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post #2491 of 12284
6/13/12 at 11:54am
Well, I have no problems matching a VT50 in oversharpening
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I could never get the Kuro to show the same detail no matter how much I played with the DRE controls. The picture was nice, but a bit more detail would have made it really shine.
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post #2492 of 12284
6/13/12 at 11:55am
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So for a steady image in mid-high APL the VT50 stands firm against the Kuro in terms of color accuracy and sense of depth and pop?
Stands firm with, not against smile.gif
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post #2493 of 12284
6/13/12 at 12:17pm
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Is the PS3 still limited to DTS-MA during 3D playback, or can it do Dolby TrueHD now as well?

I thought when viewing 3D, the PS3 could only play the down-mixed versions of lossless audio formats (DTS HD-MA --> DTS 5.1, Dolby TruHD -->Dolby Digital 5.1), but I could be wrong.
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post #2494 of 12284
6/13/12 at 12:43pm
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After alot of hassle with my dealer I have received my VT50 today. I do suspect that they gave me the store model instead of a new one. How do I check the hours the tv has been on on the new VT50 EU models? I tried the volume down plus 3 times info on remote but that only gives me a self check. Anybody able to help me out? Will post first experiences soon. Thanks in advance.

Do that on the display not on the remote and you should be fine.
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post #2495 of 12284
6/13/12 at 12:54pm
Has anyone experienced any problems with Slim model PS3s (CECH-2001A)?? I'm getting a black screen when connected directly to the VT50. Through my Onkyo the video outputs just fine. I've already tried two HDMI cables and unplugged the unit for several minutes... still no go. Any Ideas??
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post #2496 of 12284
6/13/12 at 1:52pm
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Has anyone experienced any problems with Slim model PS3s (CECH-2001A)?? I'm getting a black screen when connected directly to the VT50. Through my Onkyo the video outputs just fine. I've already tried two HDMI cables and unplugged the unit for several minutes... still no go. Any Ideas??

No problems with mine. Sounds like a handshake issue--did you try turning the devices on in a different order?
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post #2497 of 12284
6/13/12 at 2:12pm
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Has anyone experienced any problems with Slim model PS3s (CECH-2001A)?? I'm getting a black screen when connected directly to the VT50. Through my Onkyo the video outputs just fine. I've already tried two HDMI cables and unplugged the unit for several minutes... still no go. Any Ideas??

That makes no sense. If it works through the Onkyo then it should work directly. Are you using 1.4a HDMI? Something strange goin on. Verify that you are setup properly on the PS3. Other than that, dont know.
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post #2498 of 12284
6/13/12 at 2:28pm
I am starting to lean more towards the vt50 but have a question that I previously asked but was unanswered. I am aware that after 2000 hours the black levels will rise slightly and stabilize. Will the black levels return to the out of box level of .004 or will it settle closer to the 100 hour mark of .002?
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post #2499 of 12284
6/13/12 at 2:38pm
After lurking on this thread for a couple of weeks i finnaly got my 65 inch VT50. Very impressed by the picture of this beast.

However, there is some minor troubles. I hear a quite distinct buzzing sound in a very bright picture or very gray picture, this doesnt happen very often but can be a bit annoying. Forexample, I tried the Facebook app and the app is very bright with no background sound so the buzzing is very clear. The same when you start the youtube app, there is a gray screen shown for about 2 seconds, also there is a very crisp buzzing emitting from the tv. The same thing happens when I browse my htpc in XBMC through my movies, some album art will emitt buzzing. This is quite a minor problem, that is not that noticeable when you actually watch a movie or some tv show.

