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post #1651 of 2596
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Originally Posted by watcher6 View Post

is it true for the 3d glasses to work properly you have to be in a direct line with the tv? on a youtube video i saw a bit earlier they said with the glasses to work properly it has to be in a direct line to the tv but that was for "led", i watch my tv below it where i'm looking up, there is no direct line to my tv would it still work with the glasses on plasma if you were looking up to the tv... i lay in bed while watching tv, i don't know how people sit up in a chair or couch i find it to be too uncomfortable for long sessions.
that's one thing that turned me off to lcd you seemed to need to have a direct viewing angle for it to be at it's best.
yeah, the battery vs recharging is an interesting one... i'm gonna have to look into that further.
looks like the 80 dollar pair are on sale for 60 at amazon.
i better decide soon haha.

I think they are that price for amazon (tho I could be wrong)

The best part of plasma 3d it just works at about any angle (Almost, the extremes), I did just test under the TV within 5 feet and it did work so it should in your case also (hopefully your not that close to the TV), and these are bluetooth so they just work, on my sony LED 3D, I had a sensor that had to be placed and also had no problems with the glases, but you are correct on pretty much eye level and also could not tilt my head, filters made them better but you could not lay down sideways and view 3d on the sony.
post #1652 of 2596
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Originally Posted by pcreel View Post

My parents bought the 55in version of this TV over the weekend. While I was setting it up for them, I ran into a connection issue that I would like some suggestions in trying to find a solution. My dad has a wireless headphone set that connect to the audio out RCA's of the replaced TV and this TV only has the optical out option. I can hook the headphones to the cable box audio out so he can listen to TV shows, but when he wants to watch a blu-ray/dvd there would be no sound thru the headphones.
Any suggestions on how to get the headphones to work without manaully having to unplug from one source and plug into the other?

Another option (and cheaper ) is a splitter so that you can route one pair of headphones to 2 sources. Something like this :

http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Male-Female-inch/dp/B000I98ZYG/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357182768&sr=1-5&keywords=headphone+splitter+female+to+2+male

I was investigating Dolby decoding units for my UT50 as well, some of the Grefen units seem to have some issue with sync-ing the tv pic to the sound when set up.
post #1653 of 2596
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Originally Posted by dfran1 View Post

I think they are that price for amazon (tho I could be wrong)
The best part of plasma 3d it just works at about any angle (Almost, the extremes), I did just test under the TV within 5 feet and it did work so it should in your case also (hopefully your not that close to the TV), and these are bluetooth so they just work, on my sony LED 3D, I had a sensor that had to be placed and also had no problems with the glases, but you are correct on pretty much eye level and also could not tilt my head, filters made them better but you could not lay down sideways and view 3d on the sony.

they are on sale... it shows originally priced at 80 and all the other stores have them at 80. tigerdirect/bestbuy./buy, etc... unless they simply have been on sale for awhile at amazon and that's sort of normal.

oh you need blutooth or wireless? i have none of that... aghhhhhhhhh, i use all wired... i never liked wireless or blutooth.
that's good to know about the angles though.. very good. (nahhh i'm like 8 feet away laying down on a full bed... i don't just watch tv i go into like a meditative trance/sleep while watching haha it's like a religious/spiritual experience to me, tv watching is serious business)
Edited by watcher6 - 1/2/13 at 7:33pm
post #1654 of 2596
This Panasonic plasma is Bluetooth 3d glasses (some new standard for new 3d TV's, if the manufacturer follows it), a form of wireless, I don't know how far from the TVs they will work, maybe someone would like to test that.
post #1655 of 2596
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Originally Posted by dfran1 View Post

This Panasonic plasma is Bluetooth 3d glasses (some new standard for new 3d TV's, if the manufacturer follows it), a form of wireless, I don't know how far from the TVs they will work, maybe someone would like to test that.

it's all inclusive? you don't need like some "base" or hub or anything with a blutooth setup or whatever?
tried to read about it on various sites but none of them seemed to really explain exactly what it was... it just says blutooth but doesn't explain much.

from the website those specific ones it says: "Transmitter for 3D Eyewear within 3.2 m (10.5') from front surface of the TV : The location of the 3D Eyewear transmitter differs depending on the model of television. / There are differences in the viewing range of the 3D Eyewear among individuals. " as far as range is concerned.
Edited by watcher6 - 1/2/13 at 7:56pm
post #1656 of 2596
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Originally Posted by watcher6 View Post

agreed about batteries, i always hate doing that with things.. that might be worth it alone to not deal with changing batteries.
how do you recharge it on the pana? put it on a stand or something?

