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post #961 of 3396
Even when watching movies?
post #962 of 3396
Hello...I bought this amp a week ago or so and am loving it....but....it seems to not want to play my WMA lossless rips. It finds them like a champ on the NAS and on a USB...but when I try to play them I just get an "unable to play" message and that is it. It will however play WMA's at a reduced bit rate. What do you guys think the issue may be???
post #963 of 3396
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Originally Posted by highdefav1 View Post

When I ran YPAO initially, it set my sub distance at like 26 feet, when it was only about 14 feet from the mic. When I set my volume on the sub to -9db and reran YPAO, it actually set it to the right distance, give or take a couple of inches.

I'm going to rerun YPAO today and before I do turn down the sub volume to -15db and see what happens.

Well if its measuring distance only just from the mic the auto setup is way off for me. My surrounds are probably 4 feet (set at 28) and my sub is 15 (set at 26).
post #964 of 3396
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Originally Posted by jdubsss View Post

Well if its measuring distance only just from the mic the auto setup is way off for me. My surrounds are probably 4 feet (set at 28) and my sub is 15 (set at 26).
It measures the time that it takes for the sound to reach the mic and converts to distance. It is not true distance but sound delay. As 99 explained, your wireless processing is adding time to the return signal. If you have run it more than once and gotten the same result, keep it. YPAO is doing you a favor. If it wavers much its probably because your wireless processor is inconsistent and unreliable.
It is setting the distance on the fronts properly, right? And they are wired, right?
Edited by Bond 007 - 1/13/13 at 4:43pm
post #965 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Derwood-guy View Post

Even when watching movies?

Do you have a 5.1 or a 7.1 setup? Pro Logic II is designed to convert stereo to 5.1 (see this link). By definition it has nothing to do if the source is already 5.1 (movie or otherwise), so it can't be selected. If you have a 7.1 setup, we should be talking about Pro Logic IIx (note the "x").
post #966 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

It measures the time that it takes for the sound to reach the mic and converts to distance. It is not true distance but sound delay. As 99 explained, your wireless processing is adding time to the return signal. If you have run it more than once and gotten the same result, keep it. YPAO is doing you a favor. If it wavers much its probably because your wireless processor is inconsistent and unreliable.
It is setting the distance on the fronts properly, right? And they are wired, right?

Its always been the same around 28 feet. The fronts are wired and show the correct distance. Thanks for the reply.
post #967 of 3396
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Originally Posted by jdubsss View Post

Its always been the same around 28 feet. The fronts are wired and show the correct distance. Thanks for the reply.
yw Enjoy. smile.gif
post #968 of 3396
Just bought one of these coming from an Onkyo, any points for a Yamaha Newbie?
post #969 of 3396
Not really. Read the manual well and let us know if you have any questions. smile.gif
post #970 of 3396
"Background Video feature (for Radio and Net)"
Does anyone know how to enable this feature? This was one of my favorite on the Onkyo and I cant seem to get it to work. I display my cctv cameras while listening to the tuner 24/7. Doing the FW upgrade now.
post #971 of 3396
Thanks for the reply... any recommendations for which setting is best for watching movies? Would that be pure taste/preference?
post #972 of 3396
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Originally Posted by jetfxr27 View Post

"Background Video feature (for Radio and Net)"
Does anyone know how to enable this feature? This was one of my favorite on the Onkyo and I cant seem to get it to work. I display my cctv cameras while listening to the tuner 24/7. Doing the FW upgrade now.
You can set the HDMI video to be displayed during each particular radio station (Pandora, Sirius, etc) individually. Menu>Input>Rhapsody>Video Out
post #973 of 3396
Thanks Bond got it! Love the iPad app with this thing its awesome.
post #974 of 3396
Ok....so no takers on my question...so I will try another tact. What is the maximun bit rate that this Yammy will play...or what would the recommended bit rate be if I was to convert all my music from WMA lossless.....192kbps???
post #975 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Svenborg View Post

Ok....so no takers on my question...so I will try another tact. What is the maximun bit rate that this Yammy will play...or what would the recommended bit rate be if I was to convert all my music from WMA lossless.....192kbps???
I don't use it that way so I simply don't know the answer. Something like max bit rate should be in the manual though. Have you tried there?
post #976 of 3396
Hi, I have some concerns about the RX-V373. It lists it as being 100 watts for 1 channel, 85 watts for 2 channels, but doesn't list it for all 5 channels driven. Does anyone know?
post #977 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Svenborg View Post

Ok....so no takers on my question...so I will try another tact. What is the maximun bit rate that this Yammy will play...or what would the recommended bit rate be if I was to convert all my music from WMA lossless.....192kbps???

Is converting to a lossless format other than WMA (like FLAC) an option? I don't think it's a bitrate problem, because I've played 96khz/24bit stereo FLAC files off of USB without a problem. I've even gotten 96/24 5.1 surround FLACs to play, but only for about 20 sec before it chokes.

Before you downconvert, try converting a few files to WAV, then convert the WAVs to FLAC. Unless you really need the disk space, there's not much reason to go below CD quality (44.1 kHz/16 bit), and the receiver will have no problem with that bitrate (around 1000 kbps).

