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post #1891 of 2458
1/23/13 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by dmaul1114 View Post

I'd also started to get annoyed by some IR and having to keep the blinds down during the day, and most lights off at night for it to be watchable.

Same for me. I'm returning my UT50 and getting an ST50. If the glare is similar to my previous Panasonic plasma, I'll be happy.
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post #1892 of 2458
1/23/13 at 12:20pm
My apologies if this has already been asked, I could not find it. Given the round bezel, how have people mounted a Wii sensor bar on his TV.

Thank you.
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post #1893 of 2458
1/23/13 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by Chris6145 View Post

My apologies if this has already been asked, I could not find it. Given the round bezel, how have people mounted a Wii sensor bar on his TV.

Thank you.

The sensor works fine below the tv as well (there's a setting in theWii menu for whether you have it above or below the tv).

So you can put it on the tv stand or center speaker in front of the TV, on the top shelf of your stand--whatever works in your set up.
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post #1894 of 2458
1/23/13 at 12:43pm
Thanks, but for several reasons I need to mount it on top of the TV.
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post #1895 of 2458
1/23/13 at 12:45pm
In that case best you can probably do is get some of those 3m sticky things and cut to size to hold it in place on the round surface. It won't sit there on it's own, but probably would if stuck in place. Maybe they make some kind of bracket for flat screens like they have for the Xbox Kinect sensor, but I kind of doubt it since it's so small compared to the Kinect and would sit fine on top of most flat screens.
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post #1896 of 2458
1/23/13 at 12:51pm
Thank you. I did find a post where someone had used the 3m tape to build up a shelf behind the plastic bezel and then mounted the sensor bar to that. I guess I will try that. I was just hoping for a solution that was a little more elegant.
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post #1897 of 2458
1/23/13 at 4:23pm
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The first time you sync the glasses, you must hold the "On" button all the way to the right and hold it there for about 30 seconds, then release it. This gives the glasses enough time to pick up the signal. Once I did this the glasses had no problem syncing up. Of course the manual never mention this. It said to just flip the "On" button on and release it, but this doesn't allow the glasses enough time to read the signal. The 3D on this set was fantastic! "Finding Nemo" was really a visual treat. I never been really big on 3D, and I bought this plasma because of it's great 2D picture, but I think. with the right kind of 3D movie, watching a movie in 3D does add to the enjoyment. I also have "The Avengers" in 3D and I can't wait to try that one out!

Take care,
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Glad to hear it! We just watched IMAX Space Station and Hubble in 3D this week and they were really good. Space Station 3D had some pretty bad cross talk for things coming out of the screen, but it may have been PowerDVD rather than the movie. We watched Hubble 3D using WinDVD and crosstalk was much better. I really enjoyed the visuals of Hubble, especially in 3D. Best Buy has them on sale this week and if you have some DVDs you don't want anymore you can "Trade Up" and the IMAX 3Ds are only $15 each. They even price matched Amazon.com for Deep Sea 3D because that wasn't on sale for some reason. But for 3D I really recommend Hubble. I haven't put on Finding Nemo yet but it's on the shelf waiting. Now that my SO has the Samsung 3D glasses she enjoys watching 3D more. With the Panasonic glasses she had to hold them up in order to see properly through them - she has prescription glasses.
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post #1898 of 2458
1/23/13 at 6:01pm
I have found that the bridge section between the two lenses bothers me more with the Panasonic glasses. It's very distracting. With the Samsung's I barely see it.
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post #1899 of 2458
1/24/13 at 1:56am
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Edited by Scott Mehl - 1/24/13 at 2:05am
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post #1900 of 2458
1/24/13 at 2:02am
Hello, I recently bought a new tv the 50UT50 for my living room replacing an older 2008 basic panasonic 42" plasma. After one week I was really impressed with the upgraded quality of the tv. I recently bought the Samsung 4100 3D glasses of amazon for $18 free shipping. The 3d works well but after 15-20 minutes of 3d use the 3d feature turns off and resets and I have to push the 3d button on the remote to activate it again. Is this normal or is there any know fix for this or is this just a lemon tv. I got the tv on sale at best buy for $699 and wonder how the return or exchange policy is as i threw away the box since I thought I would be keeping the tv.
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post #1901 of 2458
1/24/13 at 3:26am
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Originally Posted by Scott Mehl View Post

