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Poll Results: What format would you prefer for the HTPC?

 
  • 33% (19)
    .mp4
  • 66% (38)
    .mkv
  • 0% (0)
    others (please detail in thread)
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post #331 of 631
Thanks for the assistance alluringreality. I will try the steps that you suggested and I believe sooner or later the download will work.

Vincentfam
post #332 of 631
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Originally Posted by visca blaugrana View Post

As I think most calibrations disk available today lack in-debt calibrations patterns for Gamut calibration, I decided to create one my self, the goal with this is not to create a disk for full calibration, as there is plenty of disks available for this, its only for gamut calibration.

b4.3.9 the latest beta version of the disk in AVCHD (This need burning to a DVD) format is avchd (If you have problems with this version try the b4.3.7 Strict AVCHD)

the latest test version with pop-up menus in Blu-Ray (This need burning to a BD) format is here b4.3.7 if you use this let me know and I will upload b4.3.8 in blu ray format

the latest test version with pop-up menus in AVCHD Strict (This need burning to a DVD) format is here b4.3.7 if this is required let me know and i will upload latest version
Just a quick guide to what format to chose:
Use the Blu-Ray version if you wish to burn to a Blu-Ray disk (BD25 or DB50) - use this format if your blu-ray player dont support 1080p/24fps via AVCHD (reports suggest that panasonic players dont)

Use the AVCHD in 9/10 instances
Use AVCHD Strict if you have problems using the normal AVCHD disk (if you have problems with the normal version please let me know)

fix list:
fixed so default button on grayscale for 10%APL
Fixed popup for 10%APL Gamma POPup
Added Fields
fixed menu problem with navigation of field patterns
known bugs:
this release include (All 10% windows & 1% Windows APL & 10% windows with fixed 22%APL & Fields)

100% luminance - Saturation Sweep
75% luminance - Saturation Sweep\t\t\t\t
50% luminance - Saturation Sweep\t\t\t\t
25% luminance - Saturation Sweep\t\t\t\t
\t\t\t\t
100% Saturation - luminance Sweep\t\t\t\t
75% Saturation - luminance Sweep\t\t\t\t
50% Saturation - luminance Sweep\t\t\t\t
25% Saturation - luminance Sweep

100% luminance - 100% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t
100% luminance - 75% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t
100% luminance - 50% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t

75% luminance - 100% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t
75% luminance - 75% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t
75% luminance - 50% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t

50% luminance - 100% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t
50% luminance - 75% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep\t
50% luminance - 50% Saturation: Primaries/Secondaries Sweep

Grey Scale Patterns 5 & 10% steps
Clip Pattern
Color Test Patterns
Reference pictures

Future Plans:

MP4 version
Popup menus for remaining sections



Others??

attached is the xyY targets for all patterns. Big thanks to Zoyd for his big work in creating this disk.
GCD_targets v11.xlsx 176k .xlsx file
Thanks to Tom Huffman and alluringreality & dr1394 for helping with utility's to make this possible

regarding the excel file attached in the first post, can it work with BT.1886 gamma?
post #333 of 631
Yes.
post #334 of 631
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Yes.

how do I do that?
post #335 of 631
The 2nd sheet computes / graphs the gamma targets for bt1886. On the first sheet, using "measured gamma" will calculate the saturation and color checker targets accordingly.
post #336 of 631
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

The 2nd sheet computes / graphs the gamma targets for bt1886. On the first sheet, using "measured gamma" will calculate the saturation and color checker targets accordingly.

oh, I though the second sheet was just another BT.1886 gamma calculator, not part of sheet one
post #337 of 631
I just burned the latest version of this disc (b4.3.9 on a DVD-R played back on a slim PS3) and it works great for the most part. There are no pop-up menus and the basic patterns auto advance after the first one in the series. Also, the labels on the grayscale patterns disappear at 50% white, since the label is matching the background exactly.
post #338 of 631
for pop-ups on the ps3 use the "square" button
post #339 of 631
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

for pop-ups on the ps3 use the "square" button

why, does the pop-up button on the PS3 bluetooth remote not work?

http://us.playstation.com/ps3/accessories/sony-blu-ray-disc-remote-control-ps3.html
post #340 of 631
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

oh, I though the second sheet was just another BT.1886 gamma calculator, not part of sheet one

It's pretty sophisticated - a VERY handy tool to have in the toolbox.
post #341 of 631
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

It's pretty sophisticated - a VERY handy tool to have in the toolbox.

which data entries in sheet two are used in sheet one? just the white and black levels?
post #342 of 631
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

which data entries in sheet two are used in sheet one? just the white and black levels?

no, each xyY target is calculated using a gamma value interpolated from your measured curve.
post #343 of 631
Thread Starter 
Been away for a few days and will just give a quick update

First alluringreality, thank you for your comments I will have a look at the folder structure and see if I can find any issues

Regarding the popup and the square button on the ps3 I will have a look and see what can be done.

I will have a look on the field patterns and update the description "Color" where required.

