am in India and TV is in UK, My friend send the picture to me 2 days ago, and he didn't know how to check service menu.
But I request him to go again in the store( and tell him to how to enter service menu). and check again.
I hope he will able to find panel.
BUT if any one of you have idea, then please share, so I can decide to purchase TV from UK. As If the panel is not OF SAMSUNG, them it's really really pain full to Send it back to UK from India.
Thnx

I understand. I'm not very familiar with how the versions correlate with the panels outside the US. It seems like I've only seen a version 01 and version 02 posted. Having him go to a store and check the service menu on different sets is probably the best way to figure it out though.
post #606 of 2167
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Originally Posted by vdtrivedi View Post

BUT if any one of you have idea, then please share, so I can decide to purchase TV from UK. As If the panel is not OF SAMSUNG, them it's really really pain full to Send it back to UK from India.
Thnx

I had your same concerns, but unfortunately for the European models, there is no way to understand what type of panel is mounted without going into the menu.
On the housing of my UE32eh5000 there is no reference of panel type as on U.S. models, and the "version number 01 or 02" is not connected to it.
My bro have version 01 Samsung panel, and me version 02 samsung panel.. so..

You have to be lucky ... try to search my previous post in this thread..

sooooooorry for my bad english...
post #607 of 2167
Thnx a lot guys.

I have told my friend to visit the store again and check in service menu.

Hope for the best.
post #608 of 2167
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

720p would probably be OK if your ONLY using it for cable, but I would personally go with 1080p just to have a more future proof set. The price different isn't that big is it? 1080p will be worth more if you ever sell it later, and you can use it as a PC monitor or something in the future. Just my 2 cents....

- I will never use this for a pc monitor
- I've never sold a tv before. I pretty much just use them until they crap out. I'm only looking at new tvs now because most of my old crts are dying.
- Pricewise, there is quite a large difference. The lowest price I've seen for the 32eh5000 is $330 + tax. I can get the 32eh4003 from Target for $203 + tax.

One of the things I'm most concerned with is motion-blur. Ironically, reading through these forum threads has me more sensitive to motion-blur than I ever was before. It never bothered me much on the 3-1/2-year-old Sony 26m4000 in my kitchen, but I notice it more now. I definitely notice blur on the 46eh6000 we just got my Dad. I've also been considering the 26eh4000 simply because I'm used to watching smaller tvs and a smaller lcd would reduce the impact of motion blur. My viewing distance would be 5-7.5 ft. In the kitchen I watch the 26" lcd from 4.5-6 ft when sitting down at the table, but I'm also used to watching it a fair amount when standing/walking by 7+ ft from the tv. There's plenty of motion talk in here regarding the eh5xxx(seems to be pretty inconsistent from one tv to the next even among the same panels), but there has been so little talk of the eh4xxx in this thread I don't know what kind of motion performance people have been getting with their tvs.
post #609 of 2167
Hi,

I beg users of 40EH5300. Can you check if it offers chroma subsampling 4:4:4?

Thank You in advance!
post #610 of 2167
Well the panel is a lottery in Australia, was interested in the 32eh5000, none of the boxes have the version number on the outside. Store model was CH, didn't feel like playing the lottery. Probably pick up an IPS panel instead.
post #611 of 2167
This may sound stupid but what if the source is analogue cable. I believe newer Samsung TVs doesn't have NTSC tuner. Is there a way to make it work? biggrin.gif
post #612 of 2167
Hi,

I recently bought a samsung UN46EH5000 but i can't seem to find any calibration setting online for it, i was wondering if anyone has one?
post #613 of 2167
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

1) I'm not aware of that letter, but I doubt it's significant. Firmware can be downloaded from Samsungs website. They have 1012.3 listed as the latest, although some sets might come with even newer firmware already installed (?).
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN40EH5000FXZA

That letter after the model number is relevant due to the TV tuner embedded, which varies by country/region.

For example, mine is a UN40EH5300G, where G means it is for Brazilian market and comes with ISDB-Tb digital tuner and PAL-M/NTSC/PAL-N analog tuner.

