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Ductwork in ceiling

post #1 of 11
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Realized I cannot relocate ductwork running along cielings in basement. I am proposing to build a soundproofed jam room for band practice w dbl 5/8 rock and gg w walls and ceiling decoupled but I have to contend w these ducts. The ceiling is 7 ft as it is and I need a low profile solution to building around these ducts. it is the main supply trunk and return trunk lines. They are side by side and about 18" wide each.

Thoughts?

Thanks
post #2 of 11
Your best option would probably be to build a soffit around them using a layer of OSB to make up the frame and also act as the first layer of drywall. That way you'll save a little head room since you won't have to take up as much space with a wooden frame.

I took some pics and documented how I did it in my build thread. Check post #50. You can ignore the parts about the lights unless you want to include them.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1371617&page=2

It's going to be a little trickier with yours though since the soffit will have to be over three feet wide to accommodate both ducts. I don't know if even a dedicated piece of hat channel with lots of extra clips would be safe with that much weight. Hopefully Ted or some other qualified person will chime in to confirm or deny.
post #3 of 11
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Thanks austin. You just gave me an idea.
post #4 of 11
Rather than round ductworks, what about retangulars, then it would be thin-ER.
post #5 of 11
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They re rectangular
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by Moonzy1 View Post

Thanks austin. You just gave me an idea.

Oh come on, you can't leave me hanging like that.

What's your idea?
post #7 of 11
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Haha. My bad.....didn't ,ean to do that. After all this is idea sharing format.

All along I pretty much figured I'd have to build some type of sofit but I just didn't know how I was going to go about it without loosing a ton of headroom.

So based on your reply, I think I'll frame down some rails along the ductwork so that I can screw the plywood or mdf (I figured there wasn't any advantage to osb unless I'm missing something. Plywood or mdf would be stronger and more dense ...but if I'm wrong let me know) directly to the rails on the sides (and one I between the 2ducts to stay in code) such that it is just off e bottom of the ducts. Vs. framing allthe way around (underneath) the ducts which would cost me a few inches. This way I'll only be adding the thickness of the ply and one layer of 5/8 rock w gg in between. Im thinking I'll also decouple the rails where I hange them from the joists.

Make sense?
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Moonzy1 View Post

Haha. My bad.....didn't ,ean to do that. After all this is idea sharing format.

All along I pretty much figured I'd have to build some type of sofit but I just didn't know how I was going to go about it without loosing a ton of headroom.

So based on your reply, I think I'll frame down some rails along the ductwork so that I can screw the plywood or mdf (I figured there wasn't any advantage to osb unless I'm missing something. Plywood or mdf would be stronger and more dense ...but if I'm wrong let me know) directly to the rails on the sides (and one I between the 2ducts to stay in code) such that it is just off e bottom of the ducts. Vs. framing allthe way around (underneath) the ducts which would cost me a few inches. This way I'll only be adding the thickness of the ply and one layer of 5/8 rock w gg in between. Im thinking I'll also decouple the rails where I hange them from the joists.

Make sense?

Yup. That's exactly what I was describing and what I did in my room.

Osb is used because it's so much cheaper than plywood or mdf. The difference in densities isn't going to make much (if any) difference with sound isolation. There's lots of people on here that use osb instead of drywall for their first layer all the way around the room. Go for the osb and enjoy the cost savings.

There's still the concern of the weight of the soffit and your decoupling method of choice. The best way would probably be to hang the top 2x2 off a dedicated piece of hat channel with an isolation clip on every joist along the span. Like I said earlier though, a three foot wide soffit is going to weigh a ton and I don't know if the clips and channel are rated to take that kind of weight. Hopefully someone who knows the specifications will chime in or you might want to pm Ted White directly to make sure what you're going to build is safe.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
Theres a few inches space between the ducts s I'll drop a rail down from there too to split the difference of the 3' duct span. Tht should make all the difference frm a load bearing standpoint.

Thanks austin.

Keep you posted as i go
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Moonzy1 View Post

Theres a few inches space between the ducts s I'll drop a rail down from there too to split the difference of the 3' duct span. Tht should make all the difference frm a load bearing standpoint.

Thanks austin.

Keep you posted as i go

Alright that sounds great then! Just make sure nothing touches those ducts.
post #11 of 11
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Yup
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