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post #11851 of 13477
Sorry got spun around. So for 2 and 3 meter hdmi cables, which ones are we collectively agreeing are best?
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Sorry got spun around. So for 2 and 3 meter hdmi cables, which ones are we collectively agreeing are best?
Good luck with that one. biggrin.gif
I guess Ill start. Those lengths arent very long so any high speed HDMI cable will do.
Edited by Bond 007 - 4/20/13 at 5:55pm
post #11853 of 13477
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Sorry got spun around. So for 2 and 3 meter hdmi cables, which ones are we collectively agreeing are best?
Good luck with that one. biggrin.gif
I guess Ill start. Those lengths arent very long so any high speed HDMI cable will do.
That's right. smile.gif

I've been using high speed 28 AWG cables from Monoprice in those lengths. You can pay more for Redmere tech at Monoprice and use 36 AWG cables for more flexibility. As long as the cables aren't defective the results will be identical.

If one of your cables is going to your VT50 and you need to bend it, the Redmere cable might be best. Another thought is that the 28 AWG passive cables have wide terminators which means that on my AVR things get pretty tight. I just replace the inputs to my AVR with 36 AWG passive HDMI cables (not Redmere tech) from MyCableMart which gives me more flexible cables and a lot more space at the AVR for HDMI connections.

Back to the original point, all working HDMI cables produce the same results as long as they are certified to be high speed. There is no audio/video technology source, through 4K, that will stress that specification.

Monoprice doesn't recommend daisy chaining Redmere tech cables, but there are people who have put up to four of them into a single chain. Some passive switches have cause problems too.

EDIT: You can avoid bending HDMI cables on Panasonic displays by using two 270 degree adapters from Monoprice. The upside is that they are cheap. The downside is that every HDMI connection can effect the signal or become a weak point in the HDMI signal thread from source to display. It's just something else to check. Those that use the adapters don't seem to have problems with them.
Edited by htwaits - 4/20/13 at 7:05pm
post #11854 of 13477
Thanks Bond and Htwaits. I'm due for new ones now smile.gif. Red mere it is.
post #11855 of 13477
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It requires an input board replacement.
Cant find in for my particular model frown.gif
post #11856 of 13477
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Thanks Bond and Htwaits. I'm due for new ones now smile.gif. Red mere it is.
Monoprice will probably give you the best deal.
post #11857 of 13477
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Thanks Bond and Htwaits. I'm due for new ones now smile.gif. Red mere it is.

I bought 13 Redmeres from Monoprice (3 and 6 footers), but for a non-powered HDMI switch, I bought a couple of NON-REDMERE cables from (monoprice did NOT have these ultra-slim non redmeres especially in lengths under 3 feet:

http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=173


1.5ft Ultra-Slim HDMI Cable with Ethernet 36 AWG Gold Plated (Model #JC-HH36-01)
post #11858 of 13477
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Have you tried Panasonic?
A Panasonic board for a samsung?
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Have you tried Panasonic?
A Panasonic board for a samsung?
eek.gif Too many posts on too many threads. eek.gif
post #11860 of 13477
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eek.gif Too many posts on too many threads. eek.gif
Perfectly understandable. Ive certainly done it a few times myself. wink.gif
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eek.gif Too many posts on too many threads. eek.gif
Perfectly understandable. Ive certainly done it a few times myself. wink.gif
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post #11862 of 13477
I am currently watching a episode of Vegas via the play-on app on the DNLA server.
it looks like the picture is zoomed in a little bit but when I use the aspect control there is three options: 1) normal 2) aspect one 3) aspect 2
I haven't seen this listed or discussed at all on this board as to what exactly this all is...
post #11863 of 13477
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I bought 13 Redmeres from Monoprice (3 and 6 footers), but for a non-powered HDMI switch, I bought a couple of NON-REDMERE cables from (monoprice did NOT have these ultra-slim non redmeres especially in lengths under 3 feet:

http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=173


1.5ft Ultra-Slim HDMI Cable with Ethernet 36 AWG Gold Plated (Model #JC-HH36-01)

Those look great as well. Hmm same price too. Choices choices

Thanks
post #11864 of 13477
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Those look great as well. Hmm same price too. Choices choices

Thanks
If I remember right, RETURN10 will save you 10% at mycablemart.com. Try it. smile.gif
post #11865 of 13477
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Those look great as well. Hmm same price too. Choices choices

Thanks
If I remember right, RETURN10 will save you 10% at mycablemart.com. Try it. smile.gif
You gave Mactavish and I a different code but I can't remember what it was. eek.gif
post #11866 of 13477
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You gave Mactavish and I a different code but I can't remember what it was. eek.gif
I dont recall it either. It was only good until the 18th. RETURN10 is a code that they email me all the time for being a return customer.
MOVING....thats what the code was. Because they are moving into a different warehouse. I guess they wanted to wittle down the inventory before they moved. It was good for 15%. RETURN10 is good for 10% and as far as I know is good all the time.
post #11867 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Mactavish View Post

I bought 13 Redmeres from Monoprice (3 and 6 footers), but for a non-powered HDMI switch, I bought a couple of NON-REDMERE cables from (monoprice did NOT have these ultra-slim non redmeres especially in lengths under 3 feet:

http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=173


1.5ft Ultra-Slim HDMI Cable with Ethernet 36 AWG Gold Plated (Model #JC-HH36-01)

Those look great as well. Hmm same price too. Choices choices

Thanks
Just keep in mind that the short 36 AWG cables are passive. There is a good discussion here about the differences. Some of the recommendations may be over cautious. Mactavish, myself, and others in the linked threads have violated some of the precautions without a problem. That doesn't mean that others, with different equipment, might not have trouble.
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FWIW, I did some testing today with an RGB 444 video level input today with my system and observed these things:

The HDMI Setting in the menu, which is basically Auto, Video or PC Level worked correctly. Auto and Video were accurate, if I forced PC it washed out the image.

