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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Hope you enjoy the screen. Can only addionally recommend you throw out all those break in suggestions and turn your tv onto a pleasing mode immediately and start truly enjoying your tv. =]

The only caution would be not to leave things on the screen for long (like pausing the tv for an hour) and to vary the aspect ratio of your content if you watch cinematic movies much. Anything that 'sticks' a bit will wash itself away with varied usage and probably won't be noticeable unless you throw a slide up to see it.

Agreed. Running "Standard" mode for the first 100 hours exclusively is completely unnecessary.
post #10712 of 12285
I'd also suggest not using the "screen cleaners". It's best to use just a dry microfiber cloth, if possible. If you do need a liquid, the ideal thing to use is a few dabs of distilled water.
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Originally Posted by DWBoston View Post

Agreed. Running "Standard" mode for the first 100 hours exclusively is completely unnecessary.

+1

I would only be wary of the few channels that still use bright white logos.
post #10714 of 12285
You can use distilled water with the micro fiber cloth to clean the screen.
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Just ordered one of these baby's from Cleveland Plasma, can't wait to get it.
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Originally Posted by socman View Post

Thanks to all of you who have replied - - I was told not to use anything but the standard mode for the first 100 hours, and to not watch anything with the side- or top-bars. I am very pleased to hear that what I am seeing in picture quality will eventually turn out to be much better. I agree that the VT50 is an improvement over the Kuro - some of the features are just something the Kuro will never have, and that is why I opted to purchase the VT50. I also noticed (lately) that the Kuro really does have a significant "buzz factor" that can clearly be heard if you sit within six feet of the panel - and I did not. I watched a little more programming this afternoon in standard mode, and, while certainly not great, I found myself getting along ok with it. I will certainly calibrate the television with the settings that "Hi Deaf" provided - but only after the 100 hours of burn-in.

I tried cleaning the glass with a micro cloth/clearner solution recommended by BestBuy, and I already see streaking on the glass - is there a good, better, best solution for cleaning the VT50 glass panel? I know that I am supposed to clean (only) a panel that is cool to the touch.

Again, thanks to all of you who offered information and encouragement...I really was freaking out when I first turned on the set....it was like super buyer's remorse and I immediately thought - - "Should I tell them to put the Kuro back up? It's kind of comforting to know that the Kuro is in my second bedroom and is plugged into local cable (yech), and a Blue-ray DVD player...just in case I miss the "good old Kuro days".

Thanks again to everyone for your help and kind words of encouragement,

Roger

The anti reflective coat on the VT is very similar to kuros anti reflective coat so whatever you used on the Kuro use on the VT
post #10717 of 12285
Its simple, micro fiber cloth as needed for dust. If you have dried dog slobber (dont ask), use distilled water when the screen is cool.
post #10718 of 12285
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Its simple, micro fiber cloth as needed for dust. If you have dried dog slobber (dont ask), use distilled water when the screen is cool.
... and don't go past damp when you use the distiled water and microfiber cloth. wink.gif
post #10719 of 12285
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

... and don't go past damp when you use the distiled water and microfiber cloth. wink.gif

LOL. Yeah, you aint washing a car.
post #10720 of 12285
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Its simple, micro fiber cloth as needed for dust. If you have dried dog slobber (dont ask), use distilled water when the screen is cool.
My old CRT couldn't go a week without needing a dusting, but the VT50 get about 1/10 as much in a month, so without the kids, dogs (we used to have Great Danes, so I know what you mean), etc., I think it could go 3 months between cleanings.
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Originally Posted by nabsltd View Post

My old CRT couldn't go a week without needing a dusting, but the VT50 get about 1/10 as much in a month, so without the kids, dogs (we used to have Great Danes, so I know what you mean), etc., I think it could go 3 months between cleanings.
I would at least dust the vents more than that. Particularly the one on top that is at about a 45 degree angle.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

... and don't go past damp when you use the distiled water and microfiber cloth. wink.gif

This is a subject that is really interesting, as recently I did a lot of "google" searching, and found a ton of opposing opinions, making it even more confusing. In an environment with some cigarette smoke, and dirty city air, water is not always enough for cleaning. In my case I wanted to remove the streaks that occurred on my previous 37" Aquos LCD HDTV. These streaks were a result of using two products that claim to be designed for both LCD and Plasma displays. One is "iKlear" (used to be sold in the Apple Stores) the other "Monster". Both act like a light polish, and you have to work fast to put it on in a circular fashion and then keep buffing until you think it is gone. While the "cleaning" effect seems to be ok at first, later when viewing the TV "off", in the proper lighting, you can always see streaks. This really bothered me, and I really wanted to remove those streaks. Using the same products again, doing small areas at a time, just keep adding streaks, could never get rid of them. Almost like an old WAX, on a car.

