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post #11221 of 13486
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"Life of Pi" is the first 2D movie I've seen in a theater in the past five years. My wife made me do it.
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At least she doesnt make you go to the hockey games.
What's amazing is that for most of the games she goes to, she hops on the train in her official team jersey. She's 79. eek.gif

Things are pretty sad in the Shark tank this year.
post #11222 of 13486
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I like it better at home, but Im not happy with the loss of black level as the screen has to up its refresh rate.

Lol a true hair splitter! Ok so don't forget to factor back in that you are wearing lenses that dim the screen so it could still be the abl side of the equation that makes you lose CR
post #11223 of 13486
Today is the day!! 65" VT50 being delivered TODAY.
Not ready to put it in it's final home so will only be connecting to Direct TV to start.
What should I look for on initial setup?
Is there anything I should do at startup?
Living in central California wouldn't think I need to worry about temperature.
Still debating slides or actuall viewing, or combination of both?

All suggestions greatly appreciated
post #11224 of 13486
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Originally Posted by pjrace1 View Post

Today is the day!! 65" VT50 being delivered TODAY.
Not ready to put it in it's final home so will only be connecting to Direct TV to start.
What should I look for on initial setup?
Is there anything I should do at startup?
Living in central California wouldn't think I need to worry about temperature.
Still debating slides or actuall viewing, or combination of both?

All suggestions greatly appreciated
Use a flashlight with fresh batteries to inspect it before you even turn it on. Have the slides on a USB ready. After you inspect it then put the slides in and look for screen uniformity issues and listen for buzzing.
post #11225 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Rice Rocket View Post

I suspect the supply for the 2012 versions of the Panasonic 3D glasses are drying up, and the prices are now higher (around $70 - $80) than what they were just a month ago (between $50 to $60). Panasonic still hasn't indicated whether there'll be a new 2013 model. The bad news is that they went back to passive 3D for their 2013 LED, which probably means fewer active 3D glasses sold, higher prices, and fewer deals.

The best deal may just be the Xpand 105's that are on sale for $29 with rechargeable batteries and adjustable nose piece. I ordered 4 today to see how well they work:

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Originally Posted by NickBaragona View Post

Where did you see those on sale at?

I concur with your assessment about the supply running out of the 2012 Panasonic glasses; I have also been following them on ebay. The big question is what is the path forward? Let XpanD make the glasses?

Thanks for the tip on the XpanD X105BT on Amazon; I ordered 5 pairs. I noticed they are from Paul's TV, and checked their web site directly; they are on clearance, which explains the price. I assume since Mitsubishi is exiting the RPTV business, that is the reason why they are on clearance, so get 'em while they're hot!!

The only thing that slightly concerns me is that I think the official model number for our 2012 Panny's is XPAND X105-RF-X1 Rechargeable 3D RF/Bluetooth Glasses ($60 on Amazon), according to the manual on the XpanD web site. However, I checked on the X105BT (Mitsubishi) model compatibility, and it shows Full 3D HD compatibility on the XpandD web site, so they should work with the 2012 Panasonic TV's.




This is a great deal!

Mark
Edited by giomania - 3/20/13 at 12:51pm
post #11226 of 13486
Has anyone tried using the Xpand 105 3D glasses with a VT50 to confirm they work? The site says the should work, but I'd like some real world confirmation before making the purchase.

From the XPAND site:
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The XPAND 3D Glasses Lite IR are compatible with 3D devices that use IR 3D synchronization protocol, including XPAND equipped 3D cinemas1. The XPAND 3D Glasses Lite RF are compatible with any 3D device bearing the logo of Full HD 3D and equipped with internal or external Radio Frequency (for example Bluetooth®) emitter2
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2As of January 2013 RF/BT TVs are known to be: all Samsung 2011 and 2012 models, all Panasonic 2012 models, and some Mitsubishi DLP TV 2012 models.


Thanks,

DtF
Edited by Dru the Fu - 3/20/13 at 10:49am
post #11227 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Dru the Fu View Post

Has anyone tried using the Xpand 105 3D glasses with a VT50 to confirm they work? The site says the should work, but I'd like some real world confirmation before making the purchase.

