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post #10681 of 13474
I too have not been able to get wireless remotes like iPad & iPhone to turn ON my new Panasonic Viera VT50 HDTV. Everything else in my system works, i.e. Marantz SR7007 Receiver, TiVo Premier Elite and Apple TV. I have set the TV/Network/Wake on LAN. I have been working on this for 4 days with Roomie Remote support and they have been outstanding – just can't get TV to turn ON except with the Panasonic IR remote that came with the TV. The Roomie command, "System Off" does work. My other remotes such as the TiVo Remote also works and will turn the TV ON/OFF. I installed the new Panasonic VIERA Remote app (VIERA remote2) on my iPad and it doesn't work either. I have reported this to Panasonic, but no response yet. I have read conflicting comments on the Roomie web site and they have told me there is a problem with the VT50 and wireless commands.

Any others having these problems?
post #10682 of 13474
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Originally Posted by jacbec View Post

I too have not been able to get wireless remotes like iPad & iPhone to turn ON my new Panasonic Viera VT50 HDTV. Everything else in my system works, i.e. Marantz SR7007 Receiver, TiVo Premier Elite and Apple TV. I have set the TV/Network/Wake on LAN. I have been working on this for 4 days with Roomie Remote support and they have been outstanding – just can't get TV to turn ON except with the Panasonic IR remote that came with the TV. The Roomie command, "System Off" does work. My other remotes such as the TiVo Remote also works and will turn the TV ON/OFF. I installed the new Panasonic VIERA Remote app (VIERA remote2) on my iPad and it doesn't work either. I have reported this to Panasonic, but no response yet. I have read conflicting comments on the Roomie web site and they have told me there is a problem with the VT50 and wireless commands.

Any others having these problems?

After reading your post, I thought I would do a quick test, though I doubt it will be helpful to you. Reason is, while I have a wireless network here, I have the VT50 connected via ethernet CAT6 cable to the router. Using VIERA remote2 via the iPad 3 on the wireless network DID allow the TV to turn on. So it's not the software, as you probably already know.
post #10683 of 13474
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Originally Posted by stash64 View Post

I did have a question. My TV is on a stand and the cables are visible behind the TV. Has anyone come up with a way to black out the space between the stand and the bottom of the TV. I'm thinking of trying some black speaker cloth material.
Just zip tie the cables in the middle behind the stand and you won't see them.
post #10684 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

Has anyone else noticed the motion on the VT50 being pretty bad? Whenever I am watching something and they pan the camera to the side it gets real blurry and almost makes me sick. I have the motion smoother off. I have mainly noticed this while watching cable through Comcast and need to do some blu-ray viewing. Maybe it is just the source material being crappy and the grain is making it look blurry when the camera moves or something. Maybe it is partly due to me going from a 50" to 65" so it won't be as sharp. I never had this issue with my 500M. So I am thinking it is one of three problems. It is that Panasonic TVs don't handle motion as well, it is the difference in sharpness in going from 50" to 65" or maybe my set is defective. Any ideas or insight?

I notice what you speak of on both my GT and VT. I don't believe it happens on all content across all channels, but definetely does not happen on any channels on my old CRT tv..
post #10685 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Kathy View Post

Purchased my 65VT50 six weeks ago. This is my fourth Panny Plasma. Out of the box, the colors look great, and I plan to have it calibrated this spring. But, what is disappointing is that I have lots of latency or jerky moves when watching basketball.

I have DirecTV service, so I went into the bedroom, where my former S 65" screen was moved. Same basketball game, but no jerky moving. So, I am guessing its the 65VT50 television. Has anyone else experienced this, or does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can solve it? Thanks

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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

Has anyone else noticed the motion on the VT50 being pretty bad? Whenever I am watching something and they pan the camera to the side it gets real blurry and almost makes me sick. I have the motion smoother off. I have mainly noticed this while watching cable through Comcast and need to do some blu-ray viewing. Maybe it is just the source material being crappy and the grain is making it look blurry when the camera moves or something. Maybe it is partly due to me going from a 50" to 65" so it won't be as sharp. I never had this issue with my 500M. So I am thinking it is one of three problems. It is that Panasonic TVs don't handle motion as well, it is the difference in sharpness in going from 50" to 65" or maybe my set is defective. Any ideas or insight?