That's when I did more homework, and you'll find some "experts" and articles recommending things like a 50/50 homemade solution of distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, which did NOT seem like a good idea. Most manufacture's don't tell you what kind of coating they may be using, anti-glare or whatever on their screens, and using any type of alcohol, just seemed like a RISK to me!

So, I opted for some advice that I thought would be non-destructive, and that was a 50/50 solution of distilled water and white vinegar. I used this to remove all the iKlear and Monster crap on the Sharp, and it worked great. But I am certainly not sure what using this solution would do to an anti-glare coating down the road, as I'm no chemist. It did however remove all the old polish, and NO more streaks. I am NO longer going to use any polish products as I don't care for streaks, and I think it just builds up, no matter how many people say you can safely use these products, they may be safe, but they leave residual, you can see, and it's dam hard to remove.

Since I'm giving away the old Sharp, and just bought the VT50, I'm not touching it, till I need to, and of course will try distilled water first, but if and when I need to do a deeper cleaning, I'm still not sure what would be best, after water.
post #10723 of 12285
Yes, the best way to clean a screen is to avoid needing to do it wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Yes, the best way to clean a screen is to avoid needing to do it wink.gif

True indeed, BUT....................
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Yes, the best way to clean a screen is to avoid needing to do it wink.gif

True,, you can just keep it sealed in the box! lol
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Originally Posted by Tony1 View Post

True,, you can just keep it sealed in the box! lol

WOW, maybe that's why I thought it needed to cleaned in the first place! Once I took the plastic off, the picture cleared right up......rolleyes.gif
post #10727 of 12285
First time here. I have 2 big concerns.

1. I am in the 100 hour breakin period. Can you go to any picture mode, tweak all settings to whatever you want (experiment in the 100 hr break-in period) and not worry at all that you are messing with the phospers or anything? Are Extended logos the only problem.?
AND
2. I was about 30 hours in the breakin period and my kid slipped in and played 1hour and 15 minutes in game mode a baseball game (bright white /green colors. I noticed the contrast ratio in that mode is 100 and sharpness 75. I am still within the 30-day trial period to take it back (9) days. Could this have hurt the TV in any way. I am very concerned that this incident may have (even if only slightly ) damaged the TV. Any help? Probably no way to tell? Time -running out Thanks Arnie
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First time here. I have 2 big concerns.

1. Iam in the 100 hour breakin period. Can you go to any picture mode, tweak all settings to whatever you want (experiment in the 100 hr break-in period) and not worry at all that you are messing with the phospers or anything? Are Extended logos the only problem.?
AND
2. I was about 30 hours in the breakin period and my kid slipped in and played 1hour and 15 minutes in game mode a baseball game (bright white /green colors. I noticed the contrast ratio in that mode is 100 and sharpness 75. I am still within the 30-day trial period to take it back (9) days. Could this have hurt the TV in any way. I am very concerned that this incident may have (even if only slightly ) damaged the TV. Any help? Probably no way to tell? Time -running out Thanks Arnie
post #10729 of 12285
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Originally Posted by ajuice View Post

First time here. I have 2 big concerns.

