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post #1351 of 12560
5/22/12 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Guys, I'm planning on doing a direct comparison of my KURO 5080 with the VT50 when I get it tomorrow. Obviously it won't be broken in and I won't have it calibrated but I'll use the out of the box THX settings to do the comparison. I've begun taking pictures at specific times in the Planet Earth Caves episode. I noted the time of the evening and camera settings. I will take some more tonight when its dark to compare black levels. I will do some things like purposefully over exposing the image to amplify any differences in black levels so that we can more effectively make comparisons, given that both TV's are capable of producing a fair representation of video black. I expect the VT50 to trounce the 5080 in this regard. I'm also taking pictures of some more "colorful" bits to make that comparison as well.

I'm using a Rebel T2i with the Canon EFS 15-85 (not the 17-85 or 18-85 lower end kit lenses). I'm shooting at an aperture of 5 which will be reasonable sharp but still allow us to capture adequate light in the various conditions.

I'm shooting in RAW and exporting via Lightroom. Any whitebalance adjustments will be applied to BOTH pictures in the same fashion to ensure adequate comparison.

I love the idea, and I'll anxiously await your findings, but be ready for the those who say comparing a new, uncalibrated set to a broken in, calibrated one is apples to oranges. Any chance we could get your initial review and another in 30 days or so after it's more "equal"?
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post #1352 of 12560
5/22/12 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

I love the idea, and I'll anxiously await your findings, but be ready for the those who say comparing a new, uncalibrated set to a broken in, calibrated one is apples to oranges. Any chance we could get your initial review and another in 30 days or so after it's more "equal"?

Yes, I do plan to re-eval after 30 or so days. I'll wait for D-nice to post his settings though. On my 5080 I started with D-Nice settings and followed it up with minor tweaks based on the calibration discs I had at the time and my buddy who had calibration equipment. He's since moved, so I'll have to do D-Nice settings + tweaks to the panel based on my findings but yes I will do a follow up for everyone if you want it.

And yes there will always be naysayers but it will still be fun and perhaps partially informative.

Here's a few images (nevermind the tilt I'll edit that out later on, I think my tripod foot must not be deployed fully or something)...







Those are unedited/unprocessed just a jpeg output. Here's a link to an original size if anyone is interested. Won't look too good because the camera sensor is so good you can see the pixels on the set...

http://treyandkelsie05.smugmug.com/O...FWsK6&lb=1&s=O
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post #1353 of 12560
5/22/12 at 6:49pm
Much appreciation. Thank you.
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post #1354 of 12560
5/22/12 at 7:26pm
I went into the Display Calibration section and could not find any ISF Calibrators in my region--SW Minnesota. Is there anyone who would know if someone is available in this area to calibrate a TCP65VT50 plasma in two or three months? Thanks.
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post #1355 of 12560
5/22/12 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by stretch7 View Post

Here is a link to my 65VT50 installation.

http://www.burnsandburns.net/VT50/VT50.jpg

That looks fantastic.

- Rich
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post #1356 of 12560
5/22/12 at 8:33pm
Stretch 7:

That looks beautiful. Carefully planned and executed. Way to go!
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post #1357 of 12560
5/22/12 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by esquire415 View Post


I'm just thinking that ths silver around the edge may cause hot spots and can be distracting.

I've posted my concern about hotspotting many times because it's not hypothetical. If incident light hits the bezel, it hotspots -- period. No maybe, it does.
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post #1358 of 12560
5/22/12 at 9:49pm
Did Panasonic add some motion enhancement feature to the VT50? I was back in Best Buy today and they had the 65VT50 on Custom and it was oozing SOE. I switched it to THX Cinema and fixed.
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post #1359 of 12560
5/22/12 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Did Panasonic add some motion enhancement feature to the VT50? I was back in Best Buy today and they had the 65VT50 on Custom and it was oozing SOE. I switched it to THX Cinema and fixed.

They had it last year too AFAIK. But yes, they have a motion enhancer setting which can be disabled in the settings.
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post #1360 of 12560
5/22/12 at 10:29pm
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

They had it last year too AFAIK. But yes, they have a motion enhancer setting which can be disabled in the settings.