Hello, I recently bought a new tv the 50UT50 for my living room replacing an older 2008 basic panasonic 42" plasma. After one week I was really impressed with the upgraded quality of the tv. I recently bought the Samsung 4100 3D glasses of amazon for $18 free shipping. The 3d works well but after 15-20 minutes of 3d use the 3d feature turns off and resets and I have to push the 3d button on the remote to activate it again. Is this normal or is there any know fix for this or is this just a lemon tv. I got the tv on sale at best buy for $699 and wonder how the return or exchange policy is as i threw away the box since I thought I would be keeping the tv.
Go into the menu and find the 3d section and change it to auto 2
Also make sure you update the firmware on the tv, connect it to the internet:
menu
network
firmware upgrade.
Not in front of the TV, I will revise this tonight when I'm in front of the tv

Is it a file or 3d disk.
You may need to go manual 3d but so far auto 2 works great.
Name of the movie and time into it, I could check mine for you.


Edit
Menu
Setup
Auto detect 3D
Auto 2 or off and manual select
Edited by dfran1 - 1/24/13 at 4:44pm
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post #1902 of 2458
1/24/13 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by SniperZoz View Post

Can someone who has the 50UT50 give me the following measurement?

From one of the lower mount points (the vesa holes where you bolt the thing), to the bottom edge of the tv - not the stand, just the TV.

Would really appreciate this!

Thanks!

The Specs are hidden in the manual but if one looks closely you will see the holes for wall mounting show 400 wide by 300 high. This is on page 24 of the manual.

It took a lot of hunting to find this info. Panasonic list the mount from Pannie as the TY-WK4P1RW (for 42”/50”) Don't be fooled. If this number is googled a lot of cheap knock off's will pop up. This T V weighs 77 lbs and so must be securely mounted to the wood studs. You will need a good stud finder. Also some mounts will only attach to standard studs that are 16 inches on center. A stud is 1.5 inches wide so you must hit the center of the stud for secure mounting.

The distance from bottom hole to bottom of set is 8.2 inches
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post #1903 of 2458
1/24/13 at 9:15pm
Hello everyone!
Im an owner of Panasonic 42UT50 recently. Everything works fine for what I invested in it , but is there any way to open/play .srt subtitles in the stock player??
Do i have to hard-code the sub files to mp4/mkv files to get subtitles?
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post #1904 of 2458
1/25/13 at 8:48am
Could someone perhaps help me understand HDMI Audio Return Channel (ARC)? I'm a bit fuzzy on how it works, particularly with this TV. I'll be connected to a Harman Kardon AVR 1700 receiver.
  • Does only the second HDMI port that says (ARC) support this feature?
  • I understand that this feature allows me to return the sound from the apps and TV tuner to my receiver. Will it also return the audio from a component or composite video source with RCA audio plugged into the TV, or will I need an optical cable for that?
  • Will the TV speakers automatically turn off when ARC is active, or do I need to disable the TV speakers?
  • I have to select ARC as an input on my receiver, right?
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post #1905 of 2458
1/25/13 at 10:08am
Our family is upgrading from an old 27" Toshiba CRT to a new HDTV. We had originally looked at LCD/LED TVs but after reading reviews on plasma TVs and seeing the TC-P50UT50 in a store we were considering getting it. We are a little concerned about IR given everything that we have read thus far, but are also concerned about viewing angle problems with the LCD/LED TVs (we have a sectional couch in our family room and will be sitting all around to see the TV).

Our main concern is that we will have to diligently follow some break-in procedures and greatly restrict our normal TV viewing for over 250 hours just to prevent IR. We don't want to constantly have to babysit the TV, run IR removal / prevention tools, or be worried about our kids watching Cartoon Network or playing Wii games. We would simply like to be able to use our TV like normal and enjoy the wonderful picture without constantly worrying that something that we watch will affect the picture quality or cause IR.