Thanks,

DtF

Second that, I'm definitely interested in a few pairs.
post #11228 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

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Originally Posted by pjrace1 View Post

Today is the day!! 65" VT50 being delivered TODAY.
Not ready to put it in it's final home so will only be connecting to Direct TV to start.
What should I look for on initial setup?
Is there anything I should do at startup?
Living in central California wouldn't think I need to worry about temperature.
Still debating slides or actuall viewing, or combination of both?

All suggestions greatly appreciated
Use a flashlight with fresh batteries to inspect it before you even turn it on. Have the slides on a USB ready. After you inspect it then put the slides in and look for screen uniformity issues and listen for buzzing.
Just to amplify slightly. Shine the flashlight on the screen from the sides. You are looking for minute cracks in the screen glass.
post #11229 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Dru the Fu View Post

Has anyone tried using the Xpand 105 3D glasses with a VT50 to confirm they work? The site says the should work, but I'd like some real world confirmation before making the purchase.

From the XPAND site:
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The XPAND 3D Glasses Lite IR are compatible with 3D devices that use IR 3D synchronization protocol, including XPAND equipped 3D cinemas1. The XPAND 3D Glasses Lite RF are compatible with any 3D device bearing the logo of Full HD 3D and equipped with internal or external Radio Frequency (for example Bluetooth®) emitter2
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2As of January 2013 RF/BT TVs are known to be: all Samsung 2011 and 2012 models, all Panasonic 2012 models, and some Mitsubishi DLP TV 2012 models.


Thanks,

DtF

I found them and ordered them yesterday. I have high confidence that they'll work. Will report back here when I get them tomorrow (yay Prime!).

Meanwhile, here's the manual: http://goo.gl/c1fn7

P.S. BTW, that's the reason I ordered them through Amazon. Their return process is way easier should the Xpand's not work for some reason.
post #11230 of 13486
They will work fine.
post #11231 of 13486
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Originally Posted by M3 Pete View Post

I fired up the vt50 last night and since the box looked like it had been open, I checked the hours. It said 48. Now I can't remember if that was minutes or hours, and I put the tv back in the box until I get the mount.

Does the service menu show minutes, or just hours?

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Anybody know the answer to this?
post #11232 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Rice Rocket View Post

I found them and ordered them yesterday. I have high confidence that they'll work. Will report back here when I get them tomorrow (yay Prime!).

Meanwhile, here's the manual: http://goo.gl/c1fn7

P.S. BTW, that's the reason I ordered them through Amazon. Their return process is way easier should the Xpand's not work for some reason.

So, if given the choice of getting official Panasonic glasses for a little over $30 a pair (but having to wait perhaps a month or 2) versus going all in and buying the XPAND glasses now while they're on sale, which would be the route to go? I'd hate to miss out on this deal should my 'deal' for the Panny's come up short.


UPDATE: So out of curiosity, I went to the Amazon page, and like others mentioned, I confirmed that Paul's TV was selling these via Amazon. So I went to Paul's TV website and had an online chat with John. Being that I purchased my 65VT50 from Paul's, I wondered if I could get any kind of additional cost savings. Unfortunately, I was told that these glasses are already on clearance, so no additional savings could be had from the current $29.99 website listed price. I asked if these worked on the VT50, and was told Yes (and on Samsung TV's also)! I then proceeded to ask the quality of these were compared to the 'official' Panny glasses, and was told
John: The lens are exactly the same and honestly I like the Mitsubishi glasses better !
John: Also for the price, its way better

I then added that Amazon is selling these for $29.00, so John gave me that price, and also stated that I have a 30-day price match on these.

SOLD!!! I've purchase 6 pair.

If anyone would like John's contact info at Paul's TV, PM me.

I look forward to getting these and having my next family movie night...in 3D!
Edited by Dru the Fu - 3/20/13 at 1:38pm
post #11233 of 13486
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I fired up the vt50 last night and since the box looked like it had been open, I checked the hours. It said 48. Now I can't remember if that was minutes or hours, and I put the tv back in the box until I get the mount.

