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post #2041 of 2459
THANKS cf, downloaded the app for my iPhone; like the KEYBOARD cool.gif
post #2042 of 2459
Hello everyone
I bought a Panasonic TH-P50UT30R (made for MEA Region)
problem is i search a lot on the internet but couldn't find a way to enable the subtitles in a HD movies on the usb using the internal media player of the TV.
i don't have this option in the menu, i only see the button on the remote control but nothing change when i give the command.
i even rename the .srt wit the same name and even i start muxing the movies but still nothing show up.
the only way is inserting a hard subtitle to the movie (bitmap) by convert using "wondershare vide converter" or "format factory" but it takes too long.
i heard that there is a way to unlock this feature using multi key on the remote?
does anyone have a solutionj for me or know the instruction of unlocking it?
thanks
post #2043 of 2459
OK, So after lurking on this thread for over a month I am coming out of the closet. Bought this TV last Friday at Costco. Brought it home, plugged in settings found on the other thread and I love it. Wanted to hold out for a 60" but the price at Costco came down and I could not justify a $400 difference in price. Previous TV was Hitachi 50V500 RPT that was pretty much state of the art in 2003. Could have bought three of the 55UT50 for what I paid for that one back then. Plasmas were even more and I was worried about burn in. Boy, have things changed!

My eventual viewing room is pretty much a cave but current setup in a north facing room presents no problem concerning glare. I just close the blinds for daytime viewing. My wife seldom takes the time to close the blinds and has no complaints. Currently running slides when not watching mixed content as I want to age the panel quicly so I can dial in the PQ with a calibration disc. Don't know how it could look much better though. There is a guy here in my smallish town who is an ISF calibrator and I hope to swap some work on his car for a full on calibration. Always wanted that on the Hitachi but then the color engine problem reared it's ugly head. The second engine was on it's way out (bad) when the second bulb in 9 years (not bad) blew so it went to the big home theater in the sky.

Now I'm stoked to be in the Plasma club (never knew how much I was missing those blacks) and look forward to wall mounting this puppy in the other room and finally hooking up the 7.1 rear speakers. My excellent for it's time Yamaha AVR has no HDMI so I look forward to researching a new one with the new sound codecs and internet connectivity. Thanks for all your input and information. After reading this thread and the other (settings and issues) I am satisfied with my decision and expect this TV to last until OLED is in my price range.
post #2044 of 2459
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

Yes, you want to slide it on to the pedestal. DO NOT lay it face down. Although it may do no damage, it is a point of controversy, especially for transport.
Correct . Set up the stand (easy) then with 2 people Lift the TV our of the box (It should be standing up anyway if you followed instructions) then slide the TV into the bracket. Once in the bracket have each person steady the TV and pick up 2 screws each and insert them through the bracket into the TV and tighten. No problem for 2....big trouble for 1:eek:
post #2045 of 2459
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Originally Posted by rrsteves View Post

OK,
Now I'm stoked to be in the Plasma club (never knew how much I was missing those blacks) and look forward to wall mounting this puppy in the other room and finally hooking up the 7.1 rear speakers. My excellent for it's time Yamaha AVR has no HDMI so I look forward to researching a new one with the new sound codecs and internet connectivity. Thanks for all your input and information. After reading this thread and the other (settings and issues) I am satisfied with my decision and expect this TV to last until OLED is in my price range.
The new Denon's are nice....but if you are short on cash you might double feed your source through HDMI to the TV and use optical cable to feed your old Yammy until $$$ become available.smile.gif
post #2046 of 2459
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Originally Posted by VarmintCong View Post

Do you guys use HDMI or component for Xbox (or PS3)? I've read that component has less lag than HDMI on the ST50, which is odd to me cause on my LCD, component had awful lag (VGA input had the best).
Check to make sure you have the latest edition of HDMI cable. A friend had a first generation cable and his problems cleared after buying a new cable. Monoprice.com has good ferrite HDMI cables for low cost
post #2047 of 2459
If anyone's been curious about the "High Heat" output of the TV, after having the TV on for about 1/2 an hour, I used a Rosewill IR thermometer and it showed the TV at 94.5 F degrees. I put the sensor right right next to the glass so it wouldn't be reading ambient temperatures reflected off the glass. I think my 19" monitor at work was about 90 F degrees after being on for several hours. So really it's not that much heat. I'll have to try it again after a 2 hour movie and see if it makes a difference.
post #2048 of 2459
good in winter, not so good in summer
post #2049 of 2459
Hey guys,

