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post #1861 of 13470
The 65 VT50 is everything I'd hoped it would be -- just fantastic. One weird quirk though, is that movies on Vudu HDX coming from my Oppo Blu-Ray look AMAZING, whereas the same Vudu movies streamed at HDX through the Vudu Viera app look... OK. It appears that the app has only a few picture settings, such as Cinema, but when it's coming through the Blu-Ray's HDMI, I can switch to THX, which seems to be the best of the out-of-the box settings. Is there any workaround? Being the lazy slob that I am, I'd prefer to turn on one device if I don't have to deal with a second, but I gots to have the best PQ. Any wisdom, oh wise ones?
post #1862 of 13470
There is a firmware update. I'm not sure what is updated though
post #1863 of 13470
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

There is a firmware update. I'm not sure what is updated though

Just tweaks.
post #1864 of 13470
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

Perfect fit!

Nah... you still have some room for a 70-75" upgrade in the future.
post #1865 of 13470
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Originally Posted by curiousdude View Post

Just tweaks.

No CMS Luminance fix then?
post #1866 of 13470
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post


Nah... you still have some room for a 70-75" upgrade in the future.

My next update will be an OLED. Hopefully back to Sony (or perhaps PanaSony the way things are going). It'll be whenever I can get an extra 5" for a thousand less... Estimate that'll be in about 4 to 6 years.
post #1867 of 13470
Guys how many of you facing the vertical line dse effect on the panel? Mostly appears in soccer/football games where green field is shown and the camera movement is horizontal....
post #1868 of 13470
Anyone care to elaborate on this update? What improvements if any have been introduced?
post #1869 of 13470
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Full field white can look green on the VT50 due to how the ABL circuit works. Beyond that, whites should look white. What reference material are you using to judge flesh tones?

Would this show up on bright scenes such as hockey games, snow scenes, , etc.?
post #1870 of 13470
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Originally Posted by alston80 View Post

I watched river monsters in HD. That show has many close ups. Also tried Thor, the dark knight. Im not sure if it's the tv or the i1display meter I have. All I know is the results got worse everyone I reset the settings and tried again. I'm probably just not good at this art form. If I do get another VT50 I'll get either you or Chad to calibrate.

It's probably the i1Display color sensor as they have a known color shift as the unit ages.
post #1871 of 13470
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Are yoo reffering to Pioneer? If so, your "spidey senses" are flawed. They are and never were a "cost no object" company. On top of that, they are sill in business... just not doing PDPs.

You are confusing them with Runco, B&O and the likes. Pioneer's issues had many faces. One foolish one was their business practice of attempting to sell a Mercedes class product (their PDPs) on a Kia class car lot (BB).

You sir are correct... I got over-zealous with my remarks...

I was just trying to make a point that there are possibly other factors at work (i.e. $$ the bottom line).

When your entry level TV is at least 6k, you're dealing with a niche market for the most part, and already backed yourself into a corner. Whether it's BB or some high end retail store shouldn't matter.

When I was in the market for a Meridian or Esoteric CD player I would have been more than happy if BB sold it due to the proximity of the store.
post #1872 of 13470
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Originally Posted by polakis View Post
Guys i bought the 55VT50 here in Athens Greece!
The tv is perfect but i dont know much about plasma.
You need to PM ConnecTEDDD ASAP. He is a calibrator AND he lives in Athens. He can help you. Ted is a friend and I'm sure he'd love to talk television with you.

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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post
Whaaaat..? Can't watch my new Panny for 4 days?
Watch it. Everyone is soooo anal about this stuff.

I received a 65VT50 yesterday afternoon. Late last night and again early this morning I did some preliminary calibrating for a couple hours. It was a bit squirrely on the low end but it might have been my meter. Other than that, things fall into place as expected and given some iteration the numbers can be reduced.

It looks like I might be better off calibrating ISF Night at 75% saturation/100% luminance instead of 100% saturation/75% luminance due to some of the lower saturations being slightly high although I don't see anything wrong in reference material.

Although I have a DVDO iScan Duo video processor feeding the display I'm not using it for processing yet. Due to the inoperative VT50 luminance controls it might do wonders - next time.

