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post #10741 of 13457
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

I recommend you look at the harmony 650 as the spiritual successor
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post #10742 of 13457
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

I recommend you look at the harmony 650 as the spiritual successor

Thanks, mo949 and Bond 007 (that Blue Angels flyby photo is great!)

A few questions about the Harmony...

Can it be programmed via IR learning or is it all done off their website?

I know there's been a lot of discussions on the issue I've had with calling for a specific input, even on the Harmony. Has anyone here with a Harmony had the same problem with the VT50 not recognizing an input selection after a power-on command?

My local high-end home theater store does not recommend the Harmony, they said it incorporates mostly toggle commands rather than discretes, this allows your system to get out of sync with commands. They say any remote that needs a "HELP" button is not worth considering. (of course, they might be badmouthing the Harmony because they want to sell another line).

I also have an OPPO BDP-105 in my system. I bought a remote for the earlier BDP-83 because it has discrete on/off buttons (these were removed to fit the Netflix and VUDU access buttons on the newer remote). Will I be able to add the BDP-83 to my component list on the Harmony website and embed 83 commands into a 105 macro string?

Cheers,
Paul Kile
post #10743 of 13457
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Originally Posted by FunLovinAV View Post


Thanks folks. I do not live at a higher altitude. I have already tried unplugging the local electronics as I initially thought the buzzing may be due to some sort of shielding problem, but that didn't help, and I think its a safe assumption that my other TV, cable box, and BD player are adequately shielded. Nothing else is plugged into the circuit. At this point I really believe that the inductors or transformers inside the VT50 are faulty.

In case anyone was following the problem with my initial VT50, the replacement arrived yesterday and it is perfect. The buzzing on the new set is very minor and inaudible when listening to normal content at reasonable volume at a reasonable distance. I'm thrilled. The initial set was clearly defective. Thanks all!
post #10744 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Paul Kile View Post

Thanks, mo949 and Bond 007 (that Blue Angels flyby photo is great!)

A few questions about the Harmony...

Can it be programmed via IR learning or is it all done off their website?

I know there's been a lot of discussions on the issue I've had with calling for a specific input, even on the Harmony. Has anyone here with a Harmony had the same problem with the VT50 not recognizing an input selection after a power-on command?

My local high-end home theater store does not recommend the Harmony, they said it incorporates mostly toggle commands rather than discretes, this allows your system to get out of sync with commands. They say any remote that needs a "HELP" button is not worth considering. (of course, they might be badmouthing the Harmony because they want to sell another line).

I also have an OPPO BDP-105 in my system. I bought a remote for the earlier BDP-83 because it has discrete on/off buttons (these were removed to fit the Netflix and VUDU access buttons on the newer remote). Will I be able to add the BDP-83 to my component list on the Harmony website and embed 83 commands into a 105 macro string?

Cheers,
Paul Kile
The 650 is also a learning remote. It will learn any command as long as you have the original remote.
For power you can program discrete or toggle for each component.
You should be able to add either one of the Oppo to the Harmony. The website has the programming for something crazy like 25,000 devices. I dont know how many commands you can fit into a macro string.
I have not had any real issues with my 650 and my devices and there are plenty of other people who will say the same. You should pick up a 650 and try it out. If you dont like it. Return it. But I think it would be better than what you have now.
post #10745 of 13457
Hello everyone... I have had a 65 vt50 since June and Im barely noticing these weird artifacts when ever I have a blue or green slide on my screen. Has anybody else seen this type of issue? Is my tv deffective? Any input would be appreciated.




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post #10746 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Paul Kile View Post

Thanks, mo949 and Bond 007 (that Blue Angels flyby photo is great!)

A few questions about the Harmony...

Can it be programmed via IR learning or is it all done off their website?

I know there's been a lot of discussions on the issue I've had with calling for a specific input, even on the Harmony. Has anyone here with a Harmony had the same problem with the VT50 not recognizing an input selection after a power-on command?

My local high-end home theater store does not recommend the Harmony, they said it incorporates mostly toggle commands rather than discretes, this allows your system to get out of sync with commands. They say any remote that needs a "HELP" button is not worth considering. (of course, they might be badmouthing the Harmony because they want to sell another line).

