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Originally Posted by pjrace1 View Post

Feels like Christmas. VT50 65" arrived today. Unbelievable right out of the box. BB delivery was great. They hauled it upstairs, put it on stand, connected the cables and started her up and then hauled away an old 36" tube tv. Watched a little HBO, changed the picture setting to THX Bright and it was fantastic. Running the slides now.

Looked fresh out of the box but how would I check to see how many hours are on TV?

When they turned it on, was there a prompt to select Home or Store use and the initial setup? If so, that shows it is new and you have nothing to worry about.
post #11252 of 12503
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Originally Posted by tcramer View Post

When they turned it on, was there a prompt to select Home or Store use and the initial setup? If so, that shows it is new and you have nothing to worry about.

I think I did see that prompt. Had to go out after delivery and left tv on with slides running. When I got home checked the hours and it was right on the money and had only been cycled on once.
post #11253 of 12503
How to I find the device menu on the ST50? Getting mine tomorrow...
post #11254 of 12503
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Originally Posted by kenho21 View Post

How to I find the device menu on the ST50? Getting mine tomorrow...
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Whos custom settings are you using? I used the Cnet custom settings.
post #11255 of 12503
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Originally Posted by NickBaragona View Post

So I have been noticing some ghosting while watching a 3d movie. The option to switch it from 60hz is grayed out...what format does the movie have to be in to change the refresh rate? Not sure if it matters, but I am also playing the movie through my laptop, hooked to my VT50 via HDMI.

The VT50 needs to be receiving 24p 3D to enable 48hz mode. Your laptop is probably converting the 24p into 60p before feeding your VT50.
post #11256 of 12503
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Originally Posted by kenho21 View Post

How to I find the device menu on the ST50? Getting mine tomorrow...
Not sure what you mean. Try the Viera Tools button on the remote.
post #11257 of 12503
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Originally Posted by DWBoston View Post

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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Are the settings the default settings in Jeff's pre calibration report?

Anyway my point is that these VT50's in the right modes are fairly close and for the most part within specs.

Look at the pre and post numbers and grafts, not a big difference. And Jeff as always did a nice job with your calibration,

ss

I was using the D-Nice recommended setting following 120 hours of panel prep with the slides. You're right that there doesn't appear to be a huge difference in the graphs, but the picture is noticeably better post-calibration. Prior to the calibration, skin tones looked very red and unnatural to me, and now they look normal.

Over the weekend I had my first experience with noticeable IR. I was watching the Golf Channel and NBC coverage of the PGA Tour event in Tampa for a few hours. The two channels use a combined GC/NBC logo, which was noticeable onscreen later when watching other channels. I put on a couple of full screen HD movies on channels with no logos (and ran the scroll bar once) and it is fading.

One of the worst. I have emailed/tweeted them about it. Ridiculous.

post #11258 of 12503
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Not sure what you mean. Try the Viera Tools button on the remote.

I do have the ST50, but I believe they are the same. Anyway, I'm referring to the menu where I can view how many times my TV has been turned on and how many hours are on it?
post #11259 of 12503
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Originally Posted by I WANT MORE View Post

One of the worst. I have emailed/tweeted them about it. Ridiculous.

Haven't watched that channel but have had lots of the supposed bad stations on ESPN etc not a hint ot IR and I have looked hard for it. Also had some extended calibration sessions with menus and patterns on the screen and again cant find IR. Definitely not every panel that suffers
post #11260 of 12503
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Originally Posted by kenho21 View Post

I do have the ST50, but I believe they are the same. Anyway, I'm referring to the menu where I can view how many times my TV has been turned on and how many hours are on it?

Thats the service menu, just search the forum been posted many times
post #11261 of 12503
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Originally Posted by I WANT MORE View Post

One of the worst. I have emailed/tweeted them about it. Ridiculous.

Too bad we don't have a compiled list of all the worst offenders for logos/tickers so we could complain en masse. =) Although I seriously doubt that many, if any networks would even give serious thought to changing their logos to a more plasma-friendly design.

Some channels are absolutely horrible these days. While some logos have become transparent, others seem to have become bigger and more obtrusive. There's nothing more annoying than watching a television program and having the bottom 1/3 of the screen fill up with some stupid animated ad for another television program on the network you're watching during the show. It's so distracting and makes me not even want to watch the program live, but instead watch it on blu-ray or something. :P
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Originally Posted by Einskaldir View Post

Too bad we don't have a compiled list of all the worst offenders for logos/tickers so we could complain en masse. =) Although I seriously doubt that many, if any networks would even give serious thought to changing their logos to a more plasma-friendly design.