 

CalibrationSummaryDetailedISFDayJune1ReducedSize.pdf 484.845703125k . file

 

AdvancedColorManagementReport ISF Day June 1ReducedSize.pdf 370.4287109375k . file

 

CalibrationSummaryDetailedISFNightMay31ReducedSize.pdf 484.744140625k . file

 

AdvancedColorManagementReportMay31ISFNightReducedSize.pdf 361.806640625k . file
post #1873 of 13470
Looks good. You should be able to get the lower is more linear once you play with it a bit more.
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

You need to PM ConnecTEDDD ASAP. He is a calibrator AND he lives in Athens. He can help you. Ted is a friend and I'm sure he'd love to talk television with you.



Watch it. Everyone is soooo anal about this stuff.

I received a 65VT50 yesterday afternoon. Late last night and again early this morning I did some preliminary calibrating for a couple hours. It was a bit squirrely on the low end but it might have been my meter. Other than that, things fall into place as expected and given some iteration the numbers can be reduced.

It looks like I might be better off calibrating ISF Night at 75% saturation/100% luminance instead of 100% saturation/75% luminance due to some of the lower saturations being slightly high although I don't see anything wrong in reference material.

Although I have a DVDO iScan Duo video processor feeding the display I'm not using it for processing yet. Due to the inoperative VT50 luminance controls it might do wonders - next time.
post #1874 of 13470
Hey guys. I have been reading this thread since it started. I got my 55VT50 last Wednesday and so far I am quit impressed. I do have a question for you owners though. I am impressed by the black levels, but not as much as I thought that I would be. The black levels at the Magnolia showroom seems like it is darker than mine. The Magnolia display has not been calibrated, nor has mine yet. Basically, this is my question. When you guys watch a bluray in 96hz, is it quit easy for the widescreen black bars on the top and bottom of the screen to "blend" into the frame of the TV? Basically not being able to tell the difference of the black of the frame of the TV and the black bars of the movie. I feel like the Magnolia display, you could hardly tell the difference, but at home, I am constantly noticing the black bars being quit noticeable against the frame of the TV. Both TVs are running in THX Cinema. Does anyone have any feedback for me? If it is a very bright scene, I do feel like the blacks do bleed into the frame, but most dark scenes, the difference is quit noticeable. Any feedback will be most helpful.
post #1875 of 13470
This TV is going back to BB because of what may be a panel problem. I'm not sure to be honest but what should be a solid black background (during credit rolls for example) has wiggly distortion and the black is not a solid color. Anyway I'll have another set tomorrow to compare.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/6979063...7629942376292/

Pictures taken with cell phone.
post #1876 of 13470
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Originally Posted by Dysmae View Post

Hey guys. I have been reading this thread since it started. I got my 55VT50 last Wednesday and so far I am quit impressed. I do have a question for you owners though. I am impressed by the black levels, but not as much as I thought that I would be. The black levels at the Magnolia showroom seems like it is darker than mine. The Magnolia display has not been calibrated, nor has mine yet. Basically, this is my question. When you guys watch a bluray in 96hz, is it quit easy for the widescreen black bars on the top and bottom of the screen to "blend" into the frame of the TV? Basically not being able to tell the difference of the black of the frame of the TV and the black bars of the movie. I feel like the Magnolia display, you could hardly tell the difference, but at home, I am constantly noticing the black bars being quit noticeable against the frame of the TV. Both TVs are running in THX Cinema. Does anyone have any feedback for me? If it is a very bright scene, I do feel like the blacks do bleed into the frame, but most dark scenes, the difference is quit noticeable. Any feedback will be most helpful.

I have never noticed the black bars being as dark as the bezel either. It may be that the brightness (or something) is turned way down in the store to make the blacks appear darker, I don't know. It is much, much darker that what I'm used to, and I'm very happy for that. I've had my 65 inch VT50 for just over a week and it won't be calibrated for another 3 weeks.

