Just some info I found about Yamaha Aventage Receivers

Maybe everyone knows this but since my RX-A710 went bad I did some researching because I can't get another 710 as they're sold out. I can get a RX-V671 or a RX-A810.

Heres what I found out. Before Aventage seriers receivers came out, Yamaha had the Digital Top Art feature which was higher grade parts, higher grade design, and noise reducing circuits. This Top Art Design was carried on previous RX-V665 and up models for the RX-V*65 series (2010 model).

The Aventage design replaced the Digital Top Art design, as it seems in name only, to more easily name which models had the higher quality build.

So the 2010 model RX-V665 was replaced by the 2011 model, the RX-A700. The RX-V667 was not a direct replacement for the RX-V665 as it dropped the Digital Top Art performance design to keep cost down, but with added features.

Now the RX-V667, RX-V867, RX-V671 and RX-V871 models do not have the better Digital Top Art Design and share the same circuit designs as the lower models with discrete amplifier circuits.

I have owned a RX-V793, RX-V995, and RX-V2095 that have all had the Digital Top Art Design previously but was considering the RX-V671 since the RX-A710 is no longer available. I really don't want to go down in audio performance so this was very enlightening.

But they're not the same. The Aventage/Digital Top Art design has circuit and structure differences, it's a known fact. I just didn't realize that the new RX-V667 above and later year models, dropped that Digital Top Art Feature since they redesigned them without that feature, creating a new receiver line with that feature, called the Aventage. Previously you just had to see if the receiver had the Digital Top Art Design now it's easier as they renamed all the receivers with this feature as an Aventage receiver with the prefix RX-A instead of RX-V. Much easier to tell which receivers have that performance design now.

If those earlier HTR models had Digital Top Art, then they were the equivalent, which many did. Now that Yamaha has dropped the feature label and actually started renaming the series that has this feature, for sure this Digital Top Art Design is not not offered in the newer RX-Vs including the RX-V871 and RX-V671.

Not saying that they're not good, or even if it's audible, but to some it may be. Just saying that their chassis doesn't off the better noise and vibration dampening, parts are of lower grade (I'm an electronic Tech so I know about how this makes a difference), and circuits designs are slightly different as each DAC in the Aventage series has a separate ground. That means less chance of ground loops which can bring interference and noise.

BTW, there is no such thing as a RX-V1071. The RX-V series stops at the RX-V871.

If you're talking about another country, I have no idea since this is an English speaking forum, I'm going by the USA, and normally Canada models.

They are not claims, tear one apart. Yamaha could not make such false claims as that is frawd and they could legally be held accountable for such fraudulent claims.

The chassis is in itself evidence are they are different as a simple look can tell this.

Wow, sounds like a lot of anti-Yamaha bias here. Sorry just stating the facts.

All I was saying with this new thread is that the technology has changed it's name or labeling to make it more clear as to what receivers have this performance technology. I think this is a much better way to differentiate the models with this peformance than needing to see if they have the Digital Top Art design.

Yep, my old RX-V2095 is still doing Stereo duties at my buddies house.

Yamaha does seem to have a high percentage of defective receivers out of the box. Looks like their quality control has been pretty bad since 2000. Back in the 90's, their receivers were solid out of the box. Since 2000, this is now the 3rd defective receiver out of the box I received. It isn't confidence inspiring.

My new RX-A710 is bad out of the box with defective video conversion circuitry. My options right now are a RX-V671 (for which I did the research to find the info mentioned) or an RX-A810 or a Denon AVR-2312Ci. the Denon is very limited in connections so it's not completely compatible with my system with out the additions of an external input switching box. For that matter, either is the AVR-3312CI. Denon has gone way downhill since my AVR-3803.

No, I'm sour against them all. I'm an equal opportunity hater.

Just not happy with so many limitations on the new receivers. Hard to find any that are compatible with all of my equipment. Yamaha is the only one so far, other than the ONkyo TX-NR*09 series which was plagued with trouble.

Unfortunately no, the RX-V871 (look under technology tab) does not have Digital Top Art as does the RX-V765 (look under technology tab) as seen by the technology feature all the way at the bottom of the page.