We mainly watch some cable TV news programs, some shows on USA and the History Channel, and some cartoons on Cartoon Network and Nick Jr. We have a couple of Blue Ray discs but mostly a large collection of regular widescreen DVDs. We do plan on getting a Blue Ray player. 3D viewing and Smart TV options are not really important to us. Other than a Wii and a new Toshiba DVD/VCR recorder combo, we use an older Philips FW-P88 mini HiFi system for surround sound. Given our setup and viewing habits, do you think that the Panasonic TC-P50UT50 would be good for us, or should we look for an LCD/LED TV? Thanks for any recommendations that you might have.
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1/25/13 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by jlbtjb View Post

Our family is upgrading from an old 27" Toshiba CRT to a new HDTV. We had originally looked at LCD/LED TVs but after reading reviews on plasma TVs and seeing the TC-P50UT50 in a store we were considering getting it. We are a little concerned about IR given everything that we have read thus far, but are also concerned about viewing angle problems with the LCD/LED TVs (we have a sectional couch in our family room and will be sitting all around to see the TV).

Our main concern is that we will have to diligently follow some break-in procedures and greatly restrict our normal TV viewing for over 250 hours just to prevent IR. We don't want to constantly have to babysit the TV, run IR removal / prevention tools, or be worried about our kids watching Cartoon Network or playing Wii games. We would simply like to be able to use our TV like normal and enjoy the wonderful picture without constantly worrying that something that we watch will affect the picture quality or cause IR.

We mainly watch some cable TV news programs, some shows on USA and the History Channel, and some cartoons on Cartoon Network and Nick Jr. We have a couple of Blue Ray discs but mostly a large collection of regular widescreen DVDs. We do plan on getting a Blue Ray player. 3D viewing and Smart TV options are not really important to us. Other than a Wii and a new Toshiba DVD/VCR recorder combo, we use an older Philips FW-P88 mini HiFi system for surround sound. Given our setup and viewing habits, do you think that the Panasonic TC-P50UT50 would be good for us, or should we look for an LCD/LED TV? Thanks for any recommendations that you might have.

I really am no expert on plasma, now in saying that, I
ran slides for 1/3 of the first 200 hours and also did the below
play ps3 every night (mainly hard core so no huds)
Watch movies every night
watch 3D movies
run the wipe just to make sure I see no IR (just about every night), No I find nothing anyway except minor IR that would have gone away just using the TV as normal.
viewing angles are great (practically any angle)
one of the best buy's for your money at the moment
buy it at Bestbuy so if you dont like it you have the option to return it, thats one reason why I did.

I know 2 others that have plasmas
one is a sports fanatic, and I ran the IR scrolling bar on that tv thinking for sure there would be some or burn, and I found nothing, and they just use it like a TV
the 2nd also has no problems and he plays some games from time to time for hours yet and he never seen IR

neither of these run the IR scrolling bar or slides, they are not as paranoid as I am, I just do it just to make sure, I have read 1000 hours of break in then your golden, that is what I'm shooting at, but now this is just on paranoia, the other 2 I know like I said never even cared about IR or know until I told them and they still don't care and both don't have any.

now I would not use much 3D games until you hit lots of hours on the set (and then still keep it at minimum), that does cause IR due to extreme contrast and brightness levels of the huds.

I know others will chime in on there take, but I think it is just paranoia and nothing more. (but please don't hold me to any of this, this is just my findings and thoughts)
Edited by dfran1 - 1/25/13 at 4:28pm
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post #1907 of 2458
1/25/13 at 6:53pm
I've gotten a decent amount of IR on my 55UT50 I've had for a couple of weeks (and am swapping out for an LED--partly from IR, but mostly from buzz). I ran the break in slides for 100 hours and avoided static images and black bars while using it during that time).

After starting to use it normally I got some IR from the ESPN logo, CNN logos and the HUDs in Borderlands 2. It was visible when watching some basketball (could see it on the court) and very visible on the scrolling bars or a white slide.

That said, it was temporary and the worst went away after 3-4 hours of watching other stuff. But it did worry me as I'd still be limiting things and never had more than 2-3 hours of ESPN, games etc. With my old TV I'd often leave it on ESPN all day when working at home, have some 6-8 hour gaming sessions every now and again etc. I want a TV I can do all that with no worries about IR at all, so plasma just isn't for me.

