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Originally Posted by ThinkRationally View Post

Some people don't like that it doesn't transcode component inputs to HDMI at resolutions above 480i, nor can it upconvert them. I solved this with a $40 component-to-HDMI converter from monoprice, although that is an extra expense. I don't need the upcoversion, though, because my TV seems to do a slightly better job of it.

The 673 has spring clips for the 2nd zone, not binding posts (the 773 has binding posts for all speaker outputs, as well as a full set of pre-outs).

YPAO doesn't EQ the subwoofer, which I thought I didn't care much about, but now wish that I had.

I'm just nit-picking, though. It's a nice receiver, especially for the price you're looking at.

Disclosure: I actually have a 773. At first I got a 673, but it was faulty and when I returned it the prices were close so I went for the 773. They are very similar, and I'm quite happy with it so far. I have no experience with Onkyo, so I cannot offer a comparison.


Thanks for the reply will probably go with the Yahama, question which one?? the spring clips would not use more then likely.
post #1472 of 3379
What WI-Fi is compatible with this receiver???? besides the $99 at amazon???? just order the 673.


Yamaha YWA-10BL Wireless Network Adapter

have wifi in the house already.


Thanks
post #1473 of 3379
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Thanks for the reply will probably go with the Yahama, question which one?? the spring clips would not use more then likely.

You can go to Yamaha's site and compare the specs for both. The 773 has multi-point YPAO. It's got two control knobs on the front, which balances the appearance, but I don't use either of them much at all (remote or phone app). Two HDMI outputs vs one. They're both good units, and if you likely won't use any of the marginal upgrades the 773 offers, the 673 will do great. I wasn't trying to up-sell you or anything--I played that game in my own head for a while biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

What WI-Fi is compatible with this receiver???? besides the $99 at amazon???? just order the 673.


Yamaha YWA-10BL Wireless Network Adapter

have wifi in the house already.


Thanks


Mine is close to my router, so I have it hard-wired. If I ever connect it wirelessly though, I think you can buy a bridge for half the price or less compared to Yamaha's 'official' wireless dongle.
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Does anyone know or can point me to the headphone out jack specs ?

I'm trying to keep the setup minimal and all my current movie and music listening is going to be through headphones until I separate it from my computer and use it with a Tv and a 7.2 channel setup.

Currently I cant run speakers until I move locations but trying to route audio from cable and a computer through a external USB Dac and headphone amp didn't seem smart versus just using the Receiver to process and route the signals.

So I'm planing on investing on a good pair of headphones but I cannot fine the headphone output spec so I know if a pair would be hard to drive or not from the RX-v673.

If I spend money on a good pair but then I need to invest in an external headphone amp it would defeat the purpose of using the receiver so knowing the ratings would help me avoid wasting money that Id rather put towards speakers and a TV a later and at that point I'd move the headphone to a dedicated music setup.
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Originally Posted by ThinkRationally View Post

You can go to Yamaha's site and compare the specs for both. The 773 has multi-point YPAO. It's got two control knobs on the front, which balances the appearance, but I don't use either of them much at all (remote or phone app). Two HDMI outputs vs one. They're both good units, and if you likely won't use any of the marginal upgrades the 773 offers, the 673 will do great. I wasn't trying to up-sell you or anything--I played that game in my own head for a while biggrin.gif
Mine is close to my router, so I have it hard-wired. If I ever connect it wirelessly though, I think you can buy a bridge for half the price or less compared to Yamaha's 'official' wireless dongle.


Thanks for the reply are we talking about something like the attached link:


http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B003KPBRRW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
post #1476 of 3379
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Thanks for the reply are we talking about something like the attached link:


http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B003KPBRRW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

That looks like it might work. There are a number of similar products on the market for this purpose. I can't comment on the quality or reliability of any of them (including Yamaha's).
post #1477 of 3379
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Originally Posted by JD NC View Post

When you change the AVR to 6 ohm mode (8 ohm is the default), the manual says you can use 4 ohm speakers as fronts. The zone 2 speakers run off the surround back channels, but the same surround back channels are also used when biamping the fronts, though, so maybe 4 ohms is OK. The manual is not clear on this at all. I'd assume 6 ohms to be safe.

It should still be fine as long as you don't run it too hard, but it sounds like zone 2 is a fairly big space if you're thinking about running 4 speakers instead of 2. How big are the speakers that you'd be connecting?

Founda solution for the speakers. So no problem there anymore.

But really......no one playing flac via dlna has a problem with pausing a track? If not, then what dlna server are you using? I've tried foobar200 dlna and Twonky.
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Thanks for the reply are we talking about something like the attached link:


http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B003KPBRRW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

There is a refurbished version if you want to save a little....

http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4/ref=pd_sim_e_8

I ordered one but haven't received it yet.
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Originally Posted by undermined View Post

Does anyone know or can point me to the headphone out jack specs ?

