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post #10201 of 12560
2/12/13 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

I don't believe the VT50 will "scale" the 1080i feed to 1080P, will it? That is what you are assuming in your question.

It is my understanding that all input (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) is displayed as 1080p. So the VT50 "scale" or "deinterlace" 1080i to 1080p.

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post #10202 of 12560
2/12/13 at 8:22am
My 65VT50 does something similar to what you are describing.I had a tech come out a month ago and today it was determined that Panasonic is going to replace my set.For the price I paid for this set it should have been replaced a couple of weeks ago.I still have to wait for a phone call from Panasonic.Here are a couple of pics of what my set does IMG_0923.JPG 4132k .JPG file
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post #10203 of 12560
2/12/13 at 8:31am
Thank you kind sir. You have put my mind at ease. I didnt run slides to notice it I had simply quit the game and it was clear as day on the dashboard screen on the Ps3. I ran the scrolling bar to get rid of it. I do vary my content and would say normally I game about 30% of the time I am home. This was my first gaming experience on this tv which is why I reacted the way I did. Again thank you.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

What method did you use to see the IR?
If you had gone on to watch regular programming, or maybe a movie with an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 (16x9), you would have never found any IR.
Yes, other plasma owners have reacted in ways very similar to you. It has nothing to do with the individual plasma display. The secret to contentment with a plasma display is to have viewing habits that include a wide range of source material, and to avoid long periods of time where the same fixed image is constantly on the screen in the same spot.
The phosphors that make the colors age as they do their job. With age your display loses brightness and has less phosphors to burn. The fastest burn rate is when a panel is new. I think the standard for newer models is to lose half their brightness after 100,000 hours on average. Of course every few years you can adjust the contrast and brightness controls with a calibration disk like Disney's WoW, and you will never notice the gradual loss of brightness. smile.gif
If you do nothing but gaming and Nickelodeon, then I would say that plasma might not be for you. If you set limits on how much your kids get to watch TV, and on how many hours you're gaming, and you watch a lot of other kinds of material, then I think you will be fine.
Maybe. But you should analyze your viewing habits first, and check out the pros and cons of edge lit LED LCD displays. Second, you shouldn't ask that question in a forum like this one unless you think your display is broken. Your display is fine, and if it fits how you're going to use it then you're fine too.

If you did use colored or white slides to look for IR, and you find that you can't resist doing that frequently, then it may be LCD time.

My 60" Kuro plasma is over five years old. Last summer, when a discussion like this was going on, I hauled out D-Nice's slides and checked for IR. There was none.

My wife and I watch a lot of NFL games, all the local NHL games that my wife doesn't attend, and six or seven Netflix shinny disk movies a week. Most of the movies have black bars, but many of them don't. We also watch the local PBS channel, ESPN and NFL network. That's a lot of fixed images and black bars, but they are always moving to new locations on the screen. Except for the NFL and NHL games, the fixed images are never in the exact same place for more than an hour or two.

The amount of time it takes a specific image to fade away is generally longer than the time it takes for that same image to linger on your screen. The time involved shouldn't matter if you can't see the IR when you're watching your other programs.
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post #10204 of 12560
2/12/13 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

It is my understanding that all input (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) is displayed as 1080p. So the VT50 "scale" or "deinterlace" 1080i to 1080p.

jdg

You are probably correct. I've always thought of the VT50 as a display capable of displaying the resolution of the signal passed to it from a source, be that blu-ray, cable box, or AVR. Never thought it would take 1080i and make it 1080p within the panel electronics. Learn something every day!
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post #10205 of 12560
2/12/13 at 9:04am
Last night my dad asked for some help shopping for a new TV to replace an old 65" Mitsubishi Diamond rear projector. I was recently considering buying a new TV so I am familiar with what's out there so I gave him the lowdown on plasma vs. LED and the different makes and models. We went to Best Buy looking for the ST50 but they had no 65" Panasonics at all on site and no ST models even at the warehouse. What they did have at the warehouse was the VT50. biggrin.gif The price was surprisingly low for Best Buy so I advised that unless he wanted to wait a few months for the 2013 models he should make the purchase. A nice, shiny, new 65" VT50 will be delivered tomorrow and get to set it up. Needless to say, I'm quite excited.
Edited by repete66211 - 2/12/13 at 9:15am
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post #10206 of 12560
2/12/13 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by MenaceAVS View Post

I am about to pull the trigger on a 65" VT50. I have been searching all over for the VESA pattern on the VT50 but can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know?

