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post #2461 of 2596
Question for all you ut50 owners. I am very seriously considering the 55ut50 as Costco has a great price on them right now. However, I'm a little concerned about the effects a moderately lit living room will have on the picture. I had a Samsung LCD up until 3 weeks ago when my daughter decided to use it for batting practice apparently eek.gif. Having come from a Samsung, I picked up the Samsung UN55EH6050 from Costco. The size is quite an upgrade and the picture is certainly better than my 6 year old LCD, however there are some annoying screen uniformity issues I am having a hard time getting past.

My living room can get moderately light, not necessarily from sunlight, but from all the lights on in the house as we don't have a separate room for the TV, it just sits in our main living area which also houses the kitchen, dining room and hallway, much of which is directly opposite the TV. Very rarely can I completely control the lighting as our house is busy with chores/kids most hours.

I would love to pick up the ST50 but just the 50" version is quite a bit more expensive than the UT50 or even the Samsung LED I have now. For those of you with moderately lit viewing rooms, how does the light affect the picture on it? Do you notice a definite decrease in contrast with the lights on? This is my main concern, as I don't believe the reflective screen will bother me too much since my old Samsung had a completely glossy screen on it as well and it never bothered me. Also, given that most of my TV watching is in a well lit room, should I pass on the UT50 as an option?

Thanks in advance!
post #2462 of 2596
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Originally Posted by jchristian79 View Post

Question for all you ut50 owners. I am very seriously considering the 55ut50 as Costco has a great price on them right now. However, I'm a little concerned about the effects a moderately lit living room will have on the picture. I had a Samsung LCD up until 3 weeks ago when my daughter decided to use it for batting practice apparently eek.gif. Having come from a Samsung, I picked up the Samsung UN55EH6050 from Costco. The size is quite an upgrade and the picture is certainly better than my 6 year old LCD, however there are some annoying screen uniformity issues I am having a hard time getting past.

My living room can get moderately light, not necessarily from sunlight, but from all the lights on in the house as we don't have a separate room for the TV, it just sits in our main living area which also houses the kitchen, dining room and hallway, much of which is directly opposite the TV. Very rarely can I completely control the lighting as our house is busy with chores/kids most hours.

I would love to pick up the ST50 but just the 50" version is quite a bit more expensive than the UT50 or even the Samsung LED I have now. For those of you with moderately lit viewing rooms, how does the light affect the picture on it? Do you notice a definite decrease in contrast with the lights on? This is my main concern, as I don't believe the reflective screen will bother me too much since my old Samsung had a completely glossy screen on it as well and it never bothered me. Also, given that most of my TV watching is in a well lit room, should I pass on the UT50 as an option?

Thanks in advance!


I have mine in a room that has light coming from a bay window to the left and two double hung window facing the UT50. During the day i have some moderate reflections but the picture is still very good and at night with the lights on it is not a problem. Worst case is you buy and try it out and if you're not happy return it. wink.gif
post #2463 of 2596
The only major difference between the UT50 and ST50 I believe is the antireflective screen. I'm used to CRT displays, with their glass screens, so honestly that thing wasn't a big deal to me. Reflections are there but I don't really notice them.
post #2464 of 2596
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Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post

The only major difference between the UT50 and ST50 I believe is the antireflective screen. I'm used to CRT displays, with their glass screens, so honestly that thing wasn't a big deal to me. Reflections are there but I don't really notice them.

Which has it?
post #2465 of 2596
The ST50
post #2466 of 2596
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Originally Posted by morphinapg View Post

The ST50

Thanks; I know, implied above, but, not stated. I've 3 windows, the 60" version of the UT, with no problems with glare to speak of, although it is always better during hours of darkness.

Two long & thin vertical windows to the left (east), heavily shaded, with tint, but no curtains, et Cetera; one double sized window to the rear (north), with tint, blinds, curtains, and a slopping patio roof & shaded.
post #2467 of 2596
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Originally Posted by jchristian79 View Post

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I would love to pick up the ST50 but just the 50" version is quite a bit more expensive than the UT50 or even the Samsung LED I have now. For those of you with moderately lit viewing rooms, how does the light affect the picture on it? Do you notice a definite decrease in contrast with the lights on? This is my main concern, as I don't believe the reflective screen will bother me too much since my old Samsung had a completely glossy screen on it as well and it never bothered me. Also, given that most of my TV watching is in a well lit room, should I pass on the UT50 as an option?

Thanks in advance!

I'm happy w/ my UT50 and chose it over the ST50 for cost. But reflectivity is a real issue. For me the problem isn't so much the loss of contrast in a bright room -- that can be compensated for by customizing one of the picture modes (like VIVID) for daytime use (and turning off CATS). The real problem for me is the reflection of light sources off the mirror-like screen at night.