I also have an OPPO BDP-105 in my system. I bought a remote for the earlier BDP-83 because it has discrete on/off buttons (these were removed to fit the Netflix and VUDU access buttons on the newer remote). Will I be able to add the BDP-83 to my component list on the Harmony website and embed 83 commands into a 105 macro string?

Cheers,
Paul Kile

It can do IT - and I had the same question when I transitioned a few years ago since I had an aging remote like yourself wink.gif However, you'll be thankful that you'll likely never need to use the IR learn feature - it really is that well done. When I switch components now the 'updating' of my remote is literally under 15 minutes to get the new component such as a new AVR into the mix.

regarding the out of synch thing they are right they are more sensitive - itsbasically just saying when you hold your hand in front of the remote while its executing a macro and it misses a command then its now out of synch (ie the remote thinks the tv is on, but it missed that command and is not so you have to go turn it on manually). The help button intelligently helps fix the synch issue, but you certainly could just go execute the command yourself like you would on another remote. There are super expensive options out there, but for around 50$ and to have it act like a normal remote and not look weird I think you'll find the 650 is closest to the old school feel you are used to - and the software you'll find is quite good at handling changes to your system and is the real gem that you'll learn to love if you ever upgrade anything.

edit: oops, I see Bond beat me to the punch and summed it up more succinctly.
post #10747 of 13457
Thanks, mo and 007

You've just about sold me. The only thing I still question is reviewers are saying the 650 is limited to 5 commands in a macro string. I assume this would be "custom" macros and not the length of an "activity" string you program off the Harmony database. If the device can do something like the following, I will be happy:

Power On Viera VT50 TV
Add necessary delay to allow input selection
Set TV input to HDMI1 (This is the one I can't get my old remote to do, can't delay long enough for TV to accept input command)
Power On Elite VSX-94TX RCVR
Set RCVR input to BLURAY HDMI Input
Power On OPPO 105 BLURAY
Set OPPO to function screen
Set remote to emulate OPPO

Let me know if your "activity" programs involve this many steps...if so, I will put my order in for a 650

Cheers,
Paul
post #10748 of 13457
Getting my 65 inch vt50 today between 3 and 5. What settings should I use out of the box? I am not going to run slides just watch it ormally but being careful to not have a logo, scroll or static image on for to long. Not a gamer so that is not a concern. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
post #10749 of 13457
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Originally Posted by nickster View Post

Getting my 65 inch vt50 today between 3 and 5. What settings should I use out of the box? I am not going to run slides just watch it ormally but being careful to not have a logo, scroll or static image on for to long. Not a gamer so that is not a concern. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
"If I had a dollar for every time this question was asked..."

Just kidding. Based on your post, you will be fine with any almost any of the settngs available. Try THX mode as a starter. You are doing everything else right already smile.gif
post #10750 of 13457
Stop watching colored slides and start enjoying your set
post #10751 of 13457
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

Stop watching colored slides and start enjoying your set

He said he's not going to run slides...he's going to enjoy smile.gif
post #10752 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Paul Kile View Post

Thanks, mo and 007

You've just about sold me. The only thing I still question is reviewers are saying the 650 is limited to 5 commands in a macro string. I assume this would be "custom" macros and not the length of an "activity" string you program off the Harmony database. If the device can do something like the following, I will be happy:

Power On Viera VT50 TV
Add necessary delay to allow input selection
Set TV input to HDMI1 (This is the one I can't get my old remote to do, can't delay long enough for TV to accept input command)
Power On Elite VSX-94TX RCVR
Set RCVR input to BLURAY HDMI Input
Power On OPPO 105 BLURAY
Set OPPO to function screen
Set remote to emulate OPPO

Let me know if your "activity" programs involve this many steps...if so, I will put my order in for a 650

Cheers,
Paul
Other than setting OPPO to function screen Yes. And that Im just not sure about. I do not have an OPPO? Otherwise what you require would be easy. That is what the activity buttons are designed for. You could customize the name of it too. Call it "Watch OPPO" for instance. And when you hit the button it will turn on the devices and set the inputs. And leave you with all the OPPO controls as primary on the remote. And you can specifically decide which device the volume button controls. In this case the avr.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/7/13 at 10:56am
post #10753 of 13457
One thing driving me a ittle nuts with this set has NOTHING to do with the set but with my HTPC. I hope some of you have an HTPC and can help.