You can rule out the problem going from a 50" to a 65", as my older ST65 was in my living room using the same DirecTV DVR, and I never had motion issues.
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Originally Posted by Tony1 View Post

I notice what you speak of on both my GT and VT. I don't believe it happens on all content across all channels, but definetely does not happen on any channels on my old CRT tv..

Surprised that this issue is considered tolerable by some owners. I opted for the VT50 because I thought I was buying the best Panasonic had to offer, and believed it would be better than my ST50, but actually is not. Hope this is something that will be able to be corrected because March Madness is around the corner.
post #10686 of 13474
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

They are not on this site; he posts them on another web site. To assist in the setup of my 55VT50, I created this document from the post on the site:

Panasonic VT50 Series Picture Settings - HighDefJunkies.com (D-Nice) - 2012-03-11.docx 23k .docx file

I updated the attached document to properly align the 10-point gamma settings, as they were not in the correct place, according to the menu system on the TV. A minor annoyance, but I had to do enter the settings several times this weekend for the other inputs and sources, and flipping back and forth was driving me crazy.

Mark
post #10687 of 13474
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Originally Posted by nabsltd View Post

As a container, Matroska is far more versatile than MP4, as you can include pretty much any desired video (MPEG-2, MPEG-4, Theora, etc.) and audio (MP3, AAC, FLAC, AC-3, DTS, TrueHD, DTS-HD, etc.), subtitle format (text, DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.), plus it allows setting of chapter marks and dozens of other features.

Handbrake is nasty as its default settings emit variable frame rate video, which is completely useless when the source is constant frame rate and can cause playback issues on some devices. If you do choose to use Handbrake, disable the variable frame rate, and output to MKV instead of MP4. Personally, I don't use any sort of all-in-one program, as once you have converted one or two movies, you can create batch files and templates that make it just as quick to do things "manually", but allow you full control if you ever need it.

Thanks for the response. I was under the impression the MKV files were so big because they did contain multiple audio/video formats, not necessarily because of higher quality, so I figured... even if the file does have DTS 5.1, it would also have a 2-channel option for the TV to work with. When trying to stream mkv files via DLNA and PS3 Media Server, the VT50 was recognizing them as MPEG-2 video and kept saying it could not read the file. I know that format is not listed in the compatibility specs. I put the same mkv file on an SD card and inserted directly into the TV. It then recognized it as MPEG-4, but although the video looked nice, I couldn't get any sound. I figured perhaps that mkv file only had DTS audio, so that is when i turned to handbrake to start trying to convert.

I had a 4 episode series and used handbrake to convert to MP4 and mix down the audio. It seems to work ok, but for some reason, only the first file was completely converted. The length of the other 3 files were cut waaay short. I don't know of anything i did differently for the last 3, but i confirmed the orig mkv files were full length and after re-running them through handbrake multiple times, they kept cutting them off at the same point. I Searched and searched online and can't find any explanation.

Now, I can't remember if i disabled the variable frame rate, but will be sure to try that. I have NOT tried to keep the same MKV format and then just mix down to a compatible audio option. (Any ideas on a good pass-thru option that would allow me to use the same file with or without the receiver?)

I used MP4, because i was unable to get mkv's into iTunes / WMP (DLNA) much less to stream to the TV. Plus MP4 is compatible with Apple TV, which i have upstairs and may also get one for my VT50. Just trying to get a high quality video with audio that works for both the TV and eventually a receiver. If I can stream it, great. If not, I'll put it on an external drive and connect that way.

By the way, I haven't tried anything with 3D mkv. I haven't seen handbrake mention anything about it and I'm wondering if I should just splurge and get DVD FAB
post #10688 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Hi Deaf View Post

Just zip tie the cables in the middle behind the stand and you won't see them.

Thanks... not a bad tip, except that the power cord is not long enough to do so and I would also need to buy another longer HDMI cable. In addition, I don't like zipping cables together since running them parallel increases the chance of noise.

Another benefit or shrouding this space is that I don't want my backlight reflecting under the TV. If I can work up a simple and good looking shroud, I will post a how to.
post #10689 of 13474
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Originally Posted by stash64 View Post

Thanks... not a bad tip, except that the power cord is not long enough to do so and I would also need to buy another longer HDMI cable. In addition, I don't like zipping cables together since running them parallel increases the chance of noise.