Regarding "and the basic patterns auto advance after the first one in the series." the pictures are encoded for 5/6 seconds, zoyd could I get you to encode them for a bit longer, say 30 sec?
Edited by visca blaugrana - 7/25/12 at 11:59am
post #344 of 631
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

no, each xyY target is calculated using a gamma value interpolated from your measured curve.

So, I need to enter the entire 11-pt points of grayscale data (all Y values)?
post #345 of 631
The more points you enter, the better the interpolation will be (although black level through 5% is not needed for the targets on sheet 1). The spreadsheet uses whatever is provided. If one wanted to do this absolutely correctly you would enter 21pts for each channel (R, G, B) but I doubt people would have the patience for that so I just assume gamma is the same for each channel. smile.gif
post #346 of 631
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Originally Posted by visca blaugrana View Post

Regarding "and the basic patterns auto advance after the first one in the series." the pictures are encoded for 5/6 seconds, zoyd could I get you to encode them for a bit longer, say 30 sec?
Actually, I like the fact that the disc is on the small side. I don't mind pressing pause. The bigger the disc gets, the longer everything takes for everyone involved.

I would like to see a meter position pattern added when you have time, and if you agree that it would be a useful addition.

BTW, don't think I've thanked you and zoyd for the excellent work you're doing here. Thanks guys! smile.gif
post #347 of 631
I'm afraid I disagree. When I'm done with the current pattern I hit next. It doesn't matter how long the pattern is, one press of the next button gets me to the next pattern.

But when I'm still working on the current pattern and I have to keep hitting back because it auto-advanced to the next pattern it just makes my adjustments take longer.
post #348 of 631
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Originally Posted by rmongiovi View Post

I'm afraid I disagree. When I'm done with the current pattern I hit next. It doesn't matter how long the pattern is, one press of the next button gets me to the next pattern.
But when I'm still working on the current pattern and I have to keep hitting back because it auto-advanced to the next pattern it just makes my adjustments take longer.

+1, making them chapters that don't auto advance at all is the easiest to use for me
post #349 of 631
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

+1, making them chapters that don't auto advance at all is the easiest to use for me

They auto advance because they are just short clips. visca: can you set the chapters to "loop" mode?
post #350 of 631
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

They auto advance because they are just short clips. visca: can you set the chapters to "loop" mode?

well, it would be nice if they were just chapters that just stay in place until you press next chapter
post #351 of 631
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

well, it would be nice if they were just chapters that just stay in place until you press next chapter

The AVS HD709 patterns auto-advance, they are each 5 minutes long.

zoyd's loop mode would be an excellent solution if it's possible.
post #352 of 631
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

+1, making them chapters that don't auto advance at all is the easiest to use for me
+1. Have to agree.

I think that AVS' patterns are a little longer but I could be wrong.
post #353 of 631
One comment on the "I just press pause" statement above. There was some discussion a long time ago (maybe with respect to the getgray disk) that the chapters were made to loop because some (many? all?) players have a visible difference in what is displayed when playing versus when paused. I've never wanted to calibrate using a paused pattern because I want to calibrate with things as close as possible to the way I'll be viewing my content.
post #354 of 631
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

The AVS HD709 patterns auto-advance, they are each 5 minutes long.
zoyd's loop mode would be an excellent solution if it's possible.

5 mins would do the trick as well, but the approach I'm suggesting (as found on the Disney WOW disc) seems ideal.

I not familiar with what the loop mode entails, can anyone explain it to me?
post #355 of 631
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

I not familiar with what the loop mode entails, can anyone explain it to me?

Encore has an option to endlessly repeat (loop) a video. I don't remember encore having an option to chapter advance to another video from a looped video, so navigating between looped clips may require a menu or popup menu.
post #356 of 631
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Originally Posted by alluringreality View Post

Encore has an option to endlessly repeat (loop) a video.

and each pattern would be considered a separate video, correct?
post #357 of 631
Thread Starter 
I Will not set each pattern as loop, this will make everything more complicated then needed. At the moment each pattern is encoded for 60 sec, if this it to short I can encrease the time, but this will only be done for the final release (due to the time it take to encode the video -my laptop is not the fastest)



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post #358 of 631
Quote:
Originally Posted by visca blaugrana View Post

I Will not set each pattern as loop, this will make everything more complicated then needed. At the moment each pattern is encoded for 60 sec, if this it to short I can encrease the time, but this will only be done for the final release (due to the time it take to encode the video -my laptop is not the fastest)
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I only had the issue with the "basic patterns".
post #359 of 631
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincentfam View Post

Thanks for the assistance alluringreality. I will try the steps that you suggested and I believe sooner or later the download will work.
Vincentfam

try the 4.3.9 avchd strict version
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8li9di
post #360 of 631
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Originally Posted by visca blaugrana View Post

try the 4.3.9 avchd strict version
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8li9di

what's the difference between AVCHD and AVCHD strict? if I can't get the pop-up menus to work with the regular version, will the strict version fare any better?
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