Official Panasonic VT50 owners thread - Page 41

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I may be wrong, but I thought you had said that the ST's black level will drop a bit after a few hundred hours, then rise back to it's original reading. (i.e. the 55ST50 going from 0.0049 to 0.0026 and back) If I'm remembering correctly.

Do you anticipate the 65ST50-or all 2012 Panasonics-behaving the same way? Thanks.

I never said that. You are mixing my comments with someone else as I only provided data that the black level dropped on a 50ST50 during 268 hours of use. I'm not doing long term MLL tracking on any 2012 display so I cannot say what will happen.

Hey guys, I just got a 65vt50. Im trying to break it in properly, so I was wondering if someone could give me some tips. I have read around, and its hard to find out what settings the tv needs to be in for the break in, or if it even matters. I know some people want it in higher contrast, but Im going to choose against that in case something does happen to prevent IR. Anyone have any other suggestions? Also, im guessing that cinema mode is what most people are watching their tv in?

FYI I have the master break/burn in disk, and im guessing I just loop that for 24 hours, right

Break In has no effect on the panel's resistance to IR or Burn-In. It hasn't been this way for years now. If this is the reason you're breaking in the TV, then don't bother - just watch it normally for a few hundred hours while the panel settles in, then go back into the settings menus and fine tune your picture settings.

is there a link, or a post to D-nice Vt50 calibration settings?

I'm helping my uncle setup his 65 vt50 and have been impress coming from Kuro 101. My question is when running THX mode does this really disable pixel orbiter as oppose to using custom picture settings. Currently we have HD size set at 2, I think thats the proper setting when watching blu ray. Pioneer calls it dot by dot

D-Nice said in June

ok, thanks. Ill just watch it normally then. Ill try to run the AVSHD disc after I get a few hundred hours on it. What recommended viewing settings should I use out of the box? Cinema?

No, one of the THX modes would be better.

what are black levels on the 55" VT50?...still in the .002 range?

If I mostly watch sports and play video games, would you recommend the VT50 over the ST50? Is it worth the price difference for someone who doesn't care about styling?

I'd recommend the ST50 in that case. It's ~$1000 cheaper and you really won't be missing much -- the ST50 is a great display.

Yes, when plasmas were selling for high teens, there were no other ways to get a flat panel TV. The mere fact of such a thing was amazing and worth paying a fortune for.

No such set of facts exists anymore. Extrapolating what happened 10+ years ago to OLED adoption, therefore, makes little sense.

That said, some people will, of course, "overpay" to have the first ones of them -- even though many of those people will probably not even really see much in the way of picture quality differences.

Thank you. I appreciate your response.

One last question. My living room is semi bright and can be controlled by closing the blinds. Would you still recommend the ST50 or should I go with an LED? How bad is glare on the ST50?

Buy the GT50 and don't worry so much about drawing the curtains.

I don't think there are many TVs that have matte screens this year. I looked for one at BB earlier this year and didn't see any. If they were there, then they must have been up near the ceiling at my store.

Do you recommend the GT50 because it has a different filter than the ST50? Also, if I decide to get an AVR with an HQV® Vida VHD1900 video processor, should I bypass the receiver or do you think the processor will help "clean-up" the image?

The ST50's Plasma Panel Module and AR Filter is the exact same one that's used in the GT50 - they're absolutely identical.

Check this BB stand out. It is solid wood and already put together. It originally sold for 699.00 and though it says it 399.00 when I ordered mine it was down to 250.00. This is a steal. The reviews there are great 65 reviews, 4.8 out of 5). My review is the most current one. It's 68 inches wide and a very solid and nice looking stand.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Whalen+F...1366&st=whalen tv stands&cp=1&lp=8

To airborn007: If you set it to HD size 1 (95% overscan rate) that will allow the pixel orbiter to work and the pixels to move. If I am wrong, please correct me, but I remember reading this in another post.

Thank you!

If I decide to get an AVR with an HQV® Vida VHD1900 video processor, should I bypass the receiver or do you think the processor will help "clean-up" the image?

Well, I submit that it does make sense. The reason for high price had as much to do with the fact that sets were not mass produced as they were a novelty item. OLED will likely follow the same path.

Yes, people will over pay. My RPTV in 1999 was almost $5k, and yes, I bit

I paid $650.00 for my first VCR

Page 90 here: http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...-HELP_VT50.PDF
No Divx/xvid, I think it's the same formats as the bluray. MP4 and MKV with H.264/MPEG1/MPEG2

I'm thinking the only reason for using HD size 1 at 95% screen size is to get full picture image w/o any cutoff. My experience so far is only with Pioneer, you have the option to run orbiter on all screen size and if image is full on screen it does cut off a small portion of your picture. The question is when using THX picture mode does it change to HD size 2 and the tv turns off pixel orbiter.

Update: THX mode does disable pixel orbiter.

Did I miss the results from the 2012 Shootout? Have they been posted yet?

I will be receiving my 65vt50 almost any day. After reading RandyWalters comments concerning break-in procedures for the vt50 by running it in one of the THX modes with normal viewing, I am planning on setting my vt50 on THX Bright Room for the day, and THX Cinema at night without pro calibration in the future. My question for Randy, or others for that matter, is: Would it be safe to run channels with logos and scrolling bars, such as Fox Businness News, etc. during this 100-200 hour break-in period? In other words, would this type of viewing be considered "normal viewing?" Also, maybe some minor tweaks within the THX modes will be forthcoming, so I have some idea where to tweak if necessary. Thank you to anyone who may be able to address my concern.

Your submission is noted. I don't agree that it's the same. Flat panel televisions were absolutely amazing and revolutionary. OLED TVs are absolutely not. Most of your friends and neighbors will look at it and say, "I guess it looks better." No one reacted that way to a plasma in 2001. But anyway, people will pay. We agree.


The filters are quite good at this point. Honestly, I think you'll be happy in a semi-bright room with an ST. A lot of LEDs are really reflective such that even though they are great at handling daytime light, they are less great at other kinds of light handling (not true of all of them, but certainly true of some). In other words, it's a tradeoff regardless. If you want a 65", definitely definitely get the Panasonic ST. If you are looking smaller, at least shop the LEDs, but I think in a "semi-bright room", you'll find an ST50 a really nice TV.

To airborn007: My understanding is that when in HD size 2, whether in THX mode or others, the pixel orbiter is cutoff. If you want to run pixel orbiter, switch to HD size 1 on a temporary basis, and go back to HD size 2 later. I plan on setting my vt50 for HD size 1, with pixel orbiter activated, for the break-in period; then to HD size 2 after that. If someone has a better idea, I am more than willing to change my present view. Thanks to all of you for any imput you may have.