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post #31 of 3398
Believe it or not, Best Buy!

I paid $599 for it - not being discounted beyond that anywhere, so I figured it was worth it for the 18 months IFC and the points!

I had an Onkyo TX-NR616, which I returned after three weeks because Onkyo could not get their act together and fix an HDMI out issue as well as the problem of not being able to turn the receiver on with the remote. I had to do something or look at a gaping hole in my entertainment center!!!

So far, so good. The GUI is not bad and YPAO is as easy as it's always been. I fixed a problem this morning with my BD player (Sony BDP-580) where it was only outputting PCM. It's giving me TrueHD now, but I will not get to test it properly until I get home from work tonight.

The main issue I have with it so far is the fact that I can't see a way to save favorites in the vTuner app. I have an email in with Yamaha for an answer on that one. The Onkyo had Slacker, Pandora and Spotify (which I couldn't get to log in), and this doesn't, but it has Airplay which should make them redundant anyway. I have to find a good way of emulating Airplay functionality with my Android phone and tablet, too.

Still have lots of playing to do before I can post a review, but so far, no major issues. Of course, 4k upconverting is a waste until the TVs become available at human pricing, but 1080p is working well, as is 3D and everything else.
post #32 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post


The main issue I have with it so far is the fact that I can't see a way to save favorites in the vTuner app.

I have the 671 and just tune in a vTuner station and Press the Memory key and then again to confirm. The station is then available to the assigned number on the remote.

I see no reason why the 673 would not work the same.

Shelly
post #33 of 3398
Thanks. I didn't notice the Memory key on the remote. I'll try it tonight.

Sometimes I wonder if the manufacturers remember that they are making products for human beings! I have had several occasions where I've needed to google an issue or 'settle' for something that doesn't work quite properly.
post #34 of 3398
Update: The memory key doesn't work, but I did find out how to save favorites.

In small print as an extra on page 69 of the PDF manual, it tells you that to register your favorites, go to the vTuner website on your PC with your MAC address. There is no way to save them directly on the unit.
post #35 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

I brought home a 673 on Saturday.
Let the party begin!!!


Does it come with a 'hard copy' User's Manual or just the CD version?

Has anyone looked at the difference(s) between the rx- v673 and the Yamaha RX a720? Would the 720 be worth the additional $100?
post #36 of 3398
Stay away from Yamaha. They got rid of pandora
post #37 of 3398
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Originally Posted by bayou7 View Post

Does it come with a 'hard copy' User's Manual or just the CD version?
Has anyone looked at the difference(s) between the rx- v673 and the Yamaha RX a720? Would the 720 be worth the additional $100?


Just like all the other manufacturers, the manual is on CD - and available from the web site as a PDF download. I would much prefer to have a printed manual, but it seems this is the latest cost-saving measure!

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Originally Posted by marine0816 View Post

Stay away from Yamaha. They got rid of pandora

Really? This is a reason to stay away? The vTuner option offers over 8000 internet radio stations, so Pandora is not necessarily relevant anyway, but it could be streamed using Airplay, I believe.
post #38 of 3398
Guindalf,
Have you been able to do a test of the receiver yet? I am very interested in getting this, but I don't want to pull the trigger until there is a good review on it... So far, you are the only one on the internet that I could find that has even said you have it. smile.gif
post #39 of 3398
I haven't had time to do too much with it yet. It's set up and sounding good though!

If you have any specific questions, I'll be happy to try and answer them for you. I'm not over-technical, but I'll do my best.
post #40 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

Really? This is a reason to stay away? The vTuner option offers over 8000 internet radio stations, so Pandora is not necessarily relevant anyway.

Well, yes, this is a reason to stay away. Pandora is relevant to those of us who subscribe to Pandora. You don't see a difference between having to sort thru 8000 Internet radio stations, many of which have commercials, to find one that matches your tastes (only to have it disappear six months later) and having the ability to program your own commercial-free music and then tweak it as new groups grab your interest? Safe to assume this is all about money.

