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Originally Posted by tacomaguy20 View Post

The problem is 8 didn't seem that loud for me. I think the receiver was outputing power incorrectly. I'll let you know soon.

Sounds like the Mute was on - there's no way I could handle 8. Are you meaning -8 instead of +8?
post #2342 of 3379
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Sounds like the Mute was on - there's no way I could handle 8. Are you meaning -8 instead of +8?

No I had to have the volume at 0 when I turned it on just for normal listening volume... when I watched tv etc. When I wanted to watch a movie, i'd turn it up to +8 or higher. Thats kinda why I figured something must be wrong. If you guys say that +8 would have been way to loud, then something must have been wrong with the receiver. I think i would have had a hard time hearing it at -8
post #2343 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Tomen8r View Post

I purchased yamaha rx-v673 last week. Hooked it up and things seemed well for the first few minutes or so. I then lost audio for 1.0 - 1.5 seconds. Kinda like when the signal gets lost from a station for a brief second. The receiver display would flash off then go back on. Then it happened again, and again, and another couple hundred times. It could happen once every 5 minutes, then stop, the start up again. It didn’t matter which channel I was viewing on the TV (Toshiba 50l2200u, 6 mos old). For every 10 times the audio went out, 2 of those 10 times the video went black as well for same amount of time. I replaced an Onkyo receiver and I had no issues with that still working receiver. This is strictly a Yamaha receiver issue

I have a Comcast cable box. HDMI goes from cable box to HDMI 2 then HDMI Output to TV. I tried both HDMI 1 & 2 on TV. Same results. I checked 3 HDMI cables, all HDMI high speed. I removed the Yamaha receiver and directly wired to TV from cable box with 2 of my 3 cables. Watched for 4 hours. Swap cables. Rinse and repeat. I couldn’t get the signal loss I received when the Yamaha plugged in. That ruled out 3 HDMI high speed cables and Comcast cable box.

I figured I would check HDMI CEC and ARC. Turned those off on both receiver and TV. Same thing. I Tried pure direct on the Yamaha, same thing. Tried just about every setting and I still lose audio for 1.0 – 1.5 seconds. Very frustrating. I have also tried HDMI3 and HDMI4 with same results. At first, when changing HDMI in from 2 to 3 to 4, etc., it seems to work for a while and then the issue reappears, as if heat might have something to do with it.

I then tried running the HDMI cable from cable box to HDMI 1 (blue ray / dvd). So far, I am not getting any of that signal loss. Two days of trying this. Everything is working as expected.

Question 1: Do you think it is a hardware failure on HDMI2? Hear of any tricks I can try? I did not reset the receiver at all. Anyone experience this issue?

Question 2: What is so special about HDMI1 that it is designated for blue ray? Is it a bitrate issue? Why is it designated for blue ray and dvd?

Question 3: Can I leave my cable box input on HDMI1 without any other issues? I don’t have blue ray but might get one. Can I plug blue ray into another terminal besides HDMI1? What will I lose if I do?

I am thinking it is a hardware issue. My firmware is 1.80. I do have optical cables but have not tried those.

What do you think? Anything, the smallest of feedback, might just help. Thanks, in advance,
Tom
Exchange it.
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Thank you!
post #2345 of 3379
Hey Guys,

So I recently bought this receiver and a pair of Q Acoustics 2050i's and added a sub I had spare . My plan was to have a 2.1 setup until I could afford to add the surrounds / center.

Although putting movies through it sounds great the dialogue audio is quiet even after using the dialogue adjust on the receiver, so i've decided it might be time to add a center.

I need to your advise on the following though. I'm using XBMC as my source and my films are all encoded in 5.1 / 2.1. Obviously to get dialogue to the center speaker I would need to be using 5.1 on the receiver but without having the surrounds (only having 3.1) will the receiver be able to still send the rear audio to my front speakers? By setting the receiver to 5.1 without the surrounds will I lose those any sound sent to them.

I know that there is an option to output stereo to all speakers but I don't know if this will help with my dialogue issue.

Any help would be appreciated.
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OK so for anyone that was following and helping out with my situation, my problem is resolved. Maybe this will help someone else.