USB to the TV, or I charged them on my USB hub, under the TV, connected to my PC.


I do know from calibrating you can only get up to like 18" of the screen before you have issues. But I'm not saying you can or should actually view 3D from that close to the TV. tongue.gif
Edited by anikun07 - 1/2/13 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by Yukon Trooper View Post

So I just got home with my new 60UT50. It appears the TV had a previous owner who returned the set....... However, there is one huge issue: it appears whoever owned the TV previously forgot to return the set with the mounting screws.

What "mounting screws" are you talking about? If you're talking about wall mounting screws, then they are never included with the TV - all you get is four plastic covers snapped into the wall mounting holes on the rear panel. Wall mounting screws are always supplied with whatever wall mount you buy.

The only screws that come with the TV are the ones for assembling the stand and attaching it to the TV.
post #1658 of 2596
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

USB to the TV, or I charged them on my USB hub, under the TV, connected to my PC.
I do know from calibrating you can only get up to like 18" of the screen before you have issues. But I'm not saying you can or should actually view 3D from that close to the TV. tongue.gif

dunno if you were referencing my other post but i think it meant 10 feet not inches dunno why it put it like that with the "... i'd probably have a seizure if i viewed it that close to the tv with 3d haha.
when i was younger i used to sit real close to the tv like that and i think it completely messed up my eyes... my vision is horrid now... i learned my lesson.
although if 3-d is how i imagine it and a really hot girl is in 3-d i might be tempted to go 10-18 inches in front of the screen bwahahah.
(but things are rarely how you imagine em so i doubt it)
post #1659 of 2596
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Sounds like possibly an issue with HDMI CEC, try disabling Viera Link in the TV settings.

Thank you for the suggestion. I disabled it and haven't seen the issue since.
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I just picked up the TC-P55UT50 from Costco for the price of 799.99. I had been through two Vizio M3D55KDE models, both had horrible ghosting and the picture looked like a soap opera, and not to mention the picture looks like it has smooth motion turned on, but this model doesn't have smooth motion, so after doing research I choose the Panasonic. I have already order a HDMI pigtail since this tv only has two HDMI ports, also for a wireless adapter do I have to use the Panasonic or can I go with any USB adapter? I'm new to plasma what settings do you all recommend for my tv in terms of picture. I like sports and movies. My tv has a build date of November 2012.
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Hey guys, I'm considering upgrading my 5 year old 50" 720p panny plasma that I'm using as my spare display in my theater room. Just wanted to get your inputs about whether I should pull the trigger in the near future. I actually just got a 60gt50 as a warranty replacement for a Samsung that crapped the bed after a year and I have that in my living room. So far I'm loving it. Do you guys think that the 55 or 60UT50 will compare to it picture wise? I have an AVR so HDMI inputs aren't a concern and the theater room is in my basement so I don't have to worry about reflections from windows, etc. Are there a lot of satisfied UT50 owners out there that want to chime in?

Thanks!
post #1662 of 2596
Hello,

I have a general questions about running the Break-IN DVD. Does this need to be run using the HDMI input, or can I use the Component or Composite inputs instead?

Bill
post #1663 of 2596
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Originally Posted by dmaul1114 View Post

Samsung SSG-4100GB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9P7H0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01
Main difference is that they aren't rechargeable (use CR 2025 batteries which are cheap), aren't as nice looking, and don't block out light on the sides like the Panasonic ones (moot for me as I pretty much only watch movies at night). So well worth the $42 or so savings over the Panasonic ones for me since I won't watch 3D all that often anyway.

Another question for you. Are they any other compatible 3D glasses that will work with this set. I'm just seeing if there are some additional options for me.

