Originally Posted by Dex Robinson
The simple fact is, the EE is there for all to see. I appreciate that Mr. Kimmel goes to great lengths to defend "our very own Mr. Nick Redman" but his defense isn't necessary. This isn't about blaming his Nick Redman for material supplied by Fox.
People just need to look at this honestly. Twilight Time has developed a "halo" (pun intended) much like Criterion. Criticism isn't tolerated.
Here are the excuses I've read for the halos in JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH: jpeg artifacts in the screen caps, edge enhancement built into the film, and things seen against back lighting. Frankly, the excuses are a bit embarrassing.
If this had been a Universal release, would people try so hard to find excuses for the halos? Do people try to dismiss EE in Universal films as built into the film or backlighting?
If people feel better about the film because they think these are backlighting halos and not EE halos, I really don't have a problem with that. If rationalizing what they see adds to their enjoyment, that's not a problem. We all do it in one way or another.
But the irrational defense of anything coming from "our very own Mr. Nick Redman" is tiresome and unnecessary.
You seem to have left out (conveniently) the part that Mr. Redman knows that any comments I give will tell it as I see it, whether yay or nay. Anyone who knows me knows that and him above all. When I saw the DVD transfer of a proposed release early on, I told him "You can't do that - you will get eaten alive, it's horrible." He immediately cancelled that release. The edge enhancement in Universal films is completely different than what's being bandied about by you and two or three others as BAD edge enhancement on the Journey transfer ("brutal" to use your hyperbolic word). On another board, someone has posted the theatrical trailer to this film - funny, but what people are calling edge enhancement in one particular scene is on that trailer - same thing. Is that edge enhancement, too? Because if you think Fox went to the expense and trouble to do edge enhancement on one part of a frame in a TRAILER, you need to think again. I have said repeatedly (and which you also conveniently ignore) that there are other edges in that mountaintop scene which have no what you call "haloes." How can that be? They just didn't arbitrarily edge enhance Miss Dahl's cape. Same thing in the earlier dinner scene which I was told was rife with force fields and edge enhancement. Sorry, it isn't. Because if it were, where are these haloes in the close-ups? In every shot with a hard edge? Again, Fox would not have spent the kind of dough it would take to do one scene but not the next scene or do a partial shot of one scene - it makes no sense. But we know you know better. I'd just like to hear HOW you know better.
I'm not as knowledgeable as say Robert Harris, but, as I clearly said, I have sat in the room and watched the process and seen how it works and what the result is and how far you have to go to get that result and what that result does to the rest of the image.
But it's okay for folks to post any old thing they like based on I don't know what, but never okay for them to be taken to task for it. Well, I find this kind of thing harmful and it was time to speak up. Mr. Redman is a dear friend of mine for over twenty years. He knows that the one thing anyone can count on with me is getting an honest opinion from me. Of course, that honest opinion is MY opinion and doesn't have to be shared by others, but he knows I will not come on my site and say something just to be nice or supportive. I did not make that post to stand up for Twilight Time (and Fox) and this particular transfer because he's a friend, I made the post because it's the way I felt after having watched it. You can continue to take things out of context, that's the Internet way and easy, but anyone who reads the entirety of it will at least see the big picture of what I'm saying. They don't have to agree with it, but they'll see it. The problem with these boards is that no one can ever admit they were wrong - they know too much, they are the experts, despite having never been part of the process. This rush to judgment on DNR and edge enhancement, mostly based on screen captures, has reached epic proportions. It's like, as someone posted, a witch hunt. And when it's proven that something has been misidentified as edge enhancement or DNR (Breakfast at Tiffany's for the latter) no one ever comes back and says, "Oops, sorry, I was wrong."
Obviously some transfers have had DNR applied and the same with edge enhancement. Sometimes it's very obvious and sometimes it's not identified at all because it's done very subtly. Isn't it funny that the only cries of DNR on Journey come from the other site you like to post to and now here, thanks to your post. There are posts about this transfer on the HTF, but even those less than thrilled with it have not once used edge enhancement as a complaint.