I picked up the 55UT50 at Costco last week and have really liked everything about it (especially at that $750 price point). Great picture, size, and 3D functionality. I do have an issue/ concern here that I was wondering you guys could help me with. I am not a Plasma expert (Primary TV was a DLP and I had a 42" Panasonic Plasma in the bedroom, but for casual use), but I know all about burn-in (or rather avoiding it) and the various do's and do not's of Plasma operation. I have noticed during white/ light scenes of content, some kind of lines/ spots/ marks all over my screen. They are very faint, and basically fall in on the far left/ right sides, as well as dead center, but they were there the moment I first fired the TV up (I noticed them on the first Blu-ray I watched, JOHN CARTER).

I don't see how they can be burn-In (like I said, they were there as soon as the TV came out of the box), but I don't know what they are. I've looked all over the web/ this site (they aren't green blobs, banding, etc.), and haven't really come up with an answer so I thought I would post some pics and see if you could help. The best way to describe it is shadowy.

The marks aren't TOO bad, but I know they are there so I alway see them. I have a 90 Day Return window with Costco, so if it is something I should be worried about, I'd like to know so I can return the TV and get a new one. But they could also be natural Plasma quirks, that eventually go away or are standard.

Thanks in advance!

I had to pause on ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT because it was the only material I could think of that had a white/ blank screen. You can see the "shadow" on the left/ middle/ and right of the TV.

photo.JPG 1355k .JPG file

Here is a shot from SEVEN PSYCHOPATHS. I added a little red line to give you an idea as to where some of the shadow is. It starts a little bit to the right of the red line (you will notice it if you sit back and look at the image as a whole, and not just focus on that little area.

7.jpg 1480k .jpg file
post #2050 of 2459
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Originally Posted by imcclarr View Post

Hey guys,

I picked up the 55UT50 at Costco last week and have really liked everything about it (especially at that $750 price point). Great picture, size, and 3D functionality. I do have an issue/ concern here that I was wondering you guys could help me with. I am not a Plasma expert (Primary TV was a DLP and I had a 42" Panasonic Plasma in the bedroom, but for casual use), but I know all about burn-in (or rather avoiding it) and the various do's and do not's of Plasma operation. I have noticed during white/ light scenes of content, some kind of lines/ spots/ marks all over my screen. They are very faint, and basically fall in on the far left/ right sides, as well as dead center, but they were there the moment I first fired the TV up (I noticed them on the first Blu-ray I watched, JOHN CARTER).

I don't see how they can be burn-In (like I said, they were there as soon as the TV came out of the box), but I don't know what they are. I've looked all over the web/ this site (they aren't green blobs, banding, etc.), and haven't really come up with an answer so I thought I would post some pics and see if you could help. The best way to describe it is shadowy.

The marks aren't TOO bad, but I know they are there so I alway see them. I have a 90 Day Return window with Costco, so if it is something I should be worried about, I'd like to know so I can return the TV and get a new one. But they could also be natural Plasma quirks, that eventually go away or are standard.

Thanks in advance!

I had to pause on ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT because it was the only material I could think of that had a white/ blank screen. You can see the "shadow" on the left/ middle/ and right of the TV.

photo.JPG 1355k .JPG file

Here is a shot from SEVEN PSYCHOPATHS. I added a little red line to give you an idea as to where some of the shadow is. It starts a little bit to the right of the red line (you will notice it if you sit back and look at the image as a whole, and not just focus on that little area.

