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Sony HX750 vs. HX850?

post #1 of 80
4/20/12 at 8:04am
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Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the Sony HX750 vs. HX850?
Looking for a new set for my bedroom, don't know what I am going to buy yet. Thanks for the info. John
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post #2 of 80
4/20/12 at 5:19pm
HX850: 240HZ refresh with XR 960, deeper blacks, gorilla glass, better picture all around.

HX750: 240hz refresh with XR480, no gorilla glass, worse picture/worse 3d, $500+ less.

It really depends what your price range is, both TVs share the same internet connected options for content (netflix, amazon, huluplus, DLNA, sony videos etc etc.) But the HX850 will provide better picture quality, better black levels, better 3d and faster image processing due to it's higher motionflow "XR technology".

You might be better off with an HX820, since it's a 2011 it costs A LOT less but offers the same specs (and WAY better picture quality/black levels) then the hx750.


HX850:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666415300

HX750:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666415292
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post #3 of 80
4/20/12 at 5:25pm
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Thanks for the help! I am going to look into the HX820. I have the HX929 out in the living room, this is going to be for the bedroom
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post #4 of 80
4/20/12 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by brickyardz View Post

Thanks for the help! I am going to look into the HX820. I have the HX929 out in the living room, this is going to be for the bedroom

nice! None of these will compare to the 929, as i'm sure you are aware. HX750 > HX820 > HX850 in terms of picture quality, black levels and 3D. good luck!
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post #5 of 80
4/20/12 at 6:29pm
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Let me ask you this, if I just wanted to get a 1080p set, no internet, no 3D, what would you pick? Thanks again. John
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post #6 of 80
4/20/12 at 7:18pm
I guess it would depend on how bright the room is and what i wanted to spend. As an example, i have a den and i don't really need anything spectacular in there, so i spent $300 on a 42 inch 1080p westinghouse. Works fine, I don't expect it to last forever but it's 1080p and i have my other TVs for the videophile in me.

You could go this route, or get something slightly more expensive. It also depends on how big you want it. If you watch sports on this TV, i would suggest at least 120hz as it's base refresh rate.

Sony has a 32/40/46 inch variant of their EX720 line that i found to be really good, awesome for sports. Just don't use the 3D on it. It also has all the internet apps that Sony offers which is nice. Prices should be 400-1000 depending on the size.

Sony has a newer TV (the EX640 series) which has no 3D but from what i've seen is a great little set. Looks like it comes in a few different sizes, but will cost more because it's a 2012 model.
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post #7 of 80
4/20/12 at 7:22pm
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My bedroom is dark. Only time I am in there watching tv is right when I go to bed. Looking for something around 46". I'll take a look at the 720 and the 640. Thanks again.
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post #8 of 80
4/20/12 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post


Sony has a newer TV (the EX640 series) which has no 3D but from what i've seen is a great little set. Looks like it comes in a few different sizes, but will cost more because it's a 2012 model.

Seeing that tv next to the hx750, the 640 looked cleary better to me. Still hx820/850 would be the way to go, imo.
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post #9 of 80
5/9/12 at 12:33pm
Where would you place the hx729 in comparison to the 750 and 820?
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post #10 of 80
5/9/12 at 4:43pm
HX-729 is better Tv set has all features that 820 has less gorilla glass i have
820 and 729 in my family both have same picture quality but looks 820 very
well.
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post #11 of 80
6/9/12 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post

HX850: 240HZ refresh with XR 960, deeper blacks, gorilla glass, better picture all around.


HX750: 240hz refresh with XR480, no gorilla glass, worse picture/worse 3d, $500+ less.


It really depends what your price range is, both TVs share the same internet connected options for content (netflix, amazon, huluplus, DLNA, sony videos etc etc.) But the HX850 will provide better picture quality, better black levels, better 3d and faster image processing due to it's higher motionflow "XR technology".


You might be better off with an HX820, since it's a 2011 it costs A LOT less but offers the same specs (and WAY better picture quality/black levels) then the hx750.