Bill
post #1664 of 2596
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Originally Posted by Action378 View Post

Another question for you. Are they any other compatible 3D glasses that will work with this set. I'm just seeing if there are some additional options for me.
Bill

Appears that there are.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409490/panasonic-2012-compatible-3d-glasses-thread
post #1665 of 2596
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Originally Posted by Action378 View Post

Hello,
I have a general questions about running the Break-IN DVD. Does this need to be run using the HDMI input, or can I use the Component or Composite inputs instead?
Bill
better to copy the slide images onto an SD card or USB flash drive, then you don't have some external device running for 100+ hours.
post #1666 of 2596
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Originally Posted by Red-October View Post

I just picked up the TC-P55UT50 from Costco for the price of 799.99. I had been through two Vizio M3D55KDE models, both had horrible ghosting and the picture looked like a soap opera, and not to mention the picture looks like it has smooth motion turned on, but this model doesn't have smooth motion, so after doing research I choose the Panasonic. I have already order a HDMI pigtail since this tv only has two HDMI ports, also for a wireless adapter do I have to use the Panasonic or can I go with any USB adapter? I'm new to plasma what settings do you all recommend for my tv in terms of picture. I like sports and movies. My tv has a build date of November 2012.

We bought ours at Costco also and it is awesome. Supposedly the Netgear N600 WNDA3100 will work as long as it has a serial number that starts with 2DF. The Netgear compatibility chart seems to list older Panny models.

http://www.netgear.com/landing/en-us/wifitv.aspx

Have not personally tried it.
Edited by Andy234 - 1/3/13 at 2:38pm
post #1667 of 2596
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

What "mounting screws" are you talking about? If you're talking about wall mounting screws, then they are never included with the TV - all you get is four plastic covers snapped into the wall mounting holes on the rear panel. Wall mounting screws are always supplied with whatever wall mount you buy.
The only screws that come with the TV are the ones for assembling the stand and attaching it to the TV.
Yes, I'm referring to the stand screws. Sorry for the confusion. Anyways, the service menu says the unit has 35 hours of runtime, so that's further evidence it's an open box unit.

I've actually run the TV for the last few hours testing out some material, taking some measurements and checking for issues.

The unit has the standard vertical band on the right hand side of the screen (many owners seem to report this band). There is no other vertical banding. Also, the buzzing is no more or less than my TC-P58S1, which I consider minor-moderate from my 11' sitting distance. 95% of the time it's inaudible. Only during bright scenes in a quiet room is it noticeably audible.

Measurements are good right out of the box. In Cinema Mode I'm getting a near perfect 2.3 (2.27 average) gamma from 10% to 90%. This is right where I like it in a dark room with bias lighting. Grayscale is good overall with less than 10 dE from 40% to 80%. Measurements were taken in HCFR with an i1 LT and large APL HCFR test patterns on the AVS 709 calibration disc. I have no contrast measurement; 0% IRE is too low for my meter to take a reading.

Some glaring problems, however: this TV has some serious processing issues and bugs and I'm surprised people haven't talked about them more (maybe they're discussed more in the GT/VT threads, I've only looked at the UT/ST threads). The scaling is pretty bad. Without getting into test pattern discussion, 720p material is noticeably better on my TC-P58S1, an almost four year old unit. As far as I can tell, there is also undefeatable edge enhancement where I don't notice it on the S1 if it is there. Desktop performance from my laptop is better on the S1. The UT is also very noisy in dark areas, especially in near-blacks. I'm getting a lot more sparkles in dark material compared to the S1. I can actually see this effect in certain material from my 11' sitting position.
Edited by Yukon Trooper - 1/3/13 at 4:13pm
post #1668 of 2596
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Originally Posted by BriscoCountyJr View Post

better to copy the slide images onto an SD card or USB flash drive, then you don't have some external device running for 100+ hours.

I'm assuming (since I don't have the TV as of yet). That if I put the 20 slide images onto a USB drive, there is a way to adjust the length of time each slide plays for and to made the slides run continuously? If so, what is a good time frame for each slide (5 seconds, 10 seconds)??

