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post #1321 of 2462
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Originally Posted by flbessa View Post

Thanks iBrad..
In fact I tried about 10+ hrs, but will definitely try 60+ hours running pixel jogger. Will also do the white screen as well.
Looking forward to see a good result. Will post back here once I get this done and share the result with you.
Thanks man.
Cheers,
Filipe

You can avoid it ever getting that bad if you just simply use the scrolling bar utility once every 4-6 hours or so of viewing... it shouldn't even get bad enough for you to notice it at all except while you're actually using the scrolling bar and it should fade within minutes... that's how it's been for me at least.

If I was gaming I'd switch to scrolling bar utility whenever I take a break...

As for doing break in stuff sometimes I just do the white screen... if I'm going to be leaving the room I use the pixel jogger strobing one... with or without pink noise. I' I've been watching anything with a static image I just run either the white screen or scrolling bar.... and it's not like I "worry" about it at this point... it's just not a big deal to do it when I'm taking a break from watching something.

Even though I'm a noob when it comes to plasmas... my recommendation is as follows:

If you're going to be leaving the room for under 15 mins use scrolling bar utility and then just resume watching normally when you are back.
If you're going to be gone for longer alternate between the strobing ones.... also use them for a minute before watching.after turning it on. Also sometimes switch it up with whitescreen.
If you're in the room and and aren't watching anything just use the whitescreen, then you won't give yourself a seizure or hypnotize yourself.

I'd have to guess the whitescreen and scrolling bar are best for getting rid of IR while the jogger ones are probably better for breaking it in so to speak. If this isn't all hocus pocus bs to begin with.

Again though, I'm basing this on only about 3-4 days of use.

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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Download this UT50 service manual:
http://elektrotanya.com/panasonic_tc-p55ut50_ch_gpf15du.pdf/download.html
It will show how enter the service menu (mode), adjustments and save the orignals settings on SD card first.
Don't bother with a professional calibration as your "cheap" UT50 model don't have advanced user (ISF) menu's/modes: wb, gamma, grayscale, RGB finetune adjustments etc.
You can do the White Balance Adjustment (WB-AdJ) yourself by eye in the UT50 service mode only.
Factory setting was crap, all too reddish/yellowish as the ALL-DRV =/and G-DRV was left on max FF setting, this cause the contrast "bloom" and possibly the green blob enhanced.
Set first the ALL DRV (=G-DRV) to lower stepdown e.g. ALL-DRV= EB, R-DRV/B-DRV automatically steps down the same amount.
Use a greyscale, RGB color chart etc. to fine tune the RGB DRV/CUT.
Keep break in with pixel jogger the first 100+ hrs. Use regulary to max out the tv performance.
Green blob, IR, buzz, linebleed, flickering, general PQ will mostly settle down after 1000+ hrs usage.

Thanks, I'll fiddle with the service mode a bit later when I actually feel like messing with settings again. I haven't been breaking it in quite as much as i would otherwise because I'm taking this week off and I want to have fun with my new plasma. I'm just being careful to switch to scrolling bar utility if I'm going to nuke something in the microwave or brush my teeth or whatever.... and then use the whitescreen and/or pixel jogger while I'm out shopping.
Edited by damag0r - 11/18/12 at 11:32am
post #1322 of 2462
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

No, it's different for 2012.
Thanks! I just ordered to for 15 bucks, but i cancelled my order smile.gif
post #1323 of 2462
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Originally Posted by rappit View Post

Thanks! I just ordered to for 15 bucks, but i cancelled my order smile.gif

Yeah you want the ones with a 4 in the model number. Sorry my post was so short earlier, I was using my phone to reply. The 2012 3D glasses actually have a standard this year so you can buy other brands, most people choose the Samsung active shutter because they're $20/pair instead if the Panasonic $80/pair. I almost bought the Samsung ones when I bought my TV but decided that since I was financing everything with 0% APR for 3 years that the Panasonic glasses were worth it because they're rechargeable and battery life was said to last longer than the replaceable batteries of the Samsung glasses. They also look better built/more solid than the Samsung glasses.
post #1324 of 2462
my 55UT50 develope a "line" on the right side,this "line" is strange...in the right side looks like when you increase brightness a little too much and on the other looks normal (duller)(i know the way i explain is no a "line"but i cant find the right word) anyway i returned to BB today and and get a Samsung 60e550 and see if i have better luck this time.
post #1325 of 2462
sorry double post
post #1326 of 2462
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Yeah you want the ones with a 4 in the model number. Sorry my post was so short earlier, I was using my phone to reply. The 2012 3D glasses actually have a standard this year so you can buy other brands, most people choose the Samsung active shutter because they're $20/pair instead if the Panasonic $80/pair. I almost bought the Samsung ones when I bought my TV but decided that since I was financing everything with 0% APR for 3 years that the Panasonic glasses were worth it because they're rechargeable and battery life was said to last longer than the replaceable batteries of the Samsung glasses. They also look better built/more solid than the Samsung glasses.
Will the ssg-4100gb work?
post #1327 of 2462
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Originally Posted by PRBR View Post

my 55UT50 develope a "line" on the right side,this "line" is strange...in the right side looks like when you increase brightness a little too much and on the other looks normal (duller)(i know the way i explain is no a "line"but i cant find the right word) anyway i returned to BB today and and get a Samsung 60e550 and see if i have better luck this time.