I was hoping to replace our Sonos system by upgrading from our RX-v663 to the RX-V673 so we can use the iPhone/iPad app anywhere in the house. (All of our house speakers are wired to the entertainment center.) Guess that won't happen since we listen to Pandora several hours a day. (Best $36 we spend each year.)

This is stupid.
post #41 of 3398
So streaming it from your iPad/iPad/iPhone is not an option?
post #42 of 3398
The removal of Pandora from the RX-v673 line is a deal breaker. It’s a step back for Yamaha’s line of Network receivers.

I don’t understand why Yamaha took a step backwards. For those claiming vTuner makes Pandora unnecessary, that is simply not the case, and is equivalent to saying a TV supports hundreds of channel so Netflix is unnecessary. We all know that is not the case, just like Pandora and traditional radios serve different needs. vTuner was there last year on the RX-V671 series and we had Pandora.

That leaves Airpaly as the replacement for Pandora. Again, not true. First not everyone has an iOS device. If I have Android that means I can’t access Pandora on my new $600 network receiver? Let’s assume I have an iPhone, it must be fully available to stream Pandora, not always the case and when I leave with the iPhone does that mean no one else in the house can now listen to Pandora on my $600 network receiver? Unless I buy another $200 ipod touch? Come on Yamaha! Denon, Onkyo and even Sony figured how to have Pandora, internet radios and Air play on the same receiver.

Why remove functions, you clearly had Pandora working on a vary similar receiver last year, who remove functions with an upgrade? The closest I can think of something like this is when Sony removed functions from the PS3 and we all know how that tuned out for them. Pandora is paid for by the user to I can’t see why Yamaha would drop it.
Yamaha added Pandora with a firmware update to their Neo line of receivers which originally did not have support for Pandora, here’s hoping they will do the right thing and bring back Pandora to their network receivers.

Yamaha, bring back Pandora! Yamaha, bring back Pandora! Yamaha, bring back Pandora!
post #43 of 3398
I don't understand why yamaha dropped the pre-outs on the recent models in the 600 dollar range...
post #44 of 3398
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Originally Posted by WagBoss View Post

I don't understand why yamaha dropped the pre-outs on the recent models in the 600 dollar range...

It can only be to cut costs and try and sell a few more of the next higher model (the 773 has pre-outs, but since it also includes a wireless adapter it now costs $200 extra over the 673). But pre-outs in that price range was one of the advantages of Yamaha over Denon etc., so they are losing that advantage.
post #45 of 3398
I'm with 3gjgr. Had hoped to replace my v663 with the v673. I'll be watching to see if Yamaha adds back Pandora before spending the $600. But, if Denon wises up before then and adds Zone 2 to its mid-priced receivers WITHOUT having to give up the rear surround-sound speakers, Denon gets my $600 (I'd even go to $700 for the extra channels). Okay Yamaha and Denon, there's a pile of cash on the table. So, who wants it more?
post #46 of 3398
Just purchased the v673 from Video-Only yesterday for $499. So far so good. Never had an AV receiver before, this one replaces the Onkyo receiver I bought in 1987. MUCH better! I plan to hook it up to my new Samsung 3D BD/DVD this weekend and my new 70" Sharp 3D TV. I bought it mostly for the 2 zones, network functionality, iPad apps, and airplay. I'm also psyched about the pass through so the kids can watch TV/DVD without having to turn the whole system on but I have not figured out how to get this to work yet. I have a lot of reading to do this week.
post #47 of 3398
I gratefully respect everyone’s opinion, but why is everyone so crazy for Pandora on this? If it's really that big of a determining factor in your buying decision, why not just get another device like a Blu-Ray player that has Pandora on it? Maybe I’m missing something, but when I saw that Pandora wasn’t on the rx-v673 I thought to myself, “Who cares, I have it on my Blu-Ray player”. (If someone could help me understand this please let me know).