Why these Best Buy employees insist on having that stupid crap turned on for every display in the store is a mystery to me... my grandparents have a 60" Samy LED and they have that on with gawdaweful motion blur and purple blacks. It's painful but props to them for being the cool old people with a TV bigger than their kids or grandkids

I know someone commented on me using the THX Brightroom settings while comparing the VT50 to the Elite in Best Buy but IIRC Chad B said they were decent which is why I used them. If there are better custom settings I can plug in that wont be defeated by the lights in the store I'd love to try them.
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post #1361 of 12560
5/22/12 at 11:11pm
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post


Why these Best Buy employees insist on having that stupid crap turned on for every display in the store is a mystery to me... my grandparents have a 60" Samy LED and they have that on with gawdaweful motion blur and purple blacks. It's painful but props to them for being the cool old people with a TV bigger than their kids or grandkids

I know someone commented on me using the THX Brightroom settings while comparing the VT50 to the Elite in Best Buy but IIRC Chad B said they were decent which is why I used them. If there are better custom settings I can plug in that wont be defeated by the lights in the store I'd love to try them.

I don't have a custom setting yet and honestly don't think I will I am just enjoying it in home use on thx cinema with some minor changes and I am trying to twist the girls arm to let me get it calibrated by d-nice. And there is a custom setting in the settings thread that I have yet to try so can't attest to it.
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post #1362 of 12560
5/22/12 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by swminn7 View Post

I went into the Display Calibration section and could not find any ISF Calibrators in my region--SW Minnesota. Is there anyone who would know if someone is available in this area to calibrate a TCP65VT50 plasma in two or three months? Thanks.

Just go back over there and ask if anyone will be in your area.
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post #1363 of 12560
5/23/12 at 12:29am
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Originally Posted by swminn7 View Post

I went into the Display Calibration section and could not find any ISF Calibrators in my region--SW Minnesota. Is there anyone who would know if someone is available in this area to calibrate a TCP65VT50 plasma in two or three months? Thanks.

Post in the thread that's linked in the signature area of my post. That should get you a response.
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post #1364 of 12560
5/23/12 at 3:39am
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Originally Posted by venkatesh_m View Post


Lawrence,
The prices u r quoting are not correct. 50ST50 MSRP in Malaysia is less than USD1650. Street prices r at much less than that. Even the 50GT50 MSRP is about USD2100 in Malaysia.

Venkatesh,

I would love to know where did you see the panasonic you mentioned above. R u referring to Harvey Norman? I did saw the GT model being displayed bit not the VT!
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post #1365 of 12560
5/23/12 at 5:12am
Originally Posted by swminn7
I went into the Display Calibration section and could not find any ISF Calibrators in my region--SW Minnesota. Is there anyone who would know if someone is available in this area to calibrate a TCP65VT50 plasma in two or three months? Thanks.

http://www.imagingscience.com/dealer...s:%20Minnesota

that should do it
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post #1366 of 12560
5/23/12 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

yes it can get better in terms of PQ...but I agree, at what price?....$9000 for a 55" OLED???...it'll take years for prices to get anywhere near 'normal'...a VT50 or HX929 or Sharp Elite is good enough for 99% of people until then

I bet most will not even see the PQ difference.....
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post #1367 of 12560
5/23/12 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by stretch7 View Post

This is a home installation. I built this all myself. It previously held a Pioneer Elite HD rear projection. Here is a picture of the structure that supports the VT50.
http://www.burnsandburns.net/VT50/VT50-2.jpg. The concrete blocks are there to counterbalance the weight of the VT50.

Your set up is one of the best I've seen. It does indeed look like a store show room. I like your taste in colors also. The only thing is the left speaker in front of the rack.
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post #1368 of 12560
5/23/12 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by lambo172008 View Post

Originally Posted by swminn7
I went into the Display Calibration section and could not find any ISF Calibrators in my region--SW Minnesota. Is there anyone who would know if someone is available in this area to calibrate a TCP65VT50 plasma in two or three months? Thanks.

http://www.imagingscience.com/dealer...s:%20Minnesota

that should do it

Try Jeff from Accucal. He is another of the fine calibrators that many here have used. He'll be doing my set on June 7th here in Chicago. http://www.accucalhd.com/. Jeff's e-mail is jeff@accucalhd.com.
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post #1369 of 12560
5/23/12 at 6:43am
I am getting closer to selecting the 65VT50 as the replacement to my Pioneer 6020. Still worried a bit about the IR issue compared to what I am used to with my Kuro but I think that is a minor thing. If I can get a decent amount for my Kuro (I still have a year of warranty left on it), I might pull the trigger.

