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post #511 of 1106
10/27/12 at 4:19pm
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I read it on the avs thread for the moth eye that it was going to be around $12,500.
Not sure if it is worth that much and that is for the 80 incher. No 90 incher for moth eye thou..
that price is rough estimate of a Japanese model , notice that display is all silver colored , Sharp USA model would be a all black display as the silver is in style in Japan while all black is the norm here in the U.S.
Japanese Sharps are over 1/3 higher in matching retail costs than the stateside models , In Europe & the AU ,NZ the cost differences are even higher .
Even Canada they are marked up 20% more than here .

another note is the "MothEye" lens is reported to improve detail , contrast , brighter colors , has something to do with amplifying the light as it passes thru the lens > > > > > disclaimer here == "If I understand the science behind the technology correctly" rolleyes.gif
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post #512 of 1106
10/27/12 at 8:50pm
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Even Canada they are marked up 20% more than here .

Not always... The LC-90LE745U has a $9999.99 CA MSRP up here! tongue.gif Street price is another story...
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post #513 of 1106
10/27/12 at 9:00pm
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Me too.....
But even at the best on line pirce I could buy 3 Mitsubishi 92" TV's for the price of the Sharp....
I will be going to BB again today. If they are willing to match, I will have to decide.

Best Buy did match the online price..... I was pleasantly surprised so I bought it!

Supposed to be delivered Tuesday, however since I live in Maryland and am in the direct path of the storm, they may need to come by boat.

Sure looks like it will be pushed back a few days....darn.

Congrats on your purchase. Hope you give us plenty of feedback and Pics!!!

I saw the Samsung 75" display again friday with the Avengers playing on it. I felt it was quite a bit sharper and had a more punchy/contrasted image than the sharp 90" that had Kung Fu Panda playing on it. But price is high and size is missing! So since you owned an Elite, I'm curious about how you feel about sharpness, contrast and black level of the 90" vs the Elite.

BTW did you manage to sell your Elite?
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post #514 of 1106
10/28/12 at 5:58am
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Congrats on your purchase. Hope you give us plenty of feedback and Pics!!!
I saw the Samsung 75" display again friday with the Avengers playing on it. I felt it was quite a bit sharper and had a more punchy/contrasted image than the sharp 90" that had Kung Fu Panda playing on it. But price is high and size is missing! So since you owned an Elite, I'm curious about how you feel about sharpness, contrast and black level of the 90" vs the Elite.
BTW did you manage to sell your Elite?

Yes I was able to sell the Elite to a fellow AVS forum comrade. I will posts pics and my impressions after I get it. I must say the blacks of the 90" I saw displayed at BB looked very good, but will be surprised if they look as rich and deep as the Elite. I am sure I will lose some in sharpness but hopefully not much....it is after all 20" bigger (yikes).

There are supposed to deliver this Tuesday but I think the storm may cancel that. Even if they do deliver on the day I won't have any power....how ironic. We have been told we will lose power for sure.
However I did buy a generator and I could fire it up with that....not sure if I want to though, with its possibility of fluctuating power. I will probably wait until power is restored.
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post #515 of 1106
10/28/12 at 6:59am
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Yes I was able to sell the Elite to a fellow AVS forum comrade. I will posts pics and my impressions after I get it. I must say the blacks of the 90" I saw displayed at BB looked very good, but will be surprised if they look as rich and deep as the Elite. I am sure I will lose some in sharpness but hopefully not much....it is after all 20" bigger (yikes).
There are supposed to deliver this Tuesday but I think the storm may cancel that. Even if they do deliver on the day I won't have any power....how ironic. We have been told we will lose power for sure.
However I did buy a generator and I could fire it up with that....not sure if I want to though, with its possibility of fluctuating power. I will probably wait until power is restored.

Congratulations.

I didn't go to Best Buy yesterday, but went to a local Audio / Video store that happened to have a 90" set up.

I thought the blacks on the set were pretty good. Much better than my 70" Sony RPTV. Of course it was big and bright.

I saw something though.... It seemed that on some scenes with movement, I saw jagged lines where they should have been straight?

Maybe I imagined it? Maybe it just had some weird setting?

We were standing about 10 feet away. I really want to love this set.

I'm interested in how it looks in your home.
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post #516 of 1106
10/28/12 at 7:43am
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I saw something though.... It seemed that on some scenes with movement, I saw jagged lines where they should have been straight?

Maybe I imagined it? Maybe it just had some weird setting?