I, as I’m sure a lot of people in the world, am looking for a few reviews from other owners and more importantly for myself, the experts that rate these things professionally. I can’t speak for the Yamaha rx-v673 yet, but CNET just did a review on the new Denon AVR-1913, and it did not receive the good rating it has had in the past (at least from last year’s model).

For now, I personally am going to wait until more reviews are out. However, from the other reviews I have seen on the other A/V receivers I would get the Yamaha rx-v673 first. It seems one might get a bigger bang for the buck. But, until more reviews are out, that is obviously just my simple opinion.
post #48 of 3398
I was mistaken when I mentioned using an iDevice for Pandora. It seems that it can't be done (with USB, I don't know about Airplay - don't have it available).

I contacted Yamaha and they said that although "there will be additions to the net features in the coming months, we will not know what until that time".

I'm now considering returning it and maybe going with the Denon 2312 instead. I'm completely undecided.
post #49 of 3398
I did the same thing. Got an Onkyo TX-NR616 and before I had it all the way set up, the HDMI Main output went dark. I was able to reset with Unplug. I had the latest firmware at the time (,,,300) . I tried 3 different HDMI cables before going on line and seeing I was not alone, Also, with every firmware upgrade, all the settings would have to be redone. (Not the case with Yamaha). This made it a no brainer from a dealer point of view. I also did not like the excessive heat with the Onkyo. One of the other huge selling points with the 673 is that in standby mode, you can choose any HDMI source for pass through. On Onkyo, you could preset one.
In regards to Pandora or AirPlay, I would say it depends on your personal music library. If you have one that satisfies you, AirPlay is better. If not, I would still consider just using a cheap BluRay player with Pandora, instead of passing up AirPlay. I think the Android App is also cleaner on the Yamaha
post #50 of 3398
Hi all, i bought this AVR about one month ago. I'm pretty satisfied, it is great smile.gif but I have a question.

I'd like to easily switch between two different setup of the 7.1 DSP program (i.e. different configuration of front-rear balance). I tried to save custom Scenes but it seems it saves just the current DSP program, not the parameter settings of the program.

whould be ok to modify that parameters through remote App (iOS or Andoird), but it seems to me the app is not able to change DSP program settings...

Any hints?

Thanks!
post #51 of 3398
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Originally Posted by sbartosch View Post

I did the same thing. Got an Onkyo TX-NR616 and before I had it all the way set up, the HDMI Main output went dark. I was able to reset with Unplug. I had the latest firmware at the time (,,,300) . I tried 3 different HDMI cables before going on line and seeing I was not alone, Also, with every firmware upgrade, all the settings would have to be redone. (Not the case with Yamaha). This made it a no brainer from a dealer point of view. I also did not like the excessive heat with the Onkyo. One of the other huge selling points with the 673 is that in standby mode, you can choose any HDMI source for pass through. On Onkyo, you could preset one.
In regards to Pandora or AirPlay, I would say it depends on your personal music library. If you have one that satisfies you, AirPlay is better. If not, I would still consider just using a cheap BluRay player with Pandora, instead of passing up AirPlay. I think the Android App is also cleaner on the Yamaha

Count me in on the Onkyo TX-NR616 failure to launch.. I had the HDMI out problems, etc. Anyway, I bought the Yamaha RX-V673 today as an open box item at Frys and I'm just now setting it up. It seems some guy likely bought it and some speakers to jam over the 4th of July weekend and returned it all. What a chump.. Anyway, I'll give some feedback as I go. So far my complaint is that the Wii won't go through the receiver. The only component inputs don't have the component audio along with them. I plugged the Wii directly into my TV and it works if I turn the receiver completely off.

One thing I couldn't get a good grasp of was the primary differences between the RX-V673 and the Aventage RX-A720. I considered the 720 but couldn't see the price being worth it. As to the RX-V773, for me it didn't seem like it was worth the extra cash, especially since I got this as an open box. I really considered the Denon 2113...
post #52 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Kainan View Post

So far my complaint is that the Wii won't go through the receiver. The only component inputs don't have the component audio along with them. I plugged the Wii directly into my TV and it works if I turn the receiver completely off.