Also, in the manual i could see that you could swivel the stand/tv 10 degrees but mine is not moveable? I tried to move it before i mounted the TV but it was rock tight. I thought maybe you had to mount the TV to swivel it but it's still really tight and I'm afraid of breaking it. Is it even possible to swivel?
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post #2500 of 12284
6/13/12 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Unfortunately the VT50 in the dim room was totally fawked with IR, as long as the VT50 is no worse at mitigating IR than my current 58PZ850 I see no need to question my purchase.
There is no way that you are clever enough to generate as much IR as a typical BB show room. It's almost like BB and Fry's are dedicated to removing plasma from the market before they go belly up themselves. wink.gif
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post #2501 of 12284
6/13/12 at 2:53pm
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After lurking on this thread for a couple of weeks i finnaly got my 65 inch VT50. Very impressed by the picture of this beast.
However, there is some minor troubles. I hear a quite distinct buzzing sound in a very bright picture or very gray picture, this doesnt happen very often but can be a bit annoying. Forexample, I tried the Facebook app and the app is very bright with no background sound so the buzzing is very clear. The same when you start the youtube app, there is a gray screen shown for about 2 seconds, also there is a very crisp buzzing emitting from the tv. The same thing happens when I browse my htpc in XBMC through my movies, some album art will emitt buzzing. This is quite a minor problem, that is not that noticeable when you actually watch a movie or some tv show.
Also, in the manual i could see that you could swivel the stand/tv 10 degrees but mine is not moveable? I tried to move it before i mounted the TV but it was rock tight. I thought maybe you had to mount the TV to swivel it but it's still really tight and I'm afraid of breaking it. Is it even possible to swivel?

1.You should not hear buzzing more than a few feet away from the screen.
2. The larger sets (60"/65") do not swivel.
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post #2502 of 12284
6/13/12 at 3:12pm
Well, She's here. No buzzing, no dead/stuck pixels, no vertical line on the right hand side, no issues with screen uniformity. Just a beautiful display. "fingers crossed".
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post #2503 of 12284
6/13/12 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Stands firm with, not against smile.gif

Just got a chance to look at the vt50 and Sharp elite at Best Buy in decent lighting. BB has an open box 60" Sharp Elite for $600 more (maybe can knock that down). Is the Elite worth it at that point or are the motion/angle issues still too much of a concern?
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6/13/12 at 3:38pm
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There is no way that you are clever enough to generate as much IR as a typical BB show room. It's almost like BB and Fry's are dedicated to removing plasma from the market before they go belly up themselves. wink.gif
No kidding, you'd think just from a "sell more TV's" perspective they would put that damn movies on repeat!

I'm all set to receive my 65VT50 Monday between 12-3. I'll head home @ 11:30 and box up my 58PZ850 and be ready for them to bring it in unbox it and give me a few to look it over and power it on. I'll probably stay away from xbox for a week or so and just watch mixed content, maybe run the slides while I sleep and have it calibrated in a month or two. Now I have a great excuse to order Avengers in 3D! Happy Father's Day to me!tongue.gif
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post #2505 of 12284
6/13/12 at 4:47pm
Looks like a bunch of new and happy members joining the club. So welcome to the club. biggrin.gif
I am hearing a bunch of buzzing concerns. I guess this is a bigger issue than I thought. I never hear mine buzz unless I am looking at slides, which you are definately going to hear buzzing in that case because there is zero sound at that point. Otherwise I always have my home theater on and it puts out some pretty serious sound even at low levels. If you are the type that has volume very low often, I can see where this can be annoying. But I also imagine that some sets may buzz more than others as a few people who have swapped out their sets have reported some improvement on occasion.
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6/13/12 at 5:07pm
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Stands firm with, not against smile.gif
Is the Elite worth it at that point or are the motion/angle issues still too much of a concern?
Doesn't that depend on your expectations?
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post #2507 of 12284
6/13/12 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

I'll probably stay away from xbox for a week or so and just watch mixed content, maybe run the slides while I sleep and have it calibrated in a month or two. Now I have a great excuse to order Avengers in 3D! Happy Father's Day to me!tongue.gif
I did that for 500 hours non-stop, then I forgot about it for the next four years. biggrin.gif
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post #2508 of 12284
6/13/12 at 5:26pm
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Doesn't that depend on your expectations?

