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post #11071 of 13477
Where are you getting those cables for 25 a piece?? How long of a cable? I have a short carbon from my directv to my receiver. A short carbon from my oppo audio to my receiver. A 6' carbon from my oppo video direct to my tv and a 6' chocolate from my receiver to my tv. The 6' chocolate ran me $70 and that was the cheapest I could find.
post #11072 of 13477
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Hey guys, i am looking for some input from fellow vt50 owners please. I need some quality hdmi cables for my new purchase. I bought the 65vt50 last night and hooked it up with some monoprice high speed hdmi cables till i decide on what to order for replacement cables. Presently i have a comcast x1 cable box and an xbox 360 and will be getting blue ray in the future. If you guys could point me in the right direction i would greatly appreciate it. I still can't believe the picture quality of this set its amazing!!!biggrin.gif
Monoprice high speed cables are good quality. There is no need to waste your money on anything else.
I agree. I've used a lot of high speed 28AWG Monoprice HDMI cables in lengths up to 15' and never had a problem. By using the lightest gage cables I've also been able to avoid strain on the connectors which can cause subtle HDMI handshake problems.

Monoprice

Unless your current Monoprice cables are a heavy gauge, I would stick with them. Since all high speed cables work the same, take your pick. biggrin.gif
Edited by htwaits - 3/16/13 at 12:08pm
post #11073 of 13477
The Belden bonded cables are all most anyone needs, period.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/hdmi-cable.htm
post #11074 of 13477
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Originally Posted by pwrjnky View Post

Where are you getting those cables for 25 a piece?? How long of a cable? I have a short carbon from my directv to my receiver. A short carbon from my oppo audio to my receiver. A 6' carbon from my oppo video direct to my tv and a 6' chocolate from my receiver to my tv. The 6' chocolate ran me $70 and that was the cheapest I could find.

I was wrong, looking back at my records they were ~35.00 apiece from Amazon, 48 bucks for the 6 footers.

Cheers,
Paul
post #11075 of 13477
Wow. That's a great price!
post #11076 of 13477
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Monoprice high speed cables are good quality. There is no need to waste your money on anything else.
I use them on all my tvs. Theres no pq issue. They either work or they dont, theres inbetween.
post #11077 of 13477
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Hi Karn - I use those Samsung glasses as cheapos for my guests. My wife likes to use them though over our panasonic ones, which is weird to me.

I actually picked up a pair of these because I couldn't find Panasonic glasses and we really liked them. They were really light, comfortable and worked really well with glasses. I haven't tried the Panasonics but I was really happy with these. They were so light I really forgot about them. I can see what people say about surrounding light coming in the sides but it didn't really bother me. Watched Prometheus and Avengers back to back and had no fatigue. Really happy with them and for the price they are an amazing value. I'll still try out some Panasonic's when the 2013's come out but these will be nice in the mean time.
post #11078 of 13477
Well I got the TV on Thursday from best buy and they were great, moved my old TV into the bedroom and had this one set up quickly with no issues. I had to work from home that day and they told me to wait a while to turn the TV on so I didn't do much on my breaks but look at it turned off. The build quality is amazing, maybe I didn't really have a high end TV with the kds 2000 but I was really impressed with how thin this was, how nice the panel rejected vertical glare and how nice the fit and finish was. Once I turned it on everything worked and I just put it into the THX modes for now which look really nice. I'll test out D Nice's settings but for now I've been checking out THX. I've had some setup issues with other things so I haven't messed with this yet. Overall just amazed with the picture quality on this. Much better than my old TV and the size makes such a huge difference in my setup. It's just been a joy to watch. I will get it calibrated eventually but for now I'm enjoying it as is. I'll also see how D nice's setting look shortly.

I did have a big problem with 3D but it had nothing to do with the TV. I could watch 3D perfectly fine going through an old PS3 directly to the TV but when I went through my denon 4311 I got huge flickering and cut outs. For the life of me I couldn't figure out what it was and I just started going through the settings I turned off the deep color on the PS3 and it works great! So glad I figured that out. Then I was getting crosstalk on Hugo so I remembered CNET suggested changing the frame rate so I went with 48 and it worked great. 3D looks really nice on this set. I'm no expert with 3D but after Prometheus and Avengers back to back I have no fatigue, it looked great and natural. Hugo was awesome as well. I just picked up life of PI and Avatar so I have a nice day set up tomorrow as well. I did notice the flicker on 2D 48 hz but putting this at 96 worked great. I'm really happy with it.