You can probably use your existing setup to see if this would be an issue by turning off the set and viewing it from your favorite seats with the lights on. If you can see the reflection of any light bulbs, those could be an annoyance with the UT50. The less like a mirror your existing set looks, the more of an issue those lights could become.

I've been able to adapt by moving problematic light sources. But I have my eye on a TV stand like this tilt-mount one that will let me tilt the screen down about 5 or 10 degrees, enough to keep the dining room lights out of view.

The UT50 is excellent value for money IMHO, but you're right to give solid consideration to the mirror-like reflectivity.
post #2468 of 2596
The above post reminded me, when we moved our UT up, so that is above eye level slightly, it was like getting a new tv. Before, when it was on a cab, we were looking down about 1.5 feet, now we are looking up about a foot. Really cut the glare down next to nothing.
post #2469 of 2596
Great points about mounting it. Our tv was wall mounted before we moved last year but we're in a rental now so we can't mount it. We are hoping to move in the year or two though so that's definitely something to think about.

Thanks for the input.
post #2470 of 2596
Hello,

I just recently noticed a loud buzzing from my 50" ut50.I have had the UT50 for 11 months.The weird thing is it only buzz when there is a signal going to i.The signals are bluray and satellite.The Ut-50 is quiet without signal and a buzzing starts when it receives signal.Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
post #2471 of 2596
Hello,

I just recently noticed a loud buzzing from my 50" ut50.I have had the UT50 for 11 months.The weird thing is it only buzz when there is a signal going to i.The signals are bluray and satellite.The Ut-50 is quiet without signal and a buzzing starts when it receives signal.Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
post #2472 of 2596
Does anyone know if there is a way to get the image retention wipe to run non stop in the service menu?
post #2473 of 2596
Does anyone know a way to get the videos to loop without popping up the info bar when they start to loop back while using USB?
post #2474 of 2596
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Originally Posted by jasammeg View Post

Hello,

I just recently noticed a loud buzzing from my 50" ut50.I have had the UT50 for 11 months.The weird thing is it only buzz when there is a signal going to i.The signals are bluray and satellite.The Ut-50 is quiet without signal and a buzzing starts when it receives signal.Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

There is a service bulletin for this from Panasonic that is a known issue. If you call them they will send out a tech to fix it for free. Has to do with screws and washers around a transformer in the tv.
post #2475 of 2596
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Originally Posted by HBizzle26 View Post

Does anyone know if there is a way to get the image retention wipe to run non stop in the service menu?

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Originally Posted by HBizzle26 View Post

Does anyone know a way to get the videos to loop without popping up the info bar when they start to loop back while using USB?

I think the scroll bar shuts off after 15 minutes - I think that's what past posts have said. I don't know about the media player looping, but there's probably not away around it. I would suggest popping the video into a BD/DVD player on repeat - if possible, or connect a PC to it and have the playback software repeat on a loop.
post #2476 of 2596
Thank you HBizzle26.I called and they are sending tech out to repair.
post #2477 of 2596
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Originally Posted by jasammeg View Post

Thank you HBizzle26.I called and they are sending tech out to repair.

Should you need one, don't forget they have a loaner program.
post #2478 of 2596
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Should you need one, don't forget they have a loaner program.

They did the repair in my living room and fixed it right there. Took 15 minutes.
post #2479 of 2596
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Originally Posted by anikun07 View Post


I think the scroll bar shuts off after 15 minutes - I think that's what past posts have said. I don't know about the media player looping, but there's probably not away around it. I would suggest popping the video into a BD/DVD player on repeat - if possible, or connect a PC to it and have the playback software repeat on a loop.

Gonna run a white screen slide or video paused and see how it does.
post #2480 of 2596
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Originally Posted by HBizzle26 View Post

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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Should you need one, don't forget they have a loaner program.

They did the repair in my living room and fixed it right there. Took 15 minutes.

Good new for you & all those who have complained about BUZZING!
post #2481 of 2596
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Good new for you & all those who have complained about BUZZING!

Yeah if you have a UT50 I would call them now and complain about it just so they can fix it.
post #2482 of 2596
Don't have any buzzing.
post #2483 of 2596
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Originally Posted by jchristian79 View Post

Question for all you ut50 owners. I am very seriously considering the 55ut50 as Costco has a great price on them right now. However, I'm a little concerned about the effects a moderately lit living room will have on the picture. I had a Samsung LCD up until 3 weeks ago when my daughter decided to use it for batting practice apparently eek.gif. Having come from a Samsung, I picked up the Samsung UN55EH6050 from Costco. The size is quite an upgrade and the picture is certainly better than my 6 year old LCD, however there are some annoying screen uniformity issues I am having a hard time getting past.

