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post #12631 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

Re: disabling internal speakers:

Having trawled through this thread, there seems to be different firmwares floating about.
To make it more likely that you'll get the help you're looking for you need to make sure your display has the latest firmware. If you do that there will be no question about "different firmwares floating about."
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I have an early model VT50 that was bought within the first 6m of release.
That should make no difference if you have the latest firmware installed.
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some people emphatically state that the internal speakers can be disabled from Menu > audio > advanced.

My menu path is Menu > sound but there is no advanced or option to disable the internal speakers.
After you've updated your firmware, concentrate on getting owners to help you get from a menu with Menu > Sound > ... to a menu with Menu > Audio > Advanced ...


Good luck.smile.gif
post #12632 of 13486
Thanks for the post!
I tried to update the firmware last night and it failed to find anything newer. Will post back with the exact revision number.

Agreed - I wonder if there is a 'Australian/Pacific' specific firmware which has resulted in the different menu options.

Given that this is a firmware issue one way or another, if anyone that has that option can post their location and firmware, I'll look into trying to fool the TV into updating to that specific one...

Any takers?
post #12633 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

Thanks for the post!
I tried to update the firmware last night and it failed to find anything newer. Will post back with the exact revision number.

Agreed - I wonder if there is a 'Australian/Pacific' specific firmware which has resulted in the different menu options.

Given that this is a firmware issue one way or another, if anyone that has that option can post their location and firmware, I'll look into trying to fool the TV into updating to that specific one...

Any takers?
I didn't realize that you are in Australia. The Internet makes it easy to loose track of where in the world folks are located. There might be a regional difference.

A lot of us indicate where we're locate in the profile section here at AVS. I just sent a PM to someone in Nakhon Phanom, Thailand. wink.gif
post #12634 of 13486
North American VT50 55". Firmware lastest: 1.170.

MENU-AUDIO-ADVANCED AUDIO-"TV SPEAKERS" = ON/OFF

I run my display through my Onkyo AVR, but I leave the TV speaker setting to "ON", but simply put the volume control on the VT50 all the way down, this way, there are times I don't want to run the AVR, and can use the speakers. With the volume slider all the way down, I never see it, has no ill effects. If for whatever reason this is not working the way you need it to, you may have to contact Panasonic, as it seems odd your firmware would not include this feature. Good luck.
post #12635 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Mactavish View Post

North American VT50 55". Firmware lastest: 1.170.

MENU-AUDIO-ADVANCED AUDIO-"TV SPEAKERS" = ON/OFF

I run my display through my Onkyo AVR, but I leave the TV speaker setting to "ON", but simply put the volume control on the VT50 all the way down, this way, there are times I don't want to run the AVR, and can use the speakers. With the volume slider all the way down, I never see it, has no ill effects. If for whatever reason this is not working the way you need it to, you may have to contact Panasonic, as it seems odd your firmware would not include this feature. Good luck.
Thanks.

Evilpaddy is probably sleeping peacefully in Australia about now. If someone in Europe, Asia, or Australia could post their none North Amarica menu options for the TV speakers it might clear up evilpaddy's problem. smile.gif
Edited by htwaits - 7/1/13 at 1:12pm
post #12636 of 13486
Thanks the the above posts!

Yes, as stated, my firmware has the option of 'sound' as the second menu entry from the top. There is no Audio or Advanced. I'll get a screen shot later for you.
If anyone has 'North America' firmware that they can upload, I can try and fool the TV into using it...

Cheers guys! It is odd that Panasonic don't include this universally and as yet, I have not had a reply back from the customer support team.

*edit*
I can turn the speakers down to 0, but as I use the same remote for my Sonos soundbar that's not an ideal option. At present I use an old Samsung remote to control the soundbar.
Worst case scenario I'll invest in a harmony one remote, but as I have no need for any other remotes it seems overkill.

My TV is connected to a plethora of consoles and a mac-mini which runs a Plex front end for my server.
post #12637 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

Thanks the the above posts!

Yes, as stated, my firmware has the option of 'sound' as the second menu entry from the top. There is no Audio or Advanced. I'll get a screen shot later for you.
If anyone has 'North America' firmware that they can upload, I can try and fool the TV into using it...

Cheers guys! It is odd that Panasonic don't include this universally and as yet, I have not had a reply back from the customer support team.