When I set up my harmony I did notice some buzzing on a full white screen and no sound but it wasn't anything that would bother me or I have noticed with sound on. I was kind of concerned with this but after hearing it on this set I'm completely fine with it. I am having problems with the harmony software but I'm not sure what is going on. I can pick Panasonic from the drop down but I can't enter anything in the model number. Not an issue with the set but it's the current issue I'm dealing with. Maybe I'll try and reinstall the software. I have also not noticed any IR issues but I have been mixing up content. I'm watching a lot of movie channels and blu rays at this point so this probably isn't a good stress test. I was kind of worried about this as well before the I bought the set so I'm happy to see it isn't an issue so far. Overall I think this is an amazing set and I'm so happy I picked it up. I'm going to get back to enjoying it!
post #11079 of 13477
If you cant get the Harmony sotware to work then the website is an option.
post #11080 of 13477
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I agree. I've used a lot of high speed 28AWG Monoprice HDMI cables in lengths up to 15' and never had a problem. By using the lightest gage cables I've also been able to avoid strain on the connectors which can cause subtle HDMI handshake problems.

Monoprice

Unless your current Monoprice cables are a heavy gauge, I would stick with them. Since all high speed cables work the same, take your pick. biggrin.gif

I like Monoprice cables. I recently replaced all my 6 foot and 15 foot cables with their new RedMere thin HDMI cables. They work great and there is no more stain on my Preamp and they are much easier to bend to attach to my wall mounted Plasma.


- Rich
post #11081 of 13477
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I agree. I've used a lot of high speed 28AWG Monoprice HDMI cables in lengths up to 15' and never had a problem. By using the lightest gage cables I've also been able to avoid strain on the connectors which can cause subtle HDMI handshake problems.

Monoprice

Unless your current Monoprice cables are a heavy gauge, I would stick with them. Since all high speed cables work the same, take your pick. biggrin.gif

I like Monoprice cables. I recently replaced all my 6 foot and 15 foot cables with their new RedMere thin HDMI cables. They work great and there is no more stain on my Preamp and they are much easier to bend to attach to my wall mounted Plasma.


- Rich
I don't move cables around much, but if I ever start having a problem I plan to try the RedMere thin HDMI cables. smile.gif

They look a lot more flexible than even the 28AWG cables. I'll probably need at least one RedMere cable if I ever have to get rid of our Kuro display. The Panasonic displays seem to ignore the path a wall mounted display needs for it's HDMI cables. eek.gif
post #11082 of 13477
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I don't move cables around much, but if I ever start having a problem I plan to try the RedMere thin HDMI cables. smile.gif

They look a lot more flexible than even the 28AWG cables. I'll probably need at least one RedMere cable if I ever have to get rid of our Kuro display. The Panasonic displays seem to ignore the path a wall mounted display needs for it's HDMI cables. eek.gif
Im sure those cables work fine but I use one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Tera-Grand-Premium-Adapter-Rotation/dp/B006GHYBGK/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1363512967&sr=1-22&keywords=hdmi+adaptor
post #11083 of 13477
I'm looking into the "Redmere" cables as well, mostly to take the stress off the connections on the back of the AVR, as well as the tight angle's I have since my AVR is so close to a rear wall. Right now I'm using a single point up/down adapter, but the weight of the cables hanging down, at times pull themselves out, if I'm making other adjustments behind the AVR, and the old style cable don't bend well as you all know. Back in 2009 I bought all my cable from Monoprice, with NO issues, but doing some searching now, I'm surprised to find that "NewEgg" has a "Rosewell" branded version of Redmere for $4 less on a 6ft HDMI cable. Good chance they are all made by the same company anyways. While I still on the fence regarding replacing my current HDMI cables, there seems to be many positive reports that these work fine if used in the proper direction. My only hesitation of course is that they "add" a chip into the connection, thus a potential of something going bad, down the road, which is something a regular HDMI cable of course does not have.

Just did some reading of reviews on NewEgg, seems one difference is you get lifetime warranty from Monoprice, but ONLY 1 year on "Rosewell" brand, so it might be worth the extra few bucks for that alone!
Edited by Mactavish - 3/17/13 at 7:30am
post #11084 of 13477
I just picked up a 6ft Redmere (ordered that is) this morning from Monoprice. I'm going to test it as my "mobile" HDMI cable for laptop and iPad on business trips. I mostly am interested in seeing how thin and pliable these cables are in the event I want to change out my main AVR/Blu-ray <--> VT50 runs at some point.
post #11085 of 13477
They look nice and I will consider them in the future. All my HDMI cables are BJC and are pretty new, so no need to change anything. Aint broke...
post #11086 of 13477
I've done some heavy searching but can't seem to find a definitive comparison of the VT50 to Pioneer's 9G elite panel (e.g. 151FD). D-Nice has good things to say about this panel, which is impressive in my mind, but I'm torn between a used 151FD for $2500 and a new P55VT50 for $1600. 5" of diagonal space, slightly better black levels (how much? According to reviews it's noticeable in very dark scenes but that's about it) , higher-quality components are the benefits of the 151FD, but I'm wondering how beneficial those are at an extra $900.