Some channels are absolutely horrible these days. While some logos have become transparent, others seem to have become bigger and more obtrusive. There's nothing more annoying than watching a television program and having the bottom 1/3 of the screen fill up with some stupid animated ad for another television program on the network you're watching during the show. It's so distracting and makes me not even want to watch the program live, but instead watch it on blu-ray or something. :P


+1

I haven't watched live tv since 2003 and even then it was just movie channels. My wife still does though.
post #11263 of 12503
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Originally Posted by pjrace1 View Post

Feels like Christmas. VT50 65" arrived today. Unbelievable right out of the box. BB delivery was great. They hauled it upstairs, put it on stand, connected the cables and started her up and then hauled away an old 36" tube tv. Watched a little HBO, changed the picture setting to THX Bright and it was fantastic. Running the slides now.

Looked fresh out of the box but how would I check to see how many hours are on TV?
This has been posted multiple times on the thread, as recently as a couple of days ago. You can also search for "official how to check the hours" on high def junkies website and bookmark it.
post #11264 of 12503
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Originally Posted by NickBaragona View Post

Ok, I just ordered it from Abes of Maine for $1598! I was persuaded to go with the $200 White Glove delivery, in exchange for a $200 restuarants.com gift card.
You see a lot of that nasty sort of upsell with electronics on the Internet.

You basically paid $1,800 for the TV including delivery, which is about $50 less than I paid for my 55" six months ago The difference was that the price I paid was exactly what was listed on the website, and included the "white glove" delivery.
post #11265 of 12503
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

I am very happy with the Chief TS525TU mount I bought.

Thank you so much for that in-depth post regarding your mount, DSperber. You should be a salesman for that company. I'm in a situation where I could use the 8" offset that the mount provides as well as the motion the mount offers and the option to have it low-profile. The mount I currently have is from my old plasma and is bottow-of-the-barrel from a previous owner (of our house). I want to replace that anyways and even though I only have the 55" version of of the VT50, I don't mind paying a premium (although preferably not full retail @$500) for a well-designed mount for this TV. For installing a 55" version with this mount, I assume I don't need to buy anything additionally as you had to for the 65"...

I've been following prices on this mount ever since you posted about it and currently it's at the lowest I've seen it advertised from any reputable seller. Not sure how long the sale will last, but it's currently $317.98 at Best Buy with free shipping (and the option to purchase online and pick it up locally if it's in stock). Think I'm going to listen to your rave reviews on this DSperber. =D Appreciate all the work you put into that post with the pictures and descriptions! Thanks!
Edited by Einskaldir - 3/21/13 at 12:08pm
post #11266 of 12503
I thought I'd give a shout-out to Best Value TV Swivels for their high quality, affordable swivel stands. For those of you who choose not to wall-mount your VT50 like me and need better viewing angles due to your furniture placement, this is the ticket. They're only $33, ship out immediately, and they literally swivel with one finger and very little effort a full 360 degrees. Here's the site:

http://www.bestvaluetvswivels.com/blacklcd.htm

And here's mine on my console, before and after.

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post #11267 of 12503
Posted my initial impressions of the Xpand X105BT on another thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409490/panasonic-2012-compatible-3d-glasses-thread/180#post_23109095
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Originally Posted by Rice Rocket View Post

I suspect the supply for the 2012 versions of the Panasonic 3D glasses are drying up, and the prices are now higher (around $70 - $80) than what they were just a month ago (between $50 to $60). Panasonic still hasn't indicated whether there'll be a new 2013 model. The bad news is that they went back to passive 3D for their 2013 LED, which probably means fewer active 3D glasses sold, higher prices, and fewer deals.

Thankfully, the $20 2012 Samsungs work equally as well. That is, other than subjective fit, a harder to use on/off button, disposable batteries and stray light rejection. The newer slightly redesigned 2013 Samsung SSG-5100GB is already available at the big river for the same price. Looks like they improved the button and the size, shape and angle of the lenses may be slightly better:

Samsung 2013:


Samsung 2012:




The best deal may just be the Xpand 105's that are on sale for $29 with rechargeable batteries and adjustable nose piece. I ordered 4 today to see how well they work:
post #11268 of 12503
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

I was j/k and giving you credit at the same time. Tbh I still go back to 48hz because it does seem better, I'm not what 60 is good for. I'd love to have 96 though smile.gif.