I am still impressed with the Sharp Elite but I can't justify the cost at all especially when comparing it to the 65VT50. I am a plasma guy but I honestly thought I would be going LCD next because I wasn't happy with the direction Panasonic was going. I still have some reservations but it looks like Panasonic did a great job with the VT50. Nothing is perfect obviously, not even the Kuro. Keep the impressions coming. I am excited that I might have a reason to finally upgrade. I love my Kuro though so I haven't jumped yet .
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post #1370 of 12560
5/23/12 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Ng View Post

Venkatesh,

I would love to know where did you see the panasonic you mentioned above. And their respective prices.
One of us must be living in dreamland, and it's not me obviously. R you the owner of a panny plasma?

I sent u a PM on the prices and the links where u can confirm the pricing in Malaysia (MSRP).
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post #1371 of 12560
5/23/12 at 7:35am
I have watched this tv for several hours a day since I got it on monday,and I have yet to see any hint of IR. Anyone else also able to report this? I watched it for a hr on THX bright room or whatever yesterday, and normal monday.
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post #1372 of 12560
5/23/12 at 9:30am
I played diablo 3 for 5 hours last night and I was shocked not to find a ounce of ir. I was sure I would have found something, so far loving my tc-p65vt50!
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post #1373 of 12560
5/23/12 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Your set up is one of the best I've seen. It does indeed look like a store show room. I like your taste in colors also. The only thing is the left speaker in front of the rack.

There is always a need for compromise. I originally thought of locating the components around the left side but that meant that I couldn't see the displays on the PRE/PRO and the Blu-Ray player. Both of those are located above the level of the speaker, so they are easy to see and to access. Nine years ago, when I first built this, on-screen displays for all the sources were not available. Rather than reconfigure everything for the new Panasonic, I stayed with what I was used to.
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post #1374 of 12560
5/23/12 at 9:33am
You guys need to post some pics of your new VT50 beauties!
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post #1375 of 12560
5/23/12 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by Riztnack View Post

I played diablo 3 for 5 hours last night and I was shocked not to find a ounce of ir. I was sure I would have found something, so far loving my tc-p65vt50!

I would love to see a pic of Diablo3 on a p65vt50!

Are you finding any lag issues?
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post #1376 of 12560
5/23/12 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

I would love to see a pic of Diablo3 on a p65vt50!

Are you finding any lag issues?

I play mw3 / diablo 3 / lol and I havent noticed any lag issues. All of my gaming is done from a pc.
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post #1377 of 12560
5/23/12 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post


I would love to see a pic of Diablo3 on a p65vt50!

Are you finding any lag issues?

With the somewhat conflicting input lag reports, it would be great if someone could really put the series through its paces, in all modes and with HDMI and VGA inputs, at minimum. I think this year I finally get to get a new TV, but gaming as much as I do, it would be the best thing ever if I could get the top model, and still play Street Fighter on it.
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post #1378 of 12560
5/23/12 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

Weird question for 65" VT50 owners: if you picked it up in-store, given the massive carton size, what kind of vehicle did you use to get it home? My buddy has a newer model RAV4 that I can borrow.

Hello,

I did not see any one mention it, however, an alternative is to rent a 'moving truck' from your local red and white establishment. Probably rent some straps and moving blankets if you don't have and secure it to the side.

Me personally I would let the store deliver and unpack it in my theatre.
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post #1379 of 12560
5/23/12 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

I've posted my concern about hotspotting many times because it's not hypothetical. If incident light hits the bezel, it hotspots -- period. No maybe, it does.

While the chrome/silver bezel strip is not to my liking either, can't this easily be remedied by placing gaffers' tape over the strip?

Wes
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post #1380 of 12560
5/23/12 at 12:28pm
When I turn on my 65VT50 I am continually amazed at how it's almost impossible to tell the screen is even on until the Viera logo comes on a few seconds later.
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