Therefore, in no situation you should apply a firmware update that was not released for your specific regional model.
post #614 of 2167
46EH5300 arrived from Amazon this morning. TH02 on the side of the box and service menu reports Samsung.
post #615 of 2167
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

UN40EH5000 Calibration Settings
(I'll update this post whenever I update my settings)
On HDMI
Either,
I have three different calibration settings for the three modes I use: "Standard", "Movie" and "PC mode" (which is what I call renaming the input to "PC" - eliminates subsampling and enables 4:4:4 capability).
All three modes have been calibrated to look the same.
* indicates where the settings diverge some in order to accommodate for differences in processing for each mode.
Pictures Settings
  • Backlight: 20 on all
  • Contrast: 96 on all
  • Brightness: 45 on all
  • * Sharpness: 50 on "PC mode", 0-10 on "Movie/Standard" (your personal preference on those modes. I use 3)
  • * Color: 50 on "PC mode (can't change it)", 49 on "Movie", and 38 on "Standard" mode
  • Tint: G46/R54 on all (not adjustable in "PC" mode)
Advanced Settings:
  • Color Space: Auto on all ("native" does horrible things to the greens)
  • * White Balance: R-Gain: 5, G-Gain: 25, B-Gain: 0 on "Standard" Mode, "PC" Mode & "Movie" Mode both use R-Gain: 17, G-Gain: 37, B-Gain: 12
  • Gamma: 0 on all
  • Dynamic Contrast: Off on all
  • Black Tone: Off on all
  • Flesh Tone: 0 on all
  • Motion Lighting: Off on all, BUT the effect of this setting (dynamic backlight adjustment based on the percentage of black on screen) is always present on "Standard" mode anyways (also "Game Mode"), and I see no way to disable it. Movie and PC don't have it ON nor do they give the option for it.

Picture Options:
  • Color Tone: Warm 1 on all.
  • * Size: 16:9 on "PC mode", Screen Fit on all other modes
  • Digital Noise Filter: Off
  • HDMI Black Level: If your source is outputting YCbCr, it will be outputting video levels(16-235), and HDMI Black Level will be greyed out - you don't have to worry about it. If your source is outputting RGB (some game consoles) Normal will then be for 0-255, and Low will be for 16-235. it should be obvious if you have it set incorrectly (it will either be washed out, or crushing blacks and whites).
  • LED Motion Plus: Off

Keep in mind these settings are for a Samsung S-PVA panel.

______________________________

Hi there!
I am a new member here, i just have bought the Samsung EH5000 (46'version). I was following some pretty cool settings (url at the end of the message) until i found yours; they seems great, image is crazy, although i still have 2 questions:
- are these settings perfect for gaming? I bought this tv for gaming purpose only (PS3/WiiU), and i wanted to know if it was ok.
- you gave the settings on white balance Rgain, GGain and Bgain, but no indication for R-Offset , G-Offset , B-Offset (the line above). Are they the same numbers (i took "movie" mode by the way)?
I am sorry to be such a newbie but i want to make it right, and i'm kinda lost in all of this. So i guess you're the only one to rescue me.
Cheers!

http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1635983-samsung-ue40eh5000-owners-thread-6.html
post #616 of 2167
Enter service menu will void the warranty?
post #617 of 2167
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

1) I'm not aware of that letter, but I doubt it's significant. Firmware can be downloaded from Samsungs website. They have 1012.3 listed as the latest, although some sets might come with even newer firmware already installed (?).
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN40EH5000FXZA
2) I"m not sure what your asking, but the TV has an optical passthrough that passes dobly digital or PCM (I think). Most people probably use the receiver as the first device and passthrough the video via HDMI to the TV.
3) I don't think you can.

Dang...so I just got my UN40EH5000F from Best Buy and went to Samsung's website and updated to their latest software (1012.3) and mine was at 1017.

Did I just downgrade my firmware? And if so can I reset everything to the original settings to have the newer (1017) back?

And I can only choose Dynamic, Standard, or Movie...but Sharpness on 3 looks awful. It starts off at 50 so going down to 3 seems terrible for the sharpness.

