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post #301 of 538
Just a FYI, Kerdi board from Schluter isn't the only game in town, I saw this at Conestoga Tille contractors show and tell and it looked just as good at a lower price point.

http://www.finpan.com/backer-board/propanel.php
post #302 of 538
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Just a FYI, Kerdi board from Schluter isn't the only game in town, I saw this at Conestoga Tille contractors show and tell and it looked just as good at a lower price point.

http://www.finpan.com/backer-board/propanel.php

Very cool Big.. always on the lookout for new and innovative products. Don't wanna drag this poor thread off topic, but that's pretty cool. For being so lightweight I wonder what the impact resistance is.

Tim
post #303 of 538
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We had a carpet guy out to give us estimate

the color that really stood out was masland st marks square

the price i thought was pretty hight 725sq ft and 126 sq ft of black for the stage

4126.00

my friend gave the number of place that he used they supply the local big box stores
they only charge 15% above there coast for the carpet and then my friend hired someone else to lay the carpet so
i should have the price of just the carpet on monday and will see how much safes me going that route

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post #304 of 538
Like the carpet choice... smile.gif
post #305 of 538
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my order of Duratex came this morning so it was time to finally paint the speaker the boxes that have been ready for paint for some time now.
u used a foam roller because i wanted a fairly smooth coat i never really like the heavy textured coat that you get when using a nap roller.
this stuff goes on very nicely it easy to work with... i ended up doing 3 coats... very happy with the product and highly recommend it.
cross overs are made to tomorrow i will finish up assembling and hopefully hook them up to a receiver and give them a quick test...

will post my thoughts and finally pics later.......

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post #306 of 538
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time for some sound!!.... well nothing makes your heart sink more then when you wire up your speakers and no sound!!! no where in the instructions did it mention the j3b jumper in right below the two white resisters but after looking at this pic i realized it need to be there mad.gif.....



once that was fixed we had sound!!!


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Edited by snickers1 - 2/15/13 at 2:41pm
post #307 of 538
Attaboy snickers!!!!
post #308 of 538
What kind of cost and build time do you have in your speakers?
post #309 of 538
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

What kind of cost and build time do you have in your speakers?

there is long standing thread on the econwave speakers at www.audiokarma.org ,
here is the parts breakdown all parts can be purchased at parts express

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i did not use the cabinet kit i built my own boxes from MDF i am not sure how many sheets it took and i am guessing two.. but i used so much mdf in the theater i am sure i used a full sheet and some of what was left over from the theater.

as far as time .... i would i spent a full day building the boxes,

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i think a spent a few hours in building the crossovers
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then some bondo and sanding


i also used the duratex to paint the cabs..... i put 3 coats on each box which took a couple hours then over night to fully dry

then finally assembly was maybe three hours but i did run into a glitch but was easily fixed so that added some time.


so guess maybe 15 to 20 hours of work and costing around 5 to 600$ dollars. that compared to what i nice set L/C/R 's i think i saved allot...
not to mention when i tested these and heard how great they sounded the shear excitement of hearing something that i built with my own hands was priceless.
i am sure i would have been excited to hear a great set of speakers if i had bought a named branded speaker but building my own was exciting and fun.
post #310 of 538
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ok so far the best price i was getting for the masland St. marks square are just to high ... i still have one person that is suppose to get back me with a price

here is the Masland sample




and this plan "B" Stainmaster silver lake ... which i can do for much cheaper




i really like the look and feel of the Masland it looked really good up against the grey in the theater area... but the cost difference is a killer confused.gif

what do you guys think??
Edited by snickers1 - 2/17/13 at 5:35am
post #311 of 538
I wish I could get carpet that cheap, the prices I was quoted on the Stanton carpet I chose were between $1,600 and $2,500 for just 198 sq. ft.
post #312 of 538
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

I wish I could get carpet that cheap, the prices I was quoted on the Stanton carpet I chose were between $1,600 and $2,500 for just 198 sq. ft.

i am looking at 735 sq ft for $4,500 the rooms aren't that big but because of the pattern of the carpet and the two seems needed the guy says i will need that much frown.gif
post #313 of 538
I've just had sticker shock so far in my carpet buying experience I am going to have to look at cheaper options as well.
post #314 of 538
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

I've just had sticker shock so far in my carpet buying experience I am going to have to look at cheaper options as well.

