Originally Posted by Zoroastro
Yeah, I always played Wii games in 4:3 for max quality, stretched 16:9 is a really milky and blurry picture. In fact, I'm even a bit upset with Nintendo, because the best Wii games don't have a native 4:3 mode, so that one is obliged to use the dreaded anamorphic picture (ex. Donkey Kong Country Returns, Skyward Sword).
Regarding this matter, do you also use 4:3 with your plasma? Don't you notice any uneveness till now? How is X5 in regard to Image Retention? Things that I fear the most with Panasonic are green ghosting and I.R.
Today I've seen in a shop Panasonic X5, Ut50 and Samsung e550. I noticed a hint of green ghosting on the X5 that was demoing an almost-black-and-white desaturated clip and that worries me for the Ut50 too (but probably it's me being really sesitive to this thing).
Ut50 looked wonderful in HD but honestly Samsung did too. At the moment I'm evaluating the Samsung as maybe the best purchase. I've tried at home (and returned for bad clouding) Samsung's lcd eh5000 ,which uses the exact same Mstar processor of the e550 (they even have the same exact menu and controls), and I've been really impressed by its scaling algorithm. Wii was amazing and 720p Ps3 games got an unbelievable level of detail and crispness even in comparison with my 32" 720p Toshiba. Input lag also looked very low to me (easy 1-frame links in SSFIV, but input lag doesn't bother me so much, even if I consider myself an hardcore gamer) and e550 should be theorethically the same. Other than that, I noticed in the shop on this plasma great uniformity, no motion artifacts and really low level of dithering (maybe lower than Panasonic, then it's obvious for all this things it must be tested at home). Perhaps it won't have Panasonic absolute blacks, but for the rest it could be a really good alternative and at a bargain price. (799 euro here in Italy with 2 pair of 3d glasses included and it also has 3 hdmi inputs that's not bad).
PS: Would you mind taking a couple shots of Wii on your X50? I would be really grateful to you!
So how does the Wii look on a 50"/51" via component cables?
I always crank the sharpness up to 100(looks its best) and the contrast as well. at least on a plasma, like in the X5's case. I'm still blown
away by it's brightness in game mode and the extremely vibrant, rich and colorful colors you can achieve
with the basic color controls. Color management enabled adds additional lag so be sure to turn it off, and by having the color
matrix set to 'SD' causes a lot more lag as well EVEN if you're playing 480p content. So setting it to HD regard;ess is a must and of
course turning off video noise reduction.
I'm also leaning towards the 51" E550....but I'm worred that it won't beable to produce a bright enough picture in comparison
to panasonics 2012 plasma lineup. and i'm curious about the color as well. I had a horrible experience with the 42" 720p D450
from last year....When playing the wii, the set seemed to have this nasty filter-like blurry look, as if vasalene was smeared across the screen and it was
way too dim for my liking. I'll admit i didn't spend enough time on it to fully make sure if CATS was turned off, plus
during that time i never had the wii set to 4:3. I i could of sworn i turned off the cats though...hmmm. XP
Also, here's a trick you should do for titles that are designed to be in widescreen for the wii like NSMBWii, kirby's return
to dreamland, skyward sword, donkey kong country returns ect ect. In the wii menu, stick the wii in widescreen and on your
TV remote stick your tv in full screen and whalla, you'll get a super crisp & clear 4:3 image without any bars.
You'd think that the picture would look a bit squashed, but in my experience it doesn't at all. It looks perfectly fine to me.
I've also got a wii HDMI adapter....and while HDMI delivers an even brighter picture, crisper/sharper image and the like
this specific Neoya adapter i have produces extremely limey greens and purple-ish blues to the point of color crushing. sigh*
The E550 also does 1 frame of input lag when you label HDMI to 'PC" but it locks out certain basic picture controls and
that's a complete deal breaker. So by not using 'PC' apperantly youg get 2 frames...I planned on getting last years S30
because apperantly the S30 and ST30(wont get the ST30 because of the added in filtre which makes the PQ look worse) are
the wholy grail of panasonic plasma gaming as far as input lag in concerned...But i can't test the S30 out, instead i'd
have to order one online and take a chance...
I'd love to know how Brightness Levels, color, input lag, blacks levels and crisp/clearness of the E550 and UT50 stack up
against one another. B-)
Oh and as far as gaming goes on the X5, there are a bit of motion artifacts, and green phospher trails are very minimal,
i only barely notice them when playing titles such as metroid prime 3, or anything 3rd or first peson related. keep in mind
to that anything 30fps related will result in image doubling, which you most likely already know anyways. ;p
So yup....E550 Vs the UT50 is what it's going to come down to for me, unless i take the risk and score the S30...