Another benefit or shrouding this space is that I don't want my backlight reflecting under the TV. If I can work up a simple and good looking shroud, I will post a how to.

Some black duvetene material, or velvet, whatever........ and double stick tape or velcro, not a big deal........
post #10690 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey View Post

Thanks for the response. I was under the impression the MKV files were so big because they did contain multiple audio/video formats, not necessarily because of higher quality, so I figured... even if the file does have DTS 5.1, it would also have a 2-channel option for the TV to work with. When trying to stream mkv files via DLNA and PS3 Media Server, the VT50 was recognizing them as MPEG-2 video and kept saying it could not read the file. I know that format is not listed in the compatibility specs. I put the same mkv file on an SD card and inserted directly into the TV. It then recognized it as MPEG-4, but although the video looked nice, I couldn't get any sound. I figured perhaps that mkv file only had DTS audio, so that is when i turned to handbrake to start trying to convert.

I had a 4 episode series and used handbrake to convert to MP4 and mix down the audio. It seems to work ok, but for some reason, only the first file was completely converted. The length of the other 3 files were cut waaay short. I don't know of anything i did differently for the last 3, but i confirmed the orig mkv files were full length and after re-running them through handbrake multiple times, they kept cutting them off at the same point. I Searched and searched online and can't find any explanation.

Now, I can't remember if i disabled the variable frame rate, but will be sure to try that. I have NOT tried to keep the same MKV format and then just mix down to a compatible audio option. (Any ideas on a good pass-thru option that would allow me to use the same file with or without the receiver?)

I used MP4, because i was unable to get mkv's into iTunes / WMP (DLNA) much less to stream to the TV. Plus MP4 is compatible with Apple TV, which i have upstairs and may also get one for my VT50. Just trying to get a high quality video with audio that works for both the TV and eventually a receiver. If I can stream it, great. If not, I'll put it on an external drive and connect that way.

By the way, I haven't tried anything with 3D mkv. I haven't seen handbrake mention anything about it and I'm wondering if I should just splurge and get DVD FAB

have you tried Freemake or Avidemux? I haven't used handbrake but never experienced the issues you mention with these two programs (freeware also). I tried the PS3 media server and DLNA and i could not get the streaming to work without skipping on such a big file. I hvae upgraded my computer since then and haven't tried again so perhaps the processing power on the computer was slowing it up (unlikely). either way, using avidemux for examples keeps the h.264 codec and the DTS 5.1 when it converts to mp4. file sizes stay the same. I transfer to my HD, plug it into my ps3 and off i go. Only other issue is keeping them below 4GB since PS3 requires a FAT32 format for the HD and FAT32 is limited to 4GB.

I'm curious if you can make further progress as i am also looking for a more elegant solution. I will try steaming again with the new compute and see if that changes anything.
post #10691 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey View Post

When trying to stream mkv files via DLNA and PS3 Media Server, the VT50 was recognizing them as MPEG-2 video and kept saying it could not read the file. I know that format is not listed in the compatibility specs. I put the same mkv file on an SD card and inserted directly into the TV. It then recognized it as MPEG-4, but although the video looked nice, I couldn't get any sound. I figured perhaps that mkv file only had DTS audio, so that is when i turned to handbrake to start trying to convert.
When it comes to picture quality and other features (inputs, ATSC tuner quality, etc.), the VT50 is close to perfect. When it comes to playing back media, every single TV on the market is smoked by $100-300 media players.

Spend the money on a Popcorn Hour, Western Digital, Dune, Roku, or some Blu-Ray players, and stop trying to get the TV to do something that it isn't ever going to be very good at. You can find a media player that will connect to the TV via HDMI and decode every audio format to PCM and feed the TV. On the other hand, if you have a full sound system with an AVR, the media player will work with that too.

If you want to play back on a phone, tablet, etc., then set up a DLNA server and tell it to convert pretty much everything to the lower quality for those devices. Just don't stream to your "home theater" via DLNA. Instead, use shared folders and play back the original files. It's often hard to configure the DLNA server to convert only the formats that need converting and leave the others untouched. Any decent media player will handle pretty much every format, so there isn't any need to convert to allow playback (although you might want to convert to save disk space). Also, you often lose functionality like chapters, subtitles, etc., when streaming via DLNA.