Does the service menu show minutes, or just hours?

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Anybody know the answer to this?
I can't think of a reason for showing hours and minutes. Also, I don't recall ever reading a post that included minutes.

Who did you buy your display from? It sounds like it might be an "open box" item. If it is, that should effect the price.

EDIT: The correct information is that these displays record hours:minutes and number of power cycles. redface.gif
Edited by htwaits - 3/20/13 at 4:12pm
post #11234 of 13486
So I have been noticing some ghosting while watching a 3d movie. The option to switch it from 60hz is grayed out...what format does the movie have to be in to change the refresh rate? Not sure if it matters, but I am also playing the movie through my laptop, hooked to my VT50 via HDMI.
post #11235 of 13486
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I can't think of a reason for showing hours and minutes. Also, I don't recall ever reading a post that included minutes.

Who did you buy your display from? It sounds like it might be an "open box" item. If it is, that should effect the price.
The service menu shows hours:minutes and the number of times the set has been powered on. I used the instructions found on another forum (HDJ) to access it to confirm the 30-day return policy open box VT50 I bought from BB had minimal usage. It did, 14:32 and 9 power cycles.
post #11236 of 13486
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Originally Posted by M3 Pete View Post

Anybody know the answer to this?

It shows minutes and hours AFAIK. Mine was fresh out of the box, and when I checked it during delivery, it showed 1 turn on, 14 minutes, which was about right since I spent that time inspecting it with slides before signing for the delivery.

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Originally Posted by Dru the Fu View Post

So, if given the choice of getting official Panasonic glasses for a little over $30 a pair (but having to wait perhaps a month or 2) versus going all in and buying the XPAND glasses now while they're on sale, which would be the route to go? I'd hate to miss out on this deal should my 'deal' for the Panny's come up short.

The Panasonic was on sale at Sears late Dec/early Jan for $30, and some got the price matched at Best Buy. For me, a bird in hand is worth two in the bush. If the Panasonic does go back down to $30, I'd probably buy a couple of them too.
post #11237 of 13486
Getting excited, my 65" VT50 is being delivered tomorrow. Ordered it from Paul's TV. Only bummer is the outside temps. Tonight's low will be around 10 degrees in Western, Pennsylvania. At least I can check it out with a flashlight before the delivery company leaves. Already have Chad B. lined up for a calibration.

Had a heck of a time finding the Panny 3D glasses. Ordered one set from Vann's at MSRP just so I had them. Just pulled the trigger on 3 sets of XPands (X105-RF-X1) for 29.99 each, seemed pretty fairly priced.

Can't wait, albeit slides will be running for the first 4 days. Guess my present 60" Kuro can hold me over for a few days before it's retired to the downstairs game room.
post #11238 of 13486
Feels like Christmas. VT50 65" arrived today. Unbelievable right out of the box. BB delivery was great. They hauled it upstairs, put it on stand, connected the cables and started her up and then hauled away an old 36" tube tv. Watched a little HBO, changed the picture setting to THX Bright and it was fantastic. Running the slides now.

Looked fresh out of the box but how would I check to see how many hours are on TV?
post #11239 of 13486
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I can't think of a reason for showing hours and minutes. Also, I don't recall ever reading a post that included minutes.

Who did you buy your display from? It sounds like it might be an "open box" item. If it is, that should effect the price.
The service menu shows hours:minutes and the number of times the set has been powered on. I used the instructions found on another forum (HDJ) to access it to confirm the 30-day return policy open box VT50 I bought from BB had minimal usage. It did, 14:32 and 9 power cycles.
There's no substitute for the right information. Thanks. biggrin.gif
post #11240 of 13486
I downloaded a few HD videos to test out, but I can not see to get the TV to recognize them as 3d formats. I only get the option for 2D>3D. My laptop is hooked to my TV via HDMI. What am I doing wrong?