We were standing about 10 feet away. I really want to love this set.
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Film Mode was probably on and set to advanced. Advanced setting activates frame interpoation which induces image artefacts especially with moving content. There where no such issues on the one I saw.
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post #517 of 1106
10/28/12 at 8:55am
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Yeah but size wins.
Can be a very big deciding factor wink.gif
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post #518 of 1106
10/28/12 at 9:19am
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Film Mode was probably on and set to advanced. Advanced setting activates frame interpoation which induces image artefacts especially with moving content. There where no such issues on the one I saw.

The sales person was very nice and said they do no calibration at all, so I'm sure you are right.

One I saw a few weeks ago at Best Buy must have also had a strange setting. It definitely showed the Soap Opera Effect. No jagged lines, but it surely looked like it was shot on video and not film.
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post #519 of 1106
10/31/12 at 6:34am
Looks like my set won't be delivered until Nov. 5th. The local warehouse where the set if coming from is without power and full of water. Hopefully not too much water.
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post #520 of 1106
11/2/12 at 6:00am
Have you guys played any games via xbox, wii, playstation, etc. on the 90 inch? If so, how is it?
Edited by HPQ - 11/2/12 at 7:18am
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post #521 of 1106
11/2/12 at 9:28am
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Looks like my set won't be delivered until Nov. 5th. The local warehouse where the set if coming from is without power and full of water. Hopefully not too much water.

I'd be very vigilant about this....not accepting the set if there is any sign of water or dampness. You've put out big bucks, and I'd use your clout to make sure your set was nowhere near water.

Personally, I'd ask for a set from an unaffected warehouse.

Good luck.
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post #522 of 1106
11/2/12 at 12:04pm
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I'd be very vigilant about this....not accepting the set if there is any sign of water or dampness. You've put out big bucks, and I'd use your clout to make sure your set was nowhere near water.
Personally, I'd ask for a set from an unaffected warehouse.
Good luck.

I am going to check very closely. If there are any signs of water on the box I will refuse it. They said some water came in from the bottom door not the roof.
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post #523 of 1106
11/2/12 at 1:27pm
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I am going to check very closely. If there are any signs of water on the box I will refuse it. They said some water came in from the bottom door not the roof.

I would be very concerned as well. Reminds me of when a whole bunch of cars were flooded after hurricanes in Florida some years back and they showed up in other states good and new!

If you can get it from another location away from any water that would be best.

Best of luck!

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post #524 of 1106
11/3/12 at 8:58am
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I am going to check very closely. If there are any signs of water on the box I will refuse it. They said some water came in from the bottom door not the roof.

The reason I said water or dampness was because the latter can be an issue as well.
I obviously don't know the conditions at the warehouse, so it's impossible to comment too specifically, but if the warehouse became very damp and then humid, I'd be concerned about moisture affecting the electronics.

Again, I don't know how the unit is packed, so that's an unknown for me as well. But there should be a way of determining the impact of water or dampness, by inspection of the box, and the packing materials, as well as looking for evidence of there having been condensation anywhere. When cardboard becomes wet or damp, there are usually tell tale signs.

This set is not an inconsiderable purchase, and I just want to remind you that you are in the driver's seat, particularly at this point in the game.


90 inches!! Wow!
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post #525 of 1106
11/3/12 at 9:33pm
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The reason I said water or dampness was because the latter can be an issue as well.
I obviously don't know the conditions at the warehouse, so it's impossible to comment too specifically, but if the warehouse became very damp and then humid, I'd be concerned about moisture affecting the electronics.
Again, I don't know how the unit is packed, so that's an unknown for me as well. But there should be a way of determining the impact of water or dampness, by inspection of the box, and the packing materials, as well as looking for evidence of there having been condensation anywhere. When cardboard becomes wet or damp, there are usually tell tale signs.
This set is not an inconsiderable purchase, and I just want to remind you that you are in the driver's seat, particularly at this point in the game.
90 inches!! Wow!

You make very good points and I am going to be very careful. If there is the slightest bit of dampness anywhere on the box I am going to refuse the delivery. I have waited a week and a half, I can wait a little longer for a set from another warehouse.

I am going to tell them that is a concern of mine and that we are all going to have a close inspection party.
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post #526 of 1106
11/3/12 at 10:20pm
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You make very good points and I am going to be very careful. If there is the slightest bit of dampness anywhere on the box I am going to refuse the delivery. I have waited a week and a half, I can wait a little longer for a set from another warehouse.
I am going to tell them that is a concern of mine and that we are all going to have a close inspection party.
Do Not fall for sign here 1st before you inspect the display trick outta the driver
insist that the display in plugged in & turned on after you inspect the box for water damage ...
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post #527 of 1106
11/3/12 at 11:39pm
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Do Not fall for sign here 1st before you inspect the display trick outta the driver
insist that the display in plugged in & turned on after you inspect the box for water damage ...