The Wii is not a problem, it just needs to be set up the right way. See section 4 of the 673 manual (Connecting playback devices, starting on page 28). A component video input to the 673 can take its audio from optical, digital coax or analog RCA. So that covers all the bases.
post #53 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

Believe it or not, Best Buy!
I paid $599 for it - not being discounted beyond that anywhere, so I figured it was worth it for the 18 months IFC and the points!
I had an Onkyo TX-NR616, which I returned after three weeks because Onkyo could not get their act together and fix an HDMI out issue as well as the problem of not being able to turn the receiver on with the remote. I had to do something or look at a gaping hole in my entertainment center!!!
So far, so good. The GUI is not bad and YPAO is as easy as it's always been. I fixed a problem this morning with my BD player (Sony BDP-580) where it was only outputting PCM. It's giving me TrueHD now, but I will not get to test it properly until I get home from work tonight.
The main issue I have with it so far is the fact that I can't see a way to save favorites in the vTuner app. I have an email in with Yamaha for an answer on that one. The Onkyo had Slacker, Pandora and Spotify (which I couldn't get to log in), and this doesn't, but it has Airplay which should make them redundant anyway. I have to find a good way of emulating Airplay functionality with my Android phone and tablet, too.
Still have lots of playing to do before I can post a review, but so far, no major issues. Of course, 4k upconverting is a waste until the TVs become available at human pricing, but 1080p is working well, as is 3D and everything else.

I agree about the YPAO. It setup fairly quickly and the Yamaha sounds better than the Onkyo 616 did when it comes to the subwoofer. I had to adjust the sub down a lot after I setup the Onkyo.

Thanks for the tip about Favorites on vTuner. Here is the link for others. Once you put in your MAC it gives you the option to create an account with your email address. I was trying to set this up first but couldn't find it. I put in the MAC ID and then got the option.

http://yradio.vtuner.com/setupapp/yamaha/asp/AuthLogin/SignIn.asp

I hoped that I could use my Galaxy S2 to stream music but so far it doesn't work. It shows the tunes I try to play but doesn't actually play the songs. The Android app works great to control the receiver and I hit the musical notes icon which launches my music but nothing plays. I really wanted to find a way to stream Slacker. Others complain about Pandora but I like Slacker a lot better due to station caching, sound quality, etc. but the Onkyo was the only receiver to have Slacker. I'm considering getting a Roku for cheap to stream stuff. Opinions??
post #54 of 3398
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

The Wii is not a problem, it just needs to be set up the right way. See section 4 of the 673 manual (Connecting playback devices, starting on page 28). A component video input to the 673 can take its audio from optical, digital coax or analog RCA. So that covers all the bases.

The audio jacks weren't on the same input (AV1). I did run across a setting that appears as if I can link other audio inputs to a video input. The downside is the manual says I have to run component out of the receiver so there is no component to HDMI conversion.
post #55 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Kainan View Post


I hoped that I could use my Galaxy S2 to stream music but so far it doesn't work. It shows the tunes I try to play but doesn't actually play the songs. The Android app works great to control the receiver and I hit the musical notes icon which launches my music but nothing plays. I really wanted to find a way to stream Slacker. Others complain about Pandora but I like Slacker a lot better due to station caching, sound quality, etc. but the Onkyo was the only receiver to have Slacker. I'm considering getting a Roku for cheap to stream stuff. Opinions??

Are you basically trying to stream via DLNA? I'm trying to do the same thing, my phone sees the receiver but I'd don't see an option to select DLNA as an input. Airplay works perfect though.
post #56 of 3398
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Originally Posted by ivwshane View Post

Are you basically trying to stream via DLNA? I'm trying to do the same thing, my phone sees the receiver but I'd don't see an option to select DLNA as an input. Airplay works perfect though.

I'm learning. smile.gif I figured out how to make DLNA work from the receiver to the phone and finally found I need to use All Share on my Galaxy S2 to use DLNA. I guess this is a moot point since DLNA stinks if you have many songs. I don't see a way to sort by artist or anything like this so I have 500 to 1000 songs to try to browse through. It actually locked up once when trying to access the music. frown.gif On the plus side, the music on the Yamaha receiver sounds better than I've heard before.