your room looks really good the masland would look great in there biggrin.gif $$$$$$
post #315 of 538
Yeah, the masland does look better. Great job on the speakers btw.
post #316 of 538
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Originally Posted by Jonny5nz View Post

Yeah, the masland does look better. Great job on the speakers btw.
Thank you .... i know i like the Masland better also ..... i may just have to wait a little longer and save my pennies
post #317 of 538
I prefer the Masland and based on the pricing you are getting, I think it's a pretty good deal. The carpet store I went with gave me builder pricing and said the square foot cost I was getting would be the same even if I was doing the entire house. My 2nd quote was within $50 of this one.

For comparison, my cost breakdown looked like this:

Floor & Riser
309 SF Masland Quadrate-Times Square w/ 3/8" pad (floor & riser) @ $5.15/sf=$1591.35
Labor + extra charges for riser, riser steps & pattern match=$149.65

Stage
81 SF Masland Signet- Black w/ .45" pad @ $5.75/sf=$465.75
Labor + extra charges for stage steps=$96.25

Misc.
.45" pad + labor to relay existing carpet in new media closet (30 sf)=$100.00

Total=$2403.00

It's a big expense either way. I'd say go with the one that you like best.
post #318 of 538
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Originally Posted by Spaceman View Post

I prefer the Masland and based on the pricing you are getting, I think it's a pretty good deal. The carpet store I went with gave me builder pricing and said the square foot cost I was getting would be the same even if I was doing the entire house. My 2nd quote was within $50 of this one.

For comparison, my cost breakdown looked like this:

Floor & Riser
309 SF Masland Quadrate-Times Square w/ 3/8" pad (floor & riser) @ $5.15/sf=$1591.35
Labor + extra charges for riser, riser steps & pattern match=$149.65

Stage
81 SF Masland Signet- Black w/ .45" pad @ $5.75/sf=$465.75
Labor + extra charges for stage steps=$96.25

Misc.
.45" pad + labor to relay existing carpet in new media closet (30 sf)=$100.00

Total=$2403.00

It's a big expense either way. I'd say go with the one that you like best.

thanks ..he was not charging any extra for the stage and riser

actually here is how he breaks it down

The first cut of carpet I need is running parallel to the length of the stage in the theater area. It will be 12' x 16' (192 square feet). The next cut of carpet will run from the wall behind the stairs all the way to the back wall behind the bar (before the bar begins). It needs to be 12' x 21'6" (258 square feet). The third cut will run from the doorway to the "game room" to the beginning of the bar. That cuts needs to be 12' x 15' (180 square feet). Finally, the final cut I need of the Quadrate will cover the raised platform in the theater area. Because I am running the carpet east-west, that cut needs to be 12'x 8'9" (105 square feet) to cover the platform and the drop down to the main floor. The remaining part of that piece is being used to cover the steps. The total needed of the Quadrate style is 735 square feet.

For the stage, I have to make sure the carpet I use covers from the far back wall all the way to the furthest south tip of the curves step. Because the stage is 15'7" at its widest point, to cover this without seams I would need a full 12'x15'9" piece of carpet (189 square feet) if I ran it east-west. However, as I mentioned when we met, I was willing to run the carpet north-south and put a seam on the stage in order to minimize the footage needed. To cover from the back of the stage down the front of the stage nosing, I need a 5' length of carpet. I need two of these 5' lengths to cover the stage and the step, so I am ordering a 12'x10'3" (126 square feet) cut.

There is obviously going to be some leftover small pieces of waste carpet, but that is a normal part of any carpet installation. By the nature of the beast, you have more waste associated with patterned carpets. I also explored the option of running the carpet in the north-south direction and no square footage would be saved.

The normal pricing for the Masland Quadrate is $5.52 per square foot, fully installed with padding. The normal price for the solid Mohawk carpet on the stage is $3.29 per square foot, fully installed. Your proposal is based on ($5.52 x 735) + ($3.29 x 126) = $4,471.74. The proposal then reflects the 10% home show discount included.
post #319 of 538
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rear speakers came in today

Klipsch RS-41 II Reference Series Surround Speaker
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i choose these because i very limited in space for the rear due the fact it is a open concept theater

in this pic you can i only have about 10" inches of space up near the ceiling, the grill that comes with the speakers will blend in real nice.

