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post #1111 of 1889
2/9/13 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Jolly View Post

Hey All,

This is my first post. I am looking to get the rxv673 but I am trying to figure out how to best connect it to my network. I am looking to potentially upgrade by wireless signal in my house by turning off the wireless feature on my At&t uverse modem (2wire) and use an airport extreme base station for my wireless router to improve signal in my home. I am then trying to figure if I could use an airport express placed near by entertainment system and I could just hook an ethernet cable from the 673 to the express directly instead of getting the yamaha yam-10 wireless adapter. Would this work? Or would be better off using something else. With so many wireless devices in the house (tablets, computers, phones, printers) and then other devices to hook up like receivers, tvs, BD players, gaming, etc...I ams trying figure the best way to hook it all up and not clutter the wireless signal in the home. Any advice? I am not very knowledgable in all this. Thanks!

Can't help with the airport base station (seems like it would work fine but is expensive for this use) but, as I mentioned previously, one can save quite a bit of money by going with the Belkin Universal wireless adapter (which works via Ethernet directly just like the Yamaha YWA-10BL). It's about half the price of either the Apple or Yamaha adapters and I would bet the Belkin and the Yamaha have very similar internals. I have been using these and they work perfectly and have very strong reception.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O88CUS/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00
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post #1112 of 1889
2/10/13 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Mike Jolly View Post

Hey All,

This is my first post. I am looking to get the rxv673 but I am trying to figure out how to best connect it to my network. I am looking to potentially upgrade by wireless signal in my house by turning off the wireless feature on my At&t uverse modem (2wire) and use an airport extreme base station for my wireless router to improve signal in my home. I am then trying to figure if I could use an airport express placed near by entertainment system and I could just hook an ethernet cable from the 673 to the express directly instead of getting the yamaha yam-10 wireless adapter. Would this work? Or would be better off using something else. With so many wireless devices in the house (tablets, computers, phones, printers) and then other devices to hook up like receivers, tvs, BD players, gaming, etc...I ams trying figure the best way to hook it all up and not clutter the wireless signal in the home. Any advice? I am not very knowledgable in all this. Thanks!



The airport express will work great. That is how I am connected to the receiver. Using ethernet cable from airport express to receiver. Found out that apple TV will not work as a wireless network connection as it cannot be put in bridged mode. Check link below for more info.

http://www.tireddonkey.com/files/EthernetBridge.html
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post #1113 of 1889
2/10/13 at 10:35am
Tried to test out this setup this afternoon, and found out that zone 2 only supports the analog audio inputs or the network sources, so playing the appletv on zone 2 at all is a no go. I did confirm that airplay can output to both zones simultaneously, even without party mode. It looks like using an iphone or other airplay device as a source is the best option for playing back music on both zones
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post #1114 of 1889
2/10/13 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by JD NC View Post

I did confirm that airplay can output to both zones simultaneously, even without party mode. It looks like using an iphone or other airplay device as a source is the best option for playing back music on both zones

Hmm, I have an Android phone. I wonder if DLNA has similar operation.

Surely I can find a way to send the same signal to two inputs. I think I saw a post somewhere (maybe not here) where they jumpered the audio outputs to another set of inputs. Perhaps you can send an analog signal to AV5, assign that to zone 2, then jumper the zone 2 audio outs to AV6 and assign that to zone 1? Or input to AV5 and assign it zone 1, jumper AV OUT to AV6 and assign that to zone 2?

If your input is HDMI, could you still use AV OUT and jumper it to AV5 or 6, which you could assign to zone 2? Maybe HDCP will prevent breaking the audio out of the digital loop, but I'm hoping this would only apply to copy protected material (i.e. most music would be fine).

I've used a lot of question marks because I've had to return my faulty unit. I'll have to wait about a week to try my ideas. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but this seems like a solvable problem.
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post #1115 of 1889
2/10/13 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Jolly View Post

Hey All,

This is my first post. I am looking to get the rxv673 but I am trying to figure out how to best connect it to my network. I am looking to potentially upgrade by wireless signal in my house by turning off the wireless feature on my At&t uverse modem (2wire) and use an airport extreme base station for my wireless router to improve signal in my home. I am then trying to figure if I could use an airport express placed near by entertainment system and I could just hook an ethernet cable from the 673 to the express directly instead of getting the yamaha yam-10 wireless adapter. Would this work? Or would be better off using something else. With so many wireless devices in the house (tablets, computers, phones, printers) and then other devices to hook up like receivers, tvs, BD players, gaming, etc...I ams trying figure the best way to hook it all up and not clutter the wireless signal in the home. Any advice? I am not very knowledgable in all this. Thanks!

