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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I had a similar dilema and finally wall mounted the set. This made all problems go away and looked much better in the end. Is wall mounting something you have considered? I have also seen a piece of granite or butcher block used to increase stand height.

I have a fireplace behind the TV and would have to mount it way too high. We obviously never use the fireplace, but dismantling it is a lot of work right now. Eventually, I plan on building in an entire false wall and mounting the TV with some in-wall speakers and some nice shelving on either side of it. Just don't tell my wife I plan on doing this.

I'd lift the new TV except that I want to keep the weight consistent with the old one. The furniture is fine Swedish craftsmanship (read: Ikea) and I can't contemplate adding 20-30 lbs. right now.
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Originally Posted by Joe the Grip View Post

Can anyone recommend or discourage the vt50 for gaming? Would IR or burn-in scare some away? I suppose half of the use would be for gaming and the other half for full screen HD content. Thanks.

No worries buy it and enjoy it mine is used for about 30% gaming and haven't had a single ir issue walk away with the game paused for 20 minutes no problem...
post #1713 of 12304
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Originally Posted by CaTaSTrOphiK View Post

No worries buy it and enjoy it mine is used for about 30% gaming and haven't had a single ir issue walk away with the game paused for 20 minutes no problem...

Thank you! It's ordered! (didn't need much of a push)
post #1714 of 12304
Hi are the 65vt50 panels made in Japan or......?
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Originally Posted by Fanaticalism View Post

The differences between the 55VT50 and 65VT50 is that the 65 is 10" larger.


Sorry, couldn't resist. The larger panels may have a lower MLL.

Has anyone calibrated the 55" yet? I'm wondering if the larger panels have a lower minimum light level, do the smaller panels have a higher peak output?

So far the max light output (with panel brightness = medium) for the 65" models seems to be 40-45 ftL.
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Originally Posted by CatBrat View Post

@6SpeedTA95, those first 2 examples the VT50 wins hands down, but I'm not so sure about the 3rd one. Notice the banding in the sky on the Panasonic shot.

Putting the 3D advanced settings, 24p, on 48hz definitely cleared up ghosting problems in the Puss In Boots 3-D movie.

While watching the first Harry Potter movie, I kept rotating between 48 / 60 / 96 hz and had a hard time telling any difference. It seemed that 96hz smoothed out some motion that 48 caused to blur or flicker a bit.

That banding you see in the sky is a product of the camera capturing the image. There is no such banding on the set itself when viewing that scene - FYI

Similar thing happens on the pioneer in some shots. It is significantly worse when I used my old P&S camera.
post #1717 of 12304
Do the dlna on the tv support 96hz i seem only to be able to get 60 hz to work. what is the best software for dlna?

Thanks
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I'm bumping this cause I need to know if this set is defective or not and I have a scheduled calibration coming up.

Is anyone getting a dark gray screen with distortion when the set is changing screens? Not during a movie but say when there is a blank screen after you hit the play button from the movies menu screen. Don't know if it's a settings related problem or not. I also witnessed the blank (top and bottom) area of the screen changing from black to dark gray and repeating during a movie.

Update: I was watching a movie and as the credits rolled, I got close to the screen and it is not even a solid black background. It's like I described it above.
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6Speed, Wow what a really nice review! Thanks for the comparison, I think I am about to go ahead and get the vt50.
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

Has anyone calibrated the 55" yet? I'm wondering if the larger panels have a lower minimum light level, do the smaller panels have a higher peak output?

So far the max light output (with panel brightness = medium) for the 65" models seems to be 40-45 ftL.

D-Nice said 0.0026 for the 55", 0.002 (or 0.0018 in 96Hz) for the 65". Dunno about peak output. The larger panels should have no problems reaching adequate brightness in a bright room though.
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

6Speed, Wow what a really nice review! Thanks for the comparison, I think I am about to go ahead and get the vt50.

I just got my 65VT50 yesterday and I am very happy with it,in the process of breaking it in then will have it calibrated by Kevin Miller
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

I just got my 65VT50 yesterday and I am very happy with it,in the process of breaking it in then will have it calibrated by Kevin Miller

Nice I am planning on picking up the 65 inch as well next week, but I may have a hard time finding someone to calibrate it.
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I ordered the 55VT50 from Best Buy on Sunday. I was debating between this and the GT50 but the VT was marked down by $300 so I went for it. It was funny talking to the sales rep after reading this thread. The guy kept trying to tell me that the GT50 was the same panel as last year's VT. I didn't even try to argue with him, but I was definitely laughing to myself.

It will be delivered this coming Sunday. Can't wait! I'm replacing a 32" Samsung LCD, the LN32A550, so this will be a sweet upgrade.

I saw someone asking about furniture recommendations. Mine's going on a console that I just got from Standout Designs. It is all wood, has hidden wheels, vented equipment compartments with temperature-controlled fans, room for a big center channel and a drawer. Made in Pennsylvania too.

