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post #1741 of 13486
I'm leaning towards the 55" for a few factors. It's cheaper, easier to move around, and would fit better in a smaller space. Still need to go check it out. I know I had enough problems moving the 65VT30 to my basement and caring the thing and I know there were issues finding a vehicle to transport it, so the 55 would be more hassle free. And I also sometimes find the 65" too big, didn't think that was possible.
post #1742 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

Are the differences in the black levels between the 65 and 55 that noticeable or not?

Between 0.0026fL and 0.002fL, it will be noticeable in a dark room, but not by a lot.
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Is the black level on the 55 alot better then the VT30?

It is considerably better than the VT30. Certainly more noticeable than the difference between the 55 and 65 VT50. Not only are the black levels better than the VT30, but the higher brightness gives the VT50 more dynamic range. Not to mention the VT50 has better color accuracy than the VT30.
post #1743 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

I'm leaning towards the 55" for a few factors. It's cheaper, easier to move around, and would fit better in a smaller space. Still need to go check it out. I know I had enough problems moving the 65VT30 to my basement and caring the thing and I know there were issues finding a vehicle to transport it, so the 55 would be more hassle free. And I also sometimes find the 65" too big, didn't think that was possible.

How often do you plan on moving it around??? It's amazing how small my 58" feels after being used to it. We just sold a house and have crammed in with some family while we shop for a new one and I kept the original box so moving the TV was a breeze, put it in the box and strapped it down in the back of the truck... np. That said, the hassle of moving a TV would be the last factor for me in deciding which size to get but I guess if you plan on moving it around frequently then YMMV.

At any rate once I decide between the Elite and VT50, if I go with the VT50 it will be 65" for sure. Size matters and it will also help suppress upgraditus.
post #1744 of 13486
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

How often do you plan on moving it around??? It's amazing how small my 58" feels after being used to it. We just sold a house and have crammed in with some family while we shop for a new one and I kept the original box so moving the TV was a breeze, put it in the box and strapped it down in the back of the truck... np. That said, the hassle of moving a TV would be the last factor for me in deciding which size to get but I guess if you plan on moving it around frequently then YMMV.

At any rate once I decide between the Elite and VT50, if I go with the VT50 it will be 65" for sure. Size matters and it will also help suppress upgraditus.

Honestly General Kenobi is echoing what I was saying and suppressing upgraditis is worth it.

Mark_b,

I have been there also where I was trying to justify the smaller set for various reasons over the big one. At the end of the day I realized it was mainly because I didn't want to spend the money and the other reasons I had really weren't valid (at least for me). I understand your situation and believe me I am battling coughing up a grand to upgrade from a 60" Kuro.

At the end of the day though, it's your choice. Having been there though, I think your making a big mistake not going for the 65" unless the money is a huge deal breaker. Cut back on eating out, buying movies, etc. for a few months. You can at least come up with a chunk of it right there. Just my two cents...
post #1745 of 13486
Money is an issue though. I am also in the process of buying a home (condo more then likely) so factor that in and the $1500 difference is huge. I looked at the prices in the US and it's easier to justify the difference there. If I lived in the US, between the offer I got for the VT30 and the price of the VT50, it would only cost me an extra $1100, not much of an issue. I'm in Canada though and going from 65 to 65, I have to put in $2000 to make up the total price (4,645.50 with 3 pairs of glasses). Compared to only having to put in $500 to go to the 55 (3188.50 with 3 pairs of glasses). US pricing is about $700 cheaper then Canadian pricing.
post #1746 of 13486
Go with the 65VT50 if you can afford it,it looks fabulous
post #1747 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

Money is an issue though. I am also in the process of buying a home (condo more then likely) so factor that in and the $1500 difference is huge. I looked at the prices in the US and it's easier to justify the difference there. If I lived in the US, between the offer I got for the VT30 and the price of the VT50, it would only cost me an extra $1100, not much of an issue. I'm in Canada though and going from 65 to 65, I have to put in $2000 to make up the total price (4,645.50 with 3 pairs of glasses). Compared to only having to put in $500 to go to the 55 (3188.50 with 3 pairs of glasses). US pricing is about $700 cheaper then Canadian pricing.