HX850:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666415300


HX750:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666415292

Wow what a ridiculous reply. Gorilla Glass as a plus over the 750? This isn't a cell phone. Granted if the room has zero windows and is dark as all get out, then Gorilla Glass can be noted as a "slick addition". Then again, if it's going in a bedroom, chances are the TV wont be seen by as many that would see the 929 in the living room. If money is no issue, then certainly get the higher model. But to think the 750 cant achieve black levels akin to the 850 just indicates a lack of trying (it took me 8 minutes to find the right settings for this). I have a 750 with black levels matching that of my 2011 820. Knowlegde is power folks.
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post #12 of 80
7/30/12 at 5:54pm
Hey Gator,

Feel like sharing your screen settings with me? smile.gif

Just bought the 55" HX750 (couldn't justify the extra $500-$600 on the HX850) and am researching around at optimal settings.

Thanks!
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post #13 of 80
8/1/12 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by Jeff3002 View Post

Hey Gator,
Feel like sharing your screen settings with me? smile.gif
Just bought the 55" HX750 (couldn't justify the extra $500-$600 on the HX850) and am researching around at optimal settings.
Thanks!

Yeah, I would like to know this as well. I have serached around but have not found anything for this set. I don't like the settings Cnet posted for this set.
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post #14 of 80
8/23/12 at 10:40pm
If anyone wants the settings for the HX750, I've got them. They rock!
I went to my retailer and calibrated there floor models and they were blown away..
Drop me a note if someone wants them and I'll post them.
Happy viewing..smile.gif
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post #15 of 80
8/24/12 at 2:13am
Hey kgunn, any chance of you posting your settings here for the HX750 ? That would be great.
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post #16 of 80
8/24/12 at 10:25am
Here ya go... These were given to me by a friend who calibrates these things.. The results are stunning!
Now I want feed back on what everyone thinks...(lol)... First off, go to CNN and if you can pause the picture during a scene when one of the anchors is speaking, that will help you see the results.
CNN's HD is among the best "live HD" programming. Ok here we go:
1. Go to menu and access Preferences, select scence setting and change it to "Cinema1 or 2" doesn't matter. (Don't freak out, it gets dark at first)
2. Backlight: max
2. Picture : max
3. Brightness: 50
4. Color: 60
5. Hue: 0
6. Color Temp: Cool
7. Sharpness: 82
8. Noise: off Mpeg: off Dot: off
9. Motion: Smooth
10. Cine: Auto1
ADVANCED MENU:
1. Black Corrector: High
2. Advanced Contrast: off
3. Gamma: +1
4. Auto Light: off
5.Clear white: High
6. Live color: off or low (depending on your taste)
7. White Balance: (adjust these only) Green gain -1 Red bia's +1 Green bia's -2 Blue bia's +1
8. Detail:high Edge: high

These settings will make your picture look the best it can.. Blacks are solid, no color bleeding, perfect brightness, no edge lighting issues, colors are realistic, flesh tone is on the money, etc... Now pop in a Blue Ray (Hunger games) and be prepared to be blown away. DON'T FORGET TO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!
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post #17 of 80
8/24/12 at 10:29am
UPDATE to my post:::
After going to the Preferences and changing the scene to Cinema 1 you then need to go picture setting and begin with your settings... I'm sure most of you probably realized that, just was making sure. eek.gif
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post #18 of 80
8/27/12 at 9:47pm
smile.gif Thanks an awful lot for the settings. At first they seemed a little too saturated, as far as the color setting went, but I kept yours on Cinema 2. I entered my settings on Cinema 1. I have Dish Network as a source, and did an a/b test...your settings beat mine! The only change I made was to go from COOL to Neutral. I got the 46HX750 as part of a settlement with Sony, and was the best of the three sets offered me. Unfortunately it is too small since it is replacing a 55" Samsung A950 LED. Which I gave to my son. Thanks again.
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post #19 of 80
8/28/12 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by kgunn View Post

