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post #12841 of 13480
I am being told that the renter's insurance will not cover it. (SMH).. I think the person(My Mother) that has to call doesn't want to deal with it. Her tv works and I am going to call technical support tomorrow. Everything that was plugged in via HDMI took the crap. Comcast. Any other suggestions PLEASE HELP!
post #12842 of 13480
Yeah, I mean fire/lightening/all that good stuff usually is covered. A I know around here we needed flood separate, but thats pretty normal.
post #12843 of 13480
I am going to try and get her to call. I have the receipts for everything soo.
post #12844 of 13480
I recently completed D-nice's 100 hrs of slides and changed all of my settings to his on Custom. I'm running my HDMI through a Pioneer VSX1122.

The color on the custom setting is AMAZING, however I'm getting this choppiness/blurring of action scenes on any type of movie on cable (FIOS) both live and DVR.

A good example was we were watching Kung Fu panda and the blacks of the panda during fight scenes would have solid horizontal lines. It's almost as the TV couldn't keep up. Is this a FIOS issue or a setting issue? When I change back to THX Bright Room, the choppiness/blurring/horizontal lines go away.

I tried to snap a picture by pausing it but it would clear up as I paused it.
post #12845 of 13480
Since it doesn't show up on bluray, then it's a Fios issue.
post #12846 of 13480
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Originally Posted by typhoonfish View Post

I recently completed D-nice's 100 hrs of slides and changed all of my settings to his on Custom. I'm running my HDMI through a Pioneer VSX1122.

The color on the custom setting is AMAZING, however I'm getting this choppiness/blurring of action scenes on any type of movie on cable (FIOS) both live and DVR.

A good example was we were watching Kung Fu panda and the blacks of the panda during fight scenes would have solid horizontal lines. It's almost as the TV couldn't keep up. Is this a FIOS issue or a setting issue? When I change back to THX Bright Room, the choppiness/blurring/horizontal lines go away.

I tried to snap a picture by pausing it but it would clear up as I paused it.

Hi and welcome to the forum smile.gif Can you provide the following info:

Resolution setting on cable box ? Native or are you upconverting ?
If you are using 1080i what is the 3:2 pulldown setting ?
In the advanced menu what is the motion smoother setting ?
post #12847 of 13480
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Hi and welcome to the forum smile.gif Can you provide the following info:

Resolution setting on cable box ? Native or are you upconverting ?
If you are using 1080i what is the 3:2 pulldown setting ?
In the advanced menu what is the motion smoother setting ?

Thanks. Long time lurker.

I'll check the settings tonight and get back to you.
post #12848 of 13480
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Originally Posted by typhoonfish View Post

Thanks. Long time lurker.

I'll check the settings tonight and get back to you.

Long time listener, first time caller(Mr Obvious reference) smile.gif
post #12849 of 13480
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Originally Posted by Edgeria View Post

Panasonic vt50 Dead? We had a storm and the first lightning/thunder crack hit right behind my apartment. Fried a computer, And I am pretty sure my Yamaha rx-v567 receiver's hdmi board? because I can't get HDMI to run. And 2 cable box's (Comcast is coming friday) and my 42" LG in my bedroom. But my main concern is my VT50 9 Months old and Now I cannot get any HDMI to run through. I tried a Working computer, Nothing, I tried the PC(VGA) port and nothing. Any Idea's on what I should do. My renters Insurance will not cover it. confused.gif

Same thing recently happened to me. I called the nearest Authorized Service center and they knew right away that it was the "A" Board. Supposed to be in this week and installed. Also fried the HDMI board of the receiver that it was on. My Onkyo Tech said that it was most likely from the coax cable for CATV, though my cable boxes seem fine. Fried all of my networking devices as well and I just upgraded them all. Oh well, part of living in the Midwest I guess.
post #12850 of 13480
I figured it out. It was a setting on the Pioneer VSX receiver that was upconverting the signal and screwing it up.
post #12851 of 13480
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Originally Posted by typhoonfish View Post

I figured it out. It was a setting on the Pioneer VSX receiver that was upconverting the signal and screwing it up.