1. Iam in the 100 hour breakin period. Can you go to any picture mode, tweak all settings to whatever you want (experiment in the 100 hr break-in period) and not worry at all that you are messing with the phospers or anything? Are Extended logos the only problem.?
AND
2. I was about 30 hours in the breakin period and my kid slipped in and played 1hour and 15 minutes in game mode a baseball game (bright white /green colors. I noticed the contrast ratio in that mode is 100 and sharpness 75. I am still within the 30-day trial period to take it back (9) days. Could this have hurt the TV in any way. I am very concerned that this incident may have (even if only slightly ) damaged the TV. Any help? Probably no way to tell? Time -running out Thanks Arnie

return a TV because your son played a game for 1 hour ? You are kidding, right ? No wonder why return policies are changing in USA...
post #10730 of 12285
both concerns are not issues....you can't damage it like that. My wife watches the exact same channel (HGTV) with its logo almost exclusively all day. No problems, no worries. I watch movies at night and that undoes any IR she would have caused (which I've never seen in normal viewing).
post #10731 of 12285
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Originally Posted by ajuice View Post

First time here. I have 2 big concerns.

1. Iam in the 100 hour breakin period. Can you go to any picture mode, tweak all settings to whatever you want (experiment in the 100 hr break-in period) and not worry at all that you are messing with the phospers or anything? Are Extended logos the only problem.?
AND
2. I was about 30 hours in the breakin period and my kid slipped in and played 1hour and 15 minutes in game mode a baseball game (bright white /green colors. I noticed the contrast ratio in that mode is 100 and sharpness 75. I am still within the 30-day trial period to take it back (9) days. Could this have hurt the TV in any way. I am very concerned that this incident may have (even if only slightly ) damaged the TV. Any help? Probably no way to tell? Time -running out Thanks Arnie

1. I would suggest right down all your settings prior to changing them in case you want certain modes back to default. What do you mean by breaking? Slides or regular content viewing? If your watching regular content you should just watched in THX cinema or cinema mode for the first 200 hrs, than dial in any pro settings in custom mode. Honestly all I did was not watched 4:3 content the first 200 hrs and that's it. I watched everything else ,bluray, movies with black bars, hd channels with logos and even gamed and the TV was totally fine.

2. Do you see any IR? In watching regular content? If not, than there is nothing to worry about, if you do , there is still nothing to worry about, just watch full screen content and you will be fine. There is no way you can hurt a tv by playing a game for 1 hr or so. By the way I own the GT50 but its pretty much the same way.
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Originally Posted by nabsltd View Post

My old CRT couldn't go a week without needing a dusting, but the VT50 get about 1/10 as much in a month, so without the kids, dogs (we used to have Great Danes, so I know what you mean), etc., I think it could go 3 months between cleanings.

I usually do a basic wipe for dust every 2 weeks or so (very little dust usually on the plasma screen), and nothing else. Biggest mistake Ive seen with the screen cleaning kits is not using the fluid causes damage, people use it on a warm screen and it streaks. Very hard to get off.
post #10733 of 12285
Thanks alot. I'm an older guy who just bought my first HDTV and I went all the way with the PVT 50.

Are there any threads that discuss the viewing difference between 55" and 65" and is it worth an extra $1000+? I sit 8-10 ft. away. Thanks again!! AJ
post #10734 of 12285
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Originally Posted by ajuice View Post

Thanks alot. I'm an older guy who just bought my first HDTV and I went all the way with the PVT 50.

Are there any threads that discuss the viewing difference between 55" and 65" and is it worth an extra $1000+? I sit 8-10 ft. away. Thanks again!! AJ

I sit a little over 11 feet. Had a Sony 55 SXRD, wanted a little more picture area so went with the 65. No regrets and no issues. had the tv sitting more like 9 foot or so on the stand until I could get the outlets and bracket mounted on the wall and when i watched tv at that distance I didn't not like it at that distance. My 2 cents... I'm happy....

Here is a viewing distance calculator that I used to help me see if I was out in left field:

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html
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Got my 65vt50 yesterday and all I can say is WOW!!! First I didn't expect it to be as big as it is. I had a 55" and those 10 inches seem like way more than that, the TV is huge!!! Turned it on very quickly before I signed for it to make sure it worked. Turned on fine and SmartViera logo popped up, I turned it off. Got my wall mount installed and all my AV connections correct. Finally was able to turn it on after about 6hrs to warm up and was blown away. Also just hooked up a new OPPO 103 and am very happy with that!! I took an HDMI out of my cable box to the HDMI in on the Oppo. Then an hdmi out of the Oppo HDMI 1 into my harmon kardon AVR2650, then one to the ARC on the VT50. Got the cable box resolution set to auto and the oppo set to 1080p. Huge improvement!! Cable looks almost like a blu-ray now, very pleased!!! Was just going to run full screen HD content to break in for 100 hrs before calibration. Had HBO tuned in and set picture size to zoom just in case of black bars. Well I woke up in the middle of the night and almost freaked out!!! Somehow the cable connection at the box had gotten loose and I got a "HBO currently not available" form my box. I think after about 10 minutes the screen saver on the cable box kicked in and the screen goes black, with a logo that bounces over the screen. I don't think it caused any real damage, not that I can tell anyway. So then I decide to use Netflix and stream the whole series of "Lost". Well needless to say that doesn't work either. Even though a new episode starts automatically in 20 secs after the old one ends, somehow netflix times out as well. Came in the house and had a "Are you still watching Netflix" message on a frozen screen. Max it was on there was for ten minutes, but again my heart drops!!! Finally I said enough with it and put the d-nice slides into the TV and have been running the slides all day. Don't see anything that resembles IR, so I think it's all good!! Sorry for the long post but jsut had to vent, my wife thinks I'm crazy!!!biggrin.gif
post #10736 of 12285
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Originally Posted by maygit View Post

I have the exact same thing going on with my set and i've just kind of taken it as a normal part of the filter. I can usually only see it on a white background. I've had my set since October and it's been on for 300 hours or so (I don't use it heavily). If you follow up through panasonic or if it goes away, let me know.


Booked a service call with Panasonic last week and got a call back yesterday, they will be picking it up next week to run some checks on TV boards(no idea what that is)...
Will keep you posted.

P.S. Another disappointment with Australian VT50's you can't calibrate them mad.gif
Edited by sidsuri - 3/6/13 at 9:25pm
post #10737 of 12285
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Originally Posted by Mactavish View Post

This is a subject that is really interesting, as recently I did a lot of "google" searching, and found a ton of opposing opinions, making it even more confusing. In an environment with some cigarette smoke, and dirty city air, water is not always enough for cleaning. In my case I wanted to remove the streaks that occurred on my previous 37" Aquos LCD HDTV. These streaks were a result of using two products that claim to be designed for both LCD and Plasma displays. One is "iKlear" (used to be sold in the Apple Stores) the other "Monster". Both act like a light polish, and you have to work fast to put it on in a circular fashion and then keep buffing until you think it is gone. While the "cleaning" effect seems to be ok at first, later when viewing the TV "off", in the proper lighting, you can always see streaks. This really bothered me, and I really wanted to remove those streaks. Using the same products again, doing small areas at a time, just keep adding streaks, could never get rid of them. Almost like an old WAX, on a car.

That's when I did more homework, and you'll find some "experts" and articles recommending things like a 50/50 homemade solution of distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, which did NOT seem like a good idea. Most manufacture's don't tell you what kind of coating they may be using, anti-glare or whatever on their screens, and using any type of alcohol, just seemed like a RISK to me!

So, I opted for some advice that I thought would be non-destructive, and that was a 50/50 solution of distilled water and white vinegar. I used this to remove all the iKlear and Monster crap on the Sharp, and it worked great. But I am certainly not sure what using this solution would do to an anti-glare coating down the road, as I'm no chemist. It did however remove all the old polish, and NO more streaks. I am NO longer going to use any polish products as I don't care for streaks, and I think it just builds up, no matter how many people say you can safely use these products, they may be safe, but they leave residual, you can see, and it's dam hard to remove.

Since I'm giving away the old Sharp, and just bought the VT50, I'm not touching it, till I need to, and of course will try distilled water first, but if and when I need to do a deeper cleaning, I'm still not sure what would be best, after water.
All those LCD screen cleaners streak. Theyre garbage. I use water and a little liquid laundry detergent. Been doing it for years and works great.
post #10738 of 12285
I just finished watching Wreck it Ralph, on my new 65" VT50 I used the setting from this thread holly color explosion batman. Wow was it eye candy.
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Originally Posted by Metalbender View Post

I just finished watching Wreck it Ralph, on my new 65" VT50 I used the setting from this thread holly color explosion batman. Wow was it eye candy.


What post number has the settings you used?

Thanks in advance.
post #10740 of 12285
Well these VT50 are just about gone............Nice run Panasonic wink.gif Nice run !
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