But the buzz was the main thing. Drove me nuts and the tech couldn't fix it and said it was normal. I may just be sensitive to it as I tried a Vizio plasma years ago and had the same experience. Buzzing noises bug the crap out of me and I tend to hear them when other people don't. My girlfriend could clearly hear this one on a white slide, but didn't notice it on bright scenes when watching things like I clearly did.

In any case, every type of TV has it's pros and cons. Plasmas just aren't for me as I'm not a videophile so PQ isn't nearly as important to me as peace of mind of not having to worry about how I use the TV to avoid IR or learning to tune out buzzing I seem to hear on every plasma.
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post #1908 of 2458
1/26/13 at 4:44am
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Originally Posted by dmaul1114 View Post

I've gotten a decent amount of IR on my 55UT50 I've had for a couple of weeks (and am swapping out for an LED--partly from IR, but mostly from buzz). I ran the break in slides for 100 hours and avoided static images and black bars while using it during that time).

Black bars do not cause image retention because the pixels are not being used. They just end up being slightly younger than non-letterboxed pixels.
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1/26/13 at 4:58am
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Black bars do not cause image retention because the pixels are not being used. They just end up being slightly younger than non-letterboxed pixels.

Yep. But I've seen picks out there where the left and right (from 4:3) or top and bottom (from 2:35:1) look lighter than the rest of the screen from people watching a ton of letterboxed content and those areas aging differently than the rest of the panel.

I doubt I'd have issues with it as I mostly watch full screen content, so it was more game huds and ESPN and other logos/tickers I worry about as that's what gets the most hours on my TV. But it could be an issue for people who watch a ton of movies and little TV or a ton of 4:3 content.

Really it just comes down to plasmas needing mixed content to avoid IR or uneven aging. If one's uses lean heavily toward long gaming sessions, hours on end of ESPN, almost all letter boxed movies etc. then they can run into issues. The average person who watches a good mix of stuff will never have problems. And even many who don't may never have problems if they aren't anal and don't go looking for IR on the screen wipe, white slides etc. Though I was getting it bad enough to notice ESPN logos and game huds when watching basketball, the winter x-games etc. as they stood out on the court and the snow respectively. So plasma just isn't for me between that and the buzz and having to shell out more than I"m willing to get a model that isn't reflective like the UT50. Great picture for those who aren't annoyed by such things though.

I'll drop some impressions of the Panny LED in comparison to the UT50 after getting it on Monday.
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1/26/13 at 5:01am
I hope you find one you like. smile.gif
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post #1911 of 2458
1/26/13 at 5:13am
Me too. I'm not a videophile type though so I'm sure I'll be fine with the LED. Hell, I was ok with the picture on the 50" 720p Sony 3LCD TV I'm upgrading from--just didn't see the sense in paying for a bulb again vs. upgrading for 1080p and 3D. Only thing that every bugged me on it was screen door effect on bright scenes. But I got used to it after a while.

The Panny TC-L55ET5 is the one I"m getting on Monday. It was on sale for $959.99 last week on Amazon, but the price jumped back up the other day to $1,259.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-L55ET5-55-Inch-LED-LCD-Polarized/dp/B00752R9SM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358947540&sr=8-1&keywords=panasonic+55%22+led+four+pairs+3d+glasses
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1/26/13 at 9:43am
Thanks for the advice dfran1 and dmaul1114. I am still unsure what type of TV we should get. We really like the look of the plasma but like the fact that LCD/LED TVs seem to be more forgiving about the content that is displayed especially since my children use the TV more than my husband and I do. I am trying to research LCD/LED TVs now to find one that has good viewing angles since that is my biggest concern with this type of TV. It seems like some people with the TC-P50UT50 have no problems with IR and others do, so it appears that there is a lot of variation in the screens from unit to unit. I don't think my husband will be willing to keep setting it up and taking it back until we get one with no IR problems. We are still trying to decide what to do and appreciate your advice.
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1/26/13 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by jlbtjb View Post

Thanks for the advice dfran1 and dmaul1114. I am still unsure what type of TV we should get. We really like the look of the plasma but like the fact that LCD/LED TVs seem to be more forgiving about the content that is displayed especially since my children use the TV more than my husband and I do. I am trying to research LCD/LED TVs now to find one that has good viewing angles since that is my biggest concern with this type of TV. It seems like some people with the TC-P50UT50 have no problems with IR and others do, so it appears that there is a lot of variation in the screens from unit to unit. I don't think my husband will be willing to keep setting it up and taking it back until we get one with no IR problems. We are still trying to decide what to do and appreciate your advice.