That's a very good point as well.
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post #528 of 1106
11/4/12 at 7:15am
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Do Not fall for sign here 1st before you inspect the display trick outta the driver
insist that the display in plugged in & turned on after you inspect the box for water damage ...

Nothing will be signed or accepted until a full inspection and the TV is setup and plugged in. If there is any damage on the box I will refuse and not even open.
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post #529 of 1106
11/5/12 at 7:19am
Got my set this morning at 8 am. Early delivery. First was told this set came from a different warehouse than the one that had the problems. Box was dry as a bone so that problem was solved.

Have it on now, letting it warm up to get a sense of how it will look. So far it looks great. Have it on Standard setting but will tweek the settings later today after I let it warm up and watch for awhile.

Impressions and pics to follow. I am coming from the Sharp Elite PRO-70X5, so I can have somewhat of an objective view. So far I notice that the blacks are not quite as deep as the Elite, but I didn't expect them to be but they are darn good. Blacks are better than the two Sharp 80's" I have looked at.
Sharpness of course in not quite at the Elite level but real close, surprising for a set 20" bigger.

So far the longer the set is on the better it looks.
Edited by dreaux - 11/5/12 at 7:24am
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post #530 of 1106
11/5/12 at 7:28am
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Got my set this morning at 8 am. Early delivery. First was told this set came from a different warehouse than the one that had the problems. Box was dry as a bone so that problem was solved.
Have it on now, letting it warm up to get a sense of how it will look. So far it looks great. Have it on Standard setting but will tweek the settings later today after I let it warm up and watch for awhile.
Impressions and pics to follow. I am coming from the Sharp Elite PRO-70X5, so I can have somewhat of an objective view. So far I notice that the blacks are not quite as deep as the Elite, but I didn't expect them to be but they are darn good. Blacks are better than the two Sharp 80's" I have looked at.
Sharpness of course in not quite at the Elite level but real close, surprising for a set 20" bigger.
So far the longer the set is on the better it looks.

Congratulations, and I'm glad the potential headache disappeared. smile.gif

Your "review" will be interesting given your experience with the Elite. I'll bet it will only improve once you familiarize yourself with it and its settings.
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post #531 of 1106
11/5/12 at 5:04pm
Congrats!

If you have a chance could you please try those settings from Home theater review in movie mode (for a very dark room environment) and tell us how you feel about the black level with them? and the overall brightness in a pitch black room? In the store it was way too dim... and the store had no bright lights.
Contrast +2
Brightness +1
Backlight –12
Gamma –1.

And does the 90 size win over the 70 PQ?
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post #532 of 1106
11/6/12 at 5:44am
Best Buy Price Matches Amazon and Other On-line HDTV Sellers


Best Buy is now price matching Amazon and 19 other e-tailers on HDTVs, audio components and other consumer electronics. However, they leave themselves an out and a suspend the policy during the year’s biggest retail week. Learn all the details after the break.



The new price match policy began on October 7. Best Buy suspends price matching between the start of Black Friday week (Nov. 18) through Cyber Monday (November 26th). The policy states it will “match the new, identical, immediately available current pre-tax appliance and electronics hardware products price for these designated major retailers: Amazon.com, Apple.com, Bhphotovideo.com, Buy.com, Circuitcity.com, CompUSA.com, Crutchfield.com, Dell.com, hhgregg.com, hp.com, homedepot.com, lowes.com, newegg.com, officedepot.com, officemax.com, Sears.com, Staples.com, Target.com, Tigerdirect.com, and walmart.com. Appliance and electronics hardware products include audio hardware, video hardware, cameras, camcorders, desktop computers, notebook computers, e-Readers, tablets, TVs, MP3 players, small appliances, major appliances, gaming handheld devices and consoles”.

I am guessing this includes TV's, but not sure the way the article is written. They did for me. I used Powerseller NYC and they took that, at 8200.
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post #533 of 1106
11/6/12 at 5:48am
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Congrats!
If you have a chance could you please try those settings from Home theater review in movie mode (for a very dark room environment) and tell us how you feel about the black level with them? and the overall brightness in a pitch black room? In the store it was way too dim... and the store had no bright lights.
Contrast +2
Brightness +1
Backlight –12
Gamma –1.
And does the 90 size win over the 70 PQ?

I will try those settings in movie mode and see what it looks like.

Yes the 90 size does win over the 70 PQ. Surprisingly the set looks bigger when it is off than when it is on. But it is a perfect fit in my livingroom. I am sure my friends when they see it will say OMG but it's perfect for me.
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post #534 of 1106
11/6/12 at 6:33am
After a day with the 90" I feel the trade off of PQ from the Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 to the 90" is definitely worth it. Its not quite as sharp as the Elite 70" nor are the blacks as deep as the elite but I think I only will see that with high quality Blu-rays. For everyday Directv viewing it is about the same, except it is 20" larger!

