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post #61 of 72
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I'm trying to decide whether to get serious about a Middle Atlantic Slim5 rack or not. I designed my equipment closet opening for a specific model, the MA 5-29 (29 U 20" deep), but also had some ideas for DIY racking. However, I have been wondering about weight and airflow and wonder if particle board shelves will really cut it.

Some receivers and amps can get upwards of 50, 75 lbs! Would a DIY shelf hold up? Any thoughts on it? I guess I could build something sturdy still either way, but is it worth the effort?
Edited by danielrg - 5/1/13 at 11:58pm
post #62 of 72
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I haven't gotten any advice on the rack stuff. Also still wondering what people prefer for build threads - that the first post or two stay the same or get updated with the "latest" on the build. Any thoughts on that? Maybe I'll do a poll, that might be fun.

I've setup a search in eBay - you can save your searches - for Middle Atlantic products, and I just get an email each day with results of the search.

So I am going to watch for the 5-29 rack and see if it shows up and I can bid for it at a good price. If I don't get a good price, I'll go with DIY shelving initially - nothing saying I can't upgrade later!

This week I am helping my wife recover from surgery eek.gif and all my time off is going down the drain without any work done on the basement bummer. Oh, and she is doing fine, just takes time. She had a piece of rib cut out. Ouch!
post #63 of 72
Sorry to hear about your wife. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Check the "Show Me Your Rack" thread. There are plenty of DIY rack designs. As long as the shelves are narrow the weight shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Tim
post #64 of 72
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Sorry to hear about your wife. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Check the "Show Me Your Rack" thread. There are plenty of DIY rack designs. As long as the shelves are narrow the weight shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Tim

Thanks Monsieur Tim. She is recovering quickly. It's a long and somewhat interesting story how she ended up on the operating table having a piece of rib cut out. The very short of it is that her anatomy was playing against her - vein coming from her arm was being pinched between the 1st rib and the clavicle. It had clotted off twice over the last 4 years and had to be cleaned out at the hospital. We decided it was time for that pesky rib to go! wink.gif

As for the rack, I do remember looking at that thread a year or so ago. Maybe I'll frequent it again, and keep the other eye on Ebay for an MA rack.

Right now I am looking through threads trying to decide if my low voltage wiring plan is sufficient. It's probably overkill in reality, but then again would I even be hanging around here with all the other masters of overkill if I didn't have the overkill gene myself? The only thing limiting me is time and money, and any sanity my left brain can occasionally break in and impose on me biggrin.gif.
post #65 of 72
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Well, I'm having my parents over for dinner today. My dad asked me, "Am I ever going to get my saws back?" - I have his miter saw and his table saw. Hmmm. It might be time to get my own.

I've been living this:



ever since around December trying to get to the 4-way inspection milestone.

It would be an irony that now that I have done 80% of the work I need the saws for is when I'm finally going to buy my own and give the worn and torn ones back to my dad. I don't feel like such a great guy right now...rolleyes.gif but I'm not quite willing to give him the new ones either wink.gif

Earlier on when I was doing framing I borrowed a nailer and compressor from a friend. When he dropped a hint (after I'd had them for 5 months) I got my own compressor and nailer set of my own. I should've just realized and bought the tools I needed right at the beginning!

I'm sure that's never happened to ANY of you, right?

Of course, I read about many people who use these projects as an excuse to buy tools. I just used the cost of the project as an excuse to borrow them. Only to find when all my friends and family are finally tired of it and I'm still not done - that I need to buy the tools anyway!
post #66 of 72
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Of course, I read about many people who use these projects as an excuse to buy tools. I just used the cost of the project as an excuse to borrow them. Only to find when all my friends and family are finally tired of it and I'm still not done - that I need to buy the tools anyway!

