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Does Brandsmart put together these pdfs? I searched their site, and didn't come up with anything. Where do you go to search for these?

The layout is different, but doesn't look like anything has been added or removed. The layout on the 673 is cleaner and makes a bit more sense.
Edited by oryan_dunn - 2/12/13 at 3:32pm
post #1142 of 3379
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

Does Brandsmart put together these pdfs?
No, they are from Yamaha.

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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

Where do you go to search for these?
Adobe DOC towards end of page . . . http://www.brandsmartusa.com/ProductViewer.aspx?mid=165620
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post #1143 of 3379
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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

No, they are from Yamaha.


Adobe DOC towards end of page . . . http://www.brandsmartusa.com/ProductViewer.aspx?mid=165620
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Thanks... would be nice if Yamaha just hosted them on their site like most other companies.
post #1144 of 3379
One other notable change, at least in the U.S., appears to be that the warranty on the 673 is 24mo/ 2yrs but is 12mo/1yr on the 675...at least according to the Brandsmart pages.
post #1145 of 3379
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Look for HDMI Standby Through on page 97 of the 673 manual. Once enabled, one of the HDMI inputs will be passed through to the TV even when the receiver is off. But you still have to select which HDMI input to pass through, so if you left it on the wrong HDMI input when you switched the receiver off, the next user will still have to select the input they want, so it's not foolproof. You can however change HDMI inputs without turning on the receiver.

Also I think you have to make sure HDMI Control (page 96) is turned off to use the Standby Through feature.

Thanks, I found it w/ your help!
post #1146 of 3379
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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

RX-V675 and RX-V475 New Product Bulletins are up on the BrandsMart USA website.

It's hard to see what they could have added this year. HDMI 2.0 is not ready. Wonder if the price will be the same or lower.
post #1147 of 3379
^^^
You beat me to it smile.gif
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

It's hard to see what they could have added this year. HDMI 2.0 is not ready. Wonder if the price will be the same or lower.

Well, the list price on brandsmart is $650
http://www.brandsmartusa.com/ProductViewer.aspx?mid=165620
post #1149 of 3379
That was the MSRP of the 673, so probably the price is unchanged.
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First post, novice enthusiast.

I tried reading the entire first thread along with this one, but was so bored with seeing posts about the top secret 671 to 673 upgrade deal I skipped a few pages. Sorry.

I picked up the 673 last week. I am very happy with it. Everything is hooked up and working correctly. No issues there, my problem is sound. I am having a very hard time getting a satisfactory sound while watching TV and DVD's/Blu Rays. The only thing that sounds good to me is 7ch. When I run anything else, it sounds tinny and boxy if that makes sense. My old AVR was a Pioneer 1019AH, great unit. Sounded awesome, but wouldn't pass 3D.

My set up:

Samsung UN65ES8000 (hdmi and optical)
V673 (hdmi)
Sony 3D blu ray (hdmi)
Xbox 360 (hdmi)
PS3 slim (hdmi)
Wii (hdmi)
Hd Cable box (hdmi)
PS2 (Component and optical)
8 bit Nintendo (hell yeah) hooked up via RCA
Harmony One remote working perfectly with everything.

My speakers ar all old and ALL need upgraded, but this is what I have now.
Klipsch center channel (not sure on the model)
Front - JBL N24
Surround - JBL N24
Single rear - JBL N Center -II
2 - Sony 12" subwoofers 300W I think.

Should I set my speakers to small?
What sound field and what settings? I read the entire manual, 2x, and played with it for 3 hours last night. I just couldn't find that happy setting.

My room is 20'x20' and have the N24's in the corners, not the best, but I'm a novice. Sorry. That is where the builder of the house ran the wiring. Should I pick up some new fronts and use the front N24's as the "presence" speakers? I found a set of these on CL..... Under $300 is probably my budget. I'd be happier closer to $200.

RM30 - Satellites | Polk Audio®

I would like to pick up a set to hang on either side of the TV.

I have some JBL N26's I was going to throw on some speaker stands and put them by the TV for now to just try out the presence setting, but I really need to hang something on the wall.
post #1151 of 3379
Hi Guys,

I'm a newbie in the world of Home Theaters. I just got my Yamaha 673 receiver and I've been enjoying it very much! I have a question though. Last night I played some music and noticed that I was not getting any sound from the subwoofer (Polk Audio PSW10 http://www.polkaudio.com/products/psw10), so I raised the volume and then the subwoofer came to life, I then lowered the volume and it was ok for a while. After some minutes I noticed the same thing, repeated the same procedure and worked. What I'm wondering if this issue is related to the subwoofer or the receiver? Any ideas?

Thanks!
Edited by gamesbond - 2/13/13 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

Should I set my speakers to small?
What sound field and what settings? I read the entire manual, 2x, and played with it for 3 hours last night. I just couldn't find that happy setting.