I watched Thor in 3D last night in THX 3D Cinema. It was in the evening, as the sun was going down in a room with a skylight and some blackout curtains. It was almost too dark to watch with the glasses on. I'm hoping a 3D calibration would lighten this up a bit. I watched Puss In Boots and Under the Sea in 3D and they were not too dark.
post #1877 of 13470
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Originally Posted by CatBrat View Post

I have never noticed the black bars being as dark as the bezel either. It may be that the brightness (or something) is turned way down in the store to make the blacks appear darker, I don't know. It is much, much darker that what I'm used to, and I'm very happy for that. I've had my 65 inch VT50 for just over a week and it won't be calibrated for another 3 weeks.

I watched Thor in 3D last night in THX 3D Cinema. It was in the evening, as the sun was going down in a room with a skylight and some blackout curtains. It was almost too dark to watch with the glasses on. I'm hoping a 3D calibration would lighten this up a bit. I watched Puss In Boots and Under the Sea in 3D and they were not too dark.

As I posted before, the promise of a brighter 3D experience was a big draw to the VT50. I've seen evidence of the brightness and clearer picture already. I'm sure that after a professional calibration that the VT50 will have the brightness needed to get the best out of 3D.
post #1878 of 13470
For the record, it's now been 18 days since I called in my dead VT50 and Panasonic still have not picked up my TV. I have been assured that the order has been sent to their shipping company for what that's worth. In all likelihood they will not pick this tv up until next tuesday now, which would make it a full 3 weeks from phone call to pick up. And then it still has to ship to Texas, be checked out and then await whatever ludicrous delays await before I get a single dime back.

I am considering never buying another Panasonic product ever again in my life, I just can't believe that it's just EPP that is this dysfunctional and not their whole company.
post #1879 of 13470
d nice are you now getting rid of the kuros seeing as panasonic have upped there game!!!
post #1880 of 13470
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Originally Posted by craigyboy View Post

d nice are you now getting rid of the kuros seeing as panasonic have upped there game!!!

Hell no. The VT50 is not the equal of anything in my house besides the 4280HD I own.
post #1881 of 13470
@D-Nice , The overall cailibrators results from the VE shootout showed a tie between the VT50 and the E8000.

What are the main reasoning behind this? Are the two panels that close.
post #1882 of 13470
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Hell no. The VT50 is not the equal of anything in my house besides the 4280HD I own.

thanks, will keep the krp for now then
post #1883 of 13470
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Hell no. The VT50 is not the equal of anything in my house besides the 4280HD I own.

Just out of curiosity Mr. D, how often do you conduct a full calibration on your TVs at home?
post #1884 of 13470
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

For the record, it's now been 18 days since I called in my dead VT50 and Panasonic still have not picked up my TV. I have been assured that the order has been sent to their shipping company for what that's worth. In all likelihood they will not pick this tv up until next tuesday now, which would make it a full 3 weeks from phone call to pick up. And then it still has to ship to Texas, be checked out and then await whatever ludicrous delays await before I get a single dime back.

I am considering never buying another Panasonic product ever again in my life, I just can't believe that it's just EPP that is this dysfunctional and not their whole company.

Maybe just purchase it from elsewhere next time. I'm returning mine to BB. I called them Wednesday and they will be out tomorrow (Saturday) to pick it up and swap it out. I would be upset if I was in your situation also. The last thing you want to be doing with a new set after your money has changed hands is messing around with a situation like that. I feel your pain.
post #1885 of 13470
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

Just out of curiosity Mr. D, how often do you conduct a full calibration on your TVs at home?

In general, every six months.
post #1886 of 13470
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Originally Posted by craigyboy View Post

thanks, will keep the krp for now then

post #1887 of 13470
The E8000 is a very good display. That's all the reasoning there is
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Originally Posted by airgon74 View Post

What are the main reasoning behind this? Are the two panels that close.
post #1888 of 13470
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

In general, every six months.

How many viewing hours?
post #1889 of 13470
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

How many viewing hours?

I dont keep up with that. I just check my displays every six months for drift.
post #1890 of 13470
Just ordered the 55vt50. Will be my first tv upgrade since getting a tx-42px80 4 years ago. My tv upgrades seem to coincide with the european championships football.
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