Sounds like you have enough going on and already have a nice 65VT30 to enjoy. The VT50 isn't going anywhere so were I in your shoes I'd wait, get the condo purchase handled and worry about the VT50 when you are in escrow. Sell the VT30 before you move and buy the VT50 when you get the keys. Just my 2¢
post #1748 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

Money is an issue though. I am also in the process of buying a home (condo more then likely) so factor that in and the $1500 difference is huge. I looked at the prices in the US and it's easier to justify the difference there. If I lived in the US, between the offer I got for the VT30 and the price of the VT50, it would only cost me an extra $1100, not much of an issue. I'm in Canada though and going from 65 to 65, I have to put in $2000 to make up the total price (4,645.50 with 3 pairs of glasses). Compared to only having to put in $500 to go to the 55 (3188.50 with 3 pairs of glasses). US pricing is about $700 cheaper then Canadian pricing.

I understand. Well if money is truly an issue, then go with the 55". I forgot about 3D glasses. Honestly I doubt I will use 3D on the set. Not a fan at all of the technology regardless. I hunt down the 2D showings of movies for the most part. I might buy one pair of glasses eventually but I hate the thought of having to replace the 30+ kids blu-ray movies I have with 3D versions. 3D also tends to give me a slight headache (my son has the same issue).
post #1749 of 13486
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Sounds like you have enough going on and already have a nice 65VT30 to enjoy. The VT50 isn't going anywhere so were I in your shoes I'd wait, get the condo purchase handled and worry about the VT50 when you are in escrow. Sell the VT30 before you move and buy the VT50 when you get the keys. Just my 2¢

Actually that's an even better idea. I keep forgetting you already have a 65". Handle the house thing and revisit the purchase. If you need to sell your VT30now though (if you have a sale pending) and can do without the set for awhile, do it. Do you have a smaller tv you can use for the time being? If so, unload the VT30, use the smaller set, and purchase the 65" VT50 in a couple of months. That way you truly avoid buyer's remorse regarding the size.
post #1750 of 13486
Here are a couple of pics of my 65VT50
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post #1751 of 13486
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post


I understand. Well if money is truly an issue, then go with the 55". I forgot about 3D glasses. Honestly I doubt I will use 3D on the set. Not a fan at all of the technology regardless. I hunt down the 2D showings of movies for the most part. I might buy one pair of glasses eventually but I hate the thought of having to replace the 30+ kids blu-ray movies I have with 3D versions. 3D also tends to give me a slight headache (my son has the same issue).

Are you basing your 3d experience on the movie theater? Because I know I got a headache the one or two times I saw it in the theater but have never had an issue on my vt50.
post #1752 of 13486
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Originally Posted by CaTaSTrOphiK View Post

Are you basing your 3d experience on the movie theater? Because I know I got a headache the one or two times I saw it in the theater but have never had an issue on my vt50.

Actually yes I am. I am not opposed to giving it a try but I also don't want to repurchase a ton of movies just to get the 3D version.
post #1753 of 13486
Just get the 3D version of some of the new movies as they are being made. I sure hope they drop the price of them soon. It seems $35 is the price of a new one currently. It's only about $5 more than the new 2D versions are.

I balk at paying $30. I usually wait for them to go on sale for $15 to $20.
post #1754 of 13486
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Originally Posted by hfc23 View Post

Hi are the 65vt50 panels made in Japan or......?

All Panasonic panels are made in Japan. I'm fairly sure none (or very few) of the TVs are assembled there however.
post #1755 of 13486
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

All Panasonic panels are made in Japan. I'm fairly sure none (or very few) of the TVs are assembled there however.

I've heard parts are from Japan and assembled in Mexico.
post #1756 of 13486
Do the dlna on the tv support 96hz i seem only to be able to get 60 hz to work. what is the best software for dlna?

Trying to get it to work but can't seem to get it any info how to do it.