Thoughts?
post #11087 of 13477
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I don't move cables around much, but if I ever start having a problem I plan to try the RedMere thin HDMI cables. smile.gif

They look a lot more flexible than even the 28AWG cables. I'll probably need at least one RedMere cable if I ever have to get rid of our Kuro display. The Panasonic displays seem to ignore the path a wall mounted display needs for it's HDMI cables. eek.gif
Im sure those cables work fine but I use one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Tera-Grand-Premium-Adapter-Rotation/dp/B006GHYBGK/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1363512967&sr=1-22&keywords=hdmi+adaptor
Others use similar solutions. Since HDMI problems can be caused by any connection in the entire chain, I try to have as few connections as possible. The first step in debugging a HDMI problem is to simplify the HDMI chain.

Enjoy. smile.gif
post #11088 of 13477
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I don't move cables around much, but if I ever start having a problem I plan to try the RedMere thin HDMI cables. smile.gif

They look a lot more flexible than even the 28AWG cables. I'll probably need at least one RedMere cable if I ever have to get rid of our Kuro display. The Panasonic displays seem to ignore the path a wall mounted display needs for it's HDMI cables. eek.gif

That was my thought but I was completely blown away when they arrived.
RedMere cables are about same thickness as a Apple charging cable, even the 15 footers.

All stress problems are gone.
The Apple TV is no longer lifted by the table.

Here is a before and after but it does not do it justice. The original Monoprice cables were definitely putting a strain on the connectors. This is now a non-issue.





- Rich
post #11089 of 13477
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Here is a before and after but it does not do it justice. The original Monoprice cables were definitely putting a strain on the connectors. This is now a non-issue.





- Rich
Sweet. smile.gif

I only have three HDMI inputs to our AVR, and one of them is a HD-DVD player that will become a backup for our son's HD-DVD collection.
post #11090 of 13477
Thats the main reason I stopped using Monoprice. Good cheap cables but too damn stiff. I like the new ones.
post #11091 of 13477
Need all of your expert opinions on a wall mount for my new Vt50 65" comming this week. TV will be mounted in a cabinet 26" deep.Want to be able to extend the unit at least to the front of the cabinet.

Am considering the following:

Sanus XF228. Favorite so far. Seems to have the most flexibilty as far as adjustments.

Pearless PLA60

Monoprice 6516 Cheapest, seams to have the longest reach at 31", but have read the reviews that you have to cut and drill mount to fit TV.

As usaual, all opinions would be greatly appreciated.
post #11092 of 13477
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Need all of your expert opinions on a wall mount for my new Vt50 65" comming this week. TV will be mounted in a cabinet 26" deep.Want to be able to extend the unit at least to the front of the cabinet.

Am considering the following:

Sanus XF228. Favorite so far. Seems to have the most flexibilty as far as adjustments.

Pearless PLA60

Monoprice 6516 Cheapest, seams to have the longest reach at 31", but have read the reviews that you have to cut and drill mount to fit TV.

As usaual, all opinions would be greatly appreciated.

I don't use a wall mount, but quickly looked at all three, seems to me the price difference between the monoprice, and the other two, would be worth doing some cutting and drilling, as the cost difference is huge. Once it's cabled up, in a cabinet, doesn't seem you would be using all the up/down, left/right pivot points much? Now for a true wall mounting, perhaps the more expensive ones would be a better choice.
post #11093 of 13477
Thanks for the "Redmere" HDMI cable photos RichB. I just ordered 7 six footers, and 3 three footers, from Monoprice, with a 10% coupon, average price delivered $12.00/each. Less then I paid for the old style ones, 4 years a go from them.
post #11094 of 13477
I had an XF228 and loved it. Its a beast.
post #11095 of 13477
Quick request. Many of you have suggested SpectraCal's Calman software for calibrating the VT50. What Meters do you use when you are doing your own calibrations? Are they expensive? I noticed that Spectracal has a sale going on with both the meter and software for $150.

Those of you in the know, is this worth it? Also can an inexperienced Noob set this up through the ethernet and get it right with the Autocal feature?

http://store.spectracal.com/consumer/c3.html


I looked at this video for the 4.2 version controlling the VT30 series. Is it really as easy as this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwphqjqcsg

Thanks.
post #11096 of 13477
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Originally Posted by pjrace1 View Post

Need all of your expert opinions on a wall mount for my new Vt50 65" coming this week. TV will be mounted in a cabinet 26" deep.Want to be able to extend the unit at least to the front of the cabinet.

