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post #2221 of 2596
doesnt this tv wobble the pixels or whatever? i think im about done with 100 hours but i dont understand why i had to wait when there are features in place. Silly question, whats the best cloths to use to clean the screen? There are cloths made for camera lens or cloths that made for general dusting that tend to be fluffy?
post #2222 of 2596
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Originally Posted by dioxholster View Post

doesnt this tv wobble the pixels or whatever? i think im about done with 100 hours but i dont understand why i had to wait when there are features in place. Silly question, whats the best cloths to use to clean the screen? There are cloths made for camera lens or cloths that made for general dusting that tend to be fluffy?
A good quality microfiber cloth. These are the best I have found.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050R66X8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post #2223 of 2596
Hi guys

As I said I just got the 60", but I have a quick a question: Would running this TV for 10+ hours a day hurt it in any way? I wanna break-in ASAP :P I'm mostly displaying this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4gE_Xez-fQ and watching TV shows/playing games, full screen and no channel logos/game HUDs of course.

Thanks in advance. smile.gif
post #2224 of 2596
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Originally Posted by nbnt View Post

Hi guys

As I said I just got the 60", but I have a quick a question: Would running this TV for 10+ hours a day hurt it in any way? I wanna break-in ASAP :P I'm mostly displaying this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4gE_Xez-fQ and watching TV shows/playing games, full screen and no channel logos/game HUDs of course.

Thanks in advance. smile.gif

No problem, you can even run it for 100 hours straight.
post #2225 of 2596
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

No problem, you can even run it for 100 hours straight.

+1. Completely agree. I ran my new 60" panel for two weeks straight out of the box before I powered it off.
post #2226 of 2596
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Originally Posted by iballin88 View Post

correction its not the bezel , its the trim within the bezel, whenever I switch to HD2 , if you go up close to your screen and compare each vertical trims, 1s slightly thicker then the other.. but on HD1 it trims it to be perfectly even... and like I said ive noticed this on multiple UT50s so I know for a solid fact everyones set does this.. and if theyre saying different , theyre just not looking up close enough to discover it !

If you disable the anti-image retention it will fix the problem you are having with the trim. (Ah, after reading further in this thread I see you found the answer to your problem smile.gif) I have about 1500-2000 hours on my UT50 and the line bleeding has improved considerably. Like you I have seen line bleed while watching movies and not just on the green preview screens. Now it is barely noticeable on green preview screens and not at all when watching content.

I should note that I am using anikun07's SM settings from the settings/issues thread.

LB
Edited by Laughing Buddha - 3/7/13 at 8:54pm
post #2227 of 2596
Hi! new here. Hopefully I'm not crapping up the thread with this stuff but I just had a few questions. Apologies if it's in the wrong spot.


Wall of text version:
I own the 50ut50 and absolutely love it. The motion, the colors, the picture quality, it's all great. It's my first plasma and despite the advances in plasma technology, I've tried my best to be very careful with it. I've kept my gaming sessions from going on too long, I don't watch streams on it like I used to with my LCD, and I've tried to avoid black bars on movies. I know I can generally ignore most of those precautions with new panels, but I guess I'm paranoid. However, despite my best efforts, I think I have some burn-in on it (or some image retention that's reaaaallly bad.)

When my screen is a solid color (white, green, blue, etc.), I can see the outline of a K.O. count from a game. (Dynasty Warriors specifically), as well as the timer from the sleep timer (which is only on for maybe 3 minutes at a time, it's not on every night). Upon further inspection the entire bottom right corner looks pretty splotchy, but I assume it's part of the burn-in / IR. I can also see some faint images from the one game on the bottom left corner as well. I can't see anything else from other games (I play a lot of fighters so I figured I'd see health bars and super meters and such.)

So, my two questions are:
1. Aside from the scrolling bar, is there a way to help clear out image retention? I know some IR goes away quickly (such as the super bright viera logo that stays on screen until I switch to something else). I've tried googling but I get no help or I get lead back to this forum. Hence why I signed up. I've been told that it should go away after a while, so I've just been using it like normal and staying clear of that particular game. I hope it's not burn-in.

2. In the event I have to replace the tv, what would be the successor to the UT50? I've looked at Panasonics 2013 models (ZT60, VT60, ST60, S60, X60) and I get a bit....lost. I have a warranty/repair service contract on it (don't worry, I didn't pay near what they charge for that since I work for the company I bought it from). In the event that they can't fix it, I just wanted to know what my options would be. I did reference this thread a bit when I was making my decision on purchasing the tv, so you guys seem to be the best help.