There are some numbers in the 673 manual, but I don't know if they are what you're looking for. It says (top of page 131):

Headphone Jack Rated Output / Impedance: 100mV / 560 ohms
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Hey guys, my Onkyo 709 fubar'd itself this morning (1st and last Onkyo product, EVER) and am in need of a new receiver ASAP. I have always had good luck with Yamaha and am going to go back. My question is, I see the 673 for $399 and the newer 675 for $599...............If you guys were me, knowing what you know about your 673, which one would you buy? I don't *mind* paying the extra $200 if it were really worth it.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
post #1481 of 3379
I would get the 673 and save the $200 or spend it on speakers or something.
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

Hey guys, my Onkyo 709 fubar'd itself this morning (1st and last Onkyo product, EVER) and am in need of a new receiver ASAP. I have always had good luck with Yamaha and am going to go back. My question is, I see the 673 for $399 and the newer 675 for $599...............If you guys were me, knowing what you know about your 673, which one would you buy? I don't *mind* paying the extra $200 if it were really worth it.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

The specs are almost identical. I think the biggest addition to the x75 line is MHL support. I'm not sure if there's a whole lot else (try Yamaha's site to compare specs). Unless you really want MHL, I'd say go for the 673 and save yourself some $$. Whatever you get, I hope you enjoy it.
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Thanks guys. I'm in full scramble mode, trying to find the differences between the 2 receivers and to me, they look damn near identical. My theater is complete, so the money saved will simply stay in my account. Have any of you had experience with comparing Audyssey and YPAO directly, and if so, what are your impressions? I'm concerned with the sub EQing.
post #1484 of 3379
I think you will have to spend quite a bit more for a receiver that EQs the sub. More than $399 anyway.
post #1485 of 3379
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

Thanks guys. I'm in full scramble mode, trying to find the differences between the 2 receivers and to me, they look damn near identical. My theater is complete, so the money saved will simply stay in my account. Have any of you had experience with comparing Audyssey and YPAO directly, and if so, what are your impressions? I'm concerned with the sub EQing.

I've only ever used YPAO. Audyssey seems to have a lot of fans, and at least some versions of it can EQ the sub. I need to upgrade my sub at some point, and I'm looking at subs or in-line devices that perform room correction. If I find the right combination at a decent price point, that'll substitute for YPAO not EQ'ing the sub. I like what YPAO offers, but I will readily admit to NOT being an expert in this area, so I'm reluctant to offer much advice beyond my personal experience.
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My understanding is that only Audyssey MultiEQ XT will eq a sub and that version only comes on higher end receivers.
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

1. Yes you need a powered sub. Small HTIB speakers will definitely need a sub. Also, the 673 probably isn't going to make your system sound much better until you replace those speakers.

2. The 673 does not support party mode (it's in the manual, it's a 773 feature only). You can get the same sound in zone 2 with the 673, but only if you add an analog audio connection from your source (so if the source is the TV using ARC, you cannot get that in zone 2). If your TV (or cable box) can output anlog audio as well, you can do it. BUT there will likely be a delay between the two zones that could produce a slight echo effect (if you can hear both zones from the same spot).

3. If you want to use WiFi you have to add a wireless access point (there's no WiFi built in).

4. No video streaming with the 673 alone. And once you add a separate media streamer you don't have to connect the 673 itself to the network if you don't want to.

5. For setup you'll probably want the original remote. The Yamaha App does not let you do everything (it's not intended for setup).



Interesting point on the "Party Mode"

So if I wanted to play music from my phone via airplay, It wouldn't send that same signal to both zone? What if I just hooked up my 5.1 system up and hooked my outdoor speakers to the other two rear speakers and put it on all speaker stereo?



If that's the case the 671 i got for 357 on Amazon and the Yamaha RX-V773-WA is $800. More than double the cost. For 800 I wouldn't go with the Yamaha RX-V773-WA probably the Denon AVR-2313CI in that price range..

Using the audio outs, I could run that to a secondary receiver and use that to power the second zone? OR could I use the audio out, and plug that into the Audio 1 IN then use that for the zone 2?
Edited by lemonslush - 4/9/13 at 10:32am
post #1488 of 3379
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Originally Posted by lemonslush View Post

Interesting point on the "Party Mode" So if I wanted to play music from my phone via airplay, It wouldn't send that same signal to both zone? What if I just hooked up my 5.1 system up and hooked my outdoor speakers to the other two rear speakers and put it on all speaker stereo?

Airplay can go to zone 2 on the 673 (you don't need Party Mode), but you'll have to try it to see whether the different delay in the two zones is noticable or not. You only need Party Mode for audio sources that use HDMI, optical or digital coax.

Putting the rear surrounds in another room and using 7 channel stereo would work, but you don't have independent volume control (you can change the relative levels of the rear speakers, but it would be a pain if you had to do that often).
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Airplay can go to zone 2 on the 673 (you don't need Party Mode), but you'll have to try it to see whether the different delay in the two zones is noticable or not. You only need Party Mode for audio sources that use HDMI, optical or digital coax.