Thanks iadvancece,
Bill
post #1669 of 2596
sweet, just got back from best buy and got mine ordered,.. but it wasn't in stock at the store so they have to get it delivered to them which is cool since i don't have the other stuff to use with yet (bluray player/dvi->hdmi cable, etc).

saw a bunch of tvs in store and was very happy with the ut50... it was sitting on top of a tv twice it's price and looked almost as good to me. on the top was the ut50 which was 700 and below it was something else for 1400.

i don't know if that's how led's look naturally but i wasn't feeling the insanely bright/popping image of the led... it was like staring into a bright shining light.
i can't imagine one of those bright led's sitting in my dark room.

really, almost all the tvs look good though, i don't think you can get wrong in this day and age.. i would've been happy with most of them.

think i made the right choice.
soon to be proud owner of the ut50. biggrin.gif

also ordered those panasonic glasses, do you guys think for my firs 3-d experience prometheus is a good choice? it's the only 3-d i own atm.... but i could possibly purchase something else for my first time... i heard titanic was probably the best 3-d experience.
post #1670 of 2596
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Originally Posted by watcher6 View Post

sweet, just got back from best buy and got mine ordered,.. but it wasn't in stock at the store so they have to get it delivered to them which is cool since i don't have the other stuff to use with yet (bluray player/dvi->hdmi cable, etc).
saw a bunch of tvs in store and was very happy with the ut50... it was sitting on top of a tv twice it's price and looked almost as good to me. on the top was the ut50 which was 700 and below it was something else for 1400.
i don't know if that's how led's look naturally but i wasn't feeling the insanely bright/popping image of the led... it was like staring into a bright shining light.
i can't imagine one of those bright led's sitting in my dark room.
really, almost all the tvs look good though, i don't think you can get wrong in this day and age.. i would've been happy with most of them.
think i made the right choice.
soon to be proud owner of the ut50. biggrin.gif
also ordered those panasonic glasses, do you guys think for my firs 3-d experience prometheus is a good choice? it's the only 3-d i own atm.... but i could possibly purchase something else for my first time... i heard titanic was probably the best 3-d experience.

I think Prometheus is a good choice. I really liked it at IMAX 3D and watched some of it on the UT50. I think it's a good candidate.
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Is there any real need to do the slides? I read somewhere they don't help much at all.
post #1672 of 2596
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

I think Prometheus is a good choice. I really liked it at IMAX 3D and watched some of it on the UT50. I think it's a good candidate.

cool, cool.
then i'm all set... now just time to wait for everything.
post #1673 of 2596
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Originally Posted by StrikerZ View Post

Is there any real need to do the slides? I read somewhere they don't help much at all.

i just to plan to do all fullscreen content with no logos or any huds or anything static.. not going to do anything else.
but i'm gonna try and switch it up from movies/tv (tv bluray/dvd) of different types just for a variety, a month of heavy use then i'll be a little less cautious.

don't see why i would need to use slides or anything.
post #1674 of 2596
I am going to reference this post from now on since these questions keep coming up repeatedly with no one looking in past posts to find the answers.


Running Slides:
The only reason to run slides is to let the phosphors settle in to calibrate as soon as possible (100 hours, some prefer 150-200 hours) after taking the TV out of the box. You can also run slides to help break in the phosphors to possibly help avoid the early onset of image retention, but it's not necessary if you just watch mixed content.


Image Retention and Burn-In
If you're concerned about image retention then you're probably already mindful about keeping static images, watermarks, or HUDs on the screen for long periods of time. Black bars of letterboxed content do not cause image retention because black is the phosphors / pixels turned off. Many owners and new owners who are concerned about image retention don't need to worry too much. Simply turn off the TV if you have video on pause (leaving your BD,HTPC, Game Console on) for an extended period of time if there's no screen saver available. Also, you can press play for video content until the camera angle changes and you have a fresh new image on the TV and then pause it again. If you have a PC connected to your TV you can set the screen saver to run after a short time, like 1 minute, and set it so a picture slideshow so you have fresh images on the display. If you use Windows 7 (I don't know if Win8 or Vista has this option) you can set the wallpaper to change after a minute, too. Set your taskbar to auto-hide and you barely have anything static on the TV when programs are minimized. I also keep no icons on my UT50's desktop. The pin and searchable start menu make opening programs and files quick and easy without needing desktop icons.