Thanks
post #1757 of 13486
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly
Our guts are on the same page

Kuro is still king, but the king is on his death bed listening to the Pannadragon crushing the castle gates.

The pannadragon wont last a min. once the OLED-beast is unleashed...
post #1758 of 13486
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The panadragon wont last a min. once the OLED-beast is unleashed...

Yeah OLED will be the shiznit. Almost makes me feel bad for the poor lil Panadragon. By the time they are affordable, the Kuro will be something that kids learn about from their elders around a campfire.
post #1759 of 13486
^^^ I question that, as the pricing will be very high for a small TV. Rumors have a 55" in the same price range of a 90" sharp. Just in case you are wondering the 90" is >> 16:9 (1.78:1) native mode [167.3% larger]. The 55" OLED is a little TV for a whole lot of price.
post #1760 of 13486
Just got back from yet another Best Buy demo session and wtf is going on in that store!? They replaced the 65VT50 with some goofball Sammy SOE special right in the front with all the theater seats and put the VT50 back in the corner w/ no bluray player connected to it. The 55VT50 was still in the dark room but it has been playing Transformers 3 so much it is completely fawked with black bar IR.

The 70" Elite was still in the same spot but damned if I can get the greens to look right on that thing, otherwise I love it but I'm having a helluva time getting the colors to look right and do a proper a/b with the VT50.
post #1761 of 13486
hey all you plasma gurus,

I am an LED local dimming guy, eyeing plasmas for a while. I visited my local BB yesterday to see the big boss, 65VT50.

I have to say it is the first plasma that has pleased me so for. I liked to run it on THX bright room setting, since I like those popping whites giving it better depth. TV was running Thor bluray.

so if I run it on THX bright room,
Does it mean I am more vulnerable to IR?
and Does it mean the TV reaches half life faster?
what a guy like me should do if he likes BOTH THX and motion settings? when I select THX, I cannot touch motion controls
post #1762 of 13486
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Originally Posted by rx74ray View Post

hey all you plasma gurus,

I am an LED local dimming guy, eyeing plasmas for a while. I visited my local BB yesterday to see the big boss, 65VT50.

I have to say it is the first plasma that has pleased me so for. I liked to run it on THX bright room setting, since I like those popping whites giving it better depth. TV was running Thor bluray.

so if I run it on THX bright room,
Does it mean I am more vulnerable to IR?
and Does it mean the TV reaches half life faster?
what a guy like me should do if he likes BOTH THX and motion settings? when I select THX, I cannot touch motion controls

First off, you can get the pic to look just like THX bright room using the custom mode. In this mode you get all the extra controls. I personally like setting the motion smoother to "Weak" for certain content. It adds a bit of pizazz to DVD's but I dont use it for Bluray material.

Also, running in torch mode could make IR happen a bit easier but I really would not worry about it one bit. Maybe just hold off on all-out torch mode for the first couple hundred hours.

As far as longevity, you will have had a couple new TVs before you would wear this one out regardless of how bright you run it.

I am a torch guy myself to an extent and I feel like I get plenty of brightness out of this puppy.

But to be completely honest with you, I would always look for the brightest mode like you are, but I slowly started to find myself going to more subtle modes. After toggling back and forth I would start to understand that brighter is definately not better. I run in custom mode with about 80 for contrast and 52-54 for brightness and am VERY HAPPY.

And your friends and Fam will really be able to enjoy the picture quality even though they dont get to sit in the sweet spot. Gotta love no restrictions to viewing angles!

Other than full screen whites (which are seldom) you will be quite happy and prolly swear off LCD for life.

Good luck
post #1763 of 13486
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Here are a couple of pics of my 65VT50

Yes people do actually look at the pics. We just decide not to comment for whatever reason. So I will go ahead and break the news to you. Your setup looks like total crap. Just kidding man. It looks excellent. Nice man cave vibe goin on. Thumbs up
post #1764 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

^^^ I question that, as the pricing will be very high for a small TV. Rumors have a 55" in the same price range of a 90" sharp. Just in case you are wondering the 90" is >> 16:9 (1.78:1) native mode [167.3% larger]. The 55" OLED is a little TV for a whole lot of price.