Putting the rear surrounds in another room and using 7 channel stereo would work, but you don't have independent volume control (you can change the relative levels of the rear speakers, but it would be a pain if you had to do that often).

OK that makes me feel a lot better. I would only be having the second zone play music. Would I have to use the audio out and plug it into the adio 1 IN then assign that to zone 2 or could I just assign air play to both zones? Sorry for the novice questions I just ordered the 673 today.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

What WI-Fi is compatible with this receiver???? besides the $99 at amazon???? just order the 673.


Yamaha YWA-10BL Wireless Network Adapter

have wifi in the house already.


Thanks

Newegg has the 773 on sale today. If you want the network adapter anyways, might as well upgrade to the 773. Its $479.95 shipped.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115377

I just ordered the 673 but may go with the 773 just because.
post #1491 of 3379
IMHO when buying anything online, you have to watch not just the price but also who's supplying it. Also make sure you look at the return policy -- because you can get into a situation where you got a really smoking deal, but have to pay a restocking charge if you want to return it. If it's actually sold by Amazon (they tell you in the listing), you are pretty much guaranteed of good service (but again check the restocking policy on the particular unit). Also consider sales tax & shipping.

My present transactions have been with webdealin through eBay; they are not the absolute lowest but very competitive, have a 30 day refund policy, no restocking charge, and have been ultra-responsive in letting me return the 673 and re-order a 773. If you're in a sales tax state which is not New York, you'll be getting the deal w/o sales tax and probably free ground shipping.

I got badly burned buying a cooktop from someone back East that was never delivered -- ordered because it was $100 cheaper than one actually sold by Amazon. Reordered it from Amazon & it arrived in 4 days.
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Hi there. I have a 673 & have had it set up for a month. After reading through some of your forums, the av recieverr is in 8 ohms as factory setting?. I have checked all my speakers and they are all 6 ohms. How do I change the 673 to 6 ohms, and do you think it will make much of a difference??? Many thanks
Edited by jamcornwell - 4/9/13 at 2:13pm
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Yea, I'm spoiled with what Audyssey XT was able to do with my sub. The 773 listed above (thanks for that) has the advanced YPAO RSC, but I don't think even it will EQ my sub?
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Originally Posted by jamcornwell View Post

Hi there. I have a 673 & have had it set up for a month. After reading through some of your forums, the av recieverr is in 8 ohms as factory setting?. I have checked all my speakers and they are all 6 ohms. How do I change the 673 to 6 ohms, and do you think it will make much of a difference??? Many thanks
It may not make much of a difference but you should do it. I cant remember exactly how offhand but it is simple. You have to use the buttons on the front. It is clearly explained in the owners manual.
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I have my new Yammy RX-V673 hooked to my BD player. Before I got the 673, I had it directly connected to the TV for video through HDMI and optical for sound to my old Kenwood receiver. Since I now have it connected through my 673, I noticed that my picture is not as vivid as when it was differectly connected to my reciever. I did a comparison with the same scene (Casino Royale - Chapter 14 - Lake Como - Bond rehabilitating [very colorful scenery]). Even the wife thinks so. I have it set to DIRECT, not PROCESSING. Has anyone noticed the same thing? If I connect the BD player directly to the TV with HDMI video and audio on, will Auto Return Channel (ARC) send the lossless codecs (Doble TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, etc.) to the receiver? Thanks for the help. Love the thread...
Edited by steve>jf - 4/9/13 at 4:41pm
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No, ARC does not support lossless. In fact, it may not even send DD 5.1. Any DTS source will almost certainly be stereo. The same is true of the TV's optical output.

Are you using the same HDMI input on the TV that you used when your player was connected directly to it? I am not familiar with your receiver, but Direct sounds like an audio input setting, not video. Is there, perhaps, another setting that controls whether video is processsed or simply passed through to the display?
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Thanks for the help, BIslander. No, I am using a new HMDI cable that has the same specs as the other cable, but not the same brand. The receiver calls the video adjustments "DIRECT" or "PROCESSING". Basically, it only changes/adjusts resolution and/or aspect ratio.
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Sorry, yes I am using the same HDMI input. Misunderstood your question until I read it again.
post #1499 of 3379
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Originally Posted by jamcornwell View Post

Hi there. I have a 673 & have had it set up for a month. After reading through some of your forums, the av recieverr is in 8 ohms as factory setting?. I have checked all my speakers and they are all 6 ohms. How do I change the 673 to 6 ohms, and do you think it will make much of a difference??? Many thanks

It's in the Advanced Setup menu (page 105 in the manual). Whenever that question comes up, most people say don't bother changing it, but I don't think it will make much difference either way.
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Originally Posted by lemonslush View Post

OK that makes me feel a lot better. I would only be having the second zone play music. Would I have to use the audio out and plug it into the adio 1 IN then assign that to zone 2 or could I just assign air play to both zones? Sorry for the novice questions I just ordered the 673 today.

No extra cables required. Just select zone 2 with the remote, then select Airplay as the source and it will go to zone 2.
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