Some info that may help, maybe:
I've had the tv since August, 2012.
I use the tv for gaming, netflix (via pc with tv as secondary monitor). I don't watch much cable on it at all.
I've played the culprit game for about two hours straight. The "k.o. count" is bright white/yellow.
I've played other games for much longer (with static HUDs) and don't have the same issues.
I've run the scrollbar twice and have been trying to use the tv as normal for a week, hoping it clears out.


TOO LONG; DIDN'T READ VERSION
Burn in? Know about temp. image retention. Can see HUD stuff from game. Hasn't happened on any other game. If it has to be replaced, what replaces UT50?

Thank you in advance for any help you can give!
post #2228 of 2596
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Originally Posted by DessyKara View Post

Hi! new here. Hopefully I'm not crapping up the thread with this stuff but I just had a few questions. Apologies if it's in the wrong spot.


Wall of text version:
I own the 50ut50 and absolutely love it. The motion, the colors, the picture quality, it's all great. It's my first plasma and despite the advances in plasma technology, I've tried my best to be very careful with it. I've kept my gaming sessions from going on too long, I don't watch streams on it like I used to with my LCD, and I've tried to avoid black bars on movies. I know I can generally ignore most of those precautions with new panels, but I guess I'm paranoid. However, despite my best efforts, I think I have some burn-in on it (or some image retention that's reaaaallly bad.)

When my screen is a solid color (white, green, blue, etc.), I can see the outline of a K.O. count from a game. (Dynasty Warriors specifically), as well as the timer from the sleep timer (which is only on for maybe 3 minutes at a time, it's not on every night). Upon further inspection the entire bottom right corner looks pretty splotchy, but I assume it's part of the burn-in / IR. I can also see some faint images from the one game on the bottom left corner as well. I can't see anything else from other games (I play a lot of fighters so I figured I'd see health bars and super meters and such.)

So, my two questions are:
1. Aside from the scrolling bar, is there a way to help clear out image retention? I know some IR goes away quickly (such as the super bright viera logo that stays on screen until I switch to something else). I've tried googling but I get no help or I get lead back to this forum. Hence why I signed up. I've been told that it should go away after a while, so I've just been using it like normal and staying clear of that particular game. I hope it's not burn-in.

2. In the event I have to replace the tv, what would be the successor to the UT50? I've looked at Panasonics 2013 models (ZT60, VT60, ST60, S60, X60) and I get a bit....lost. I have a warranty/repair service contract on it (don't worry, I didn't pay near what they charge for that since I work for the company I bought it from). In the event that they can't fix it, I just wanted to know what my options would be. I did reference this thread a bit when I was making my decision on purchasing the tv, so you guys seem to be the best help.

Some info that may help, maybe:
I've had the tv since August, 2012.
I use the tv for gaming, netflix (via pc with tv as secondary monitor). I don't watch much cable on it at all.
I've played the culprit game for about two hours straight. The "k.o. count" is bright white/yellow.
I've played other games for much longer (with static HUDs) and don't have the same issues.
I've run the scrollbar twice and have been trying to use the tv as normal for a week, hoping it clears out.


TOO LONG; DIDN'T READ VERSION
Burn in? Know about temp. image retention. Can see HUD stuff from game. Hasn't happened on any other game. If it has to be replaced, what replaces UT50?

Thank you in advance for any help you can give!

1.) The scrolling bar is more or less useless, since it stops every 15 minutes. The best thing to do is run something full-screen with no static elements for long periods of time. Something with bright colors is probably preferred, an animated movie, colored slides, etc. I run either a music visualizer or a colorful, moving screen saver if I need to get rid of any IR. It's very unlikely that it's burn-in. If it's severe image retention though it could take 24-48 hours of continuous play back to see results.

2.) If you had to replace the TV I'm sure they still have UT50's available for servicing TV's.
post #2229 of 2596
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

1.) The scrolling bar is more or less useless, since it stops every 15 minutes. The best thing to do is run something full-screen with no static elements for long periods of time. Something with bright colors is probably preferred, an animated movie, colored slides, etc. I run either a music visualizer or a colorful, moving screen saver if I need to get rid of any IR. It's very unlikely that it's burn-in. If it's severe image retention though it could take 24-48 hours of continuous play back to see results.

