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post #31 of 35
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post


you might not want to use this example...

hint: there's a reason why the pstn was designed around 64kbps channels...

Interesting Expand on this please?
post #32 of 35
^^^

sure... the pstn (public switched telephone network, for those not familiar with the acronym), was developed around 64kbps channels because the bell labs guys determined that the resolution needed to recognize another humans voice reliably is an 8k sample rate with 8 bit resolution...

note how low the sampling/resolution is... this is why i pointed out that using human voice recognition isn't a good example for those who would like to convince others that audiophile minutia matters...

as an aside, this is why 56k modems were the "standard"... it's what would "fit" on the pstn...
post #33 of 35
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So you disagree? It's some what easy to recognize recorded voices years apart? Of course if they are the extremely close it would be difficult but that isn't the topic at hand. Rather one can only identify a sound for a few seconds.

sure, you can recognize them years apart... but again, not the subject at hand...

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How do all these threads about receivers end up talking about amplifiers? Receivers are much more than an amplifier and should be easy to tell the difference between them when listening.
post #34 of 35
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

note how low the sampling/resolution is... this is why i pointed out that using human voice recognition isn't a good example for those who would like to convince others that audiophile minutia matters...

On the premise that all differences are minutia... clearly not always the case. You agree one can recognize differences years apart... it's only how much of a difference it requires (for each person) that is open to debate. Sorry, I might be off topic but my only subject at hand is/was...

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Aural memory is something in the area of several seconds.
post #35 of 35
You should go listen to the yamahas in the higher end line. If you can swing the aventage models, that's where I would begin my search. These are very musical avr's. I'm a bit surprised you did not like the sound of your Denon however. Have you looked at higher end denons like the 3x or 4x series CI series?
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