Here ya go... These were given to me by a friend who calibrates these things.. The results are stunning!
Now I want feed back on what everyone thinks...(lol)... First off, go to CNN and if you can pause the picture during a scene when one of the anchors is speaking, that will help you see the results.
CNN's HD is among the best "live HD" programming. Ok here we go:
1. Go to menu and access Preferences, select scence setting and change it to "Cinema1 or 2" doesn't matter. (Don't freak out, it gets dark at first)
2. Backlight: max
2. Picture : max
3. Brightness: 50
4. Color: 60
5. Hue: 0
6. Color Temp: Cool
7. Sharpness: 82
8. Noise: off Mpeg: off Dot: off
9. Motion: Smooth
10. Cine: Auto1
ADVANCED MENU:
1. Black Corrector: High
2. Advanced Contrast: off
3. Gamma: +1
4. Auto Light: off
5.Clear white: High
6. Live color: off or low (depending on your taste)
7. White Balance: (adjust these only) Green gain -1 Red bia's +1 Green bia's -2 Blue bia's +1
8. Detail:high Edge: high
These settings will make your picture look the best it can.. Blacks are solid, no color bleeding, perfect brightness, no edge lighting issues, colors are realistic, flesh tone is on the money, etc... Now pop in a Blue Ray (Hunger games) and be prepared to be blown away. DON'T FORGET TO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!

I dunno man, this may have looked outstanding in a show room floor setting, or even a living room with lots of windows or lighting. But in my Dank dark cave this was almost blinding haha

Thanks for the settings though! I'm always willing to give a different set up a go!
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post #20 of 80
8/28/12 at 11:43am
Gatorboi,
These settings aren't for Vampires my friend..(lol)... They represent real life/real time viewing... Glad you liked the settings Jcord51... We all need to get used to more acurate/vivid colors from TV's of today.
At the end of the day its what someones own individual preference is that ultimitley decides what looks best..
The settings I give are close to what you would see if you were actually watching the scene live in person.
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post #21 of 80
8/28/12 at 11:44am
Did u calibrate your TV yet??? What do you think??

KGUNN
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post #22 of 80
8/29/12 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by vincevega44 View Post


Seeing that tv next to the hx750, the 640 looked cleary better to me. Still hx820/850 would be the way to go, imo.

Does this comment have any basis? I'm comparing (only on paper) the EX640 and the HX750 - I didn't imagine that the EX640 could EVER have a better picture quality??
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post #23 of 80
8/30/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by lucidream View Post

Does this comment have any basis? I'm comparing (only on paper) the EX640 and the HX750 - I didn't imagine that the EX640 could EVER have a better picture quality??

I own the 750 and my cousin owns the 640. There is no comparison. The picture quality isn't THAT much off, but everything else about the set is. The build quality just looks cheaper (cheaper parts), the screen panel itself is more glossy and looks cheaper, the menu set up is way different, the internet aspects are spotty and comes with an external dongle not built in WiFi.

750 is in a whole different class than the 640. Side by side the 640 doesn't even feel like a Sony.
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post #24 of 80
10/22/12 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post

Wow what a ridiculous reply. Gorilla Glass as a plus over the 750? This isn't a cell phone. Granted if the room has zero windows and is dark as all get out, then Gorilla Glass can be noted as a "slick addition". Then again, if it's going in a bedroom, chances are the TV wont be seen by as many that would see the 929 in the living room. If money is no issue, then certainly get the higher model. But to think the 750 cant achieve black levels akin to the 850 just indicates a lack of trying (it took me 8 minutes to find the right settings for this). I have a 750 with black levels matching that of my 2011 820. Knowlegde is power folks.

I was under the impression the the Gorilla Glass was actually less reflective. It's been a while since I looked at them in store, but from what I remember I didn't see any glare problems on the 850. I'm still narrowing my choices so I will return to Best Buy tomorrow to check it out again.

I'm down to deciding between the HX750 vs HX850 vs LM7600. Looking at a 55 and it seems the LG has problems from what I've read, in fact it looks as though Amazon has stopped selling it. I've also looked at the Sammy 6500 series but ruled it out after reading of the lousy power plug placement on the rear of the unit that is blocked by a lot of mounts. Nice going Samsung.

The TV is going in a sorta bad location....our "Great Room." It is going above the fireplace opposite an entire wall of windows. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. It is also quite high so I will be purchasing a tilt wall mount. If anyone has a suggestion on a slim mount that tilts I would love to hear it.
Edited by shinerburke - 10/22/12 at 8:00pm
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post #25 of 80
10/23/12 at 11:44am
I went by at lunch to check out the glare comparison between the 850 & 750. They had moved the display sets such that they were no longer next to each other and one is now mounted higher than the other so it made doing a comparison a bit tricky.

I will say that the 850 did seem to be throwing a bit more reflection from the lights, but it wasn't too bad. The PQ on both seemed to be close, but you never know how those things are configured in store. That said I think both are very nice sets and still haven't made up my mind between the two. I am also still considering the LG but am a bit wary of it.