As I mentioned before, I do everything manually, but my toolchain is pretty simple: AnyDVD for decrypting, eac3to/DVD Shrink for extracting from Blu-Ray/DVD, ffmsindex to create the frame index, AVIsynth for DVD de-interlacing and other processing, x264 for encoding, and mkvmerge GUI to put the encoded video back together with the ripped audio and subtitles (which I generally don't touch at all). You can use pretty much the defaults on everything but x264 (where you just have to pick the preset and CRF value that do the job for you, and use that on every encode) and end up with great quality, while still having the ability to tweak as much as you want.

Also, most media players don't need any of this, as if you have an un-encrypted source, you can just take it and re-mux using mkvmerge GUI and the resulting file will play back, as every playback problem I have ever had was because the container had some wrong setting, not because the video or audio format wasn't recognized.
post #10692 of 13474
I'm having some trouble with the new soundbar I purchased (Yamaha YSP-3300). I can't get the ARC to send the audio from the TV to the Soundbar.

This is my setup:

DISH Hopper ---> Yamaha RX-A1000 ---> Yamaha YSP-3300 ---> Panasonic 65VT50
LG Blu-Ray ---^

Watching Signal from the Hopper or the LG is no problem. HDMI from the Soundbar is plugged into HDMI 2 (ARC) on the Panasonic.

When I want to watch a signal directly from the Panasonic (ie VUDU on the Internet), I get no sound out of the YSP Speakers

I tried tried every combination of "TV" and "Home Theater" for the TV Speakers, no luck. I do see the Soundbar switch from HDMI 1 to the "TV" input when I access the online stuff through the TV. But no audio.

One other item, when I turn the TV off the Soundbar also turns off. But it does not turn ON when I turn the TV on.

I've tried 2 different HDMI cables between the TV and the Soundbar, they are both fairly new.

Thanks
post #10693 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post

I'm having some trouble with the new soundbar I purchased (Yamaha YSP-3300). I can't get the ARC to send the audio from the TV to the Soundbar.

This is my setup:

DISH Hopper ---> Yamaha RX-A1000 ---> Yamaha YSP-3300 ---> Panasonic 65VT50
LG Blu-Ray ---^

Watching Signal from the Hopper or the LG is no problem. HDMI from the Soundbar is plugged into HDMI 2 (ARC) on the Panasonic.

When I want to watch a signal directly from the Panasonic (ie VUDU on the Internet), I get no sound out of the YSP Speakers

I tried tried every combination of "TV" and "Home Theater" for the TV Speakers, no luck. I do see the Soundbar switch from HDMI 1 to the "TV" input when I access the online stuff through the TV. But no audio.

One other item, when I turn the TV off the Soundbar also turns off. But it does not turn ON when I turn the TV on.

I've tried 2 different HDMI cables between the TV and the Soundbar, they are both fairly new.

Thanks

Couple of things to check:

ARC is turned on in the receiver.
HDMI Control is turned on in the receiver.
HDMI cable used between TV ARC and Receiver is a highspeed or 1.4 HDMI cable.
Do run all components to the Receiver and only one highspeed hdmi cable between TV ARC and Receiver.
post #10694 of 13474
I think I posted what follows in the wrong place in the plasma forum area.....

Well, I just had my new 65 inch vt50 installed today and I have to tell you my initial thoughts are ... that I am kind of disappointed. I bought unseen after reading so many glaring reviews at a lot of different sites. In all honesty, I took down a 2008 60 Inch Kuro and replaced it with the VT50. Wow....I saw an immediate difference in picture quality. The VT50 was darn right dull in picture appearance- like you needed glasses - when compared to the picture of the Kuro. I did notice that moving between picture mode options did help, but none of them offered the crisp edges and color-pop that the older Kuro did. Have I been spoiled for life, or does one get used to different TV's?

There is no doubt that the VT50 has some wonderful qualities....so I am not giving up on it and I sure am going to try to get used to things and fine-tune the VT50, but I need some suggestions. I am somewhat new to the whole forum thing, so I would like to ask for assistance in the sense that I would like to be pointed in the right direction. I have never calibrated a TV before - so I need some help in that area. I have never really moved beyond the adjustments one finds under the THX, Vivid, Cinema, and so forth (the modes). I would assume that there is an entirely different level at which calibration is accomplished.