Odd that 60 works nicely in2d though.


I wonder if 48hz in 3D isnt actually 96hz mode. Think about it, its per eye with 3D. So 48+48=96. Just a WAG.
post #11269 of 12503
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Originally Posted by code681 View Post

Can someone enlighten a fresh starter whether modern HDTV plasma panels are capable of reproducing AVC-encoded video with 10-bit profile (from PC)?
When "1080p Direct" is set to on, up to 12 bit per channel color can be accepted from the source.

Whether this can be accurately displayed is another question, but with the quality of the VT50 panel and its accuracy when calibrated, I don't suspect that any other large display would be better.
post #11270 of 12503
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Originally Posted by Rice Rocket View Post

Posted my initial impressions of the Xpand X105BT on another thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409490/panasonic-2012-compatible-3d-glasses-thread/180#post_23109095

I can confirm the XpanD X105BT work on my VT50; I synced them with no problem, and watched a little 2D-3D converted content. I don't have a 3D Blu-ray player yet.

Mark
post #11271 of 12503
I'm loving my 65" VT50 I got last week. One thing I've noticed is that almost every time I start up Viera Connect after turning the TV on, it prompts me to run the Connection Wizard. Is that normal? Are there any known issues with this or workarounds? Thanks for the help.
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Would like to thank all of you that participate in this forum and my tech savy Brother in law for helping me decide on the VT50 65" After a month of wondering if I spent my money wisely, I found out I did. I've had my TV for two days and it is absolutley incredible! Have learned much in these forums over the last month since starting this home theater project and have found your opinions to be very insightfull. Thank You.
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Does anyone know if there is a way to program a button on an universal remote to switch to a specific input on the VT50 ?

Example: i want Button A to switch to HDMI1 input and Button B to switch the TV to HDMI2 input
post #11274 of 12503
Does the remote have a macro function?
post #11275 of 12503
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Originally Posted by Einskaldir View Post

Thank you so much for that in-depth post regarding your mount, DSperber. You should be a salesman for that company.
Thanks. It really turned out well for me, so I'm sharing. I thought the visual "progress report" from start to finish would be helpful, but a lot of the creative credit for how to create that "wall" in what was a "hole" goes to my cabinet maker. The black velvet was my idea.

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I'm in a situation where I could use the 8" offset that the mount provides as well as the motion the mount offers and the option to have it low-profile.
I thought you said your cabinet required a mount that could extend 27" if I recall. I assume you were thinking of putting the mount on the "back wall" of a large opening like mine. Am I wrong?

My initial thoughts were similar, but my cabinet maker came up with the plan of just building the "wall" at the front of the "hole", so the mount could attach just like it was really a genuine wall in the first place.

Unless you're going to have something like that the full extension, motion and swivel that would otherwise be possible can't really happen. In other words, if the mount is already extended fully from the back wall to the front of your cabinet, there's no way it can then twist or swivel, unless I don't have a proper picture of what you're planning on doing.

But I think you can see from my pictures just how the mount works, and how it attaches to both the wall and the back of the TV. I'm sure you have decided how this (or similar) mount would fit into your situation.

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For installing a 55" version with this mount, I assume I don't need to buy anything additionally as you had to for the 65".
Correct. That extra adapter is only for the 65VT50. The standard mount is compatible with the 55VT50.

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I've been following prices on this mount ever since you posted about it and currently it's at the lowest I've seen it advertised from any reputable seller. Not sure how long the sale will last, but it's currently $317.98 at Best Buy with free shipping (and the option to purchase online and pick it up locally if it's in stock). Think I'm going to listen to your rave reviews on this DSperber. =D Appreciate all the work you put into that post with the pictures and descriptions! Thanks!
The instructions seemed a little cryptic at first (having never done this before). But after a few false starts we figured it all out. The measurements provided in the pictures of the mount and also of where the mounting holes are on the back of the TV were perfect, so figuring out exactly where the TV would end up on the wall worked exactly as I wanted.