I'm definitely a n00b so any words of advice would definitely help.
post #618 of 2167
Well I just bought a 32 inch Samsung 5000 from Crutchfield for 329.99 with free shipping after the 327.99 deal became unavailable on amazon....I hope I like it....I am liking what I am seeing in reviews on this TV.
post #619 of 2167
My mother in-law has the UN40EH5000F. Those with this TV, can you connect a Western Digital My Book drive to the USB port and successfully access it?

Thanks
post #620 of 2167
I read as much as I could in this thread and have a few questions.
I have a 46 EH5300 TH02 sitting in box unopened.

Looking at that, it appears it is a samsung panel?
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

TS0x and TH0x have both been tested via the service menu and indicate Samsung panels.

So it should have good picture quality, little bleed and such..

But my main concern is the 120 CMR. I have read true 120hz is what you want (divisible by 24 and 30).
Since 120cmr is really 60hz I have two questions about performance more than picture:

I am used to watching dvds on an old 27" tube tv and on my computer with a samsung 244t 24" panel (pretty sure 60hz)
They don't look much different.. I believe both are showing 24fps, will the 5300 look similar with the "extra frame interpretation" turned off?

I play a lot of games like csgo, darksiders, skyrim, dota2, madden (hate ea for killing pc side).
I don't notice much ghosting at all on my computer screen, the 244t is a few years old (paid 700ish for it.. 6ms response).. and wonder how the 5300 would fair?
It would hook up with HDMI (have dual 580gtx in the pc, so mini hdmi or dvi..)
Will there be problematic bluring?


So newegg now has 40" EH6000f http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889102669 for 547. Paid $50 more for the 46" 5300. 40 or 46 is fine to me..

Is the 6000 going to do better for dvd/blueray/computer than the 5300?
I won't be using netflix/etc.. we have a wii for that.

(I just realized I paid more for the 24" 244t than this EH5300 46")

Thanks for the help!
post #621 of 2167
Hi. Bought one in the UK today. As posted elsewhere there is less "Panel Lottery" help from the box and TV stickers here. That said...

Checked the Service Menu "Type" code on the display model in Currys (TV sticker - "Version: 01") and it was "40A......" - i.e. a Samsung panel.

Swallowed hard and bought one and it turned out to be "Version: 02" with a Service Menu "Type" code of "40H....." - i.e. a Sharp panel. Oh well....

Thankfully it seems o.k. and the missus is happy enough.

I've no idea if the above holds true of all "Version: 01" and "Version: 02" models but it doesn't help that you can't tell from the box anyway!

Whilst there were a number of boxed units on the shop floor ours was brought from the stock room and was tagged "Delivery Date 22/11/2012".
If there is any direct correlation between versions and panels it may be an idea to ask for the oldest stock item they have!
post #622 of 2167
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Originally Posted by johndoejohndoes View Post

Dang...so I just got my UN40EH5000F from Best Buy and went to Samsung's website and updated to their latest software (1012.3) and mine was at 1017.
Did I just downgrade my firmware? And if so can I reset everything to the original settings to have the newer (1017) back?
And I can only choose Dynamic, Standard, or Movie...but Sharpness on 3 looks awful. It starts off at 50 so going down to 3 seems terrible for the sharpness.
I'm definitely a n00b so any words of advice would definitely help.

I highly doubt you can reverse flashing the firmware.

Like I said, sharpness is sort of personal preference. The default sharpness is very high. With a good 1080p source (like a PC or blu ray signal) you shouldn't technically need much if any sharpening. It's just an "enhancement" that creates halos around edges well before you get to 50. But turning it up is less troublesome than turning on "enhancements" like dynamic contrast so don't feel bad about turning it up if you like it.
post #623 of 2167
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

I highly doubt you can reverse flashing the firmware.
Like I said, sharpness is sort of personal preference. The default sharpness is very high. With a good 1080p source (like a PC or blu ray signal) you shouldn't technically need much if any sharpening. It's just an "enhancement" that creates halos around edges well before you get to 50. But turning it up is less troublesome than turning on "enhancements" like dynamic contrast so don't feel bad about turning it up if you like it.