I've had these feelings as well when borrowing tools. I hated handing them back worn, so if it was a saw, I'd buy a new blade, use it, then return it to my dad with both his and the new blade as a way of giving him back his tool "better" than it was before. If it was a pressure washer, it would have a full tank of gas, etc. In all cases, the second time I needed that same tool is when I put that item on my shopping list. Tools are never a waste of money when you use them more than once. The only downside is that I'm now all out of storage space... which is okay really because my table saw, miter saw, etc etc will all come in handy building that new, larger storage shed. biggrin.gif
post #67 of 72
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I've had these feelings as well when borrowing tools. I hated handing them back worn, so if it was a saw, I'd buy a new blade, use it, then return it to my dad with both his and the new blade as a way of giving him back his tool "better" than it was before. If it was a pressure washer, it would have a full tank of gas, etc.

Yes, in each case I have done some "pennance" by buying new blades or washing or lubing or topping off the gas. I feel it's the least I can do.
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The only downside is that I'm now all out of storage space... which is okay really because my table saw, miter saw, etc etc will all come in handy building that new, larger storage shed. biggrin.gif

Ha ha - in this case the tools are the excuse for the project! I need storage space for the tools wink.gif. I do have plans for renovations in the garage and building a tool/garden shed. So it probably wouldn't be such a bad thing to buy the tools now!
post #68 of 72
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So I am going to watch for the 5-29 rack and see if it shows up and I can bid for it at a good price. If I don't get a good price, I'll go with DIY shelving initially - nothing saying I can't upgrade later!

This week I am helping my wife recover from surgery eek.gif and all my time off is going down the drain without any work done on the basement bummer. Oh, and she is doing fine, just takes time. She had a piece of rib cut out. Ouch!

All the best with the recovery, that is most important.

For the rack, unless you really want the look of a pro rack, I'm partial to the DIY racks. I'd say go ahead and DIY it, and like you said - you can always upgrade later. smile.gif
post #69 of 72
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I don't see a lot of activity on my thread lately - but then again I'm not doing anything super interesting yet I guess.

I am right now making the final decision on my lighting and shade control.

I have one 4'x4' window that I want to have motorized blackout. I want to integrate it into a Grafik Eye QS. I'm considering Sivoia QS - only $1800 or so, right? I haven't actually priced it out yet but that's my current estimate based on things I've read.

I don't know whether to go wired or wireless. If I go wireless I can start automating the whole house. That may be a good or a bad thing...rolleyes.gif I can also automate other dimmers in the room, like the ones on my reading lights.

If I go wired then it will cost a little less, will be very solid.

Either way I am going to wire for it - but I can't use the Grafik Eye in wired/wireless mode at the same time...

I put a poll about it (I thought it would be fun to try a poll as I never have tongue.gif) on the home automation thread. Go vote!

Poll of fun - wired or wireless?
post #70 of 72
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How long do AVS featured stories stay up. I am SICK of seeing creepy eyes from the video comparison article staring on the side of my screen.

Well, the more I look into it, the more I think I should just make my Grafik Eye wired and just be part of my theater and save the money. There are so many new options opening up in home automation, much less expensive than Lutron, that I don't think the RadioRA2 is the way to go for me, unless I like having a money pit.

I'm thinking something like the Vera3 or other Zigbee or Zwave network is the way to go for the whole house. And I would be much more confident that I could do it myself and wouldn't have to call the dealer to fix this or that with the Lutron system.

Still _might_ get the Sivoia QS Wireless shades - but I can decide that down the road as I near completion.

For now, I think I'll get two things - my Grafik Eye QS Wireless, and a Pico Wireless controller (3 button with raise/lower) and a Pico wall mount adapter. The Pico could work with RadioRA2 if I go that way or work with the Grafik Eye. If I get a wired keypad later, the Pico can still be used as a remote. I think it is a very versatile way to start.