I have an AMD5450 that I'm passing HDMI audio & video through to a Pioneer VSX-1020 to VT50 with WMC & TMT 5. This works fantastic for everything EXCEPT 3D blu-rays. I have to throw them into my PS3.

What's happening is that the TV does not detect a 3D signal, I have to press 3D and choose 2D->3D option on TV. Then I do get 3D, but it's just not calibrated as perfectly as the PS3.

I'm ready to upgrade the motherboard and/or video card for one that will natively pass 3D so that it's recognized and formatted natively by the TV. Can anyone recommend a specific video card?

I've tried all the Catalyst drivers today from 12.8 (the most stable for all my other video) through to the new 13.2 beta 7.
post #10754 of 13457
Hows this tv for gaming? Any input lag? I'm thinking about getting one at 65 inches but how does this tv compare to competing LED tvs such as the 70" Sharp models?
post #10755 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Paul Kile View Post

Hi folks,
I became the proud owner of a 55" VT50 about a month ago, and it has exceeded my expectations (my wife thinks it's too big for the room, but that's neither here nor there). I've got one issue though. I have an old MX-500 universal remote that I have always been able to use through macros to control my system. I have obtained discrete codes for on/off, the HDMI inputs, and various other functions. If I turn the set on with the ON command, after the logo goes away and the input displays in the upper corner, I can select any of the other inputs and it will change. But if I try to imbed the input command into a macro, I can't get it to function, even with programming in a 2-second delay between ON and HDMI(x). This is getting very frustrating. I've even tried configuring all the other gear within the macro and leaving the Viera input command to the very end, no dice.

Anyone run into this before, and a fix? Remember the MX-500 is only programmable with IR learning, and cannot be programmed through a PC like all the newer remotes. I seem to remember having seen a work-around buried in some obscure Wiki, but for the life of me I can't find it again. Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I couldn't find much of anything through a forum search.

Thanks in advance,
Cheers,
Paul

I have a MX- 700 with the VT 50 and a Denon 4520 with an OPPO 103. It works perfect. I had to put an 7 second delay in the "power on" OPPO and THEN switch the TV input as the Oppo had to be fully powered up before it worked consistantly, As far as the Panny input, you have to hit the input command twice.(Before it goes off your screen)Once is to " light it up", the second is to move the function..... Put a .5 delay between the two commands. If you go into the input settings you can put NOT USED into the title and it will not cycle through them. I only have two titles(Blu-Ray and Amp) so I only had to cycle them twice. If you have more, you will have to hit it three times,or whatever your device # needs. . Before I figured out the Not Used part, I had it cycle 6 or 7 times to get completly thru the Input list. It still worked that way, but took a while. If you would want me to e-mail you my program I could easily do that.
I not sure you would want it set up as I like, but you could look it over.
I have the Panny come on,Denon come on, switch to Cable box(ARC HDMI),and then swich the Remote (Go To) the Cable Box screen..We have Time Warner DVR Cisco Box, but I think just about all the TW stuff is the same,.Although I sent it back , I used to own a 105 and I'm almost positve the remotes were identcal.....I do not have the Oppo come on at that time. But, if you switch the MAIN over to Blu-Ray and turn IT on, then the ( after 7 Seconds) macro switches the Panny over to Blu-Ray(HDMI1) and Amp to Blu-Ray.
Edited by ss3740 - 3/7/13 at 2:54pm
post #10756 of 13457
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

He said he's not going to run slides...he's going to enjoy smile.gif

Thanks for the info gents and I am enjoying:)
post #10757 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Enviable27 View Post

Hello everyone... I have had a 65 vt50 since June and Im barely noticing these weird artifacts when ever I have a blue or green slide on my screen. Has anybody else seen this type of issue? Is my tv deffective? Any input would be appreciated.




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When are you typically watching blue or green slides? Did those patterns appear suddenly or gradually? Can you see any change in them? Have you had Panasonic check out your set?

I would have the set checked so that Panasonic has a record of your problem. If it gets worse over time then you would have a stronger case.

If you don't see any change over time, and you don't see them when you're watching your usual programming, then you should be OK.