My living room can get moderately light, not necessarily from sunlight, but from all the lights on in the house as we don't have a separate room for the TV, it just sits in our main living area which also houses the kitchen, dining room and hallway, much of which is directly opposite the TV. Very rarely can I completely control the lighting as our house is busy with chores/kids most hours.

I would love to pick up the ST50 but just the 50" version is quite a bit more expensive than the UT50 or even the Samsung LED I have now. For those of you with moderately lit viewing rooms, how does the light affect the picture on it? Do you notice a definite decrease in contrast with the lights on? This is my main concern, as I don't believe the reflective screen will bother me too much since my old Samsung had a completely glossy screen on it as well and it never bothered me. Also, given that most of my TV watching is in a well lit room, should I pass on the UT50 as an option?

Thanks in advance!

jchristian79, the Costco price on the UT50 swayed me from the Samsung UNES7150, I think, which I'd been watching drop in price for months.

I remembered issues with plasma early on, and had kinda written them off. Then I saw the one in Costco on and set to high settings like everything else.

Oh. Wow. Wait, this is just over half the price of the Samsung?!

Went home, got the other vehicle, so it'd fit, drove back, $749 + tax. We've had it about a month, and it was a VERY smart purchase. I was a bit concerned about potential burn-in with channel logos being on pretty much every channel, now, but they don't appear to be a problem.

Heh, heh...appear...video artifacts...heh, heh... Okay, lame, I know.

The area we have ours in has windows both to the right of the seating area and behind us. There are times the reflections can be a bit much, but we have what were originally decorative drapes on these windows. Turns out, they do a decent job of cutting reflective light to near zero, though we have large blinds on those windows, and on the west-facing ones, there are solar screens.

I wrestled with the potential screen reflectivity, but it was well worth the risk. Turns out, with the settings available, anything but direct sunlight should be tolerable.

To be fair, the UT50 replaced a perfectly functional circa-1998 Sony 27" flat-screen CRT, with matching stand. It was somewhat difficult, logically, to replace something which had nothing wrong with it, then I saw what the series North America looks like in HD, on a borderline giant screen. Yeah, worth it, though it's not like the Sony was trashed. I may have to consider replacing my old 21" IBM flat-screen CRT computer monitor with it.

tongue.gif

My wife and I have been to many of those places on the series North America, as we explored by diesel motorcoach for about 4 years...49 states, 9 provinces, and one territory, and this is about as close as you're gonna get to being there, quite honestly. Grizzlies hunting salmon in rivers, with bald eagles swooping down to pick up the leftovers really should be seen in-person, if possible. It's breathtaking.
post #2484 of 2596
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Originally Posted by mckellyb View Post

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Originally Posted by jchristian79 View Post

Question for all you ut50 owners. I am very seriously considering the 55ut50 as Costco has a great price on them right now. However, I'm a little concerned about the effects a moderately lit living room will have on the picture. I had a Samsung LCD up until 3 weeks ago when my daughter decided to use it for batting practice apparently eek.gif. Having come from a Samsung, I picked up the Samsung UN55EH6050 from Costco. The size is quite an upgrade and the picture is certainly better than my 6 year old LCD, however there are some annoying screen uniformity issues I am having a hard time getting past.

My living room can get moderately light, not necessarily from sunlight, but from all the lights on in the house as we don't have a separate room for the TV, it just sits in our main living area which also houses the kitchen, dining room and hallway, much of which is directly opposite the TV. Very rarely can I completely control the lighting as our house is busy with chores/kids most hours.

I would love to pick up the ST50 but just the 50" version is quite a bit more expensive than the UT50 or even the Samsung LED I have now. For those of you with moderately lit viewing rooms, how does the light affect the picture on it? Do you notice a definite decrease in contrast with the lights on? This is my main concern, as I don't believe the reflective screen will bother me too much since my old Samsung had a completely glossy screen on it as well and it never bothered me. Also, given that most of my TV watching is in a well lit room, should I pass on the UT50 as an option?

Thanks in advance!

jchristian79, the Costco price on the UT50 swayed me from the Samsung UNES7150, I think, which I'd been watching drop in price for months.

I remembered issues with plasma early on, and had kinda written them off. Then I saw the one in Costco on and set to high settings like everything else.

Oh. Wow. Wait, this is just over half the price of the Samsung?!

Went home, got the other vehicle, so it'd fit, drove back, $749 + tax. We've had it about a month, and it was a VERY smart purchase. I was a bit concerned about potential burn-in with channel logos being on pretty much every channel, now, but they don't appear to be a problem.

Heh, heh...appear...video artifacts...heh, heh... Okay, lame, I know.