*edit*
I can turn the speakers down to 0, but as I use the same remote for my Sonos soundbar that's not an ideal option. At present I use an old Samsung remote to control the soundbar.
Worst case scenario I'll invest in a harmony one remote, but as I have no need for any other remotes it seems overkill.

My TV is connected to a plethora of consoles and a mac-mini which runs a Plex front end for my server.

I updated the firmware via the TV, but a google search shows this:

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/america/down_na5.html

Download Information of VIERA for North America and Latin America (GT50/VT50/WT series)

Looks like you can download it, and there are instructions, so maybe you can try installing it, but be careful NOT to hose your HDTV. It may not be compatible, so it would be a good idea perhaps, to find the current version you have now, in case you have to revert. Good luck.
post #12638 of 13486
Cheers - I'll grab this now as well as my current firmware. I suspect the only differences will be for the digital tuner which I dont use anyway.
I suspect that I may need to alter the firmware number to force it to update as mine has the same revision number.

Will let you know how I get on.

Thanks guys
post #12639 of 13486
Hello Everyone,


I am pretty new to the AVS Forum and Home Theater world. However, I am hoping that my recent experience in regards to my VT50 and its calibration may be of help to someone.

Back in February of this year, I took the plunge and purchased my first "reference quality" video display (65" vt50) from Cleveland Plasma. My first (out of the box) impression was utter amazement. I must say however, "SIZE DOES MATTER." It took me a while to save up but I am so happy I went with the 65" over the 55" for the living room. I was so impressed, I decided to replace the display in my bedroom with a 55" vt50. I could no longer tolerate watching my led tv.

After properly breaking the sets in and watching them for a couple of months, I started to read up on 'calibration' and all 'calibration' did and did not do. I must say, if you are not a technical minded person, the information can be really overwhelming. At least this is how I felt.

The analogy I can associate with having a REFERENCE QUALTY display and not having it professionally calibrated by a certified calibrator (aka: BB): Would be like owning and having the keys to a brand new Ferrari and not knowing how to drive a manual. Makes absolutely no sense, does it? Why would someone buy that type of car and not know how to drive a manual?

With that said, the first thing I did was search online for settings. I will be the first one to tell you, "everyones eyes are different." I had to play around for weeks until I decided what looked decent to me. The settings I chose to go with, were those of "D NICE." The settings he has posted are pretty good. They got me by for a couple of months. But I just knew in my gut that this set could produce an even better picture.

Versus trying to do a calibration myself, I decided to call in a proffesional. CHAD B!

Did it cost a few more bucks? Yes. Did I have to rearrange some things on the schedule to make it work? Yes. Most importantly, was it worth it? Heck yes. What would you do to be able to drive a Ferrari 150+ mph? ANYTHING!!!! Even save up and pay for lessons on how to drive a manual car.

The results that Chad was able to achieve were awesome. After calibration the picture was: (to my eyes)

1. More Natural
2. More Detailed
3. More Depth
4. More Life Like.

The before and after calibration sheets for each set are attached.

I guess the whole point of me writing this post is to share with everyone how excited I am to even own a VT50. Secondly, to suggest professional calibration to anyone desiring the best picture quality out of their VT50. My recommendations are overwhelmingly in favor of the man, CHAD B for calibration!

In closing, I hope this post really helps someone. Please be kind with the responses. biggrin.gif


Panasonic 65VT50 ISF Day.pdf 1312k .pdf file
Panasonic 65VT50 ISF Night.pdf 1286k .pdf file
Panasonic 65VT50 ISF Day 3D.pdf 547k .pdf file
Panasonic 55VT50 ISF Day.pdf 1340k .pdf file
Panasonic 55VT50 ISF Night.pdf 1344k .pdf file
Panasonic 55VT50 ISF Day 3d.pdf 574k .pdf file
post #12640 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

Cheers - I'll grab this now as well as my current firmware. I suspect the only differences will be for the digital tuner which I dont use anyway.
I suspect that I may need to alter the firmware number to force it to update as mine has the same revision number.

Will let you know how I get on.

Thanks guys
Bye Bye Baby! eek.gif
post #12641 of 13486
I'm running 2.621

Here is a shot of my firmware... On page two there is just HDMI1 input and Reset to defaults...

The TV wont recognise the NA firmware so it will be more convoluted than changing the firmware revision with a hex editor...
post #12642 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

I'm running 2.621

Here is a shot of my firmware... On page two there is just HDMI1 input and Reset to defaults...