7.jpg 1480k .jpg file


Is there a way for you to see the same content on another 55UT50 at Costco or another store to see if the shadow is visible? How does the 42" Panny you have look with the same content? If you can view the same issues on the 42" you have then you can attribute it to the cable provider or the source. If it is not present on another 55UT50 or your 42" Panny then I would return it to Costco and get a new one from them.
post #2051 of 2459
Does anyone could help me?I have bought TH-P42UT50Z,but it does not have timer programming function.Thanks a lot.
post #2052 of 2459
anyone know how to put on TV SPEAKERs AND HOME THEATER at the SAME time? Need them of PiP for BAND of BROTHERs and the PACIFIC cool.gif
post #2053 of 2459
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Originally Posted by generallee View Post

Correct . Set up the stand (easy) then with 2 people Lift the TV our of the box (It should be standing up anyway if you followed instructions) then slide the TV into the bracket. Once in the bracket have each person steady the TV and pick up 2 screws each and insert them through the bracket into the TV and tighten. No problem for 2....big trouble for 1:eek:

man, did i do that all wrong.

layed it down on it's face on my bed while i put the stand together on my table but had the paper enclosed over it still, then i picked it up myself and plopped it down on the stand.
it works great though so no worries aha.
post #2054 of 2459
Just picked up a a P60UT50 from best buy today. Was on clearance for $1199, was able to get for $1107. Didn't come with a floor stand but was able to get a free wall mount. So far no complaints, picture looks by far better then my DLP.
post #2055 of 2459
Hi,

I just purchased a P50UT50, and have it hooked up my laptop directly to the tv via HDMI. Every 30 seconds or so, when there's text on the screen, the text gets thicker and slightly blurry, then reverts back to a clean crisp image. It doesn't happen on any other types of text (for example, in video games from an xbox using the same HDMI cable), but its quite annoying (and worrysome). Any ideas on what might be causing this? Has anyone else noticed this, either on this tv or on others?

Thanks,

Kevin
post #2056 of 2459
ive been reading that people here cant change gamma, is that true? because in advanced menu i see gamma, there are like 4 choices. I know my ut50 is from a different region but still, they ought to be same tv. I also read about warm 2 color temp, i just got warm nothing more. Whats the point of changing the menu for each region? On another matter, where are the recommended settings and where can i get a test pattern to try them on? im a bit of a noob at this.
post #2057 of 2459
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Originally Posted by dioxholster View Post

ive been reading that people here cant change gamma, is that true? because in advanced menu i see gamma, there are like 4 choices. I know my ut50 is from a different region but still, they ought to be same tv. I also read about warm 2 color temp, i just got warm nothing more. Whats the point of changing the menu for each region? On another matter, where are the recommended settings and where can i get a test pattern to try them on? im a bit of a noob at this.

In different regions the features and settings can vary quite a bit.
The North America models have the most limited settings, no gamma setting or pro settings menu at all on the NA UT50 models - you need to get an ST50 or higher in NA for that.
post #2058 of 2459
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Originally Posted by BriscoCountyJr View Post

In different regions the features and settings can vary quite a bit.
The North America models have the most limited settings, no gamma setting or pro settings menu at all on the NA UT50 models - you need to get an ST50 or higher in NA for that.


let me try this again since my previous post went wayward .do you guys have True Cinema? Its basically a viewing mode that doesnt do color temp and leaves color management to the user. I guess it might be called Custom for others. Im trying to see if using settings suggested here is a good idea, or i have to find them for my region specific one. My question is if i choose "custom" do i have to play with the color management settings or are they okay at default?
post #2059 of 2459
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Originally Posted by dioxholster View Post

let me try this again since my previous post went wayward .do you guys have True Cinema? Its basically a viewing mode that doesnt do color temp and leaves color management to the user. I guess it might be called Custom for others. Im trying to see if using settings suggested here is a good idea, or i have to find them for my region specific one. My question is if i choose "custom" do i have to play with the color management settings or are they okay at default?


This is all user subjective!

I actually don't care for any of the service menu settings posted here (no offense to anyone, either my TV is different or I have different tastes) but do like the picture settings suggestions.

I use my own service menu settings, with most of the recommended picture settings, and I love my settings, others will recommend warm 2, I hate warm pictures, I use normal with cinema, (I find less grays with custom, standard, and vivid) but cinema for some reason produces the best grays for me.