Am considering the following:

Sanus XF228. Favorite so far. Seems to have the most flexibilty as far as adjustments.

Pearless PLA60

Monoprice 6516 Cheapest, seams to have the longest reach at 31", but have read the reviews that you have to cut and drill mount to fit TV.
I am very happy with the Chief TS525TU mount I bought. Note that the 65" version of the VT50 requires one more FHB5017 adapter piece for the TS525TU, because of the extra-wide 29" "wing span" spacing of the mounting holes on the back of the 65VT50.

Fully extends out to 27", collapses to 1.5". Supports 125 lbs., also allows down-tilt up to 15 degrees.

Although you won't be able to swivel or move it if you truly mount it all the way back in your 26" deep "hole in the wall", if it is mounted on a real wall (or simulated wall), it has complete swivel capability as well to point to different corners of the room.

I had a similar problem situation where I wanted to wall-mount my 65VT50. My "hole in the wall" problem cabinet truly WAS a genuine "hole in the wall", where my old 35" Mitsubishi CRT used to live.




Underneath the TV "hole" was where I placed two external B&W speakers, fed from the 35" Mits amplifier for stereo sound.




For my solution I had a cabinet maker build a FRONT WALL, which is actually a frame built from 2x4's, with a bunch of 2x4 vertical studs inside.



This allowed me to pick which pair of studs (separated by 16", just like with a real wall, so the back part of the wall mount could bolt on) most closely got the TV centered on the wall where I wanted it. The TS525TU also provides for its main support to be slid left/right +/- 8" off of center on a mounting track, so you have 16" total travel left/right for further centering of the TV from where you've attached the wall mount.


Then we put a piece of 3/4" plywood over the face of the studs (where normally ordinary drywall would be). Then we mounted the wall mount onto the 3/4" plywood face, to get the positioning right. Note some extra holes in the 3/4" plywood face, where we first mistakenly attached the wall mount and which turned out to get the TV to mistakenly be about 8" to the right of where I wanted it centered, even with the bracket getting a -8" slide to the left on the mounting track. We had to remove it and pick a second pair of the studs which were to the left, and now the mount location got the TV where I wanted it.




Then we removed the just-attached wall mount and installed nice black velvet over the 3/4" plywood face, so that it would be decorative if the TV were extended out (from maximum collapsed up against the wall facing straight out), in case I wanted to swivel it to a corner of the room. The black velvet was attached to the plywood with 2-sided tape and it was done very well, and looks perfect.




Then we re-attached the wall mount through the black velvet to the previously used holes in the plywood face itself. And then we mounted the TV.




Pushed all the way back against the new "wall" (which actually has mirror all around the "hole in the wall" for the TV), and after reattaching the grill cloth on the speaker enclosure below it (that hides two nice B&W speakers, from the 1986 vintage days of the 35" Mits and stereo sound), it looks like this (adjacent to its "older brother", my original 2004-vintage Sony 34XBR960).


Edited by DSperber - 3/17/13 at 4:56pm
post #11097 of 13477
I have 65VT50 and a denon 3313. I watched a movie on Netflix yesterday and I had to use the TV speakers. Is there some setting in the tv or receiver that I need to set.
post #11098 of 13477
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I have 65VT50 and a denon 3313. I watched a movie on Netflix yesterday and I had to use the TV speakers. Is there some setting in the tv or receiver that I need to set.
Are you familiar with the Denon owner's thread for the 2013 AVR models? That's the best place to start with an audio problem involving your AVR.

Does this problem only happen with Netflix streaming? Do you get audio through your AVR when you watch Blu-ray, DVD or HDTV material?

All Things Denon for 2013

If your problem is only Netflix, then someone here can probably help you. You should describe your setup and which app that you are using to access Netflix -- the TV, a Blu-ray player, or some other Netflix enabled device.
Edited by htwaits - 3/17/13 at 5:11pm
post #11099 of 13477
I posted in that thread also. It only happens when I stream something using the TVs internet connection. No problem with listening to other sources. Is there anything on the TV I need to turn on? Doesn't sound like it (no pun intended).
post #11100 of 13477
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I posted in that thread also. It only happens when I stream something using the TVs internet connection. No problem with listening to other sources. Is there anything on the TV I need to turn on? Doesn't sound like it (no pun intended).
You're right, the answer is probably in your setup. There are a couple of ways to get audio from the TV to the AVR. I'd better let a VT50 owner help you before I confuse things. wink.gif

How is your TV source connected. STB > AVR > TV. or STB > TV? I'm assuming that Netflix audio arrives in your TV via the Internet and that you would need an optical connection from thre TV to your AVR. The AVR would also have to point to the same audio connection.
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