The speed at which the new tech advances should be interesting to watch. I remember when VCRs where $800+ then when dvd players came out the prices dropped a lot faster for DVD players from the time of their initial launch. Hell my first blue ray player was 399 then less than 2 years it was under 150. Same with microwave ovens.

I think the timespan between the initial release price and going full mainstream might surprise you... Good ol' panadragon might have some years left. Lol!
post #1765 of 13486
I just want to ask if the NA vt50s have the luminance cap in the Pro pic settings.
Also, does anyone know the NA vt50 peak white output measurements compared to the GT50 before calibration?
post #1766 of 13486
Hey guys, one issue I've been forgetting to bring up but it's annoying the hell out of me.

The TV is a bit tilted on its stand, I wasn't here when it was installed/setup Does anyone know if this is easy to adjust/fix? Or am I screwed? It's not enough to return the set but it is enough it bothers me a bit. I would guess the difference is probably 1 to 1.5mm between the two corners. Eventually it'll be in a theater room or wall mounted so its not the end of the world if I can't adjust it...
post #1767 of 13486
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Hey guys, one issue I've been forgetting to bring up but it's annoying the hell out of me.

The TV is a bit tilted on its stand, I wasn't here when it was installed/setup Does anyone know if this is easy to adjust/fix? Or am I screwed? It's not enough to return the set but it is enough it bothers me a bit. I would guess the difference is probably 1 to 1.5mm between the two corners. Eventually it'll be in a theater room or wall mounted so its not the end of the world if I can't adjust it...

The one at my job seems fine mine seemed good when I had it on there for the half day it was there. It probably just didn't click into place on one side.
post #1768 of 13486
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Hey guys, one issue I've been forgetting to bring up but it's annoying the hell out of me.

The TV is a bit tilted on its stand, I wasn't here when it was installed/setup Does anyone know if this is easy to adjust/fix? Or am I screwed? It's not enough to return the set but it is enough it bothers me a bit. I would guess the difference is probably 1 to 1.5mm between the two corners. Eventually it'll be in a theater room or wall mounted so its not the end of the world if I can't adjust it...

I posted the same issue with my new set (60GT50) in the GT50 thread. Apparently quite a few users have the same issue, posted on these forums and others. Contact Panasonic. I did tonight and they're planning to send me a new pedestal and back-plate. Unfortunately there's not much you can do yourself. Good luck.
post #1769 of 13486
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Originally Posted by ATC7 View Post

I posted the same issue with my new set (60GT50) in the GT50 thread. Apparently quite a few users have the same issue, posted on these forums and others. Contact Panasonic. I did tonight and they're planning to send me a new pedestal and back-plate. Unfortunately there's not much you can do yourself. Good luck.

Ok, here's an idea that would likely work. As per the diagram below, there are 4 screws that attach the metal plate to the pedestal/neck combination. If you use an appropriately thin washer (ie. one of those very thin teflon or stainless washers) UNDER the metal plate at each of the 2 left-most screws, you could level out the metal plate and thereby the TV. It would be an invisible permanent fix, but involves a bit of work as you would need to detach the stand and reattach it once modified. The only trick would be to determine the appropriate thickness of the washers required to correct the level.
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post #1770 of 13486
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Originally Posted by DrRx View Post

Ok, here's an idea that would likely work. As per the diagram below, there are 4 screws that attach the metal plate to the pedestal/neck combination. If you use an appropriately thin washer (ie. one of those very thin teflon or stainless washers) UNDER the metal plate at each of the 2 left-most screws, you could level out the metal plate and thereby the TV. It would be an invisible permanent fix, but involves a bit of work as you would need to detach the stand and reattach it once modified. The only trick would be to determine the appropriate thickness of the washers required to correct the level.

Interesting idea. Yeah that might actually work. Although I might as well wait now and see if the pedestal and back-plate that Panasonic will send me fixes it. But your suggestion is certainly a good and permanent fix, and it's elegant to boot, unlike my current cork setup from the other thread.
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