To add to my difficulty the wife said this morning that a 55 may be to big and we might want to step down a size. Women.....always complaining about things being too big. Am I right guys? wink.gif
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post #26 of 80
10/24/12 at 12:34am
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Originally Posted by shinerburke View Post

I went by at lunch to check out the glare comparison between the 850 & 750. They had moved the display sets such that they were no longer next to each other and one is now mounted higher than the other so it made doing a comparison a bit tricky.
I will say that the 850 did seem to be throwing a bit more reflection from the lights, but it wasn't too bad. The PQ on both seemed to be close, but you never know how those things are configured in store. That said I think both are very nice sets and still haven't made up my mind between the two. I am also still considering the LG but am a bit wary of it.
To add to my difficulty the wife said this morning that a 55 may be to big and we might want to step down a size. Women.....always complaining about things being too big. Am I right guys? wink.gif

I hear yeah,
"This house is too big
This car is too big
This TV is too big
The bills are to 'big'
And so on...

This and that and I never hear her compliment me.
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post #27 of 80
10/24/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by shinerburke View Post

I was under the impression the the Gorilla Glass was actually less reflective. It's been a while since I looked at them in store, but from what I remember I didn't see any glare problems on the 850. I'm still narrowing my choices so I will return to Best Buy tomorrow to check it out again.
I'm down to deciding between the HX750 vs HX850 vs LM7600. Looking at a 55 and it seems the LG has problems from what I've read, in fact it looks as though Amazon has stopped selling it. I've also looked at the Sammy 6500 series but ruled it out after reading of the lousy power plug placement on the rear of the unit that is blocked by a lot of mounts. Nice going Samsung.
The TV is going in a sorta bad location....our "Great Room." It is going above the fireplace opposite an entire wall of windows. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. It is also quite high so I will be purchasing a tilt wall mount. If anyone has a suggestion on a slim mount that tilts I would love to hear it.

If 3D is of no importance get one of the Sonys. If it is, the LG would be better from the standpoint of ghosting/flicker. Amazon probably quit selling the 7600 due to availability problems. I work for Sears and we sell the 6700 and 7600 LGs--there was a period of a few weeks when we just couldn't get any and the LG rep told us there were nationwide shortages of them--has nothing to do with any problems with the sets themselves. They're just now coming back on line.
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post #28 of 80
10/24/12 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by Steve S View Post

If 3D is of no importance get one of the Sonys. If it is, the LG would be better from the standpoint of ghosting/flicker. Amazon probably quit selling the 7600 due to availability problems. I work for Sears and we sell the 6700 and 7600 LGs--there was a period of a few weeks when we just couldn't get any and the LG rep told us there were nationwide shortages of them--has nothing to do with any problems with the sets themselves. They're just now coming back on line.

Thanks for the info. 3D is not of great importance for where this set would be going. It will likely be used from time to time, but not much.

I just looked and Amazon has removed the notice they had up on the 55 inch set. I seem to recall it said something about customer reported issues, but who knows. Maybe it was just a supply issue.
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post #29 of 80
10/30/12 at 7:20am
Time to replace our 6 year old 47" Toshiba Regza in family room. After reading alot here and other places I've narrowed my search down to the 750 or 850. I've read every page on the 750 and 850 threads and both sound promising. Sound & Vision had a great review on the 55HX850 recently. I really don't care too much about 3D but realize manufacturers put their emphasis on higher end sets. I'm 60 so gaming isn't a factor either. Difference in cost isn't a factor if in the end it will give me a better set. Family room has 6 windows, 4 facing south and 2 facing west so reflection could be an issue. Current Tosh has a matte finish screen and works well. I have to travel 40 miles to nearest Magnolia to compare the 2 as local BB only has the 750. The Gorilla glass might be the deciding factor if it reflects too much. I'm a little concerned about the lack of CMS too. Should I be? How do you guys tweak the color to your liking? I know in the end it's my decision but any other input between the 2 sets would be appreciated.
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post #30 of 80
10/30/12 at 9:51am
My main suggestion is to purchase it from a place with an easy return policy. If the 850's issue is glare, you'll know within the return period. If the 750's issue is blacks, you'll know within the return period.
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