If you go the downconverting route, test out a few sizes before you convert your whole collection. Convert a few tracks into 320, 256 and 192 versions and compare them to each other, and to the lossless version, and pick the best one that plays. Good luck!
post #978 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Ak Gara View Post

Hi, I have some concerns about the RX-V373. It lists it as being 100 watts for 1 channel, 85 watts for 2 channels, but doesn't list it for all 5 channels driven. Does anyone know?
It would take a page of tech typing to explain that. Suffice it to say that it is about 100 wpc for 5 channels.
post #979 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Ak Gara View Post

Hi, I have some concerns about the RX-V373. It lists it as being 100 watts for 1 channel, 85 watts for 2 channels, but doesn't list it for all 5 channels driven. Does anyone know?

Also look at the details. The 373 specs are for 1kHz with 0.9% THD (not 20-20kHz, 0.09% as on the higher end models), to make it look more powerful than it is. The 373 uses an integrated amp (basically just a big chip) instead of discrete power amps, so don't expect to rattle the windows unless your speakers are very easy to drive.
post #980 of 3396
Hmm, the 373 is Rated Output Power (1kHz, 2ch driven) 85W 0.9% THD, and the 473 is Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 80W 0.09% THD

As you point out, 85w at 0.9 at 1kHz means it could be anything at say, 400Hz or 10kHz...

[edit] Is the 473 that much better than the 373?
post #981 of 3396
Dont do it.

The Speaker threads will tell you to drive floor standing speakers, you need 200WPC.

So 373/473 should not even be considered.
You're just throwing your money away when you have to upgrade to drive your $99 newegg monitors or whatever.
post #982 of 3396
I can't find any Monitor 30's, so I have my eye on a set of TSI-100's. You're saying a 473 isn't enough?
post #983 of 3396
It gets very complicated when discussing receiver watt ratings and speaker wattage ratings. Then you have to get into sensitivity, impedance, peak power vs rms and all kinds of other stuff. Either the 373 or 473 will easily push your bookshelf speakers.
post #984 of 3396
I just purchased a RX-V773WA and ran into a few issues that may be in past posts but I didn't want to read through them all and thought I'd post this for people contemplating purchasing a 773 or 673, since they are basically the same.

My subwoofer is designed to sense a feed to it and turn on automatically. It does not with the 773. I will try boosting the bass output to see if it will trigger the subwoofer and then adjust the SW volume to compensate as suggested in previous posts. This isn't a big deal but I will have to leave my SW on all the time if I can't get it to trigger.

My biggest complaint with this receiver is that if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker arrangement and you want to run a 2-channel input (CD player, FM radio, Internet radio etc.), no matter what signal processing you select, the receiver will not drive the subwoofer!!!!! I called Yamaha and talked with a tech support guy and two supervisors and they informed me that the receiver is designed to do that. I can not believe it! My 10 year old Sony 5.1 receiver I replaced with this Yamaha would drive the subwoofer with a 2-channel input. If someone knows of a workaround for this, please post it. The subwoofer works fine with Dish HDTV programming and my Blu-Ray player when accompanied with 5.1 surround sound encoding.

I'm not very impressed with the YPAO system. I ran multi-point calibrations and ended up with horrible distortion on the front and center channel speakers. I ran a single-point calibration and it worked fine. I just upgraded the firmware to version 1.64 which in addition to adding Pandora, Rhapsody and Sirius/XM, is suppose to improve the YPAO multi-point calibration. I'll be testing that out later today to see if I still get the distortion after calibration.

I haven't decided if I'm going to return this receiver yet. Not driving the subwoofer is close to a deal-killer for me but I'm going to try some different bass settings for my front channel speakers (Polk Audio LS-90's) and see if I miss the subwoofer for music.

Thoughts? Comments?
post #985 of 3396
If you are not getting a signal to the sub with 2 channel music (Pandora, Sirius, tuner etc.) then you either have bad settings or a bad receiver. I have a 7.1 setup and listen to Pandora all the time in "7 ch stereo" and my sub works fine.
post #986 of 3396
It doesn't matter what settings you select, the receiver does not send a signal to to the subwoofer when there is a 2 channel input to the receiver. Yamaha says that the way the receiver was designed to operate.

Are you saying you do get a signal to a subwoofer with a 2 channel input? Do you have a 673 or a 773? What settings are you using to do this?
post #987 of 3396
With the front speakers set as SMALL it will send bass to the subwoofer. You presumably have them set as LARGE right now.
post #988 of 3396
I have a 5.1 setup. I wonder if that matters?
post #989 of 3396
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Originally Posted by Avedis View Post

I have a 5.1 setup. I wonder if that matters?
No
post #990 of 3396
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

With the front speakers set as SMALL it will send bass to the subwoofer. You presumably have them set as LARGE right now.

You sir are correct! Thank you very much. I set the front speakers to small and the receiver display now shows output to the subwoofer. I also ran the multi-point YPAO after the firmware upgrade to version 1.64 and the distortion is no longer present as it was with version 1.27 (what my receiver was shipped with).

I am a happy camper now. AVS forum dudes know more than the Yamaha wonks!!!!
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