So your calibration is the best for someone like myself who plays PS3/Blu-Rays 1080p and has Verizon FiOS with 1080i?

How exactly did you get your calibration? The only other one I could find is this one right here.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R4MKQH5MRSOX5/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00723QKVQ&nodeID=172282&store=electronics
post #624 of 2167
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Originally Posted by nickdc View Post

Enter service menu will void the warranty?
Nobody knows?

ps, where is game mode setting? can't find it...
Edited by nickdc - 11/25/12 at 6:07am
post #625 of 2167
I bought an UN40EH5000 in the last week and I am very impressed with the image quality. I noticed the darkening immediately when using the 'LED motion'
function but saw no actual benefit in terms of images. Ran a Blue Ray movie with this 'feature' on and then off multiple times and to my eyes I saw a darker image with LED motion on. Nothing else. Overall I am not unhappy with the motion handling of the EH5000 in normal mode. I really don't care to have a piece of software emulating what a programmer thinks should be an acceptable view anyhow. Think I'll just enjoy the picture and will leave the toys and tricks alone.

I kept an still use an LG 37LD450 LCD with IPS panel TV. Also rated at 60hz and really I never had any issues with motion on that TV either.
post #626 of 2167
I have to admit -- within the last few days, I have learned ALOT on the panel versions. Wow. I was about to pull the trigger on the UN40EH5000 on Amazon.com 2 days ago but someone suggested I google "panel lottery". I'm so glad I did for I don't want to take a chance getting a crappy panel on my TV from Amazon.

So today, after the football games, I plan to hit a few Walmarts in Denver to see if they have this TV with version TS02. I appreciate everyone's pictures on how to determine the version on the box for that's what I will tell the sales guy to check. I hate to spend the extra $25+ in taxes instead of online shopping but it will be worth it.

I want to buy this TV for my bedroom. To watch TV and movies. No gaming or PC use.

Should be interesting........
post #627 of 2167
yeah, I'm sure. All I have is a macbook with a mini dvi out.
post #628 of 2167
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Originally Posted by Schwacker View Post

I have to admit -- within the last few days, I have learned ALOT on the panel versions. Wow. I was about to pull the trigger on the UN40EH5000 on Amazon.com 2 days ago but someone suggested I google "panel lottery". I'm so glad I did for I don't want to take a chance getting a crappy panel on my TV from Amazon.
So today, after the football games, I plan to hit a few Walmarts in Denver to see if they have this TV with version TS02. I appreciate everyone's pictures on how to determine the version on the box for that's what I will tell the sales guy to check. I hate to spend the extra $25+ in taxes instead of online shopping but it will be worth it.
I want to buy this TV for my bedroom. To watch TV and movies. No gaming or PC use.
Should be interesting........

Just got a TS02...bought and HS03 or something and exchanged it at Target.
post #629 of 2167
Just wanted to thank Chicolom and many posters in this very informative thread. Didn't realize that a 1st tier tv manufacturer like Samsung was playing the panel lottery that so many laptop manufacturers do also. Thanks to this thread I returned an unopened 40 Eh5000 with a CH02 panel code for the last TS02.

Out of th box I was kinda disappointed in the pinkish hue of letters when used as a monitor. Using Chicolom's settings made it true gray and the colors so much more lifelike. Still prefer my panny 65 inch for movies, but for a general purpose and gaming set this TV blows away the no-name cheap BF TV's!
post #630 of 2167
Well just a quick follow up. I think I'm officially disgusted with Walmart and Samsung! I went to 5 friggin' Walmarts today. 3 of them didn't even have the eh5000 while 2 of them had them on display with the incorrect price! The 1st store that had it on display were sold out but called another store and promised to hold one for me. Of course when I went to other store, they claimed to have never received a hold call and they have been sold out for a while. So 4 hours in Denver, driving around looking to buy a eH5000 before the low price expires tomorrow. Geesh.

The only silver lining is that that 2 stores that did have them on display, those displays were TS02 versions.

I think I need a drink.

I may switch to another 40" Tv.
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