The wall mounting pattern and dimensions are shown in the VT50 Quick Start Guide linked on Post#2 of the 2012 Lineup thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1386141/official-panasonic-2012-lineup-and-information-thread-no-price-talk#post_21467390
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post #10207 of 12560
2/12/13 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

It is my understanding that all input (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) is displayed as 1080p. So the VT50 "scale" or "deinterlace" 1080i to 1080p.

jdg
"Upscaling" and "Upconversion" are totally different things.
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post #10208 of 12560
2/12/13 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

It is my understanding that all input (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) is displayed as 1080p. So the VT50 "scale" or "deinterlace" 1080i to 1080p.

jdg

No the vt50 does not upconvert to 1080p.
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post #10209 of 12560
2/12/13 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by locdog33 View Post

No the vt50 does not upconvert to 1080p.

Yes it does.

There isn't a single TV on the market that doesn't scale to the native panel resolution. Consumers don't want to watch a 10" sized picture that sits in the middle of the screen.
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post #10210 of 12560
2/12/13 at 10:28am
can someone give me tips on how to adjust this TV to create the "soap opera effect"
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post #10211 of 12560
2/12/13 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by blueclifford View Post

can someone give me tips on how to adjust this TV to create the "soap opera effect"

Turn motion smoother to "strong", not sure that will exactly mimic what is a largely an LCD term(SOE)
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post #10212 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by lyris View Post

Yes it does.

There isn't a single TV on the market that doesn't scale to the native panel resolution. Consumers don't want to watch a 10" sized picture that sits in the middle of the screen.

No TV upconverts to 1080p. Yes it scales to its native resolution which is 1920 x 1080 but does not upconvert to 1080p. Maybe your misquoting your words.
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post #10213 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:18am
+1


Although in my old lcd thread I noticed a lot of people shared his misconception and actually believed that up converters like the DVDo etc didn't do it as well as the tv could natively....
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post #10214 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by locdog33 View Post

No TV upconverts to 1080p. Yes it scales to its native resolution which is 1920 x 1080 but does not upconvert to 1080p. Maybe your misquoting your words.
+1. Hence, the difference between upscaling and upconversion. Making 480p fit the screen doesnt make it 1080p.
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post #10215 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:35am
How do I check hours used in the service menu on my 55vt50? I would like to check immediately upon delivery,just to be sure its brand new as I have ordered one from a relatively unknown company. Couldn't seem to find an answer among numerous threads and replies. Sorry if I have overlooked the answer.
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post #10216 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by headydaa View Post

How do I check hours used in the service menu on my 55vt50? I would like to check immediately upon delivery,just to be sure its brand new as I have ordered one from a relatively unknown company. Couldn't seem to find an answer among numerous threads and replies. Sorry if I have overlooked the answer.

Got google? wink.gif
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post #10217 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:50am
My Panny BDT-220 up converts everything to 1080p. My 65VT does not.
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post #10218 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Got google? wink.gif
Why arent you out driving in the Dakkar Rally or something? Slacker. biggrin.gif
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post #10219 of 12560
2/12/13 at 11:56am
Enter service menu at your own risk!

On the plasma hold "vol down" and press info on remote 3 times, this will bring up the sm. Press 2 on remote then press ok. Scroll down to
"Ptct:00" press right to highlight the blank field to the right of ptct. Hold mute 3 seconds. Unplug tv to exit sm.
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Originally Posted by headydaa View Post

How do I check hours used in the service menu on my 55vt50? I would like to check immediately upon delivery,just to be sure its brand new as I have ordered one from a relatively unknown company. Couldn't seem to find an answer among numerous threads and replies. Sorry if I have overlooked the answer.
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post #10220 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by Hi Deaf View Post

My Panny BDT-220 up converts everything to 1080p. My 65VT does not.
Too bad you cant run the cable box through it.
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post #10221 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:08pm
Hello, I'm a new Vt50 owner and I was hoping someone could help out with a question I have regarding the Vt50's online capabilities.