I use sharpness at 90-100 not 0 recommended here (and I sit most of the time ~5 feet from my 55" TV) No problems for me.

So it is really subjective to everyone's own tastes, but here is the settings thread so maybe you can find someone's setting to get you started from your location on this big beautiful planet!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1412033/the-official-panasonic-ut50-settings-issues-thread/360#post_22712742

!!! Best of luck !!!
post #2060 of 2459
Hello.

I just purchased a 50UT50 at Best Buy for 699. It will be delivered tomorrow. The sales girl convinced by wife and I that it will be much better if calibrated. That it will look better and be cooler than just using factory settings. Is that true? Will it be noticeably different? The price for calibration is $250. We only paid 699 so didn't really balk at 250 and while I play with menus sometimes we more than likely won't actually try and do it ourselves. We scheduled it for a month from tomorrow which is our delivery date. She didn't mention using slide or doing anything. She just said watch how we normally would. to break it in. Which is Network TV and HBO and blue Ray. We hate anything with black bars and watch only HD now that BBCA and ION are HD for DTV. Well E isn't HD yet or at least doesn't look HD. Oh and will the Harry Potter 3D blue ray look good?

Will it be Noticeable and amazing like she said? We noticed on the wall the color looked best on Panasonic plasmas than all other TV's.
post #2061 of 2459
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Originally Posted by KenMaynard View Post

Hello.

I just purchased a 50UT50 at Best Buy for 699. It will be delivered tomorrow. The sales girl convinced by wife and I that it will be much better if calibrated. That it will look better and be cooler than just using factory settings. Is that true? Will it be noticeably different? The price for calibration is $250. We only paid 699 so didn't really balk at 250 and while I play with menus sometimes we more than likely won't actually try and do it ourselves. We scheduled it for a month from tomorrow which is our delivery date. She didn't mention using slide or doing anything. She just said watch how we normally would. to break it in. Which is Network TV and HBO and blue Ray. We hate anything with black bars and watch only HD now that BBCA and ION are HD for DTV. Well E isn't HD yet or at least doesn't look HD. Oh and will the Harry Potter 3D blue ray look good?

Will it be Noticeable and amazing like she said? We noticed on the wall the color looked best on Panasonic plasmas than all other TV's.
this tv is amazing. paying for the calibrations is up to you, FYI, if you are a reward zone member (silver) calibrations are free. Anikun07 has calibrated his set and was kind enough to share his results here. you can use his adjustments in the settings menu which look great or go deeper and also use his settings in the service menu for a fantastic picture. i have used all his settings to a tee and am simply blown away with the picture. could a professional calibrator improve on my picture? possible, but i am more than satisfied with Ani's results on my set. if you want to do your own adjustments, just right down all the original settings in case you make a mistake. here's where everything can be found if you want to try for yourself. post 601 and you might save yourself $250.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1412033/the-official-panasonic-ut50-settings-issues-thread/600
post #2062 of 2459
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Originally Posted by pistol-pete View Post

this tv is amazing. paying for the calibrations is up to you, FYI, if you are a reward zone member (silver) calibrations are free. Anikun07 has calibrated his set and was kind enough to share his results here. you can use his adjustments in the settings menu which look great or go deeper and also use his settings in the service menu for a fantastic picture. i have used all his settings to a tee and am simply blown away with the picture. could a professional calibrator improve on my picture? possible, but i am more than satisfied with Ani's results on my set. if you want to do your own adjustments, just right down all the original settings in case you make a mistake. here's where everything can be found if you want to try for yourself. post 601 and you might save yourself $250.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1412033/the-official-panasonic-ut50-settings-issues-thread/600

