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post #1111 of 1357
Thread Starter 
Glad you guys agree on the Onkyo's being superb on upscaling for on other threads I was told I had the "placebo effect" PQ disease . smile.gif
post #1112 of 1357
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

hey all. well finally got the beast mounted. I am here to say dreaux was right all along. The pq of the 90 is absolutely advanced over the 80 inch series. And this is without even doing a proper calibration and just plugging in my posted settings
Life of Pi was absolutely mind blowing on this set. Avatar took on a whole new look for new. I havent yet played much with the darbee but I will soon. Only down side is I watch a lot of Vudu and will have to stream vias a ps3 rather than with the set to see any effect.

This tv satisfies me in every way...........AND THE SIZE.........

I can't wait to see what adjustments you make to your settings.

The more I watch this TV, the more I like it.

I'm surprised how good all content looks.

My oppo 103 upscales to 1080P and I find DVD looks great as well. Blu Ray is spectatular.

I did watch Life of Pi (based on Dreux's recommendation). The 3d was great.

I know that you are even happier than I am.
post #1113 of 1357
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

Glad you guys agree on the Onkyo's being superb on upscaling for on other threads I was told I had the "placebo effect" PQ disease . smile.gif

no placebo effect, I have the 818 the vp is great.
post #1114 of 1357
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

Glad you guys agree on the Onkyo's being superb on upscaling for on other threads I was told I had the "placebo effect" PQ disease . smile.gif

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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

no placebo effect, I have the 818 the vp is great.
Yes ,
I am amazed that "some" AVS people pull out the Placebo effect card any time someone says that they got a great result from a piece of new equipment . And then insist you provide a A/B of test results wink.gif
post #1115 of 1357
no new receiver for me for awhile. I will make due and trust me thats a good thing.
post #1116 of 1357
I had my TV calibrated this morning by Robert Busch.

http://www.buschhometheater.com/isf_calibration.htm

Really nice guy who spent about 4 hours getting the TV setup. Had some initial difficulty getting into the TV menus with his computer, but he worked it out and then setup a night and day setting for the TV. No real difference between night and day other than a difference of 10 in backlighting all other settings were the same. He was unable to setup a 3D calibration for me as he stated the 80" and 90" do not allow for saving a config for 3D. Will have to setup Movie mode for this eventually. Will spend sometime with the new settings and will report back on how they look. So far though a big difference.
post #1117 of 1357
I had my P65VT30 calibrated by Robert Busch, and while I did notice some difference, overall I did not think it was worth the expense. I was going to have Jeff Meier come out to calibrate the 90 on his visit to CA, however, after talking with him extensively I again came to the same conclusion. I am very interested to hear your thoughts on the calibration with the 90. Robert tended to side with the ultra natural skin tones, which I found to mute some colors and almost give the picture a black and white look. I understand that this could've been " ISF shock", but comparing it to things that I look at in real life (IE sporting events) I felt the colors did not translate very well and were lacking the pop that I can see with my own eye.

While I still have the 65 in my bedroom, I much prefer the picture of my uncalibrated 90. I never thought I would say that considering I was a plasma die hard. There is just something about the Sharp picture that appeases me. Or perhaps it could be the fact that it takes up a good majority of the wall. biggrin.gif
Edited by rapidrezults - 5/28/13 at 5:54pm
post #1118 of 1357
Glad to see you got your 90 Zook!
I recently compared Netflix streaming from my Panny 500 player and my PS3 and they were very comparable and both very good, so I don't think you will be missing anything with the PS3.

Yup the increased PQ with the 1010 in not a placebo effect thing at all.
It is definitely more noticeable, especially with a good source, but it's an across the board increase to be sure.

I just finally got my system completed and set up this past week (with a lot of help from FastSlappy) and was busy setting up the DSX when the new Xfinity X1 platform commercial with Don Cheadle came on (where he asks for a "Cheadle command") and the PQ running through the Onk 1010 just stunned me!

As you guys know I've had the set for a couple of months now and have had it mounted on the wall for a few weeks, so it's not just a new TV sort of thing, the video processing in the Onkyo 1010 does noticeably improve the PQ.