Should have returned it for another UT50 and just used Anikun's service mode settings... I wasn't extremely satisfied with the colors until I tried his settings and now I am very happy. wink.gif
post #1328 of 2462
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Originally Posted by rappit View Post

Will the ssg-4100gb work?

Hey, new UT50 owner here smile.gif
Bought two pairs last week, they're working very well (Even when worn over my prescription glasses).

I was a little worried at first as I could see the active shutter flicker, but they are great in a darkened room.
Wore them for around six hours on Saturday night with occasional breaks and felt no discomfort.
The batteries (CR2025) seem to be dirt cheap on eBay, so the lack of re-charge function is not really an issue.

I am still waiting to see if Panasonic honour my claim for two free pairs. The Samsung's will make great backups.
post #1329 of 2462
What if they don't sync? Btw, thx for the reply.
post #1330 of 2462
The TV should automatically sync when you turn them on.
post #1331 of 2462
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Originally Posted by rappit View Post

What if they don't sync? Btw, thx for the reply.

There won't be any sync problems. The 2012 Samsung and Panasonic glasses both use compatible Bluetooth signals smile.gif

Funnily enough two free pairs of Panasonic glasses just arrived! Only took 7 days, much quicker than expected.
Only had a quick look, but I'll compare them properly this evening. My immediate impression is that they are not worth the extra cost.
Edited by MBeeching - 11/19/12 at 9:17am
post #1332 of 2462
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Originally Posted by damag0r View Post

Should have returned it for another UT50 and just used Anikun's service mode settings... I wasn't extremely satisfied with the colors until I tried his settings and now I am very happy. wink.gif

they dont have in stock 55ut50...only 50ut50 and 55st50 and i dont want to wait 2 weeks for delivery so lets see how it goes.maybe i get the st50 and see if i have better luck.thanks!!
post #1333 of 2462
The ST50 has the louvre filter which some owners feel it causes DSE and removes a clarity the UT50 has without it. The UT50 also comes in 60 inch screens too.
post #1334 of 2462
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Originally Posted by MBeeching View Post

There won't be any sync problems. The 2012 Samsung and Panasonic glasses both use compatible Bluetooth signals smile.gif
Funnily enough two free pairs of Panasonic glasses just arrived! Only took 7 days, much quicker than expected.
Only had a quick look, but I'll compare them properly this evening. My immediate impression is that they are not worth the extra cost.
Cool, i will buy 1 ssg4100 and see how it works
post #1335 of 2462
New to this thread but avid ST thread reader. Still deciding between UT and ST (55").

I know you guys are ALL about PQ and I've seen both pros and cons for each set so I know about those. My question is more in the realm of sound. YES! I tried searching thread for sound comparisons but didn't find much. Maybe my search of "sound" was not deep enough though...

In my case this sound issue is important b/c the $200-$300 I save by going w/ the UT may be spent on the Panny sound bar (SC-HTB 550). HOWEVER, if I up for the ST I may not need a soundbar. WHY? Well I don't know....that's why I am here asking. I would think that the ST's speakers ( Front speaker (8 train speakers) x 2, Woofer (ø80 mm) x 1 [from Panasonic site]) would have to account for a difference to the UT (2 speakers [from Panasonic site]).

Can anyone in this thread confirm if this difference is noticeable? rolleyes.gif I know that TV speakers are never going to be as good as a soundbar, just like a soundbar will never be as good as a surround system so no need to tell me this. wink.gif

Either TV will be an upgrade from my '08 42" VIZIO that needs to played at a volume of 65 when streaming NetFlix so that I can understand what's going on from 13' away on my couch.
post #1336 of 2462
I would recommend UT50 and soundbar unless you need the louvre filter for glare reduction. If you have a nice dark room then the UT50 is the better value, I think. In that's case, get the soundbar with the money saved or put it toward a multichannel system. For a little bit more you could easily get a fair 2.0 stereo system that I think would outperform a soundbar. You should have read that the ST50 should have a better Viera experience because the additional processing power. But for calibration purposes, I think it's just 2 point, but it's in the regular picture menu.
post #1337 of 2462
I return a ut50 that develope a issue in the screen and get a st50 and i like it much better than the ut50.
post #1338 of 2462
Can you kind people please sum up the major "known issues" in the UT50?