I was also wondering in anyone else in here went from a Kuro to the VT50 - I would welcome your comments....it might be nice to know that I am not the only one who notices a big difference (please confirm that am not I crazy). Any other comments that might help get my TV pq to look better would be welcomed...and I apologize if I am covering ground that has been discussed to death in here. I'm just trying to cut to the chase before having to pour over hundreds of entries. Thanks for your consideration and advice in advance. In all fairness, by VT50 is located in a rather bright living room (large bay window to one side of it), but so was the Kuro...same exact location.

Also, one last issue that I forgot to ask the installers about - breaking in a new plasma. Are these newer plasmas beyond the scary break-in period things now-a-days? I mean, does one still have to break in a new plasma with special considerations, or special burn-in times like the Kuro required? If so, could someone please offer me the best way to do this in order to ensure proper use for years to come?

Again, regards and thanks to everyone who might have some suggestions.
post #10695 of 13474
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Originally Posted by socman View Post

I think I posted what follows in the wrong place in the plasma forum area.....

Well, I just had my new 65 inch vt50 installed today and I have to tell you my initial thoughts are ... that I am kind of disappointed. I bought unseen after reading so many glaring reviews at a lot of different sites. In all honesty, I took down a 2008 60 Inch Kuro and replaced it with the VT50. Wow....I saw an immediate difference in picture quality. The VT50 was darn right dull in picture appearance- like you needed glasses - when compared to the picture of the Kuro. I did notice that moving between picture mode options did help, but none of them offered the crisp edges and color-pop that the older Kuro did. Have I been spoiled for life, or does one get used to different TV's?

.

the crips edges and color-pop never came out in my vt50 untill I plugged in the settings from Robnix and then D-Nice. Afterwards, there was pop and WAF biggrin.gif



edit: you can find Robnix's settings herehttp://www.avsforum.com/t/1410156/the-official-panasonic-vt50-settings-thread/780

Also, you may want to fool around in all the advanced settings on the custom mod if you want to play with pop and you don't care about color settings - for instance you can put panel brightness on high and tweak from there if you want a sunburn smile.gif
Edited by mo949 - 3/5/13 at 11:47am
post #10696 of 13474
socman, plug in these settings from d-nice and see how you like them. As far as break in, for the first 100 hours, just vary your programs, and limit programs that have bright static logos and movies with black bars. You'll then be good to go.

Picture
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 60 (58 for 65” models)
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Normal
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off

Pro Settings
Colorspace: Normal

W/B High R: 8
W/B High G: 0
W/B High B: -23
W/B Low R: 0
W/B Low G: 0
W/B Low B: 0

10 Point W/B
10 W/B R: 7
10 W/B G: 0
10 W/B B: 17

20 W/B R: 4
20 W/B G: 0
20 W/B B: 4

30 W/B R: 5
30 W/B G: 0
30 W/B B: 5

40 W/B R: 3
40 W/B G: 0
40 W/B B: 4

50 W/B R: 1
50 W/B G: 0
50 W/B B: 3

60 W/B R: -1
60 W/B G: 0
60 W/B B: 5

70 W/B R: 0
70 W/B G: 0
70 W/B B: 5

80 W/B R: -3
80 W/B G: 0
80 W/B B: 4

90 W/B R: -3
90 W/B G: 1
90 W/B B: 6

100 W/B R: -4
100 W/B G: 0
100 W/B B: 4

10 Point Gamma
10 Gain: -22
20 Gain: -14
30 Gain: -9
40 Gain: -7
50 Gain: -4
60 Gain: -1
70 Gain: 1
80 Gain: -1
90 Gain: 0
100 Gain: 0

CMS
R-Hue:-3
R-Sat: -7
R-Lum: -6

G-Hue: 15
G-Sat: 4
G-Lum: -4

B-Hue: 1
B-Sat: 3
B-Lum: -6

Y-Hue: 4
Y-Sat: 0
Y-Lum: 3

C-Hue: -3
C-Sat: -1
C-Lum: 2

M-Hue: 0
M-Sat: 0
M-Lum: 1

Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.6 (2.4 for 65” models)
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0