Nvm- figured it out. I still can't seem to take it off of 60hz though. I am getting crazy ghosting.
Edited by NickBaragona - 3/20/13 at 4:44pm
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that's probably more of a HTPC question. Of course you can always try and stream some apps straight from the TV in 3d just to demonstrate that you can do 3d from the internet etc.
post #11242 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Lol a true hair splitter! Ok so don't forget to factor back in that you are wearing lenses that dim the screen so it could still be the abl side of the equation that makes you lose CR

I know, but the black rise in the bars is still obvious with the glasses on. At least it was on my 2011. Im gonna give 3D on the VT another shot and I have ordered some glasses from Panasonic. Several good 3D flicks out right now I can try.

Is the cnet article correct in that you need to use 24p at 48hz not 60hz to reduce crosstalk?
post #11243 of 13486
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

I know, but the black rise in the bars is still obvious with the glasses on. At least it was on my 2011. Im gonna give 3D on the VT another shot and I have ordered some glasses from Panasonic. Several good 3D flicks out right now I can try.

Is the cnet article correct in that you need to use 24p at 48hz not 60hz to reduce crosstalk?

I was j/k and giving you credit at the same time. Tbh I still go back to 48hz because it does seem better, I'm not what 60 is good for. I'd love to have 96 though smile.gif.

Odd that 60 works nicely in2d though.
post #11244 of 13486
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Originally Posted by pjrace1 View Post

Feels like Christmas. VT50 65" arrived today. Unbelievable right out of the box. BB delivery was great. They hauled it upstairs, put it on stand, connected the cables and started her up and then hauled away an old 36" tube tv. Watched a little HBO, changed the picture setting to THX Bright and it was fantastic. Running the slides now.

Looked fresh out of the box but how would I check to see how many hours are on TV?

When they turned it on, was there a prompt to select Home or Store use and the initial setup? If so, that shows it is new and you have nothing to worry about.
post #11245 of 13486
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Originally Posted by tcramer View Post

When they turned it on, was there a prompt to select Home or Store use and the initial setup? If so, that shows it is new and you have nothing to worry about.

I think I did see that prompt. Had to go out after delivery and left tv on with slides running. When I got home checked the hours and it was right on the money and had only been cycled on once.
post #11246 of 13486
How to I find the device menu on the ST50? Getting mine tomorrow...
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Originally Posted by kenho21 View Post

How to I find the device menu on the ST50? Getting mine tomorrow...
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Whos custom settings are you using? I used the Cnet custom settings.
post #11248 of 13486
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Originally Posted by NickBaragona View Post

So I have been noticing some ghosting while watching a 3d movie. The option to switch it from 60hz is grayed out...what format does the movie have to be in to change the refresh rate? Not sure if it matters, but I am also playing the movie through my laptop, hooked to my VT50 via HDMI.

The VT50 needs to be receiving 24p 3D to enable 48hz mode. Your laptop is probably converting the 24p into 60p before feeding your VT50.
post #11249 of 13486
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Originally Posted by kenho21 View Post

How to I find the device menu on the ST50? Getting mine tomorrow...
Not sure what you mean. Try the Viera Tools button on the remote.
post #11250 of 13486
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Are the settings the default settings in Jeff's pre calibration report?

Anyway my point is that these VT50's in the right modes are fairly close and for the most part within specs.

Look at the pre and post numbers and grafts, not a big difference. And Jeff as always did a nice job with your calibration,

ss

I was using the D-Nice recommended setting following 120 hours of panel prep with the slides. You're right that there doesn't appear to be a huge difference in the graphs, but the picture is noticeably better post-calibration. Prior to the calibration, skin tones looked very red and unnatural to me, and now they look normal.

Over the weekend I had my first experience with noticeable IR. I was watching the Golf Channel and NBC coverage of the PGA Tour event in Tampa for a few hours. The two channels use a combined GC/NBC logo, which was noticeable onscreen later when watching other channels. I put on a couple of full screen HD movies on channels with no logos (and ran the scroll bar once) and it is fading.

One of the worst. I have emailed/tweeted them about it. Ridiculous.

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