Yes, definitely makes sure all speakers are set as small. The bass crossover frequency for those speakers should be at least 100Hz, so check that. And then turn up the subwoofer level until you're satisfied with the amount of bass (and turn up the volume on the sub itself if you need to). Play music with plenty of bass while you're doing that.

And 7-channel stereo is to be avoided for movies, because you don't get proper surround sound. Try PLIIx Movie instead, and turn up the level on the surrounds a couple of dBs if you want to.

Also I don't know if you ran YPAO, but it doesn't necessarily improve things. Turn off the YPAO EQ (set it to Through) to see if that sounds better.
post #1153 of 3379
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Originally Posted by gamesbond View Post

Hi Guys,

I'm a newbie in the world of Home Theaters. I just got my Yamaha 673 receiver and I've been enjoying it very much! I have a question though. Last night I played some music and noticed that I was not getting any sound from the subwoofer, so I raised the volume and then the subwoofer came to life, I then lowered the volume and it was ok for a while. After some minutes I noticed the same thing, repeated the same procedure and worked. What I'm wondering if this issue is related to the subwoofer or the receiver? Any ideas?

Thanks!
That is the auto on feature of your sub working. The sub is not coming on until it gets a significant signal. If you want it to work when listening down low the simplest thing to do is just turn it to "on" instead of "standby".
post #1154 of 3379
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Originally Posted by wader2k View Post

Thanks! 1 on order now! They charged tax so it came to 427.95.

Must be in Illinois....

I'm wondering how you were able to do this. I could not find any place to insert the coupon code as I tried to check out, so I called Rakuten, and they said they could not honor a third party offer. The price would be $599. Am I missing something?
post #1155 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

That is the auto on feature of your sub working. The sub is not coming on until it gets a significant signal. If you want it to work when listening down low the simplest thing to do is just turn it to "on" instead of "standby".

If you want to keep the auto-on feature active, you can control the gain on the LFE signal on the receiver side, and turn down the subwoofer gain on the subwoofer side to compensate. When i first ran YPAO, it turned my LFE channel way down and I had the same problem. Moving the LFE channel back to 0dB and manually adjusting the sub volume fixed it for me.
post #1156 of 3379
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Originally Posted by korkster View Post

I'm wondering how you were able to do this. I could not find any place to insert the coupon code as I tried to check out, so I called Rakuten, and they said they could not honor a third party offer. The price would be $599. Am I missing something?

I followed the link. It went to a place called gadgetar. On the Gadgetar page right under the price is a box that says Rakuten(Buy.com). I clicked on this box and it took me to the Rakuten site with the 673.

My wife actually made the purchase at home so I don't know the details, but she managed to go thru the purchase on Rakuten with the coupon code no problem. I know at least one other person did this also.

I think I see what is going on here. Rakuten is kinda like Amazon with multiple sellers. When I did it it said Ships from/Sold from Buy.com. Now it says OneCall. I think Rakuten sold out and it is listing other sellers now.
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Thanks I'll try that!
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

8 bit Nintendo (hell yeah) hooked up via RCA

It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.
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Should I set my speakers to small?

Probably. Are your subs wired to run off the LFE input? If so, set all speakers to small and set the crossover to 80Hz. If your satellites can handle lower frequencies, you can move the crossover freq down some. Everything above the cutoff will go to your satellites, and everything below goes to the sub. Don't set it much higher than 80Hz or you'll be able to hear the location of your subwoofer, which could screw up your surround sound.
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What sound field and what settings? I read the entire manual, 2x, and played with it for 3 hours last night. I just couldn't find that happy setting.

I'm boring - I like Standard for movies, and 2 Channel Stereo or 7 Channel Stereo for music. For the high resolution NES audio, though, I think the Hall in Munich sound field really brings out the soundstage on those classic Koji Kondo compositions. smile.gif
post #1159 of 3379
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Yes, definitely makes sure all speakers are set as small. The bass crossover frequency for those speakers should be at least 100Hz, so check that. And then turn up the subwoofer level until you're satisfied with the amount of bass (and turn up the volume on the sub itself if you need to). Play music with plenty of bass while you're doing that.

And 7-channel stereo is to be avoided for movies, because you don't get proper surround sound. Try PLIIx Movie instead, and turn up the level on the surrounds a couple of dBs if you want to.

Also I don't know if you ran YPAO, but it doesn't necessarily improve things. Turn off the YPAO EQ (set it to Through) to see if that sounds better.

Thank you for the help.

I ran YPAO, and it put all of my speakers to large. It's funny, every time I run it I get different settings. I did set the EQ to "through" as well. I am still trying to get the hang of what can be "on" or "off" to use certain settings. I had another person tell me to use PLllx Movie, but I can not get that as a choice. The only things that I can choose are "Auto", PLllx Music, and "EX/ES" (not sure if those are right). I am slowly getting through the manual, but it is very difficult to follow bouncing between pages a lot......
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Originally Posted by wader2k View Post

I followed the link. It went to a place called gadgetar. On the Gadgetar page right under the price is a box that says Rakuten(Buy.com). I clicked on this box and it took me to the Rakuten site with the 673.