To recap, I bought a used Rx673 off Amazon and the volume was way too low. I needed to have the volume set to 0 just for a normal listening volume. I kept turning it up to about +8 to get the volume to play good for movies and music. When I would listen to something at that level, the receiver would shut off (display chk speaker wires) and my center channel was blown. This happened with 3 different speakers. So I assumed my receiver was bad and sent it back and bought a new one. When my new receiver came in, I found something else out. My home theater setup is just a Media PC with HDMI out coming into the receiver. This is my only input to the receiver currently. I had to go into my windows sound playback right click on the high definition audio device (the receiver audio) and configure speakers. I think my high definition audio output from the PC was configured for stereo originally. set it up for 5.1 surround and now the volume is very acceptable range at -20 to -10. I think I went to -8 once but never got into positives again. So overall, I'm not sure if the receiver was bad or the audio settings from my computer were set to stereo output (which somehow caused abnormally low volume and the center speaker to keep blowing when I increased it). Either way, I'm happy it works. I'm going to put some pics so everyone knows the settings I'm talking about.


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Did you mention before that your only input was a PC?
post #2348 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Did you mention before that your only input was a PC?

I mentioned that it was an input, not my only input. I didn't really think that was relevant at the time. It never occured to me because my old receiver was not using hdmi for audio.
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The PC's Speaker Setup Stereo or Multi-channel shouldn't change the speaker level (to any degree) or have any harmful affects. I have used the various settings on numerous receivers without any issues.

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Hello everyone,

I have got a Yamah Rx-V673.
I tried to connect my Apple TV through the HDMI port, but I get no signal.
When I connect the Apple TV directly to my TV, it works fine.

I have google many forum, and it seem that everyone has no trouble at all on that matter.

Any help would be most welcome.

Kindly.

Duodiscuss
post #2351 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

The PC's Speaker Setup Stereo or Multi-channel shouldn't change the speaker level (to any degree) or have any harmful affects. I have used the various settings on numerous receivers without any issues.
Interesting. Ive never used a PC setup. I figured there had to be more to it than just that to blow 3 center channels. So, the mystery deepens.
post #2352 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

The PC's Speaker Setup Stereo or Multi-channel shouldn't change the speaker level (to any degree) or have any harmful affects. I have used the various settings on numerous receivers without any issues.
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Interesting. Ive never used a PC setup. I figured there had to be more to it than just that to blow 3 center channels. So, the mystery deepens.

Ok well the original receiver was probably just bad then.
post #2353 of 3379
Question: Would there be a benefit for someone with a 5.1 speaker setup to buy THIS unit as opposed to the V475 which only 5 channels but has more power per channel? I have no foreseeable use for 4k video or all of the extra HDMI inputs. I'm doing some comparison shopping and they are priced the same right now.
post #2354 of 3379
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Originally Posted by sdilley14 View Post

Question: Would there be a benefit for someone with a 5.1 speaker setup to buy THIS unit as opposed to the V475 which only 5 channels but has more power per channel? I have no foreseeable use for 4k video or all of the extra HDMI inputs. I'm doing some comparison shopping and they are priced the same right now.
There is very little difference between the 73 and 75 line. If you can get the 673 at the price of the 475 I highly suggest you get the 673.
post #2355 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

There is very little difference between the 73 and 75 line. If you can get the 673 at the price of the 475 I highly suggest you get the 673.

As far as power goes, there won't really be a noticeable difference between the 95 watts per channel the 673 is putting out as opposed to the 115 watts per channel the 475 puts out? I don't have any intentions of going the full 7.1, keeping it at 5 channels.
post #2356 of 3379
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Originally Posted by sdilley14 View Post

As far as power goes, there won't really be a noticeable difference between the 95 watts per channel the 673 is putting out as opposed to the 115 watts per channel the 475 puts out? I don't have any intentions of going the full 7.1, keeping it at 5 channels.
You are correct about the power however more is always better. You may not intend to go 7.1 now but you may in the future. And there are other differences.
The point is why would you pay the same price for an inferior receiver?
post #2357 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

You are correct about the power however more is always better. You may not intend to go 7.1 now but you may in the future. And there are other differences.
The point is why would you pay the same price for an inferior receiver?