Here are some pictures of the new layout all complete.
It's the 90" on a Monoprice articulated wall mount.
Klipsch speakers consisting of:
2 RF-7II mains
2 RF-82II wides
1 RC-64 center
2 RS-62II surrounds
4 RW-12D subs
The Onkyo TX-NR1010 as a pre-pro feeding the surrounds
An Emotiva XPA-5 feeding the mains. wides, and center.
A Panny DMP-BDT500 BD player
DTV DVR
2 Buttkicker 1000-A amps and 4 Buttkicker LFE transducers under the seating.
And a PS3

The whole system is right at 6680 watts ....... RMS!! (although 5400 of those watts are the subs and Buttkickers) biggrin.gif







Covers on:








And here's my old Home Theater system ...... wink.gif

Edited by Flyer91 - 5/28/13 at 11:18pm
post #1119 of 1357
Very impressive! What do you do for back surrounds?
post #1120 of 1357
I won't run backs, but might add heights if I can convince myself to go ahead and do the work to add them with the wiring hidden .......... read: get permission from the wife to poke more holes in the wall and further mess up the place for a week or so. redface.gif
post #1121 of 1357
Costco on-line is offers a "$2,200 manufacturer’s discount which is valid 5/26/13 through 6/15/13, while supplies last. Also includes free shipping.

I assume this is a very good price?

Think it signals anything from Sharp about the future of the model?
post #1122 of 1357
There is the listing for a LC-90LE657U on a few websites, but no release date...
post #1123 of 1357
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Originally Posted by rapidrezults View Post

I had my P65VT30 calibrated by Robert Busch, and while I did notice some difference, overall I did not think it was worth the expense. I was going to have Jeff Meier come out to calibrate the 90 on his visit to CA, however, after talking with him extensively I again came to the same conclusion. I am very interested to hear your thoughts on the calibration with the 90. Robert tended to side with the ultra natural skin tones, which I found to mute some colors and almost give the picture a black and white look. I understand that this could've been " ISF shock", but comparing it to things that I look at in real life (IE sporting events) I felt the colors did not translate very well and were lacking the pop that I can see with my own eye.

While I still have the 65 in my bedroom, I much prefer the picture of my uncalibrated 90. I never thought I would say that considering I was a plasma die hard. There is just something about the Sharp picture that appeases me. Or perhaps it could be the fact that it takes up a good majority of the wall. biggrin.gif

I spent the night watching a movie and some TV and after spending a little time with the calibrated TV, I am very happy with the picture. In particular the offensive green and red push is no longer there. Red on this TV will probably never be fully controlled, but I find the picture much better and natural. No more rosy cheeks on every face!
post #1124 of 1357
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Originally Posted by overtkill View Post

There is the listing for a LC-90LE657U on a few websites, but no release date...

Sounds like the same TV but at a reduced MRSP

http://www.videoandaudiocenter.com/LC90LE657U-p/lc90le657u.htm

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post #1125 of 1357
Wouldn't a 657U be a downgrade from the 745U?
post #1126 of 1357
Well this is a total WAG on my part ........ but when I look at the features for both the 657 and 745 I'm seeing that both are advertised on some retailer sites 'and' in early product announcements/articles from second sources, as having the Wallpaper feature.

But I don't see this motioned on any official Sharp site for the 745, so I suspect that the 657 was a model that was either originally proposed (and announced) to have the wallpaper feature (that some of the other Aquos LED-LCD sets 'do' have) but for some reason never got made, and the initial ads/features were pulled, and/or the 657 is a proposal for 2013 that was supposed to, or will have ...... the feature.

I think it's probably more fact based (was something that Sharp had planned/is planning) than it just being the retailers and article authors making the leap that either, or both of these sets have/will have it because the smaller ones do. (gee ... how's that for mincing my words ....... so I can easily eat them later on??) wink.gif

Once again ........ I'm just taking a stab at what may be the deal with these two models, based on the fact that although the feature was/is being "unofficially" advertised as added to both, I certainly can't find it anywhere on my 90".