HDMI Settings
***Leave all settings in this menu at their default***

Advance Picture
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 PullDown: Auto
post #10697 of 13474
I thought the same thing you did, and once I tuned to custom mode and used Cnet's picture settings, the picture got much better..I think that you will find it much closer
to the Kuros PQ once you do that.. I think that they suggest that you not do that yet until about 100 hours have passed, watching it in thx mode or standard mode.. My friend
had a kuro, and from what i remember, the only thing i noticed was his blacks were a bit darker, but the colors and everything else seemed about the same as this tv. I think
the styling and efficently of this tv more than make up for that.. And YES image burn in, is an issue with these tvs,, I have had it on my GT50, and know other people that have as well,, just make sure you don't watch any letter bar programming or anything with logos on it, for the first 100 hrs and even after that, if you end up watching a long movie with a logo, i would use the IR built in wiper after that, (if that even works). lol
post #10698 of 13474
Quote:
Originally Posted by socman View Post

I think I posted what follows in the wrong place in the plasma forum area.....

Well, I just had my new 65 inch vt50 installed today and I have to tell you my initial thoughts are ... that I am kind of disappointed. I bought unseen after reading so many glaring reviews at a lot of different sites. In all honesty, I took down a 2008 60 Inch Kuro and replaced it with the VT50. Wow....I saw an immediate difference in picture quality. The VT50 was darn right dull in picture appearance- like you needed glasses - when compared to the picture of the Kuro. I did notice that moving between picture mode options did help, but none of them offered the crisp edges and color-pop that the older Kuro did. Have I been spoiled for life, or does one get used to different TV's?

There is no doubt that the VT50 has some wonderful qualities....so I am not giving up on it and I sure am going to try to get used to things and fine-tune the VT50, but I need some suggestions. I am somewhat new to the whole forum thing, so I would like to ask for assistance in the sense that I would like to be pointed in the right direction. I have never calibrated a TV before - so I need some help in that area. I have never really moved beyond the adjustments one finds under the THX, Vivid, Cinema, and so forth (the modes). I would assume that there is an entirely different level at which calibration is accomplished.

I was also wondering in anyone else in here went from a Kuro to the VT50 - I would welcome your comments....it might be nice to know that I am not the only one who notices a big difference (please confirm that am not I crazy). Any other comments that might help get my TV pq to look better would be welcomed...and I apologize if I am covering ground that has been discussed to death in here. I'm just trying to cut to the chase before having to pour over hundreds of entries. Thanks for your consideration and advice in advance. In all fairness, by VT50 is located in a rather bright living room (large bay window to one side of it), but so was the Kuro...same exact location.

Also, one last issue that I forgot to ask the installers about - breaking in a new plasma. Are these newer plasmas beyond the scary break-in period things now-a-days? I mean, does one still have to break in a new plasma with special considerations, or special burn-in times like the Kuro required? If so, could someone please offer me the best way to do this in order to ensure proper use for years to come?

Again, regards and thanks to everyone who might have some suggestions.

I'm coming from kuro the VT50!wont be comparable to kuro until 100-200hr break in, PQ does in fact get much better. Colors on VT50 are noticeably better after that and the VT is brighter. Kuro is more crisp, black are darker and kiro processing is still unmatched especially when gaming. After a few weeks you won't regret retiring the Kuro because the VT50 has its strengths over the Kuro that will satisfy Kuro owners. Check out my YouTube channel(PROPHETGEEK33) I did a few comparisons of the 2.
post #10699 of 13474
Hey guys, what do you recommend I buy to clean the screen?
post #10700 of 13474
Also, the default setting of Standard is absolutely terrible. If you were doing the comparison in that setting, that would explain it.
post #10701 of 13474
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Originally Posted by tcramer View Post

Also, the default setting of Standard is absolutely terrible. If you were doing the comparison in that setting, that would explain it.
I agree. I suspect that mode exists purely so that the TV can comply with Energy Star ratings. It shouldn't be used for viewing...it's much too dim.
post #10702 of 13474
Thanks to all of you who have replied - - I was told not to use anything but the standard mode for the first 100 hours, and to not watch anything with the side- or top-bars. I am very pleased to hear that what I am seeing in picture quality will eventually turn out to be much better. I agree that the VT50 is an improvement over the Kuro - some of the features are just something the Kuro will never have, and that is why I opted to purchase the VT50. I also noticed (lately) that the Kuro really does have a significant "buzz factor" that can clearly be heard if you sit within six feet of the panel - and I did not. I watched a little more programming this afternoon in standard mode, and, while certainly not great, I found myself getting along ok with it. I will certainly calibrate the television with the settings that "Hi Deaf" provided - but only after the 100 hours of burn-in.