Poor viewing angle is an inherent weakness of LCD/LED unfortunately. But is sounds as if you might have some issues with IR if you are not in direct control of the content that is being displayed. If your children tend to pause content or watch the same channel all day you might have issue with IR from channel logos etc. If it were me I would go for the LCD/LED , IPS panels mitigate the viewing angle issue to some extent.
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1/26/13 at 2:26pm
I don't notice any buzz. The manual sez to put the little ferrite gizmo's that came in the remote package around the HDMI cable next to the TV input. I have had the TV only a couple of days and had it hooked up to D* only but have ordered a 75' Eathernet cable from Monoprice. The set has had no issues except for a dark screen inn standard mode so I cranked up the contrast to 60. I probably should buy a calibration cd.
Since I have a Blu Ray and a PS3 hooked up to my 60 inch TV in another room, I will put one of those on the Panny and also need to buy some 3 D glasses. For the time being the TV is on it's stand but I need to find a 400 X 300 TV wall mount and also some window curtains to eliminate reflection.

So far I am very pleased with the Panny
Edited by generallee - 1/26/13 at 2:36pm
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1/26/13 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Mehl View Post

Hello, I recently bought a new tv the 50UT50 for my living room replacing an older 2008 basic panasonic 42" plasma. After one week I was really impressed with the upgraded quality of the tv. I recently bought the Samsung 4100 3D glasses of amazon for $18 free shipping. The 3d works well but after 15-20 minutes of 3d use the 3d feature turns off and resets and I have to push the 3d button on the remote to activate it again. Is this normal or is there any know fix for this or is this just a lemon tv. I got the tv on sale at best buy for $699 and wonder how the return or exchange policy is as i threw away the box since I thought I would be keeping the tv.
I note that Monoproce sells sammy bluetooth glasses so I checked out their tech support and was told the Samsung glasses won't work with the Panasonic Viera Blue tooth The specs on the Panny is for 2.40GHz2-2.480Ghz The Panasonic list TY-ER3D4MU for adults and the S for kids.

I suggest U return the sammy glasses to Brazil
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post #1916 of 2458
1/26/13 at 7:40pm
Hello all, new to this site and I am a proud owner of a 55" UT50. I love this TV except for one thing... When a movie has a dark scene, it is very difficult to see anything that is black. Example: Brave look amazing when the characters are in we'll lit scenes, but in dark rooms or at night you can hardly see anything. Any suggestions for settings to fix this?

Thanks!
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1/26/13 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by generallee View Post

I note that Monoproce sells sammy bluetooth glasses so I checked out their tech support and was told the Samsung glasses won't work with the Panasonic Viera Blue tooth The specs on the Panny is for 2.40GHz2-2.480Ghz The Panasonic list TY-ER3D4MU for adults and the S for kids.

I suggest U return the sammy glasses to Brazil

Regardless of what tech support says, the UT50 does send a signal to the Samsung 4100 3D glasses and they recceive it. I own a pair as do many others and they work fine.
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post #1918 of 2458
1/26/13 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by thobie2664 View Post

Hello all, new to this site and I am a proud owner of a 55" UT50. I love this TV except for one thing... When a movie has a dark scene, it is very difficult to see anything that is black. Example: Brave look amazing when the characters are in we'll lit scenes, but in dark rooms or at night you can hardly see anything. Any suggestions for settings to fix this?

Thanks!

Try turning up brightness a tick or two, also check your contrast. 80-85 should be good. Also, don't use standard mode. The best mode for accurate picture reproduction is cinema.
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post #1919 of 2458
1/26/13 at 7:53pm
I have had the TC-P50UT50 now for two weeks and the picture just seems to get better everyday. I'm watching GI Joe and the picture is stunning! Thank you Panasonic!
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post #1920 of 2458
1/26/13 at 7:54pm
Perfect! Any other settings in cinema mode you would suggest?
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