Wish I could though ........... frown.gif
Edited by Flyer91 - 5/30/13 at 1:09pm
post #1127 of 1357
Well, I broke down and picked up a LC-90LE745U at Best Buy over Memorial Day weekend. We replaced a 60" Sony XBR DLP that started to develop the infamous blue blob. I was due for a change, as this has been the TV in the family room for 9 years. My plan was to dump an aging entertainment center as well. You can partially see it in the first picture. My thought was to take a sawzall to this thing, but my wife wanted to give the 'ends' new life in the master. I still want to dump it.

Thoughts on the TV-this thing is massive. Excellent picture quality! The 2nd picture shows the TV on a Salamander Synergy 248. My initial plans were to have this mounted on the wall that Monday-even though it we didn't get the TV home until 5:00 PM. I hate to admit this, but I had problems putting the stand together and I had to wait until the following weekend to finish that up and to get the TV mounted. Anyone else put one of those stands together? It might be my aging eyes but the clarity of the pictures, which was the extent of the instructions, left much to be desired IMO. Well built, well designed, solid are my thoughts on the stand. Instructions were...terrible. Next one would be easy, the first one took 3 hours. We could have left it on top of the stand, but my plans were to wall mount it.

The 3rd picture is where everything is mounted. I've got plans for a new receiver and some other components, but I've got to recover from this first. Not as impressive as Flyer91's set-up, but...

One question, is there any value in a Sony KDF60XBR950 with a stand that has optical block problems?





post #1128 of 1357
Sharp is offering 2,000 off right on their website. I am ready to jump but am wondering if they are releasing a new model soon. I know at the trade show they said it would stay the same, but maybe they upgraded the computer and programming and not the panel?

http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/HomeEntertainment/LCDTV/Models/LC90LE745U.aspx
post #1129 of 1357
Rumor has it a step down model is coming that has the of the enhanced apps. I have a feeling its going to be edge lit to get the cost down even further
post #1130 of 1357
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Originally Posted by scgms1 View Post

Well, I broke down and picked up a LC-90LE745U at Best Buy over Memorial Day weekend. We replaced a 60" Sony XBR DLP that started to develop the infamous blue blob. I was due for a change, as this has been the TV in the family room for 9 years. My plan was to dump an aging entertainment center as well. You can partially see it in the first picture. My thought was to take a sawzall to this thing, but my wife wanted to give the 'ends' new life in the master. I still want to dump it.

Thoughts on the TV-this thing is massive. Excellent picture quality! The 2nd picture shows the TV on a Salamander Synergy 248. My initial plans were to have this mounted on the wall that Monday-even though it we didn't get the TV home until 5:00 PM. I hate to admit this, but I had problems putting the stand together and I had to wait until the following weekend to finish that up and to get the TV mounted. Anyone else put one of those stands together? It might be my aging eyes but the clarity of the pictures, which was the extent of the instructions, left much to be desired IMO. Well built, well designed, solid are my thoughts on the stand. Instructions were...terrible. Next one would be easy, the first one took 3 hours. We could have left it on top of the stand, but my plans were to wall mount it.

The 3rd picture is where everything is mounted. I've got plans for a new receiver and some other components, but I've got to recover from this first. Not as impressive as Flyer91's set-up, but...

One question, is there any value in a Sony KDF60XBR950 with a stand that has optical block problems?






I also replaced a Sony set that was getting a blue blob. I had that for many years also.

Similarly, I put my 90" on a Salamander stand and yes, it was not that easy to put together..

I will be wall mounting soon as well
post #1131 of 1357
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Originally Posted by scgms1 View Post

One question, is there any value in a Sony KDF60XBR950 with a stand that has optical block problems?

Those SXRDs had gorgeous pictures back in the day. Too bad such a large percentage of them had optical block problems. I don't know if you're exact model qualifies, but I'm pretty sure there was a class action suit because of the green blob issue. Do a Google search. You may be able to file a claim if you haven't already.

Unfortunately, I don't think the set is worth very much at all these days, particularly if it has problems. Now that flat panels are so cheap, there is virtually no market for bulky, rear projection sets. Your best bet might be to donate it to a church or something and take a small tax write off.