While I found 1080p Source Direct On beter for ycbcr, for RGB I found it better off.

It appeared to me to handle RGB input fine, and the Auto HDMI setting worked. I know its not as common, but stuff like the PS3 apps and Roku are known to output RGB, so its always good to test.
post #11869 of 13477
I need a new TV and the 65" VT50 is still available, though in small numbers. For those owning the TC-P65VT50, would you buy one again or should I spend 25% more than its current price and get the VT60?
Thanks
post #11870 of 13477
Id buy one again. I was at that crossroads, and after talking to Cleveland Plasma, I took the deal on the VT50. Regardless of what propaganda you have seen and will see about 2013, between Samsung and Panasonic Ive bought 5 plasmas since 2008. They dont change that much, especially not lately. I think Panasonic is kinda milking the tech down to the eventual stopping of production.

If I could take my money back today, I might would have kept my GT30 smile.gif
post #11871 of 13477
Can someone provide me with the marketing features/spec sheet .pdf for the TC-P65VT50? It's no longer avaiable on the Panny site.
Thanks
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I need a new TV and the 65" VT50 is still available, though in small numbers. For those owning the TC-P65VT50, would you buy one again or should I spend 25% more than its current price and get the VT60?
Thanks

How extreme are you about good color?

If very, I'd wait for the reviews on the VT60.

If not so much, go ahead and get a VT50.
post #11873 of 13477
Why would you say that?
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Just wanted to take a moment to review the calibration I got from D-Nice on my 55" VT50. Noticeable difference would be an understatement. If there are any new owners out there on the fence about whether a calibration is worth it, let me help you out...YES, and I recommend contacting D-Nice. He is very professional, tours all over, knows his craft and takes the necessary time to get the job done right...a class act.

I liked the PQ out of the box, but didn't buy a TV with all the calibration capabilities just to let it sit. After calibration, I could tell an immediate difference in clarity and color. ISF Day is worth the price of admission. The best way I can describe what I see, is a display that provides the vibrant colors of LCD without the over saturation and flaws of edge-lit LED/LCD. That, plus the deep blacks and better motion control of Plasma.

After having to return 3 Samsung LED (ES7100 twice & ES8000), I'm all in with Plasma and this VT50 is a champion.
post #11875 of 13477
why not just the S60. Isn't that one supposed to be as good as ours but with 2 free glasses and a bit cheaper?
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Why would you say that?

probably the color red.
post #11877 of 13477
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Originally Posted by THeCozen1 View Post

Just wanted to take a moment to review the calibration I got from D-Nice on my 55" VT50. Noticeable difference would be an understatement. If there are any new owners out there on the fence about whether a calibration is worth it, let me help you out...YES, and I recommend contacting D-Nice. He is very professional, tours all over, knows his craft and takes the necessary time to get the job done right...a class act.

I liked the PQ out of the box, but didn't buy a TV with all the calibration capabilities just to let it sit. After calibration, I could tell an immediate difference in clarity and color. ISF Day is worth the price of admission. The best way I can describe what I see, is a display that provides the vibrant colors of LCD without the over saturation and flaws of edge-lit LED/LCD. That, plus the deep blacks and better motion control of Plasma.

After having to return 3 Samsung LED (ES7100 twice & ES8000), I'm all in with Plasma and this VT50 is a champion.

Two questions:

1) Do you know what size windows he used? Im still toying with mine.

2) Did he start with color temp Normal?
post #11878 of 13477
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

probably the color red.


Well, looking at the AV Forums review I dont see where they advanced chart looks any better than a VT50. Secondly, they found the DCI Mode worse than the normal Rec 709 mode and used it for calibration. I think calibrators may end up using the "normal" mode for calibration, but I may be wrong.
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Well, looking at the AV Forums review I dont see where they advanced chart looks any better than a VT50. Secondly, they found the DCI Mode worse than the normal Rec 709 mode and used it for calibration. I think calibrators may end up using the "normal" mode for calibration, but I may be wrong.

think guys like sillysally with those 3d lut boxes would be able to exploit the extra red color more effectively then since they have more freedom to correct the colors?
post #11880 of 13477
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Originally Posted by THeCozen1 View Post

Just wanted to take a moment to review the calibration I got from D-Nice on my 55" VT50. Noticeable difference would be an understatement. If there are any new owners out there on the fence about whether a calibration is worth it, let me help you out...YES, and I recommend contacting D-Nice. He is very professional, tours all over, knows his craft and takes the necessary time to get the job done right...a class act.

I liked the PQ out of the box, but didn't buy a TV with all the calibration capabilities just to let it sit. After calibration, I could tell an immediate difference in clarity and color. ISF Day is worth the price of admission. The best way I can describe what I see, is a display that provides the vibrant colors of LCD without the over saturation and flaws of edge-lit LED/LCD. That, plus the deep blacks and better motion control of Plasma.

After having to return 3 Samsung LED (ES7100 twice & ES8000), I'm all in with Plasma and this VT50 is a champion.

welcome here, I think i share the same feelings wink.gif
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