I am going from Directv/blu-ray (Cambridge Azur 751BD) to my AVR..a SONY STR-DA5700ES (used as a switcher) to the back of the TV in HDMI 1. All cables are HMDI 1.4a high speed. I have a Dabee but right now have it set at 0 so I can see the set as it is.
As I said the blacks aren't as deep but they are real close. The sharpness is close to the the Elite but it is 20"s bigger which is to be expected.

Right now I have it on 'user settings'. The Dynamic is too bright and Movie too dark for me but all this is so subjective. I am sure everyone has a different idea of what looks good. In the 'user setting' all I did was raise the saturation 1 point and sharpness 1 point, the rest I left alone. When I see some setting posted online I will try them. I guess the online settings for the 80" will work?

I feel like I traded in a Ferrari for a Cadillac Escalade. Still have the luxury and more room but not as fast. I am very happy with the trade off for size.

I took some pics but I got banding, I will take some more but have to use a different shutter speed on my Nikon.
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post #535 of 1106
11/6/12 at 6:58am
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After a day with the 90" I feel the trade off of PQ from the Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 to the 90" is definitely worth it. Its not quite as sharp as the Elite 70" nor are the blacks as deep as the elite but I think I only will see that with high quality Blu-rays. For everyday Directv viewing it is about the same, except it is 20" larger!
I am going from Directv/blu-ray (Cambridge Azur 751BD) to my AVR..a SONY STR-DA5700ES (used as a switcher) to the back of the TV in HDMI 1. All cables are HMDI 1.4a high speed. I have a Dabee but right now have it set at 0 so I can see the set as it is.
As I said the blacks aren't as deep but they are real close. The sharpness is close to the the Elite but it is 20"s bigger which is to be expected.
Right now I have it on 'user settings'. The Dynamic is too bright and Movie too dark for me but all this is so subjective. I am sure everyone has a different idea of what looks good. In the 'user setting' all I did was raise the saturation 1 point and sharpness 1 point, the rest I left alone. When I see some setting posted online I will try them. I guess the online settings for the 80" will work?
I feel like I traded in a Ferrari for a Cadillac Escalade. Still have the luxury and more room but not as fast. I am very happy with the trade off for size.
I took some pics but I got banding, I will take some more but have to use a different shutter speed on my Nikon.

I'm interested in your impressions, so please keep them coming.

I'm looking or a TV with the "wow" factor....

I'm not coming from an Elite. I have a 70" sony that is quite old. (It had the "wow" factor in its day.
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post #536 of 1106
11/6/12 at 7:04am
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I'm interested in your impressions, so please keep them coming.
I'm looking or a TV with the "wow" factor....
I'm not coming from an Elite. I have a 70" sony that is quite old. (It had the "wow" factor in its day.

Is it a Qualia?
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post #537 of 1106
11/6/12 at 7:43am
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Is it a Qualia?[/quote

]No, its a Sony KDF-70XBR950.... An old rear projection TV.

I was an early adopter and one of the first to have a 70" TV.

Its old and tired now.
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post #538 of 1106
11/6/12 at 8:08am
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Is it a Qualia?[/quote
]No, its a Sony KDF-70XBR950.... An old rear projection TV.
I was an early adopter and one of the first to have a 70" TV.
Its old and tired now.

Wow! You still have the old 3-LCD 70". The 60" was my first HD TV, so long ago. You've certainly gotten your money's worth out of that set.
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post #539 of 1106
11/6/12 at 8:10am
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I'm interested in your impressions, so please keep them coming.
I'm looking or a TV with the "wow" factor....
I'm not coming from an Elite. I have a 70" sony that is quite old. (It had the "wow" factor in its day.

If you are happy with the 70" size, you can buy the 70" Sharp for close to $2K these days. That's a heck of a deal in my opinion. I look at the 90" in Best Buy but when I get home and watch my 70", it still looks very good to me.
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post #540 of 1106
11/6/12 at 8:40am
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Wow! You still have the old 3-LCD 70". The 60" was my first HD TV, so long ago. You've certainly gotten your money's worth out of that set

If you are happy with the 70" size, you can buy the 70" Sharp for close to $2K these days. That's a heck of a deal in my opinion. I look at the 90" in Best Buy but when I get home and watch my 70", it still looks very good to me.

I did get my money's worth out of it. The only cost in all these years has been a couple of lamps....

It is now exhibiting a problem. A blue discoloration at the top edge of the screen.

Again, this TV had a wow factor back then.... Long ago.

I want a wow factor again. Size, quality, and 3D.....

I wonder if there is a set that will provide that. The 90" SHARP.
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