I see what you're saying. I guess for MY personal application I didn't really see the 475 as being inferior. It has the same aesthetics, it has all the networking and HDMI capabilities as I would want (the same as the 673), but it has more power per channel for the 5 channels I intend on using. I just wanted to hear from more knowledgable/experienced people to see if there was something I may be overlooking about these two.
post #2358 of 3379
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Originally Posted by sdilley14 View Post

As far as power goes, there won't really be a noticeable difference between the 95 watts per channel the 673 is putting out as opposed to the 115 watts per channel the 475 puts out? I don't have any intentions of going the full 7.1, keeping it at 5 channels.

I don't think you're comparing apples to apples here. The 673 has more power than the 475. From the Yamaha website for the 475:

Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) 115W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 80W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms) 110/130/160/180W

And for the 673:

Rated Output Power (1kHz, 2ch driven) 105W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 90W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms) 130/170/200/240W

The middle one in both cases is the more telling. Notice that for the first line the 475 is rated with 1 channel driven, while the 673 is rated with 2 channels driven. The 20Hz-20kHz, 2 channels driven spec is a more suitable comparison. Sometimes marketing and big box advertising blur these things together.

Either way, the power difference won't really translate into an audible difference, but it will add some headroom for the 673.
post #2359 of 3379
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Originally Posted by ThinkRationally View Post

I don't think you're comparing apples to apples here. The 673 has more power than the 475. From the Yamaha website for the 475:

Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) 115W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 80W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms) 110/130/160/180W

And for the 673:

Rated Output Power (1kHz, 2ch driven) 105W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 90W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms) 130/170/200/240W

The middle one in both cases is the more telling. Notice that for the first line the 475 is rated with 1 channel driven, while the 673 is rated with 2 channels driven. The 20Hz-20kHz, 2 channels driven spec is a more suitable comparison. Sometimes marketing and big box advertising blur these things together.

Either way, the power difference won't really translate into an audible difference, but it will add some headroom for the 673.

Interesting...thank you for pointing that out!
post #2360 of 3379
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Originally Posted by sdilley14 View Post

Interesting...thank you for pointing that out!

NP. Another point is that, based on what I've read, the models in the x73 line below the 673 have an inferior on-screen interface. I have the 773, which I think has the same on-screen interface as the 673--it's not the flashiest, but it's not hard to use. Lesser/older models apparently have a very text oriented (we'll call it ugly) on-screen interface. I have no idea whether x75 line has the improved interface across all models or not, though, so the 475 may not be a problem in that regard.
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Originally Posted by ThinkRationally View Post

NP. Another point is that, based on what I've read, the models in the x73 line below the 673 have an inferior on-screen interface. I have the 773, which I think has the same on-screen interface as the 673--it's not the flashiest, but it's not hard to use. Lesser/older models apparently have a very text oriented (we'll call it ugly) on-screen interface. I have no idea whether x75 line has the improved interface across all models or not, though, so the 475 may not be a problem in that regard.

Ahhhh, good call.

And the more I think about it, the more I could see myself getting two more cheap satellite speakers and using the dual zone fucntion to listen to podcasts and things like that in kitchen while the other zone is being used for something else in the living room.
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Originally Posted by duodiscuss View Post

Hello everyone,

I have got a Yamah Rx-V673.
I tried to connect my Apple TV through the HDMI port, but I get no signal.
When I connect the Apple TV directly to my TV, it works fine.

I have google many forum, and it seem that everyone has no trouble at all on that matter.

Any help would be most welcome.

Kindly.

Duodiscuss
I have my Apple TV plugged into HDMI 3 with no problems. Which HDMI port are you using? Are other components showing up on the TV, such as the Cable Box? Try plugging Apple TV into an HDMI port that you know works for other equipment. Do you have a 1080P or 720P Apple TV?
post #2363 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Manfred Man View Post

Has anyone found the correct remote control code to program a Directv remote to control the Rx-v673 on/off and volume and mute functions?