Thanks. If calibration will make a difference I will just pay 250 just don't like the hassle and not much of a do it yourselfer, and my wife doesn't think will get it perfect, and will get bored half way though, which is probably true. I am going from a Sharp LC42D85U and never calibrated and thought the pic was great, except our room is dark and no direct sunlight so we always had to have lights on to watch tv as the screen was bright, but it just stopped turning on and the green lights flash. Hope I notice a big difference.
post #2063 of 2459
a best buy cal is not worth 250 dollars imo
post #2064 of 2459
Where else can I get calibration?
post #2065 of 2459
Check out the. Display calibaration forum good calibrators there but will cost you more you might try the settings here before you spend the cash
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way too lazy to do it myself honestly. Hahn the sales girl who reminded me of the Asian girl from Chuck said their calibrator for BB 610 and Richmond here in Houston is good.
post #2067 of 2459
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Originally Posted by dioxholster View Post

let me try this again since my previous post went wayward .do you guys have True Cinema? Its basically a viewing mode that doesnt do color temp and leaves color management to the user. I guess it might be called Custom for others. Im trying to see if using settings suggested here is a good idea, or i have to find them for my region specific one. My question is if i choose "custom" do i have to play with the color management settings or are they okay at default?

No the North America UT50 models don't have any color management settings or True Cinema mode at all, its very bare bones compared to the Euro models.
The settings are totally different so using suggested settings from a different region model would be pretty useless.
You might try looking for settings from others with the same region model at other sites that are geared for that region.
post #2068 of 2459
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Originally Posted by KenMaynard View Post

Hello.

I just purchased a 50UT50 at Best Buy for 699. It will be delivered tomorrow. The sales girl convinced by wife and I that it will be much better if calibrated. That it will look better and be cooler than just using factory settings. Is that true? Will it be noticeably different? The price for calibration is $250. We only paid 699 so didn't really balk at 250 and while I play with menus sometimes we more than likely won't actually try and do it ourselves. We scheduled it for a month from tomorrow which is our delivery date. She didn't mention using slide or doing anything. She just said watch how we normally would. to break it in. Which is Network TV and HBO and blue Ray. We hate anything with black bars and watch only HD now that BBCA and ION are HD for DTV. Well E isn't HD yet or at least doesn't look HD. Oh and will the Harry Potter 3D blue ray look good?

Will it be Noticeable and amazing like she said? We noticed on the wall the color looked best on Panasonic plasmas than all other TV's.
Honestly, I don't think a $250 calibration is worth it for the UT, especially for a 50" at $699. I say this because the presets can already get you very good results. Gamma cannot be calibrated on the UT but Cinema mode allows for a fairly flat response in most IRE ranges. Color gamut can also not be calibrated but Cinema or Custom/Game with HDMI Content set to Photo allows for a very good color gamut. Greyscale can be calibrated in the service menu but using Warm 1, at least on my 60UT50, greyscale tracks at under 10 dE for 20%-100% IRE. This is very good performance and any changes in the service menu will be marginal. Brightness and sharpness are easily calibrated at home with test patterns and your eyes.

Cinema, Warm 1 results (click for actual sizes):




post #2069 of 2459
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Originally Posted by Yukon Trooper View Post

Honestly, I don't think a $250 calibration is worth it for the UT, especially for a 50" at $699. I say this because the presets can already get you very good results. Gamma cannot be calibrated on the UT but Cinema mode allows for a fairly flat response in most IRE ranges. Color gamut can also not be calibrated but Cinema or Custom/Game with HDMI Content set to Photo allows for a very good color gamut. Greyscale can be calibrated in the service menu but using Warm 1, at least on my 60UT50, greyscale tracks at under 10 dE for 20%-100% IRE. This is very good performance and any changes in the service menu will be marginal. Brightness and sharpness are easily calibrated at home with test patterns and your eyes.

Cinema, Warm 1 results (click for actual sizes):





Your points are well taken but a de over 5 introduces errors that are can be seen pretty easily
post #2070 of 2459
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Originally Posted by generallee View Post

The new Denon's are nice....but if you are short on cash you might double feed your source through HDMI to the TV and use optical cable to feed your old Yammy until $$$ become available.smile.gif

That's how I'm using it now. I have 3 DefTech powered speakers up front and their surrounds but I'm finally going to hook up some Klipsch bookshelf speakers I've got as rears. Denon would be my first choice, maybe another Yamaha. Onkyo looks sketchy though. TV looks better every day. Scared myself watching my first BluRay before I realized it was still on default settings-yech.
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