Thanks for sharing all this info so I could finally make a decision and pull the trigger!
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

I'm bumping this cause I need to know if this set is defective or not and I have a scheduled calibration coming up.

Is anyone getting a dark gray screen with distortion when the set is changing screens? Not during a movie but say when there is a blank screen after you hit the play button from the movies menu screen. Don't know if it's a settings related problem or not. I also witnessed the blank (top and bottom) area of the screen changing from black to dark gray and repeating during a movie.

Update: I was watching a movie and as the credits rolled, I got close to the screen and it is not even a solid black background. It's like I described it above.

I've never noticed anything like this. I think I'd set the TV back to all defaults and see if this fixes it. Not sure how to do that, should be in the manual somewhere, I'd think.
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So what would be recommended then for a viewing area of 7 - 8 feet? Currently I have over 10 feet, but am moving. Will I regret going from the 65 down to the 55? The only reason why I am thinking of dropping down to the 55 is the offer I have on my current VT30 will pay for the 55 completely. The 65 up here will cost an additional $1500 over the 55. Which should I buy?

Will the 3d be any different on the 55 over the 65? For example, will "pop" out effects jump out further on the bigger screen or would they be the same?
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

So what would be recommended then for a viewing area of 7 - 8 feet? Currently I have over 10 feet, but am moving. Will I regret going from the 65 down to the 55? The only reason why I am thinking of dropping down to the 55 is the offer I have on my current VT30 will pay for the 55 completely. The 65 up here will cost an additional $1500 over the 55. Which should I buy?

Will the 3d be any different on the 55 over the 65? For example, will "pop" out effects jump out further on the bigger screen or would they be the same?

I currently own the 65vt50 and sit at exactly 7.5' from the screen. I originally had a 55" Sammy that set in the exact same space and with the 65" set it is literally like being in a movie theatre. I was a little worried about it prior to purchasing but cannot see how I ever got along without the larger screen to begin with. The immersion in my opinion is substantially better. As for the 3d...I definately notice more pop with the larger screen as the viewing area is much improved. Again it only makes it that much more immersive. I truly feel you will be happy either way you go. The vt is definately top notch! Hope this helps.
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But is it worth spending an extra $1500 for 10" more? Not sure what the pricing is like in the States, but here I can get the 55" for just over $2900 after tax and the 65" would be $4400 after tax.
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

But is it worth spending an extra $1500 for 10" more? Not sure what the pricing is like in the States, but here I can get the 55" for just over $2900 after tax and the 65" would be $4400 after tax.

It would be to me but that's a decision for you and your budget.

http://displaywars.com/55-inch-16x9-vs-65-inch-16x9
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Well I found a buyer for my Pioneer Kuro so I am thinking about making the jump. I work with a guy who wants a Kuro pretty badly and I am tempted. He offered me a pretty good price considering how old it is. I would still have to shell out over a grand to upgrade to the 65" VT50 so I am weighing my options (didn't really want to fork out that kind of money with other obligations coming up and I just upgraded my speakers). It would be nice to do though because I have had the Kuro for a couple of years and wanted to upgrade before the extended warranty ran out. Decisions, decisions .
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The other option I have is to just keep the VT30. What would people do on here? Keep the VT30 or go to the VT50, possibly smaller?

My main issue with the VT30 is I am starting to not be impressed with the picture quality on anything, besides Bluray. The rest looks soft, colors are starting to look bad, and there is tons of noise.
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

But is it worth spending an extra $1500 for 10" more? Not sure what the pricing is like in the States, but here I can get the 55" for just over $2900 after tax and the 65" would be $4400 after tax.
The other option I have is to just keep the VT30. What would people do on here? Keep the VT30 or go to the VT50, possibly smaller?

My main issue with the VT30 is I am starting to not be impressed with the picture quality on anything, besides Bluray. The rest looks soft, colors are starting to look bad, and there is tons of noise.

I think it is well worth it for 10" more but the person to my left may not. And the person to my right may prefer LCD. And the person in front of me may be Cody Lundin and he has no TV or shoes for that matter.

My opinion is to never ever go down in size. It will lead to the ultimate buyers remorse.

I also think you are playing Jedi mind tricks on yourself with the VT30. Its def not a bad picture but your brain is now downgrading everything about it because the VT50 is out there lurking. I am very grateful that I was not married to my VT30 yet because I would surely be doing the same thing to myself. Personally I would take a small hit just for the smaller bezel. It makes the TV look bigger and better on the wall IMO. Sorry, didnt mean to add to your frustration.
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

The other option I have is to just keep the VT30. What would people do on here? Keep the VT30 or go to the VT50, possibly smaller?

My main issue with the VT30 is I am starting to not be impressed with the picture quality on anything, besides Bluray. The rest looks soft, colors are starting to look bad, and there is tons of noise.