I've been having issues with choppiness and stuttering when trying to stream online content from vimeo, youtube, and netflix. I've tried hooking up the TV with both wifi and ethernet connections, in both cases I get the same download and upload speeds. I'm using the built in browser and going to speakeasy.com to find out what my speeds are, and they top out around 5Mbps.

What's got me frustrated is that I've tried numerous other devices on the same network, ipad, cellphone, old laptop, that are all getting speeds between 12 and 16 Mbps. My broadband cable connection tops out around 30Mbps.

Is there a setting somewhere I'm missing on the TV? Could anyone with a cable connection please check what their download speeds are using one the online speedtest sites? I'm wondering if its my TV or my router perhaps, or that %Mbps is the limit for this TV.

Thanks in advance for any advise you can give me.
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post #10222 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by locdog33 View Post

No TV upconverts to 1080p. Yes it scales to its native resolution which is 1920 x 1080 but does not upconvert to 1080p. Maybe your misquoting your words.

In this case, what does the "3:2 pulldown" option do, and what is the resulting output resolution?

jdg
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post #10223 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

In this case, what does the "3:2 pulldown" option do, and what is the resulting output resolution?

jdg


Scaling and conversion are 2 different processes. TVs only scale not convert. Just because it scales to 1920 x 1080 does not mean it converts to 1080p.
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post #10224 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:30pm
Most newer a/v receivers can do video conversion
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post #10225 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Too bad you cant run the cable box through it.

If you wanted to do that, you could pick yourself up an Oppo 103 or 105...and pay 5 - 10 times as much. smile.gif
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post #10226 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:44pm
Hey all, new to the forum and I got a 55VT50 about 3 weeks ago. Holy crap what a nice set. My first plasma, and I don't know what took me so long. I broke in the tv using break in slides and I have about 125 hours on it. I am using d'nice settings and it looks great. I want to watch a blu-ray's that is 2.40:1. Do I have to worry about IR/BI since the TV is so new. Thanks
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post #10227 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by miket5567 View Post

Hey all, new to the forum and I got a 55VT50 about 3 weeks ago. Holy crap what a nice set. My first plasma, and I don't know what took me so long. I broke in the tv using break in slides and I have about 125 hours on it. I am using d'nice settings and it looks great. I want to watch a blu-ray's that is 2.40:1. Do I have to worry about IR/BI since the TV is so new. Thanks
The short answer is no unless you go on for several days watching only 2.40:1 movies and nothing else. If you watch all kinds of source material and you don't constantly use the D-Nice slides to check for IR that isn't normally visible, you'll be fine. Enjoy. smile.gif
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post #10228 of 12560
2/12/13 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by ipoop2much View Post

Thank you kind sir. You have put my mind at ease. I didnt run slides to notice it I had simply quit the game and it was clear as day on the dashboard screen on the Ps3. I ran the scrolling bar to get rid of it. I do vary my content and would say normally I game about 30% of the time I am home. This was my first gaming experience on this tv which is why I reacted the way I did. Again thank you.
You're welcome. biggrin.gif

Now, about your crappy AVS user name ...
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post #10229 of 12560
2/12/13 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by ipoop2much View Post

Enter service menu at your own risk!

On the plasma hold "vol down" and press info on remote 3 times, this will bring up the sm. Press 2 on remote then press ok. Scroll down to
"Ptct:00" press right to highlight the blank field to the right of ptct. Hold mute 3 seconds. Unplug tv to exit sm.

At the end you can just hold down the Exit button on the remote until it turns off. Just another option if unplugging is inconvenient.
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post #10230 of 12560
2/12/13 at 1:16pm
Lol, its been my default forum name since I've started using the internet back in the day. Inspired by the plane scene in beavis and butthead do america.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You're welcome. biggrin.gif

Now, about your crappy AVS user name ...
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