The area we have ours in has windows both to the right of the seating area and behind us. There are times the reflections can be a bit much, but we have what were originally decorative drapes on these windows. Turns out, they do a decent job of cutting reflective light to near zero, though we have large blinds on those windows, and on the west-facing ones, there are solar screens.

I wrestled with the potential screen reflectivity, but it was well worth the risk. Turns out, with the settings available, anything but direct sunlight should be tolerable.

To be fair, the UT50 replaced a perfectly functional circa-1998 Sony 27" flat-screen CRT, with matching stand. It was somewhat difficult, logically, to replace something which had nothing wrong with it, then I saw what the series North America looks like in HD, on a borderline giant screen. Yeah, worth it, though it's not like the Sony was trashed. I may have to consider replacing my old 21" IBM flat-screen CRT computer monitor with it.

tongue.gif

My wife and I have been to many of those places on the series North America, as we explored by diesel motorcoach for about 4 years...49 states, 9 provinces, and one territory, and this is about as close as you're gonna get to being there, quite honestly. Grizzlies hunting salmon in rivers, with bald eagles swooping down to pick up the leftovers really should be seen in-person, if possible. It's breathtaking.

Thanks for the input, I really appreciate it. I've been wrestling all week with which route to go. Costco has the 55ut50 now for 679 which really has leaned more toward taking the Samsung back.

The set up you described is similar to mine. I have main windows to the right of the TV and kitchen lights directly behind the seating (facing the tv). The Samsung actually only has a partial matte display so I can still see some reflections in it.

I think my biggest concern really is the potential for a more washed out picture when the room is at its brightest. My wife isn't too up on the idea of exchanging tv's so I'm thinking I need to commit to this one or exchange it and commit to that one. Hmmmmmm.


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post #2485 of 2596
Yeah, I was on the fence about waiting, but the asterisk on the price card means once they've sold what's in stock, that's it.

There were four, plus the display. The price did not drop again before the three left after I relieved them of one.

At below $700 (!!!!!), I'd be ALL OVER IT.

In fact, I'd be sorely tempted to get two, and replace the aged, but still functional, rear-projection Mitsubishi HD set, which is wow, probably 14-15 years old (but was in storage for about 12 of those years), but we had it fixed last year, so it's in-use for the time being.

edit: The movie room, upstairs, really should have something larger, though. While tempting to go the projector route, bulbs can get expensive over time.

I'd really like our sole upstairs room, which is designed to be a media/theatre room...we put up blackout curtains, it's wired for four channels in the ceiling, and just about the perfect size 530 sq. ft., or so (and the three pinballs don't encroach).

That reminds me, I need to tweak the speaker placements to I can use the old, but still nice, Yamaha RX-V1 in a 7.1 configuration.
Edited by mckellyb - 6/2/13 at 1:07pm
post #2486 of 2596
Well, I was back at Costco today. Still hadn't made up my mind but was looking at the UT50 again. As I was walking away, I look over and see 5 new 50PS64's for 729. they had just gotten them in this morning and didn't have a display. The guy offered to set one up while I shopped. Once set up, he turned it on and WOW. The new infinite black panel on it really cut the reflections and the pictured seemed far better than the ut50 next to it.

So, I bought it on the spot. Just set it up at home and I have to say I believe it's a keeper! I don't notice any reflections and even with all my windows open and lights on, the contrast and saturation are nearly what the Samsung led is!

It is 5" smaller than the Samsung I have now, but its still bigger than my older one.

I can't find hardly any info on it though. The date on the back of it shows May 2013 so I'm assuming its a brand new model.


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post #2487 of 2596
Yes congrats, your new thread is the S60 owners thread which is also a s64 owners thread. You should go there and tell those guys as I think you are the first person to get one here at AVS.
post #2488 of 2596
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Originally Posted by HBizzle26 View Post

There is a service bulletin for this from Panasonic that is a known issue. If you call them they will send out a tech to fix it for free. Has to do with screws and washers around a transformer in the tv.

Is this the same buzzing that is heard when displaying a white/bright screen? I thought that was normal for plasmas...should I have my set serviced?
post #2489 of 2596
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Originally Posted by jaycam View Post

Is this the same buzzing that is heard when displaying a white/bright screen? I thought that was normal for plasmas...should I have my set serviced?
If you can hear it from the from 8ft away, you should have it serviced. There is a bit of buzz from the plasma, but if you can hear it from a normal watching distance, something isn't right. I had mine repaired. Super painless. They will walk you through a little troubleshooting when you call the tech line, so make sure you call them when it is buzzing. When the tech came to repair, he was in and out in less than 1/2 an hour.
post #2490 of 2596
Thanks. I can hear the buzzing from my couch with average volume levels and gets louder on bright/white screens. I'll give Panasonic a call and see what they say.

Thanks again!
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