From what I have seen, the VT50 is a pretty big upgrade over the VT30. Regarding size, I would spend the extra money and go for the 65". I know $1500 is a lot but I have been down this road before. Bottom line is you will always wonder if you should have gone bigger. I did that one time when I thought the 50" was big enough instead of the 60". Long story short, I sold the 50" months later, took a loss, and bought the 60". It's your decision but if you are going to have this tv for a few years or more, I would just go with the 65". Less chance of buyer's remorse.
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I think it is well worth it but the person to my left may not. And the person to my right may prefer LCD. And the person in front of me may be Cody Lundin and he has no TV or shoes for that matter.

My opinion is to never ever go down in size. It will lead to the ultimate buyers remorse.

I have a brother that won't watch TV, nor movies. He claims it's the devils playground.
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Well I found a buyer for my Pioneer Kuro so I am thinking about making the jump. I work with a guy who wants a Kuro pretty badly and I am tempted. He offered me a pretty good price considering how old it is. I would still have to shell out over a grand to upgrade to the 65" VT50 so I am weighing my options (didn't really want to fork out that kind of money with other obligations coming up and I just upgraded my speakers). It would be nice to do though because I have had the Kuro for a couple of years and wanted to upgrade before the extended warranty ran out. Decisions, decisions .

I would pay that grand for the VT50 for the extra 5"'s of screen, piece of mind, and aesthetics in heart beat. That is assuming you have the 60" Kuro. If it is a 50" then there is no debate at all in my mind.

If anyone has a Kuro, I strongly suggest selling it now. The VT50 is knocking on its door in terms of PQ and if the next VT## surpasses the Kuro next year.....well good luck selling that Kuro. I am glad I sold mine when I did. Demand is already falling off a cliff for these compared to this time a year ago.
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I would pay that grand for the VT50 for the extra 5"'s of screen, piece of mind, and aesthetics in heart beat. That is assuming you have the 60" Kuro. If it is a 50" then there is no debate at all in my mind.

If anyone has a Kuro, I strongly suggest selling it now. The VT50 is knocking on its door in terms of PQ and if the next VT## surpasses the Kuro next year.....well good luck selling that Kuro. I am glad I sold mine when I did. Demand is already falling off a cliff for these compared to this time a year ago.

Yes I have the 60". Yes I agree. I had a few buyers over the last year that wanted my Kuro. I was offered $500 more than what my friend is going to give me just 6 months ago. I figure I better jump now if I am going to do it. I will just cut back on starbucks and bring my lunch more over the next few months.

It honestly isn't an upgraditis thing for me either (usually was in the past). My gut has always told me in the past to just keep the Kuro because nothing out there was even close. Now my gut is actually telling me it's time. I think I can even use the same peerless wall mount that I have for my Kuro which saves me the hassle of installing another one.
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The question then is, would you rather have a 55" VT50 or a 60" GT50? Both are about the same price which makes the decision difficult. If only the VT was offered in 60"...
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Yes I have the 60". Yes I agree. I had a few buyers over the last year that wanted my Kuro. I was offered $500 more than what my friend is going to give me just 6 months ago. I figure I better jump now if I am going to do it. I will just cut back on starbucks and bring my lunch more over the next few months.

It honestly isn't an upgraditis thing for me either (usually was in the past). My gut has always told me in the past to just keep the Kuro because nothing out there was even close. Now my gut is actually telling me it's time. I think I can even use the same peerless wall mount that I have for my Kuro which saves me the hassle of installing another one.

Our guts are on the same page

Kuro is still king, but the king is on his death bed listening to the Panadragon crushing the castle gates.
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IMO, when looking at the VT50, it's not about price. It's about quality. Either buy the quality, or get 2nd best (or lower) if you're concerned about the money.
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Would probably do the 60" if it existed. What is the difference between the GT and VT? I've heard there is a major improvement going to the VT. I may have to have a look one of these nights to see what the 55" looks like. When it comes down to it, selling the 65" and buying the 55" and having to pay next to nothing does seem better to me and I even find the 65" a bit too big right now. Plus I have to move the thing. It's difficult to move. The store had to hire a massive moving truck to bring it over as it didn't fit in theirs and moving it into a condo building will be difficult in the elevator (likely won't fit there either). I may have to go with the 55" just for the conveinance. The other tv in the house right now is a 46" and it is perfect for the room it is in, which is bigger then what the 65" is in right now, so the 55" should be good.
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Originally Posted by CatBrat View Post

IMO, when looking at the VT50, it's not about price. It's about quality. Either buy the quality, or get 2nd best (or lower) if you're concerned about the money.

I'm all about quality, the price is in the size, 55 or 65. $1500 difference between the two is a bit hard to justify for 10" especially when I find the 65" a bit too big in the room it is in now, I can only imagine what it would be like in a smaller room.
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