Glad to hear it !! smile.gif
post #12852 of 13480
Watched Oblivion on bluray the other night, and it might be the cleanest movie I've seen on my 65vt50. No noise, just a very clean transfer. Check it out if you haven't seen it.
post #12853 of 13480
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Originally Posted by kben1993 View Post

Watched Oblivion on bluray the other night, and it might be the cleanest movie I've seen on my 65vt50. No noise, just a very clean transfer. Check it out if you haven't seen it.
Great movie and its in 7.1 too.
post #12854 of 13480
Yeah Oblivion was an excellent Bluray transfer. For people that haven't watched "The Great Gatsby" is also a very beautiful cinematic movie experience to show off your plasma panels and HD sound for your surround sound sytems. The movie itself is alright but we really enjoyed it. It was different than everything else.
post #12855 of 13480
I was surprised how clean Evil Dead looked as well.
post #12856 of 13480
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Originally Posted by wzh2hz View Post

I'm going out of town for a few days. I'll check this out when I return. Thanks for the help.
My problem turned out to be my FIOS router. I reset the router to factory defaults. After adding back my devices, I now see the DLNA servers. Thanks for the help.
post #12857 of 13480
Netflix just launched in The Netherlands so today was a good time to finally try out the Viera Tools. Turns out I can't get audio to work with my receiver! I've never had any problems before (Boxee box, PS3 all connect to my receiver and than to my tv with HDMI). But I can't seem to get audio from my tv to my receiver.

Could you guys help me out?
post #12858 of 13480
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Originally Posted by EricNL View Post

Netflix just launched in The Netherlands so today was a good time to finally try out the Viera Tools. Turns out I can't get audio to work with my receiver! I've never had any problems before (Boxee box, PS3 all connect to my receiver and than to my tv with HDMI). But I can't seem to get audio from my tv to my receiver.

Could you guys help me out?
Run a digital optical cable from the tv to your receiver.
post #12859 of 13480
Eric,

Are you trying to use the audio return channel? (ARC)

and if so, does your receiver have that capability?
post #12860 of 13480
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Eric,

Are you trying to use the audio return channel? (ARC)

and if so, does your receiver have that capability?
I've got an Onkyo TX-SR308. Seems to have those functions.
post #12861 of 13480
Eric,

Be sure to have your HDMI setup as it appears on page 32 and 33 of the linked Onkyo PDF http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/tx-sr308_manual_e.pdf

On the VT50 side, be sure that the Onkyo HDMI cable goes to HDMI 2.

Have you setup your VT50 to send ARC out?
post #12862 of 13480
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Eric,

Be sure to have your HDMI setup as it appears on page 32 and 33 of the linked Onkyo PDF http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/tx-sr308_manual_e.pdf

On the VT50 side, be sure that the Onkyo HDMI cable goes to HDMI 2.

Have you setup your VT50 to send ARC out?
Thanks for the tips. Just tried it and it works!
Edited by EricNL - 9/12/13 at 9:31am
post #12863 of 13480
Lets welcome dcal to the thread smile.gif
post #12864 of 13480
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Since it doesn't show up on bluray, then it's a Fios issue.

Definitely the cable signal. I'm with Time Warner Cable and was curious if anyone else thinks the FX channel has horrible PQ (mainly dark scenes)? I was watching "The Bridge" and all dark scenes show pulsating pixels (of the dark shadows). I'm 100% positive it is the cable signal. Is there a name for this issue with dark scenes? I assume it is the compression of 1080p through the coax.

My 55VT50 has never had a single hiccup on Bluray. This D-Nice calibrated panel amazes me every night. Yesterday was a momentus occasion as I disposed of the box. This after having to return (3) ES series Sammys so I was accustomed to keeping "THE BOX."
post #12865 of 13480
Cable and satellite has become so compressed it pisses me off. And yes, the Bridge has issues, as well as many other shows on many other networks. I've given up, I keep pay tv around for sports mainly, Im either recording shows OTA with my new TiVo or downloading them in 1080p from Amazon. They are not streaming but a 2 gig file for playback, the PQ destroys anything Ive seen on satellite. One show for example, Hell on Wheels, looks outstanding.
post #12866 of 13480
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Cable and satellite has become so compressed it pisses me off. And yes, the Bridge has issues, as well as many other shows on many other networks. I've given up, I keep pay tv around for sports mainly, Im either recording shows OTA with my new TiVo or downloading them in 1080p from Amazon. They are not streaming but a 2 gig file for playback, the PQ destroys anything Ive seen on satellite. One show for example, Hell on Wheels, looks outstanding.

So by OTA you mean antenna, correct? Using a Mohu leaf? Amazon also destroys cable signal huh? Wish I could afford the added expense of a TiVo or individual Amazon shows.
post #12867 of 13480
Yepp, antenna. Ive got an antennas direct indoor, Im only about 20 miles from the stations.

Amazon definitely adds costs, if I buy the series pass its about $2.80 an episode, but I helped out by dialing back dish and sending back on of the dvr's. In the end it will definetly cost me more, probably $12/week, but I can deal with it. Once my Dish contract is up Im considering just putting it on pause 6 months out of the year, when football is off.