The TV wont recognise the NA firmware so it will be more convoluted than changing the firmware revision with a hex editor...

I would advise against installing North American firmware very easy to brick your set
post #12643 of 13486
I'd certainly be too scared to do it.

Evilpaddy, when I've had similar circumstances in the past, I would find a useless button on the remote and bind it to TV volume down. This way I could make sure the tv speakers were down when I was switching over to my surround mode on the same source that I had hooked up redundantly. Whenever I exited the surround mode the normal volume buttons would apply to the tv again.
post #12644 of 13486
NA and other country display versions are not on the same software. Big risk.

I'm currently waiting on Chad to come back through here, hopefully in the next month or two. Also considering the Audyssey Pro calibration he can do with my 3313ci, but it depends on funds at the time.
post #12645 of 13486
Thanks guys. Yes, using the NA firmware wont work easily and would require adjusting a significant portion of the firmware which I am reluctant to do. I was hoping the TV would use either firmware and I could simply increase the version number to force the update. Panasonic have been unhelpful so it's looking that my best option would be to invest in a separate remote which is overkill but likely safer in the long run frown.gif
post #12646 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

Thanks guys. Yes, using the NA firmware wont work easily and would require adjusting a significant portion of the firmware which I am reluctant to do. I was hoping the TV would use either firmware and I could simply increase the version number to force the update. Panasonic have been unhelpful so it's looking that my best option would be to invest in a separate remote which is overkill but likely safer in the long run frown.gif

Cheaper than having to replace your set tho
post #12647 of 13486
That it is! My biggest gripe about Sonos is the lack of a dedicated controller. It's wonderful to be able to use the ipad/iphone to zone rooms and control the audio, but after investing several thousands into the setup, you think that they would include a dedicated hardware remote... rolleyes.gif
post #12648 of 13486
Yeah that's disappointing
post #12649 of 13486
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Originally Posted by evilpaddy View Post

That it is! My biggest gripe about Sonos is the lack of a dedicated controller. It's wonderful to be able to use the ipad/iphone to zone rooms and control the audio, but after investing several thousands into the setup, you think that they would include a dedicated hardware remote... rolleyes.gif

They had one, but dropped it since it functionality was essentially duplicated in your phone or tablet and cost $350.00.

A work around is a tablet. We picked up a B&N Nook HD when the price dropped to $120.00 use as a "remote" for our Sonos and other media devices.
post #12650 of 13486
The tablets are fine, but a hardware button is far more responsive!
post #12651 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mjyst3 View Post

Hello Everyone,

I guess the whole point of me writing this post is to share with everyone how excited I am to even own a VT50. Secondly, to suggest professional calibration to anyone desiring the best picture quality out of their VT50. My recommendations are overwhelmingly in favor of the man, CHAD B for calibration!

In closing, I hope this post really helps someone. Please be kind with the responses. biggrin.gif ]

I'll second this sentiment. I had Kevin Miller calibrate my set about 10 days ago and the difference is well worth the investment. The picture quality is clearly superior now and I would not have thought it possible since the plain vanilla THX Cinema settings out of the box looked pretty awesome without any tinkering. By the way, I have to strongly recommend Kevin to anyone thinking about professional calibration. He worked on my set for about 2 1/2 hours and took the time to fully explain what he was doing and why.
post #12652 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mjyst3 View Post

Hello Everyone,


I am pretty new to the AVS Forum and Home Theater world. However, I am hoping that my recent experience in regards to my VT50 and its calibration may be of help to someone.

]

Yes Chad is a master and does an outstanding job, enjoy your set I know i am still amazed on a daily basis smile.gif
post #12653 of 13486
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Originally Posted by MikeT98213 View Post


I'll second this sentiment. I had Kevin Miller calibrate my set about 10 days ago and the difference is well worth the investment.
Thanks for posting your calibration comments. I've added a link to your post in the flat panel (post number two) lists that are linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post.

If you have further comments to make about your audio or video calibration, it would be great if you could use the edit command to add them to your original post. Enjoy. smile.gif
post #12654 of 13486
hello: i'm a ST30 OWNER but i saw the same problems with omni and dvdm1 my tv start to sparkle red pixels on the specific areas and when you turn off the lights the black screen looks like this....... i call the technical service here in mexico but i belive we have the same problem they didnt give a mad.gif %%&, they told me i dont see nothing wrong, and i say that if they have the pictures the camera what do they need:mad: well i just told them that i need a new tv because this is the third time that my st30 makes a stop on the technical service.......



post #12655 of 13486
Just an update, after calibrating with the Spears and Munsil equal energy patterns and the Oppo as a generator, im very happy with the results. I still see issues in low light with what appears to be a red or green push, but what Ive found is a lot of this is due to a poor source (hd compression).