The Sivoia thing - I would have to get a wireless shade because if I ever connect to RadioRA2, my wired connection goes dead. If I leave the RadioRA2 out of it, then I can use wired and wireless devices as long as the Grafik Eye is master. I am conversing right now with Lutron to see if I order a wireless shade if it can be used as wired OR wireless. I'd like that flexibility.

I may find that IR is plenty good enough to work with the Grafik Eye and I don't need the Ethernet/RS232 module.
post #71 of 72
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How long do AVS featured stories stay up. I am SICK of seeing creepy eyes from the video comparison article staring on the side of my screen.

I am sick of AVS essentially promoting low quality movie content through streaming. It's a disservice to everyone in this forum (and others) where a lot of time & money is spent trying to recreate the cinema experience in our homes.
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Well, the more I look into it, the more I think I should just make my Grafik Eye wired and just be part of my theater and save the money. There are so many new options opening up in home automation, much less expensive than Lutron, that I don't think the RadioRA2 is the way to go for me, unless I like having a money pit.

I'm thinking something like the Vera3 or other Zigbee or Zwave network is the way to go for the whole house. And I would be much more confident that I could do it myself and wouldn't have to call the dealer to fix this or that with the Lutron system.

Still _might_ get the Sivoia QS Wireless shades - but I can decide that down the road as I near completion.

For now, I think I'll get two things - my Grafik Eye QS Wireless, and a Pico Wireless controller (3 button with raise/lower) and a Pico wall mount adapter. The Pico could work with RadioRA2 if I go that way or work with the Grafik Eye. If I get a wired keypad later, the Pico can still be used as a remote. I think it is a very versatile way to start.

The Sivoia thing - I would have to get a wireless shade because if I ever connect to RadioRA2, my wired connection goes dead. If I leave the RadioRA2 out of it, then I can use wired and wireless devices as long as the Grafik Eye is master. I am conversing right now with Lutron to see if I order a wireless shade if it can be used as wired OR wireless. I'd like that flexibility.

I may find that IR is plenty good enough to work with the Grafik Eye and I don't need the Ethernet/RS232 module.

I got a quote for Lutron and with RA2 as well. Also thought it was expensive. They included $1000 in network gear, presumably for remote management and I'm sure I would have to then pay for each tech call. There were also some limitations like you have to replace your wall switches with rocker switches. I have stone wall plates and I would have to replace them with what Lutron considers "designer" (which doesn't mesh with my design at all). There aren't any options. You want Lutron, this is what you get.

I was looking at Insteon. They have a lot more flexibility in the types of switches you can remote trigger and they are about 1/4 the price. If you're doing your whole house (like me) then the price adds up. They have other sensors - HVAC thermostats, humidity & water sensors, general switched load, door bell & smoke alarm indicators, and a bunch of other stuff. A lot of it seemed useful for HT... much more than just a lighting controller.

Sensors & switches are either single band (separate Insteon dedicated wireless network ) or dual band (wireless + powerline). Each switch acts as a repeater, creating a mesh network, which avoids distance related problems associated with a base transmitter and a bunch of receivers. Or so I'm told... I haven't actually used it yet. A friend of mine is really into home automation as a hobby. He said Lutron is good as a packaged system... something he would recommend for his grandmother. But he said if you have a technical background with any scripting / coding experience, the if/then structure of Insteon programming will be familiar and something you can DIY. I generally don't like HTPC and similar setups... like my stuff to just work. But @ $25k for Lutron, plus its decor limits, I'm looking for alternatives.
post #72 of 72
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Thanks rabident for your great comments. I agree even more as I look around that RadioRA2 is too expensive and constricting for me, especially as a tinkerer where things can add up. So I'll probably go another route. I love the Grafik Eye itself for the theater lighting control, it's high quality dimmers and IR port on the back so I'm going to stick with that. But I may not get much more Lutron after that.

As for the AVS forum stories. The same "featured stories" and "featured products" stay up forever. I'd expect them to change regularly. Where to I go to whine about it? biggrin.gif
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