Like I said, the Amazon file is roughly 2gigs, comes in either 1080p/24 or 1080p/60, and does look great. If you have every watched Amazon VOD on Roku, and realize it looks pretty darn good at full quality, the files look better...
post #12868 of 13480
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Originally Posted by THeCozen1 View Post

Definitely the cable signal. I'm with Time Warner Cable and was curious if anyone else thinks the FX channel has horrible PQ (mainly dark scenes)? I was watching "The Bridge" and all dark scenes show pulsating pixels (of the dark shadows). I'm 100% positive it is the cable signal. Is there a name for this issue with dark scenes? I assume it is the compression of 1080p through the coax.
I'm on TWC/LA, and have also noticed the same "pulsating pixels very visible on dark scenes", which is really a very common MPEG compression artifact when the compression level is just too high or the amount of video information present is just too low. You also see something like it it when viewing a crappy multi-generation and thus multi-compressed video clip from the Internet, that's been compressed and re-compressed multiple times.

Anyway, I agree that this symptom on FX programs is perhaps quite noticeable because there are some very good programs on FX that are "dark"... like "The Americans".

TWC is certainly notorious for re-compressing content to "increase virtual bandwidth" (and thus the number of HD channels they can carry) on their existing infrastructure (even re-compressing OTA local broadcast network channels here in LA). Here in LA they've started using SDV (and requiring subscribers to install Tuning Adapters) as the obviously much more technically appropriate way to "increase virtual bandwidth" without requiring re-compression, but the channels appearing through SDV have unfortunately been low-viewership channels. So popular channels are still being delivered "conventionally" across coax, which unfortunately has seen continuation of content re-compression by TWC/LA and resulting image degradation. It's quite infuriating, which is one reason I've built my own Ceton-based HTPC to replace TWC/LA DVR's, including use of a Hauppauge OTA/ATSC dual-tuner card to pick up freely available OTA/ATSC local network broadcast channels through a roof antenna "as-is" delivered by the networks at whatever bitrate they transmit. I never record/watch via TWC's re-compressed local network equivalents.

So it's hard to decide if this pixelization artifact is coming from FX itself, just sending out its content at a badly compressed or lower-than-typical bitrate, or if the video anomaly is due to additional re-compression of the originally compressed FX content being subsequently imposed by TWC/LA for delivery to end-user subscribers via coax.

Nevertheless... you're not alone in noticing this.

Also, in passing no network broadcasts program content in 1080p. HD content is either 1080i or 720p, although you may have your equipment set to up-convert to 1080p for delivery to your HDTV. Of course depending on your equipment that up-convert to 1080p can possibly occur in one or more boxes, or you might just be delivering "native" 720p/1080i to your HDTV where it gets up-converted for native display at 1080p. So TWC is not having to re-compress 1080p for delivery to you over coax. If they do any re-compression it is of the original 720p/1080i content.
post #12869 of 13480
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Anyway, I agree that this symptom on FX programs is perhaps quite noticeable because there are some very good programs on FX that are "dark"... like "The Americans".

No doubt about "The Americans." That was the first how I noticed it on after starting my venture into buying a new TV. I've seen this dark scene compression mess on both a Samsung ES8000 LED and my keeper (55VT50). There are other networks without this issue (to this extent) so I have to assume FX is delivering heavily compressed material. That's too bad.

I meant 1080i in my previous post as I'm well aware that no cable broadcast is at 1080p.

I choose not to up convert and allow the cable box to broadcast a channel as it was intended. I only watch "HD" channels anyway.
post #12870 of 13480
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Originally Posted by THeCozen1 View Post

I choose not to up convert and allow the cable box to broadcast a channel as it was intended. I only watch "HD" channels anyway.
If you want a real surprise, and you're in the market for a new BluRay player and don't mind spending more than you might have planned, the Oppo BDP-103/105 players provide two external HDMI inputs... say for your cable/satellite receiver.

Any of the internal video processing that the Oppo would normally apply to playback from discs is also applied identically to these external HDMI inputs. And I can confirm that the Oppo does an AMAZING job of up-converting "native" 720p/1080i input HDTV content to GORGEOUS 1080p/60 for output to your HDTV.

I, too, am all for "native" 720p/1080i output of cable/satellite boxes, normally letting the HDTV display (or your own external video processor) do whatever it [probably] does best in converting that for its own native 1080p display. But in this case, the results of letting the Oppo do that up-conversion AS WELL AS VIDEO CLEANUP and feeding truly stunning 1080p HDTV content direct to your HDTV will probably amaze you.

I'm using a 103 to process/up-convert/feed TWC/LA cable to my 65VT50 as 1080p, and it's really remarkable. Doesn't look like "cable".
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