For example, my V20 has:

- Floating blacks
- Buzzing issue due to cracking transformers
etc.
post #1339 of 2462
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Originally Posted by PRBR View Post

I return a ut50 that develope a issue in the screen and get a st50 and i like it much better than the ut50.
About the pq?
post #1340 of 2462
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Originally Posted by MBeeching View Post

There won't be any sync problems. The 2012 Samsung and Panasonic glasses both use compatible Bluetooth signals smile.gif
Funnily enough two free pairs of Panasonic glasses just arrived! Only took 7 days, much quicker than expected.
Only had a quick look, but I'll compare them properly this evening. My immediate impression is that they are not worth the extra cost.

How did you score two free pairs of glasses?
post #1341 of 2462
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Originally Posted by rappit View Post

About the pq?
nop.that was not the reason.it was a vertical line on the right side of the screen.
post #1342 of 2462
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh View Post

How did you score two free pairs of glasses?

I am based in the UK, they are running a promotion for purchases between Aug-Dec 2012.
http://promotions.panasonic.co.uk/offer/smart-viera-3d-glasses-promotion/landing/

I wasn't 100% certain I was eligible, but received two pairs after submitting a scan of the receipt and a photo of the serial number.
They appear to be the TY-ERD4MA model, so they don't offer USB charging. It's a minor disappointment, though they thankfully use the same CR2025 batteries as the Samsung's.

Amazingly these models seem to be no cheaper online, it's all very confusing. Just like all these conflicting 3D standards rolleyes.gif

I actually think the Samsung's are better if you wear them over prescription glasses. It is also much easier to change the battery on the Samsung glasses. The Panasonic's have a tiny little screw which is just begging, (or inevitably) going to thread itself.

Of course the Panasonic glasses won the 'guest' test. They do look much better.
post #1343 of 2462
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Originally Posted by MBeeching View Post

I am based in the UK, they are running a promotion for purchases between Aug-Dec 2012.
http://promotions.panasonic.co.uk/offer/smart-viera-3d-glasses-promotion/landing/
I wasn't 100% certain I was eligible, but received two pairs after submitting a scan of the receipt and a photo of the serial number.
They appear to be the TY-ERD4MA model, so they don't offer USB charging. It's a minor disappointment, though they thankfully use the same CR2025 batteries as the Samsung's.
Amazingly these models seem to be no cheaper online, it's all very confusing. Just like all these conflicting 3D standards rolleyes.gif
I actually think the Samsung's are better if you wear them over prescription glasses. It is also much easier to change the battery on the Samsung glasses. The Panasonic's have a tiny little screw which is just begging, (or inevitably) going to thread itself.
Of course the Panasonic glasses won the 'guest' test. They do look much better.
So you have the ssg-4100gb sammys? 100% that they work, cause i want to order one, but i am not certain.
post #1344 of 2462
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Originally Posted by rappit View Post

So you have the ssg-4100gb sammys? 100% that they work, cause i want to order one, but i am not certain.


I can 100% confirm that the ssg-4100gb's work with the UT50.
There are no sync issues and the 3D effect seems to match the Panasonic models.

I could take a photo of my TV and glasses collection if you still have reservations tongue.gif
post #1345 of 2462
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Originally Posted by MBeeching View Post

I can 100% confirm that the ssg-4100gb's work with the UT50.
There are no sync issues and the 3D effect seems to match the Panasonic models.
I could take a photo of my TV and glasses collection if you still have reservations tongue.gif
Got my SSG-4100. Holy ...... the 3D on this tv is amazing biggrin.gif Thanks for the reply, will buy another 3 SSG
post #1346 of 2462
Samsung and Panasonic share a 3d Bluetooth Standard, this is the first year there has been any kind of standard for active shutter, before each company used their own proprietary interaction.
post #1347 of 2462
I am so close to pulling the trigger on the 55" version today. Worried a bit about gaming and lag but I guess I can always return it and hopefully get a PM from Amazon if it goes cheaper than today. What an ordeal. I feel like there is no truly good gaming tv this year and almost just got one of last year's models. I would have done if they weren't so pricey.
post #1348 of 2462
Many people have said you can't find a TV with less lag time this year than the UT50.
post #1349 of 2462
Game mode works very well for gaming,all other modes are pretty bad. My shot/hit registration was horrible in call of duty on every mode except game. I accidentally played in cinema mode the other night and was getting raped and wondered why and then i remembered i had changed it from game to watch the dark knight rises and as soon as i changed it back to game i was a beast again lol.
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I want to get some 3D glasses for my Panasonic UT50 55". I know it takes active glasses, but the price for the Panasonic glasses are rather expensive for 2 pairs. I was wondering if anyone knows much about 3D glasses made by "3Active"? They are reasonably price for 2 pairs. I found them on Amazon.com. Are they worth getting or will I be better off paying the price on the Panasonic glasses?

 

Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/PANASONIC-Compatible-3ACTIVE%C2%AE-Glasses-Rechargeable-TWIN-PACK/dp/B008BUGZFK/ref=sr_1_23?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1353753655&sr=1-23&keywords=panasonic+ut50+3d+glasses

Any info anyone might have, mainly, will they work just as good as the Panasonic's?

Thanks,

Ghpr13smile.gif


Edited by Ghpr13 - 11/24/12 at 2:51am
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