I tried cleaning the glass with a micro cloth/clearner solution recommended by BestBuy, and I already see streaking on the glass - is there a good, better, best solution for cleaning the VT50 glass panel? I know that I am supposed to clean (only) a panel that is cool to the touch.

Again, thanks to all of you who offered information and encouragement...I really was freaking out when I first turned on the set....it was like super buyer's remorse and I immediately thought - - "Should I tell them to put the Kuro back up? It's kind of comforting to know that the Kuro is in my second bedroom and is plugged into local cable (yech), and a Blue-ray DVD player...just in case I miss the "good old Kuro days".

Thanks again to everyone for your help and kind words of encouragement,

Roger
post #10703 of 13474
Hope you enjoy the screen. Can only addionally recommend you throw out all those break in suggestions and turn your tv onto a pleasing mode immediately and start truly enjoying your tv. =]

The only caution would be not to leave things on the screen for long (like pausing the tv for an hour) and to vary the aspect ratio of your content if you watch cinematic movies much. Anything that 'sticks' a bit will wash itself away with varied usage and probably won't be noticeable unless you throw a slide up to see it.
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Hope you enjoy the screen. Can only addionally recommend you throw out all those break in suggestions and turn your tv onto a pleasing mode immediately and start truly enjoying your tv. =]

The only caution would be not to leave things on the screen for long (like pausing the tv for an hour) and to vary the aspect ratio of your content if you watch cinematic movies much. Anything that 'sticks' a bit will wash itself away with varied usage and probably won't be noticeable unless you throw a slide up to see it.

Agreed. Running "Standard" mode for the first 100 hours exclusively is completely unnecessary.
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I'd also suggest not using the "screen cleaners". It's best to use just a dry microfiber cloth, if possible. If you do need a liquid, the ideal thing to use is a few dabs of distilled water.
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Agreed. Running "Standard" mode for the first 100 hours exclusively is completely unnecessary.

+1

I would only be wary of the few channels that still use bright white logos.
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You can use distilled water with the micro fiber cloth to clean the screen.
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Just ordered one of these baby's from Cleveland Plasma, can't wait to get it.
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Originally Posted by socman View Post

Thanks to all of you who have replied - - I was told not to use anything but the standard mode for the first 100 hours, and to not watch anything with the side- or top-bars. I am very pleased to hear that what I am seeing in picture quality will eventually turn out to be much better. I agree that the VT50 is an improvement over the Kuro - some of the features are just something the Kuro will never have, and that is why I opted to purchase the VT50. I also noticed (lately) that the Kuro really does have a significant "buzz factor" that can clearly be heard if you sit within six feet of the panel - and I did not. I watched a little more programming this afternoon in standard mode, and, while certainly not great, I found myself getting along ok with it. I will certainly calibrate the television with the settings that "Hi Deaf" provided - but only after the 100 hours of burn-in.

I tried cleaning the glass with a micro cloth/clearner solution recommended by BestBuy, and I already see streaking on the glass - is there a good, better, best solution for cleaning the VT50 glass panel? I know that I am supposed to clean (only) a panel that is cool to the touch.

Again, thanks to all of you who offered information and encouragement...I really was freaking out when I first turned on the set....it was like super buyer's remorse and I immediately thought - - "Should I tell them to put the Kuro back up? It's kind of comforting to know that the Kuro is in my second bedroom and is plugged into local cable (yech), and a Blue-ray DVD player...just in case I miss the "good old Kuro days".

Thanks again to everyone for your help and kind words of encouragement,

Roger

The anti reflective coat on the VT is very similar to kuros anti reflective coat so whatever you used on the Kuro use on the VT
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Its simple, micro fiber cloth as needed for dust. If you have dried dog slobber (dont ask), use distilled water when the screen is cool.
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