I am using this setup and it works just fine. I have the Airport Extreme (with gigabit ports) in my computer room and ran a CAT 5 cable to the entertainment center. At the entertainment center I have a D-Link 5 port gigabit switch ($36/Amazon) and have my RX-V673, Dish Network VIP622, and Apple TV plugged into the switch. All devices function normally. The RX-V673 shows up on the network as an Air Play device. Piece of cake that "just works."

I don't have u-verse so one caveat though. The 2Wire u-verse wireless router cannot be placed into bridged mode meaning it still performs router functions. This means you get double NAT (network access translation) between the 2Wire and the Airport Extreme. I have read some user reports of issues in this configuration.
Edited by lkrupp - 2/10/13 at 3:34pm
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post #1116 of 1889
2/11/13 at 6:50am
I'm having this same issue. I've tried turning DHCP off and using static IP and DNS but there is no solution. I've wired the receiver directly into my modem as well as through my router with no difference.

What am i doing wrong?

When setting up the Network IP Configuration from the receiver what should the IP address be? Also, what should the default gateway and DNS be? Are these found by going into the router settings and looking at LAN or WAN? Lastly, I read somewhere that I should add the IP address to the DMZ, which I've done along with enabling and disabling the firewall... No avail.

Any help would be appreciated as I'm not sure what I'm doing.

Thanks
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post #1117 of 1889
2/11/13 at 9:49am
Yamaha RX-V673 = $399. Excellent Price IMO!
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post #1118 of 1889
2/11/13 at 10:54am
Nice deal on the 673....anybody have any experience with that seller?

Is the Warranty affected?
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post #1119 of 1889
2/11/13 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by seriousjack85 View Post

Yamaha RX-V673 = $399. Excellent Price IMO!

Wow, great find here. Seller looks to be Buy.com ("sold by: Buy.com") and the good news is Buy.com is listed on Yamaha's web site as an authorized Internet retailer so factory warranty should be unaffected.

Budget shipping and a promo code bring the total price to $399.95. Promo code ends 2/15.

Can't think of a reason why not to order this. Thanks for the info!!
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post #1120 of 1889
2/11/13 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by Johnny Bananas View Post

Wow, great find here. Seller looks to be Buy.com ("sold by: Buy.com") and the good news is Buy.com is listed on Yamaha's web site as an authorized Internet retailer so factory warranty should be unaffected.

Budget shipping and a promo code bring the total price to $399.95. Promo code ends 2/15.

Can't think of a reason why not to order this. Thanks for the info!!

Also if you have a Discover card, you get 5% back through Buy/Rakuten and an extra year on your warranty. So you would essentially be getting it for $380.
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post #1121 of 1889
2/11/13 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by seriousjack85 View Post

Yamaha RX-V673 = $399. Excellent Price IMO!

Thanks! 1 on order now! They charged tax so it came to 427.95.

Must be in Illinois....
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post #1122 of 1889
2/11/13 at 2:41pm
I'm curious if any one knows what specific model of DACs this uses?
http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/audio-ic/audio-dac-product.page

If you filter on 24bit/192kz, 8 channel, only a few come up. I've seen some references that other Yamaha receivers use the PCM 1680. But, since it's been confirmed that this unit does support DSD, only one of them supports DSD that fit those other requirements. However, it seems that most convert DSD to PCM, and use just a standard PCM DAC (like the 1680). My question is, if that's the case, what chip would be doing the DSD->PCM conversion? Seems odd that they'd add another part just to support that. Perhaps the HDMI receiver has a DSD->PCM conversion built in.
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post #1123 of 1889
2/11/13 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by Johnny Bananas View Post

The RX-V673 owners’ manual says to allow 30cm (11.8 inches) of space above the receiver and 20cm (7.9 inches) on each side for proper ventilation. I don't think that's practical, so how much space should there really be to properly vent the unit? Assume the receiver is inside a cabinet and not in a rack.