2.) If you had to replace the TV I'm sure they still have UT50's available for servicing TV's.

Thank you for the fast reply! I'll try running something like that.

In the event that they don't have any UT50s though, think it might be the ST50 that replaces the UT50?
post #2230 of 2596
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Originally Posted by DessyKara View Post

Thank you for the fast reply! I'll try running something like that.

In the event that they don't have any UT50s though, think it might be the ST50 that replaces the UT50?

I assume in the one year of warranty coverage directly under Panasonic, they would be required to have an identical replacement TV.

If for whatever reason they didn't, you might end up with a more expensive model.
post #2231 of 2596
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

I assume in the one year of warranty coverage directly under Panasonic, they would be required to have an identical replacement TV.

If for whatever reason they didn't, you might end up with a more expensive model.

Good point. I'll try running some bright music visualizers for now. Should I set the tv on vivid?

(Wrex forever!)
post #2232 of 2596
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Originally Posted by DessyKara View Post

Good point. I'll try running some bright music visualizers for now. Should I set the tv on vivid?

(Wrex forever!)


Yeah, vivid should be just fine for that.

haha, all the way! cool.gif
post #2233 of 2596
Hi, again

Thanks for the help guys, but just 2 days after using this TV, I think it just broke. frown.giffrown.giffrown.gif

While I was playing on my X360, I heard this sound (it's like the clicking sound when you turn it on) and suddenly, the right quarter of the screen just went black, a big black vertical bar. Just like that.

I tried everything, moved it around, plugged it somewhere else, resetting it back to the original "Shipping Condition" settings, and.. nothing, nada. I went to the store I bought it from and the guy tried to show me how to change the aspect ratio mad.gif I can't believe this, lol.

But they'll be here soon (probably tomorrow) to check it out, do you guys think it's repairable?
post #2234 of 2596
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Originally Posted by nbnt View Post

Hi, again

Thanks for the help guys, but just 2 days after using this TV, I think it just broke. frown.giffrown.giffrown.gif

While I was playing on my X360, I heard this sound (it's like the clicking sound when you turn it on) and suddenly, the right quarter of the screen just went black, a big black vertical bar. Just like that.

I tried everything, moved it around, plugged it somewhere else, resetting it back to the original "Shipping Condition" settings, and.. nothing, nada. I went to the store I bought it from and the guy tried to show me how to change the aspect ratio mad.gif I can't believe this, lol.

But they'll be here soon (probably tomorrow) to check it out, do you guys think it's repairable?
Everything is repairable. It may cost more to fix than giving you a replacement though.
post #2235 of 2596
I have a 55UT50 and want to hang it on the wall.

What is the proper VESA measurement for a wall mount?

Rodge
post #2236 of 2596
I have a question regarding the built-in apps.
When streaming video like Netflix and/or Amazon Instant Video, is it possible to output a 5.1 signal using HDMI Arc or an Optical Toslink cable to an A/V Receiver?
post #2237 of 2596
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Originally Posted by rodge827 View Post

I have a 55UT50 and want to hang it on the wall.

What is the proper VESA measurement for a wall mount?

Rodge
It should say in the owners manual.
post #2238 of 2596
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Originally Posted by omegatek View Post

I have a question regarding the built-in apps.
When streaming video like Netflix and/or Amazon Instant Video, is it possible to output a 5.1 signal using HDMI Arc or an Optical Toslink cable to an A/V Receiver?
Yes to both. ARC and optical.
post #2239 of 2596
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Yes to both. ARC and optical.

Thank you.

On the A/V receiver, I assume when the signal is coming from the TV via HDMI Arc or Toslink, it is normal to display as PCM instead of displaying Dolby Digital / DTS. Would this be correct?
post #2240 of 2596
NO, normal is DD 5.1 for most ABC, CBS, NBC & FOX; DD 2.0 for PBS.
post #2241 of 2596
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

NO, normal is DD 5.1 for most ABC, CBS, NBC & FOX; DD 2.0 for PBS.
+1
post #2242 of 2596
I don't know that the TV supports multi-channel from Amazon I.V. I know the Panasonic BDPs don't and I don't know why their TVs would be any different. But I can say that when I rented "Here Comes the Boom" that I had audio going to my rear channels, but I didn't think to check what my AVR said or if I had PL II or Neo 6 enabled (which I usually don't), I usually keep my AVR on the straight setting.
post #2243 of 2596
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post