EDIT: Could they be defects in the glass?
post #10758 of 13457
I would call service and get someone out.
post #10759 of 13457
Thanks for the input, the picture that i took is of a blue screen from my onkyo no signal screen, but it also comes up on blue and green slides I think it is getting worse because I only noticed it once before running slides off a usb stick. They don't make quality electronics anymore.
post #10760 of 13457
Could be misfiring pixels (maybe) on certain colors?
post #10761 of 13457
Its weird because it takes it about a min or two for it to start doing it. And the pixels arent still, its like a patch of sparkles. :-/
post #10762 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Enviable27 View Post

Its weird because it takes it about a min or two for it to start doing it. And the pixels arent still, its like a patch of sparkles. :-/
My best guess would be the same as gadgtfreek. Misfiring pixels. Its unlikely but possible that may fix itself after you watch tv for a while. I would keep an eye on it until you are closer to the end of your return period and if it doesnt get better return it.
post #10763 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Other than setting OPPO to function screen Yes. And that Im just not sure about. I do not have an OPPO? Otherwise what you require would be easy. That is what the activity buttons are designed for. You could customize the name of it too. Call it "Watch OPPO" for instance. And when you hit the button it will turn on the devices and set the inputs. And leave you with all the OPPO controls as primary on the remote. And you can specifically decide which device the volume button controls. In this case the avr.

Yup what bond said. I have activities that essentially execute 8 commands. It's just the custom macros
post #10764 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

My best guess would be the same as gadgtfreek. Misfiring pixels. Its unlikely but possible that may fix itself after you watch tv for a while. I would keep an eye on it until you are closer to the end of your return period and if it doesnt get better return it.
I dont notice it (yet) on tv watching but I have a feeling its probably gonna start. I havent contacted Panny yet,do you guys know what their warranty process is? Do i have to send it to them at my expense? Btw I did purchase straight from their site.
Thanks
post #10765 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Enviable27 View Post

I dont notice it (yet) on tv watching but I have a feeling its probably gonna start. I havent contacted Panny yet,do you guys know what their warranty process is? Do i have to send it to them at my expense? Btw I did purchase straight from their site.
Thanks

They'll send a tech to your house. You won't have to send the TV to them.
post #10766 of 13457
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Originally Posted by Enviable27 View Post

I dont notice it (yet) on tv watching but I have a feeling its probably gonna start. I havent contacted Panny yet,do you guys know what their warranty process is? Do i have to send it to them at my expense? Btw I did purchase straight from their site.
Thanks

They'll send a tech to your house. You won't have to send the TV to them. I bought my 65VT50 direct from Panasonic as well.
post #10767 of 13457
If your VT50 is sitting on the pedestal stand, then you're fine. If not, you have to take it down from the wall or stand. If the tech people offer to do it, they have no liability should the set be dropped. Should you have a 65VT50, it takes two to take it down and if you don't want to do it, there will be a charge for a second person on a subsequent visit. So either take it down yourself or pay them an extra service fee to do it.
post #10768 of 13457
Owner of a 55" VT50 set for the last two months. Amazing picture quality, much better with more types of content than my old Samsung Plasma. Also better blacks (obviously) and much less IR than the Samsung too.

Anyway, new weird issue that I just noticed. One one input (HDMI 2) when using custom mode there is a subtle but weird sparkle type dithering of red and green pixels when viewing a black screen. I know about the typical roving horizontal scan lines that normally exist which I assume to be the pre-charge of which panasonic is so proud. This is not that. This is random red and green pixel dither across the entire screen. It is very subtle, so much so in fact that I'm having a hard time getting a good exposure with my camera. It is enough though that the overall brightness of the panel is noticeably brighter from the normal viewing condition.

What is odd though is that it is not present in any other picture mode including the cinema and THX modes. Also, it is not present on the other inputs. It does not go away when the HDMI cable is disconnected, ruling out a source issue.

Has anyone seen this issue before? Does it sound like something that I should be worried about?

Thanks in advance.
post #10769 of 13457
Thanks for the replies.. Do they normally fix it at your place? Just the thought of people taking and handling my baby makes me cringe.
post #10770 of 13457
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Thanks for the replies.. Do they normally fix it at your place? Just the thought of people taking and handling my baby makes me cringe.
Yes. If its the panel they may have to come back with one to replace it. Too bad you cant return it. This may sound strange but I would put cartoons on the tv as much as you can when not watching it. Just be careful of logos so you dont get ir.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/7/13 at 8:21pm
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