PathofNeo's settings
PathofNeo's settings are currently taken down until he has time to calibrate his TV and re-post his best settings.
post #1675 of 2596
I'm new to the UT50 thread as I just purchased one of these sets. So, my apologies if this has already been discussed here, but we started watching a netflix program last evening through viera cast and wanted to finish this morning, but now, when I try Viera Connect, I get a "Connection to the server failed, error 006" message. I tried resetting my router thinking that would help, but I still get the same message. It seems odd where everything worked well from for the last few days, from the time I initially set it up. I'm using a netgear NCE2001 wireless adapter and not the Panasonic one, but like I say, it worked initially so I don't believe this is the issue.

I will say that in comparison to my Kuro Pro151, this tv is as close as I've seen with phenomenal black levels. Stunning tv for the price and an incredibly cheap price it was for a 50". Now, if I can only figure out what the issue is with the Viera Cast.
post #1676 of 2596
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Originally Posted by bluemark81 View Post

I'm new to the UT50 thread as I just purchased one of these sets. So, my apologies if this has already been discussed here, but we started watching a netflix program last evening through viera cast and wanted to finish this morning, but now, when I try Viera Connect, I get a "Connection to the server failed, error 006" message. I tried resetting my router thinking that would help, but I still get the same message. It seems odd where everything worked well from for the last few days, from the time I initially set it up. I'm using a netgear NCE2001 wireless adapter and not the Panasonic one, but like I say, it worked initially so I don't believe this is the issue.
I will say that in comparison to my Kuro Pro151, this tv is as close as I've seen with phenomenal black levels. Stunning tv for the price and an incredibly cheap price it was for a 50". Now, if I can only figure out what the issue is with the Viera Cast.

Did you wait long enough for the TV to get an IP address from the router? It has to reconnect every time you turn it on and I can take a moment.
post #1677 of 2596
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Action378 View Post

I'm assuming (since I don't have the TV as of yet). That if I put the 20 slide images onto a USB drive, there is a way to adjust the length of time each slide plays for and to made the slides run continuously? If so, what is a good time frame for each slide (5 seconds, 10 seconds)??

Yes, there are various Slideshow Settings you can change, and one of them selects the duration that each image is displayed on the screen. D-Nice's panel aging procedure uses the "Slow" setting (which i think is 30 seconds). These settings are detailed in the E-Help manual that i linked in post #1 of this thread - just search the PDF for "Photo Slideshow Settings" for a direct hit, or "Slideshow Settings" for other info.
post #1678 of 2596
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by StrikerZ View Post

Is there any real need to do the slides? I read somewhere they don't help much at all.

Well that depends on what you mean by "don't help much at all". They don't help reduce the chance of the panel getting IR or Burn In, but they do help in aging the panel quickly and evenly to get the phosphors all settled in so that you can do your final picture settings adjustments or have it calibrated.
post #1679 of 2596
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Did you wait long enough for the TV to get an IP address from the router? It has to reconnect every time you turn it on and I can take a moment.

Yes, this morning I left it on for a couple of hours trying Viera Connect intermittently with no connection made. As a test, I tried running a cable directly from my router to the back of the tv and that solved the problem. Therefore, I just finished installing inwall wiring to accommodate the tv's location rather than try to figure out why the wireless adapter all of a sudden decided to cause issues.
post #1680 of 2596
My 50" UT50 finally arrived a few days ago at my local Walmart store after a delay with Site to Store. The increased contrast was immediately apparent and the deeper blacks are stunning. The screen uniformity on mine seems to be quite good. I do see very(and I mean very) faint horizontal and vertical lines on full gray screens but with normal content these are not seen at all. No dark shadow-like lines on the right or left side. The buzzing is no louder than my 2009 U1 which is great.


The only issue I have found is a dead red subpixel about two inches in from the bottom and right side. Should I return it? It isn't noticeable at all unless you are viewing a pure white or red screen and even then it is so far near the bezel that the eye doesn't really look there anyway. I would hate to get one with bad DSE or even more dead pixels.
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