At this point I'm disappointed there isn't a way to stream Slacker radio to the receiver but I expected it. I had hoped there might be a way through DLNA if I plugged it in through the USB but didn't figure I would have any luck. I'm thinking of one of the following:

1. Get a Roku so I can stream wireless and control via a remote control
2. Get the HDMI cable for the Galaxy S2 and stream Slacker this way (obviously not wireless but can stream anything from my phone to the receiver)
3. Go the cheapest way out and simply run my headphone jack to audio cables and plug into the back of the receiver.(obviously not wireless AND you can't see any info about the song, etc.)
post #57 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Kainan View Post

The audio jacks weren't on the same input (AV1). I did run across a setting that appears as if I can link other audio inputs to a video input. The downside is the manual says I have to run component out of the receiver so there is no component to HDMI conversion.
To connect component video with analog audio from a Wii, see page 29 of the 673 manual ("Changing the combination of video/audio input jacks"). The diagram at the bottom of that page is exactly what you want.

And I was going to say that the 673 will convert component video to HDMI, since the 671 and even earlier models would do that. BUT, the table on page 125 shows that it can't (except for 480i input). This is a strange step backwards for the 673 (not being able to convert 480p or higher to HDMI).
post #58 of 3398
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

To connect component video with analog audio from a Wii, see page 29 of the 673 manual ("Changing the combination of video/audio input jacks"). The diagram at the bottom of that page is exactly what you want.
And I was going to say that the 673 will convert component video to HDMI, since the 671 and even earlier models would do that. BUT, the table on page 125 shows that it can't (except for 480i input). This is a strange step backwards for the 673 (not being able to convert 480p or higher to HDMI).

I will hookup the Wii tonight via page 29. Thx.

Right, this unit doesn't convert 480p component to HDMI. frown.gif

I'll post up more impressions as I have time to test the receiver. So far, I have to say that the Onkyo was easier to setup. Even programming the remote for other equipment was much easier to me.


I guess Yamaha is not a common receiver among people on AVS Forum.
post #59 of 3398
It appears I was the first on this forum to get my 673, but I have a question now a few others have one...

The OSD works fine, but the sound adjustment does not appear when using the DirecTV box. I get the volume display when using the BRD input or the PS3, but not the DVR.

Is this a setup issue or something that Yamaha needs to sort out?


I'm still not decided about this receiver. I can pick up a Denon AVR-2312 for about the same price and I have a week left on my return window. I also looked at the Pioneer Elite VSX-60, which again, is a similar price. The Denon would give me Audyssey MultEQ XT and a three year warranty, but it's last year's model, which is not necessarily a bad thing as it has all I need. That means discounts are abound and it's a more expensive (MSRP) receiver for the money.
post #60 of 3398
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

It appears I was the first on this forum to get my 673, but I have a question now a few others have one...
The OSD works fine, but the sound adjustment does not appear when using the DirecTV box. I get the volume display when using the BRD input or the PS3, but not the DVR.
Is this a setup issue or something that Yamaha needs to sort out?
I'm still not decided about this receiver. I can pick up a Denon AVR-2312 for about the same price and I have a week left on my return window. I also looked at the Pioneer Elite VSX-60, which again, is a similar price. The Denon would give me Audyssey MultEQ XT and a three year warranty, but it's last year's model, which is not necessarily a bad thing as it has all I need. That means discounts are abound and it's a more expensive (MSRP) receiver for the money.

Which set of sound options are you looking for? I was playing around with it last night to figure some of this out myself. I'll check when I get home.

I too have considered the same receiver you are considering, even the higher model Denon from last year. One reason I didn't was the amount of setup time. From what I understand the Audyssey setup in the 2011 models has more configuration to be done. I don't want to have to spend hours trying to make it sound right unless I have to. smile.gif
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