The bracket that attaches on the back of the TV has many holes in it on the vertical sides, so you can also adjust where it ends up vertically. I wanted it to have the center of the TV directly in front of my eyes and perpendicular to my line of sight as I was seated in the opposite side of the room. So we ended up with one false start as it ended up too high. We then realized what the instructions were telling us about those holes on the vertical strips on the back, and had to remove the TV to re-do the bolts correctly to drop the TV about 2" when mounted, and then re-mount the TV. Now it came out perfectly, tilted downward (from the top) just a few degrees for my desired straight-on viewing angle from where I'm sitting.

Anyway, that's a good price at BB. Hope it works out for you.
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Originally Posted by anarchoi View Post

Does anyone know if there is a way to program a button on an universal remote to switch to a specific input on the VT50 ?

Example: i want Button A to switch to HDMI1 input and Button B to switch the TV to HDMI2 input

First you will need to obtain the discrete commands for On, Off, and the HDMI inputs - I have an old MX-500 remote that cannot be programmed using a computer, it only learns via direct IR transfer. I went to my local high-end A/V purveyor and they were able to provide the discrete commands off one ot their remotes. I learned all the discrete input commands to separate buttons on my remote. That will give you the discrete input buttons you cited in your example.

If you want the TV to power on and set itself to a particular input, you need a remote that can program in a delay between commands, and as a previous poster indicated, you need a remote with a macro function. The problem with the Viera and a lot of other TVs is that they need a few second delay after you power them on before they will accept commands.

Here is the macro string I used to take the set to specific input HDMI(x):

Discrete Power ON
2 Second Delay
Discrete HDMI(x)...5 times in a row

You might be able to reduce hitting the HDMI input to less than 5 times, if you can increase the delay time between the Power On and the HDMI commands. My remote has a limit of 2 seconds delay, so I padded out the time with hitting the discrete input key 5 times.

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Paul
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Originally Posted by Paul Kile View Post

First you will need to obtain the discrete commands for On, Off, and the HDMI inputs - I have an old MX-500 remote that cannot be programmed using a computer, it only learns via direct IR transfer. I went to my local high-end A/V purveyor and they were able to provide the discrete commands off one ot their remotes. I learned all the discrete input commands to separate buttons on my remote. That will give you the discrete input buttons you cited in your example.

If you want the TV to power on and set itself to a particular input, you need a remote that can program in a delay between commands, and as a previous poster indicated, you need a remote with a macro function. The problem with the Viera and a lot of other TVs is that they need a few second delay after you power them on before they will accept commands.

Here is the macro string I used to take the set to specific input HDMI(x):

Discrete Power ON
2 Second Delay
Discrete HDMI(x)...5 times in a row

You might be able to reduce hitting the HDMI input to less than 5 times, if you can increase the delay time between the Power On and the HDMI commands. My remote has a limit of 2 seconds delay, so I padded out the time with hitting the discrete input key 5 times.

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Paul

To the OP buy a Harmony if you can find one, much simpler more versatile. Programming is done on pc thru usb.
post #11278 of 12503
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

I thought you said your cabinet required a mount that could extend 27" if I recall. I assume you were thinking of putting the mount on the "back wall" of a large opening like mine. Am I wrong?

Actually, that was someone else I think. Mine will be on the wall to the right of our fireplace (the fireplace is not centered in the room due to an addition. I do like how low profile this mount appears to be though and my studs aren't centered where I'll be mounting it (are they ever?). Also, we'll be having some drywall removed that was installed over our brick fireplace. Until we do that later this summer, I'll need to extend the TV out a bit from the wall to clear the drywall and plug in and remove HDMI cables, etc. Plus, it'll be nice to turn the TV as needed (sometimes we watch TV while prepping in the kitchen).

It might be a more expensive mount, but it appears as though it has a lot of uses and should be around for years.

Hopefully the instructions won't be too cryptic for me to figure out as I've never self-installed either. =) I'll be sure to bug you though if I get stuck!
post #11279 of 12503
I have tried the new VIERAremote2 app on my iPhone 4s and iPad and it won't turn the VT50 on either, although it will turn the TV off. Wonder if Panasonic is doing anything to provide an app that works.
post #11280 of 12503
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Originally Posted by jacbec View Post

I have tried the new VIERAremote2 app on my iPhone 4s and iPad and it won't turn the VT50 on either, although it will turn the TV off. Wonder if Panasonic is doing anything to provide an app that works.

This is via wifi, correct? That's not possible when the TV is off because it would be disconnected from the wifi. Not a bad app, just a limitation of a wifi-based remote.
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