I don't know that the TV supports multi-channel from Amazon I.V. I know the Panasonic BDPs don't and I don't know why their TVs would be any different. But I can say that when I rented "Here Comes the Boom" that I had audio going to my rear channels, but I didn't think to check what my AVR said or if I had PL II or Neo 6 enabled (which I usually don't), I usually keep my AVR on the straight setting.
There has been some question about the Viera Amazon app. Some say it is PCM but cant say whether it is multichannel or not. I dont have a Prime membership to check it out. Something of a mystery there. But as far as I know everything else supports DD 5.1. Netflix does for sure.
post #2244 of 2596
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Originally Posted by Laughing Buddha View Post

If you disable the anti-image retention it will fix the problem you are having with the trim. (Ah, after reading further in this thread I see you found the answer to your problem smile.gif) I have about 1500-2000 hours on my UT50 and the line bleeding has improved considerably. Like you I have seen line bleed while watching movies and not just on the green preview screens. Now it is barely noticeable on green preview screens and not at all when watching content.

I should note that I am using anikun07's SM settings from the settings/issues thread.

LB
Thanks for taking the time either way brother! much appreciated, one thing sorta bugging me is people are claiming that there black bars are supposedly fading completely in a dark room, and I can still notice mine when im in the dark.. mind you my TV is kinda on a slant near a white wall.. but I cant say my letterbox bars fade completely Im hoping my blacks are as good as everyone elses ... I cant see mine being different though...Just wondering if on light scenes you guys notice your black bars still.. like mine dont completely blend in with the bezel or the darkness of the room.. sometimes I guess they can.. but I read pathofneos review from years ago and im just hoping mine is doing what its supposed to do! any feed back much appreciated guys!!
post #2245 of 2596
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Originally Posted by iballin88 View Post

Thanks for taking the time either way brother! much appreciated, one thing sorta bugging me is people are claiming that there black bars are supposedly fading completely in a dark room, and I can still notice mine when im in the dark.. mind you my TV is kinda on a slant near a white wall.. but I cant say my letterbox bars fade completely Im hoping my blacks are as good as everyone elses ... I cant see mine being different though...Just wondering if on light scenes you guys notice your black bars still.. like mine dont completely blend in with the bezel or the darkness of the room.. sometimes I guess they can.. but I read pathofneos review from years ago and im just hoping mine is doing what its supposed to do! any feed back much appreciated guys!!

In a completely dark room, they aren't going to blend in to the bezel, the blacks are great, but not even the VT50 gets that close.
post #2246 of 2596
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

In a completely dark room, they aren't going to blend in to the bezel, the blacks are great, but not even the VT50 gets that close.
Thanks a bunch dude
post #2247 of 2596
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

NO, normal is DD 5.1 for most ABC, CBS, NBC & FOX; DD 2.0 for PBS.

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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

+1

Thanks.

Yeah for OTA HD like ABC, CBS, etc... I get DD 5.1 and my receiver shows it by lighting up the corresponding logo.
However, I was more or less wondering if when watching Netflix / Amazon IV, if I'm supposed to see DD 5.1 light up or if PCM was normal.
I think PCM is normal, as it appears I hear surround sound via Netflix but not with Amazon Instant Video. That's a shame. I know the Sony BDP-590 has Amazon IV with DD 5.1
Edited by omegatek - 3/10/13 at 12:59pm
post #2248 of 2596
had Amazon, seems like all I got was PCM; but, I cut them off in December...
post #2249 of 2596
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

had Amazon, seems like all I got was PCM; but, I cut them off in December...
There is nothing inferior about PCM. But if you are getting 2.0 then that would be.
post #2250 of 2596
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Originally Posted by omegatek View Post


Thanks.

Yeah for OTA HD like ABC, CBS, etc... I get DD 5.1 and my receiver shows it by lighting up the corresponding logo.
However, I was more or less wondering if when watching Netflix[ / Amazon IV/B], if I'm supposed to see DD 5.1 light up or if PCM was normal.
I think PCM is normal, as it appears I hear surround sound via Netflix but not with Amazon Instant Video. That's a shame. I know the Sony BDP-590 has Amazon IV with DD 5.1
I get DD from the Netflix app on my ST. It is 2.0 or 5.1 depending on the program. PCM can also be either 2.0 or 5.1 so just because it is PCM doesnt mean its not in surround sound. In fact I get 7.1 PCM from my PS3.
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