I've tested by buying the same episode on Amazon VOD and watching it on my Roku 2 in HD. An issue I might see on a particular show on Dish network does not present itself with the higher quality HD streaming. This proves to me it's just general cable/sat industry continued "over" compression of HD and the VT50 not liking poor sources.

I still intend to have Chad out next trip, so he can check results with his jeti and see how he works. As far as any more self calibration Im done, I cant calibrate out compression issues smile.gif
post #12656 of 13486
^ good to hear it. Those source differences will drive you crazy if you keep looking. I feel lucky I haven't seen cable in years with its crap compression.
post #12657 of 13486
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjyst3 View Post

Hello Everyone,


I am pretty new to the AVS Forum and Home Theater world. However, I am hoping that my recent experience in regards to my VT50 and its calibration may be of help to someone.

Back in February of this year, I took the plunge and purchased my first "reference quality" video display (65" vt50) from Cleveland Plasma. My first (out of the box) impression was utter amazement. I must say however, "SIZE DOES MATTER." It took me a while to save up but I am so happy I went with the 65" over the 55" for the living room. I was so impressed, I decided to replace the display in my bedroom with a 55" vt50. I could no longer tolerate watching my led tv.

After properly breaking the sets in and watching them for a couple of months, I started to read up on 'calibration' and all 'calibration' did and did not do. I must say, if you are not a technical minded person, the information can be really overwhelming. At least this is how I felt.

The analogy I can associate with having a REFERENCE QUALTY display and not having it professionally calibrated by a certified calibrator (aka: BB): Would be like owning and having the keys to a brand new Ferrari and not knowing how to drive a manual. Makes absolutely no sense, does it? Why would someone buy that type of car and not know how to drive a manual?

With that said, the first thing I did was search online for settings. I will be the first one to tell you, "everyones eyes are different." I had to play around for weeks until I decided what looked decent to me. The settings I chose to go with, were those of "D NICE." The settings he has posted are pretty good. They got me by for a couple of months. But I just knew in my gut that this set could produce an even better picture.

Versus trying to do a calibration myself, I decided to call in a proffesional. CHAD B!

Did it cost a few more bucks? Yes. Did I have to rearrange some things on the schedule to make it work? Yes. Most importantly, was it worth it? Heck yes. What would you do to be able to drive a Ferrari 150+ mph? ANYTHING!!!! Even save up and pay for lessons on how to drive a manual car.

The results that Chad was able to achieve were awesome. After calibration the picture was: (to my eyes)

1. More Natural
2. More Detailed
3. More Depth
4. More Life Like.

The before and after calibration sheets for each set are attached.

I guess the whole point of me writing this post is to share with everyone how excited I am to even own a VT50. Secondly, to suggest professional calibration to anyone desiring the best picture quality out of their VT50. My recommendations are overwhelmingly in favor of the man, CHAD B for calibration!

In closing, I hope this post really helps someone. Please be kind with the responses. biggrin.gif


Panasonic 65VT50 ISF Day.pdf 1312k .pdf file
Panasonic 65VT50 ISF Night.pdf 1286k .pdf file
Panasonic 65VT50 ISF Day 3D.pdf 547k .pdf file
Panasonic 55VT50 ISF Day.pdf 1340k .pdf file
Panasonic 55VT50 ISF Night.pdf 1344k .pdf file
Panasonic 55VT50 ISF Day 3d.pdf 574k .pdf file





It will only help someone if your PDF's actually had the picture settings in them.
post #12658 of 13486
Settings are not transferable from set to set and chad prefers his settings not be shared

People expect something for nothing here never ceased to amaze me if you want professional results guess what you need to pay for them
post #12659 of 13486
Well said,do you really think after paying for a Pro Cal which is not cheap that people will really post their settings.
post #12660 of 13486
Some do with the permission of their calibrators I don't have an issue with that but it is a personal decision. Even if I had permission I honestly wouldn't post settings here . IMO all that does is perpetuate the myth that you can just find some settings on the Internet and achieve a reference picture
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