My wife actually made the purchase at home so I don't know the details, but she managed to go thru the purchase on Rakuten with the coupon code no problem. I know at least one other person did this also.

I think I see what is going on here. Rakuten is kinda like Amazon with multiple sellers. When I did it it said Ships from/Sold from Buy.com. Now it says OneCall. I think Rakuten sold out and it is listing other sellers now.
Thanks. I'll give it another try, but that's what I did this morning. I got well into the check out process, and still didn't see any coupon discount, so I stopped. I didn't want to complete the transaction at $599.
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Originally Posted by JD NC View Post

It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.
Probably. Are your subs wired to run off the LFE input? If so, set all speakers to small and set the crossover to 80Hz. If your satellites can handle lower frequencies, you can move the crossover freq down some. Everything above the cutoff will go to your satellites, and everything below goes to the sub. Don't set it much higher than 80Hz or you'll be able to hear the location of your subwoofer, which could screw up your surround sound.
I'm boring - I like Standard for movies, and 2 Channel Stereo or 7 Channel Stereo for music. For the high resolution NES audio, though, I think the Hall in Munich sound field really brings out the soundstage on those classic Koji Kondo compositions. smile.gif

I'm not sure if the subs are wired for LFE input. I will have to google what that even means. frown.gif
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The promo code is listed on the gagetar site, and you enter it on the last page of checkout.
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Is there a way to adjust at what volume auto level feature of the subwoofer starts working?
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Originally Posted by gamesbond View Post

Is there a way to adjust at what volume auto level feature of the subwoofer starts working?
No. Its not that simple. What kind of sub do you have?
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

I ran YPAO, and it put all of my speakers to large. It's funny, every time I run it I get different settings. I did set the EQ to "through" as well. I am still trying to get the hang of what can be "on" or "off" to use certain settings. I had another person tell me to use PLllx Movie, but I can not get that as a choice. The only things that I can choose are "Auto", PLllx Music, and "EX/ES" (not sure if those are right).

If those JBL N24s are the small bookshelf speakers I think they are, the system will not sound good with speakers set as large (because all the bass gets sent to the main speakers instead of the subwoofer). So definitely set them all to small, try the crossover at 100 or 120Hz and adjust the sub level to taste. It should sound a lot better.

You can't select PLIIx Movie because you have a 6.1 setup, but you can use PLIIx Music or EX/ES instead.
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Whats wrong with using the DSP modes?
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

The promo code is listed on the gagetar site, and you enter it on the last page of checkout.
Yeah, tried that and when I hit the add code button it tells me "invalid code." Frustrating! I really like this receiver, but not at $599. I'll give it a couple more tries, but confidence is not real high. Thanks for the help though.
post #1168 of 3379
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

Thank you for the help.

I ran YPAO, and it put all of my speakers to large. It's funny, every time I run it I get different settings. I did set the EQ to "through" as well. I am still trying to get the hang of what can be "on" or "off" to use certain settings. I had another person tell me to use PLllx Movie, but I can not get that as a choice. The only things that I can choose are "Auto", PLllx Music, and "EX/ES" (not sure if those are right). I am slowly getting through the manual, but it is very difficult to follow bouncing between pages a lot......

Ypao is great for initial setup, but I found it needed a lot of tweaking once it did the basics like setting distances.

Lfe is just a common way to wire up the sub, and is usually the easiest. The receiver sends the low frequencies to the mono LFE output (the ".1") and connects to the sub with one rca cable, while the high frequencies to the satellites (set to small so the receiver knows to cut off the lows to those speakers).

Another way to go is to set the l/r speakers to large, send both l/r outputs to the sub with speaker wire (or one to each sub in your case) and connect the l/r satellites to the outputs on the sub (or again, one to each) instead of to the receiver. As far as the receiver knows, you just hooked up two full range speakers, and the sub does the work of sending the high frequencies on to the satellites. Both methods will give you the same result, but the LFE method is a little easier to manage because it needs only one cable and makes it easier to move the sub around to find a good spot without having to move the satellite wires as well.
Edited by JD NC - 2/13/13 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by korkster View Post

Yeah, tried that and when I hit the add code button it tells me "invalid code." Frustrating! I really like this receiver, but not at $599. I'll give it a couple more tries, but confidence is not real high. Thanks for the help though.

So, my Dad just decided to get one, but the code didn't work. Turns out, Rakuten.com itself is out of stock, which is what the code would work with. Now, when you add it to cart, you just get it through one of the 3rd party sellers, and the code won't work. I told him he should have decided earlier. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Whats wrong with using the DSP modes?

Sure, people should try them and see how they sound. After I played with them all I went back to PLIIx and I never use the DSP modes.
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