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post #320 of 538
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second carpet quote today... ok this guy came to me highly recommended from a long time friend that has used him several times and has raved about him ...
the first price i got for the masland was almost 4500 and this one came in at 3300 so this will be the one i go with in the beginning of april.

i did ask if service Maryland and he does so if anyone in the northern Va and Maryland area would like his number please just send me a pm and will be happy to share.

very very nice guy.. he not only beat the price but was very down to earth and explained exactly how and why he would do this and that.
Edited by snickers1 - 2/22/13 at 7:09am
post #321 of 538
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Originally Posted by snickers1 View Post

i did ask if service Maryland and he does so if anyone in the northern Va and Maryland area would like his number please just send me a pm and will be happy to share.

Too late! I paid for mine Wednesday. Glad you found a good price I'm sure it will look great.
post #322 of 538
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

Too late! I paid for mine Wednesday. Glad you found a good price I'm sure it will look great.

very nice can't wait to see the pics i'm jealous your geting your done before me tongue.gif
post #323 of 538
We just put carpet in our HT for $575 out the door. The room is 12' x 16' with a riser, but no stage. We were willing to take what they had in stock at a local discount carpet store and love it. It is a well installed thick multi colored carpet with pad. It is pretty dark with lots of greys in it. This is a much lower scale (and price) HT, but you can find deals...
post #324 of 538
Great work & thanks for sharing. This thread is an awesome resource!
post #325 of 538
Wow great work and great finished product! I've read through your build and Big's simple false wall thread and have a couple questions on the GOM color and the use of MDF

You mention you have Baltic Blue on top and Big mentions Crystal Blue on top with Baltic Blue on bottom: do you mean on the same panel you have used the two GOM colors two-tone-like or what? Also are the GOM panels on sidewalls just for looks or do they serve an acoustic purpose?

I'm unclear as to the use of the MDF board as paneling below the chair rail, why not just put the shadow box molding on the dry wall itself? I'm assuming the paneling has a better look but in what way? Also does the MDF cause greater acoustic reflection?

Thanks in advance
post #326 of 538
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Originally Posted by Mark Lem View Post

Wow great work and great finished product! I've read through your build and Big's simple false wall thread and have a couple questions on the GOM color and the use of MDF

You mention you have Baltic Blue on top and Big mentions Crystal Blue on top with Baltic Blue on bottom: do you mean on the same panel you have used the two GOM colors two-tone-like or what? Also are the GOM panels on sidewalls just for looks or do they serve an acoustic purpose?

I'm unclear as to the use of the MDF board as paneling below the chair rail, why not just put the shadow box molding on the dry wall itself? I'm assuming the paneling has a better look but in what way? Also does the MDF cause greater acoustic reflection?

Thanks in advance

In Bigs build he used gom above and below the chair rail... in my case i went with the gom (baltic blue) above the chair rail. in my case i used 3/4 mdf below the fabric panels because the fabric panels are made from 1x2's . the reason is thickness of the mdf and the chair rail would match the thickness of the panel with the fabric wrapped on it. It creates a nice flush finished look . i also used 1x2's above the fabric panels and then installed the crown molding again this ment the fabric panel would end up flush to the bottom of the crown and also to the chair rail.

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as far acoustic that i am not sure of it was purely done for looks smile.gif ... and can tell you that the mdf was attached to wall with screws and green glue and behind that is two layers of 5/8 drywall and green clue.
post #327 of 538
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

Great work & thanks for sharing. This thread is an awesome resource!

Thank you... i wish i was little better with documenting step by step but i just get stuck in the building zone and forget to pick up the camera sometimes
there is some very well documented builds the inspired me no question Bigs Builds, old vic, cinemar, just to name a few there is many more.
post #328 of 538
Thanks for the reply it looks great!
post #329 of 538
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got a lot done on the bar today

used 1x6's 1x4's and 1x8's and one 1x10...
the fronts of the bar will be a grey glass tile that i picked up a few months ago, the rest of the ar front will be painted with cabinet paint the same color grey that i have used through out the theater...

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under neath the front upper part of the bar i had painted it black and so it was ready to install the led lights
they look very bright in the pics but luckily i can dim them.


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post #330 of 538
Really cool. cool.gif Nice, neat work as always.
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