Once you get a good one, they last. My one friend is still using the RX-V2095 I sold him.

Another friend just sold the late 90's RX-V793 I sold him along with his floor standing Polk speakers.

Then I re-aquired my first True Dolby "Prologic" (NOT Dolby Surround) receiver I had by Technics from the mid 90s from the friend I sold the RX-V2095 to, as a good will jester for setting up his home theater. Then I sold that Technic's receiver along with some retired Infinity bookshelf speakers and a Sony Subwoofer to my friend who originally had the RX-V793. I had the RX-V2095, Infinity bookshelf speakers and Sony Subwoofer as a bedroom audio/video system, but stopped using it so it went up for sale.

My original RX-V995 was sold back to the dealer through a trade up program for the RX-V2095. I had it about a year.

The RX-V2095 is still operating in my friends system.

The RX-V793 was part of my other friends system up until about 5 years ago when he sold it.

The Technics is still operating as part of my friends new system.

No way in hell am I selling my Denon AVR-3803. This receiver is just awesome, but not necessarily easy to use with the wife after I converted everything to HDMI for the new LED LCD TV. After we move, it will be used in a secondary theater system and primary audio system.

Right now I'm trying to get a Yamaha RX-V671 at a very steeply discounted price compared to my defective RX-A710. That's if they can find me one. Or I may get a Denon AVR-2312CI but it's limited in connections but does have better I/P scaling and Audissey EQ XT.

If I can get the RX-V671 for the price I'm hoping, it will be a bargain I'll likely not see for many many years. I can get a good deal on the Denon but not nearly as good as the Yamaha. With upcoming expensive necessities, the Denon must be at a price to good to pass up and right now it's not.

Ah yes, I'm trying to buy a RX-V671 even without the (PREVIOUS) Digital Top Art Design or newly renamed Aventage performance package. If the price is right, I'm willing to accept a bit more noise and interference.

Denon groups all their connections together for fewer actual inputs. Example: Each digital audio connection, each HDMI connection, each analog analog audio connection, each analog composite video connection, and each analog component video connection must be grouped to "1" individual "input".

Yamaha doesn't group so there is many more actual inputs to connect more equipment. Each HDMI connection is 1 input separate from the analog composite video connections (which each are their own inputs) and each component video connection. The same is true for audio connections, HDMI connections, digital audio connections, and analog audio connections are not grouped together on the same input, they are each on separate inputs.

The Denon has 8 actual inputs: BD, DVD, CABLE, TV, DVR, DOCK, CD, AUX, GAME 1, GAME 2.

The Yamaha RX-V710 or RX-V671 has 14 actual inputs: HDMI 1, HDMI 2, HDMI 3, HDMI 4, HDMI 5, V-AUX, AV1, AV2, AV3, AV4, AV5, AV6, AUDIO 1, AUDIO 2, PLUS has AV OUT along with a second AUDIO OUT. Denon lacks the second AUDIO OUT so I'll have to use an external switch box.

However the Denon could be more flexible based on the equipments connection needs. Example: if more than 2 inputs are needed with composite video and analog audio connections. The Denon provides 3 while the Yamaha provides 2.

Just talked to my Dealer. They were all sold out of the RX-V671 and the RX-A710 had a substantial wait from back order.

So I was able to get the price I wanted on the Denon AVR-2312Ci. In fact most had dropped their prices in anticipation of the new models. I was able to get even a lower price than most.

I was able to get a much much better price reduction than I did on my AVR-3803 and was able to get the AVR-2312CI for just $100 more than the Yamaha RX-A710.

The new Yamaha RX-V673 is pretty nice finally adding Air Play, a full I/P scaler, 4K upscaling and pass through, and a better YPAO system. The RX-V773WA multi-point YPAO is similar to denon with 8 positions. Of course prices went up where a RX-V673 would cost the same as the AVR-2312CI did me.

So I'm pretty happy I only had to go down 1 step from the AVR-3803's replacement, the AVR-3312CI.