Congratulations on the new set! smile.gif
post #1132 of 1357
How is the 90 inch a better picture quality then the 80 inch sharp? I am debating between the 90, 80 or the 75" Samsung what do you think I should go with?

Also it seems the sharp 90 inch is twice as expensive as a 80inch model is there any reason why?
Edited by ajonline - 6/3/13 at 6:30pm
post #1133 of 1357
as an owner of a 632, 844 and now 90.... I can say hands down the 90 is at the top of the food chain pq wise. I have seen the 75 and its obvious the edge lit is not going to compete with the full array
post #1134 of 1357
Would you guys say this screen would be too big for me under these circumstances?

main viewing distance: 12-14 feet
secondary living room outer circumference couch seating: 6-12 feet ( im not as worried about pic quality here as I am at the main centered seating)
usable living room seating size, 14x18 feet.
Also note that I move about once every year or two so This thing will be coming with me....
post #1135 of 1357
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Those SXRDs had gorgeous pictures back in the day. Too bad such a large percentage of them had optical block problems. I don't know if you're exact model qualifies, but I'm pretty sure there was a class action suit because of the green blob issue. Do a Google search. You may be able to file a claim if you haven't already.

Unfortunately, I don't think the set is worth very much at all these days, particularly if it has problems. Now that flat panels are so cheap, there is virtually no market for bulky, rear projection sets. Your best bet might be to donate it to a church or something and take a small tax write off.

Congratulations on the new set! smile.gif

My 70" sony had the blue blob problem. Not too bad, but definitely there.

I called Sony a few months ago, and they offered me a coupon for something like 15% off of a new Sony TV.
post #1136 of 1357
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Originally Posted by p0opstlnksal0t View Post

Would you guys say this screen would be too big for me under these circumstances?

main viewing distance: 12-14 feet
secondary living room outer circumference couch seating: 6-12 feet ( im not as worried about pic quality here as I am at the main centered seating)
usable living room seating size, 14x18 feet.
Also note that I move about once every year or two so This thing will be coming with me....

My current seating is about 11 feet from the Sharp. Its NOT too close for me. I have it on the stand now.

I'm going to put it on the wall, and that will give me another 8 inches or so of additional distance.

I think the additional distance will help with 3D?? I'm not sure about that, but from the little fiddling I've done, it looks like 3D is better just a little farther away?

Jack
post #1137 of 1357
it is me or does 90 already look small to the rest of you smile.gif
post #1138 of 1357
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Those SXRDs had gorgeous pictures back in the day. Too bad such a large percentage of them had optical block problems. I don't know if you're exact model qualifies, but I'm pretty sure there was a class action suit because of the green blob issue. Do a Google search. You may be able to file a claim if you haven't already.

You're correct, there were class action lawsuits that involved quite a few Sony DLP sets.

https://sites.google.com/site/sonylcdrptvproblems/sonyrearprojectionlcdtv-opticalblock

We developed problems after the expiration date for the lawsuit on our TV. Prior to this I had replaced 1 lamp. I guess 9 years isn't too bad for a TV. We contacted Sony and was offered "15% off* select High Definition TVs, Blu-ray Disc Players, and Home Theater Systems" at http://store.sony.com
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Unfortunately, I don't think the set is worth very much at all these days, particularly if it has problems. Now that flat panels are so cheap, there is virtually no market for bulky, rear projection sets. Your best bet might be to donate it to a church or something and take a small tax write off.

Yeah, I kinda' was thinking that. smile.gif I just hated to throw the set away and to spend the money on a refurbished optical block to possibly break even didn't make sense either. Good thoughts on a donation. I'll see if someone is willing to take it off my hands. Heck, I might even throw in free delivery. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Congratulations on the new set! smile.gif

Thanks!
post #1139 of 1357
Best buy said the 80inch is going to be a better picture quality that the 90 inch isn't a sharp quattron tv. Also the refresh rate on the 90 inch tv is only 120hz and the 80inch is 240 hz. What do you people think on this?
post #1140 of 1357
And you believe best buy....... quattron is the 4th pixel (yellow) and is regarded by many to have no benefit and difficult to calibrate over the standard 3 color. Hey at least they aren't trying to sell you the more expensive set I guess.....
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