Where do you see this in the manual?
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post #1124 of 1889
2/11/13 at 6:44pm
It's on page 3 of the English safety brochure included in the PDF manual.
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post #1125 of 1889
2/11/13 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by Rudy1 View Post

It's on page 3 of the English safety brochure included in the PDF manual.
Hmm - I don't see a safety brochure on the CD that came with the receiver. I just have the owners manual. What am I missing :-S
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post #1126 of 1889
2/11/13 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by kerednai View Post

Hmm - I don't see a safety brochure on the CD that came with the receiver. I just have the owners manual. What am I missing :-S

I found it in the PDF of the manual that I downloaded from the Yamaha site.
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post #1127 of 1889
2/11/13 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

I'm curious if any one knows what specific model of DACs this uses? ... I've seen some references that other Yamaha receivers use the PCM 1680. But, since it's been confirmed that this unit does support DSD, only one of them supports DSD that fit those other requirements. However, it seems that most convert DSD to PCM, and use just a standard PCM DAC (like the 1680). My question is, if that's the case, what chip would be doing the DSD->PCM conversion? Seems odd that they'd add another part just to support that. Perhaps the HDMI receiver has a DSD->PCM conversion built in.

I don't have the service manual for the 673, but if it's the same as the 667 it uses the TI PCM1681 DAC (http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcm1681-q1.pdf).

The DAC does not accept DSD directly. It's the DSP that decodes DSD and converts it to PCM.
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post #1128 of 1889
2/11/13 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

I don't have the service manual for the 673, but if it's the same as the 667 it uses the TI PCM1681 DAC (http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcm1681-q1.pdf).

The DAC does not accept DSD directly. It's the DSP that decodes DSD and converts it to PCM.

Thanks. I was trying to find info on DSD to PCM conversion algorithms, but didn't seem to find anything. I wonder what PCM format it converts to? 24bit 96kHz? higher/lower? I assume when you play an SACD via HDMI, it'll just show DSD on the display and not much else (at least that's how my Onkyo works).
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post #1129 of 1889
2/11/13 at 8:59pm
Sorry, don't know what the PCM sampling rate is.
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post #1130 of 1889
2/11/13 at 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by DeadEd View Post

Just purchased the v673 from Video-Only yesterday for $499. So far so good. Never had an AV receiver before, this one replaces the Onkyo receiver I bought in 1987. MUCH better! I plan to hook it up to my new Samsung 3D BD/DVD this weekend and my new 70" Sharp 3D TV. I bought it mostly for the 2 zones, network functionality, iPad apps, and airplay. I'm also psyched about the pass through so the kids can watch TV/DVD without having to turn the whole system on but I have not figured out how to get this to work yet. I have a lot of reading to do this week.

DeadEd or anyone else that can help, please point me in the direction of the section of the v673 manual that speaks to the "pass through" DeadEd mentions..
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post #1131 of 1889
2/12/13 at 5:40am
Hi to everyone, i hope someone can help me. I know this is the official 673 thread but my ampli is the older 671 (similar to 673) and hopefully someone has already heard about my problem.
I connected the xbox to my 671 via HDMI port. I noticed that sometimes the video blinks or flickers, just for a moment...like a noise or an interference.
I changed the hdmi cable, I tried another HMDI port but the problem is not solved. Strangely if I use the 671 in standby and pass-through mode the video is ok...If I turn on the ampli the problem reappears.
Ah, the MySky and BD player video signals are perferct (also via HDMI)...
Help! can someone help me? Valerio
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post #1132 of 1889
2/12/13 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by jmsalt1 View Post

DeadEd or anyone else that can help, please point me in the direction of the section of the v673 manual that speaks to the "pass through" DeadEd mentions..

Look for HDMI Standby Through on page 97 of the 673 manual. Once enabled, one of the HDMI inputs will be passed through to the TV even when the receiver is off. But you still have to select which HDMI input to pass through, so if you left it on the wrong HDMI input when you switched the receiver off, the next user will still have to select the input they want, so it's not foolproof. You can however change HDMI inputs without turning on the receiver.