Dealing with this now - I can't find a code that will turn the receiver both On and Off...

30376 will turn it On but not Off
31476 will turn it Off but not On

Edit - after some research, it appears there is no code that will do both On and Off:
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewpost.cgi?1205131


So I guess the solution is to have one code on AV1 for On, and one on AV2 for Off.
Edited by bigrig - 9/20/13 at 7:45pm
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Thats not uncommon. Some devices have the same command for On and Off that you just basically toggle and some have an On command and an Off command.
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Has anyone else noticed that their video is cut-off when trying to output 1920 x 1080? My TV (Panasonic P50ST30) supports it just fine when I connect my laptop directly to my TV's HDMI input, but when I go through the RX-V673 (again, through HDMI), I'm missing the outer frame of the picture. In my Windows Video Output settings, another resolution appears below 1920 x 1080, and that is 1824 x 1026...this fills the screen up perfectly. Any idea why I have to go to this slightly lower resolution?
Edited by JerryG20 - 9/21/13 at 11:28pm
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Originally Posted by JerryG20 View Post

Has anyone else noticed that their video is cut-off when trying to output 1920 x 1080? My TV (Panasonic P50ST30) supports it just fine when I connect my laptop directly to my TV's HDMI input, but when I go through the RX-V673 (again, through HDMI), I'm missing the outer frame of the picture. In my Windows Video Output settings, another resolution appears below 1920 x 1080, and that is 1824 x 1026...this fills the screen up perfectly. Any idea why I have to go to this slightly lower resolution?
On the tv you can set the aspect ratio for each HDMI input individually. Make sure it isnt different if youre using a different HDMI input.
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Ok so just when I think I got my new receiver hooked up correctly, I turn up the volume a little and it shuts off and give me the chk speaker wires message. I decide to pull out the multimeter and read the resistance across the speakers. They are all 8 ohm speakers. I get about 4.5 ohms on each until I get to the new center channel I just bought and I get .03. The speaker plays and doesn't sound blown. I'm guessing this is where the short is coming from. So what I'm thinking is that with the resistance being so low, when I turn the volume up on the receiver and that resistance is exceeded, it shorts. Does that sound about right?
post #2368 of 3379
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Originally Posted by tacomaguy20 View Post

Ok so just when I think I got my new receiver hooked up correctly, I turn up the volume a little and it shuts off and give me the chk speaker wires message. I decide to pull out the multimeter and read the resistance across the speakers. They are all 8 ohm speakers. I get about 4.5 ohms on each until I get to the new center channel I just bought and I get .03. The speaker plays and doesn't sound blown. I'm guessing this is where the short is coming from. So what I'm thinking is that with the resistance being so low, when I turn the volume up on the receiver and that resistance is exceeded, it shorts. Does that sound about right?
Yes. But its still a mystery if youve used 3 different centers. Try changing the speaker wire.
You never got the "chk speaker wire" msg with the other 673?
post #2369 of 3379
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Yes. But its still a mystery if youve used 3 different centers. Try changing the speaker wire.
You never got the "chk speaker wire" msg with the other 673?

I've already changed the speaker wire for the center channel once. I got the chk speaker wire message with my old 673 and that is what happened right when all 3 of the speakers blew. This is a new receiver and this is a new speaker similar to one I purchased before. After the chk speaker message this time it doesn't sound blown though like the previous 3. I don't know what could be my problem. I've replaced the receiver, the speaker, and the cable? Any thoughts? Maybe bad luck that I just bought a bad speaker?
post #2370 of 3379
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Originally Posted by tacomaguy20 View Post

I've already changed the speaker wire for the center channel once. I got the chk speaker wire message with my old 673 and that is what happened right when all 3 of the speakers blew. This is a new receiver and this is a new speaker similar to one I purchased before. After the chk speaker message this time it doesn't sound blown though like the previous 3. I don't know what could be my problem. I've replaced the receiver, the speaker, and the cable? Any thoughts? Maybe bad luck that I just bought a bad speaker?
I have no idea. What kind of speaker is your center? What kind of "cable" are you using?
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