Also I think you have to make sure HDMI Control (page 96) is turned off to use the Standby Through feature.
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post #1133 of 1889
2/12/13 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by Rudy1 View Post

I found it in the PDF of the manual that I downloaded from the Yamaha site.

Thanks!! These dimensions are truly insane... The receiver is only 6 3/4" tall, so that's nearly twice the height in clearance. Its 17 1/8" wide, so that's about the same in gap as the width of the receiver..
I was looking to create a custom AV cabinet and was planning to leave 2" all around which I thought would be plenty. I think I will re-design it a bit, maybe increasing to 4" above the receiver and 2" for each side.
I honestly thought that had to be a typo lol
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post #1134 of 1889
2/12/13 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by kerednai View Post

Thanks!! These dimensions are truly insane... The receiver is only 6 3/4" tall, so that's nearly twice the height in clearance. Its 17 1/8" wide, so that's about the same in gap as the width of the receiver..
I was looking to create a custom AV cabinet and was planning to leave 2" all around which I thought would be plenty. I think I will re-design it a bit, maybe increasing to 4" above the receiver and 2" for each side.
I honestly thought that had to be a typo lol
Looked at the Denon 2113 manual and that says 12" all around.. So certainly not a typo.
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post #1135 of 1889
2/12/13 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by seriousjack85 View Post

Yamaha RX-V673 = $399. Excellent Price IMO!

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Originally Posted by wader2k View Post

Thanks! 1 on order now! They charged tax so it came to 427.95.

Must be in Illinois....


Unbelievable! Free budget shipping is pretty good.

Ordered yesterday afternoon.....the receiver just showed up at my door!
Less than 24 hours later!!!!
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post #1136 of 1889
2/12/13 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by kerednai View Post

Thanks!! These dimensions are truly insane... The receiver is only 6 3/4" tall, so that's nearly twice the height in clearance. Its 17 1/8" wide, so that's about the same in gap as the width of the receiver..
I was looking to create a custom AV cabinet and was planning to leave 2" all around which I thought would be plenty. I think I will re-design it a bit, maybe increasing to 4" above the receiver and 2" for each side.
I honestly thought that had to be a typo lol

I'm guessing the space requirement is based on having the receiver run "hot" with all channels full blast.
I'm pulling back on the dimensions for my cabinet space as well (custom), mostly because I'm leaving the front and back open for airflow. Top will be 6" of open space and 3" for left and right. That should be good enough. I'm sure many others have this unit in much tighter spaces... only time will tell what the effects will be on the receiver. I believe heat reduces the total life. Then again, good excuse to upgrade every 3 years... wink.gif
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post #1137 of 1889
2/12/13 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by wader2k View Post


Unbelievable! Free budget shipping is pretty good.

Ordered yesterday afternoon.....the receiver just showed up at my door!
Less than 24 hours later!!!!

Agreed, I ordered yesterday and it's scheduled for delivery tomorrow. That's what I call "budget" shipping!
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post #1138 of 1889
2/12/13 at 2:33pm
RX-V675 and RX-V475 New Product Bulletins are up on the BrandsMart USA website.

RX-V675 NPB (link)

RX-V475 NPB (link)
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post #1139 of 1889
2/12/13 at 2:44pm
Unless I missed it, I don't see much new in the 675 vs the 673, MHL being the only new thing I see.
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post #1140 of 1889
2/12/13 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

Unless I missed it, I don't see much new in the 675 vs the 673, MHL being the only new thing I see.

Here is the same bullitin but for the 673. Rear panel layout is different, and the new model is a little over 1 pound lighter in weight. hmm. Wonder where the weight savings comes from. Power is rated 15w higher on new model but dynamic power is the same so it must be down to manipulating the specs somehow.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CGQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.excelia-hifi.cz%2Fyamaha%2Fdata%2Fyamaha-rx-v673.pdf&ei=ysYaUa2EH6q80QHGrIDYAw&usg=AFQjCNGl3ksH5m8yCQo4kKc6nseXoFaL7g&bvm=bv.42261806,d.dmQ

edit...I transposed the numbers on the weight. There is only .4 pounds difference between the two.
Edited by Flatliner - 2/12/13 at 5:32pm
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