It definitely does. What I can't figure out is how bad the motion issues are. My couch is dead on with the TV so I don't think that is much of an issue. But I love the smooth natural motion of my kuros.
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6/13/12 at 5:58pm
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It definitely does. What I can't figure out is how bad the motion issues are. My couch is dead on with the TV so I don't think that is much of an issue. But I love the smooth natural motion of my kuros.
So is ours unless we have company. Then the seating is in an ark. eek.gif

We have a 60" Kuro and we've been slowly watching the entire "Midsomer Murders" series. When the British TV cameras pan it's like the resolution is cut by about 75%. The pan is smooth, but the detail is totally gone. Of course there isn't all that much to begin with.

No one here ever complains. It's like the wagon wheel reverse motion that no one ever mentions. I have no idea how that applies to you, except that from the very beginning of "moving pictures" we've compensated.

Just don't fall into the "I paid x amount for this TV and it shouldn't do whatever!" trap.
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6/13/12 at 6:02pm
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Just got a chance to look at the vt50 and Sharp elite at Best Buy in decent lighting. BB has an open box 60" Sharp Elite for $600 more (maybe can knock that down). Is the Elite worth it at that point or are the motion/angle issues still too much of a concern?

Given the much wider viewing angle and reference color of the VT50, I just don't see a good reason to go LCD.
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post #2511 of 12284
6/13/12 at 7:55pm
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I am starting to lean more towards the vt50 but have a question that I previously asked but was unanswered. I am aware that after 2000 hours the black levels will rise slightly and stabilize. Will the black levels return to the out of box level of .004 or will it settle closer to the 100 hour mark of .002?

I didn't realize the OOTB black level was 0.004? I thought it was .002? Maybe I missed that. Avjunkie at HDJ said they would go back up to around their original level around the 2000 hour mark. But I could have sworn the original level was .002.
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6/13/12 at 8:01pm
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So is ours unless we have company. Then the seating is in an ark. eek.gif
We have a 60" Kuro and we've been slowly watching the entire "Midsomer Murders" series. When the British TV cameras pan it's like the resolution is cut by about 75%. The pan is smooth, but the detail is totally gone. Of course there isn't all that much to begin with.
No one here ever complains. It's like the wagon wheel reverse motion that no one ever mentions. I have no idea how that applies to you, except that from the very beginning of "moving pictures" we've compensated.
Just don't fall into the "I paid x amount for this TV and it shouldn't do whatever!" trap.

Yea I am so unsure. Things that are important to me are in order:

1. Black Level (inky blacks during mid-high level apl and blacks that blend into the bezel)
2. Color Accuracy
3. Motion performance
4. Viewing Angle

Price is a factor of course but I will fork out extra if it is worth it.

I guess what would be good to know is how the Sharp Elite stacks up against Kuros. I now know how the VT50 stacks up
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post #2513 of 12284
6/13/12 at 8:03pm
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I didn't realize the OOTB black level was 0.004? I thought it was .002? Maybe I missed that. Avjunkie at HDJ said they would go back up to around their original level around the 2000 hour mark. But I could have sworn the original level was .002.

I believe the VT50 is 0.0025 and the ST50 is 0.004
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post #2514 of 12284
6/13/12 at 8:09pm
My 55" arrived today and it does not buzz at all. Also, chapter 19 of Collateral looks better than it did on the GT50, but there is still some dithering and DSE but not what I would call a real problem.
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6/13/12 at 8:24pm
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I didn't realize the OOTB black level was 0.004? I thought it was .002? Maybe I missed that. Avjunkie at HDJ said they would go back up to around their original level around the 2000 hour mark. But I could have sworn the original level was .002.
Hmm I may be wrong I though I had read it was around there but I do not know for sure. Can someone confirn what the OOTB black level is on the 65vt50?
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6/13/12 at 8:35pm
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Is the Elite worth it at that point or are the motion/angle issues still too much of a concern?
The poor color tracking of the Sharp Elite is enough to completely change the tone/mood of movies. I do not recommend that display to anyone.
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post #2517 of 12284
6/13/12 at 8:38pm
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Yea I am so unsure. Things that are important to me are in order:
1. Black Level (inky blacks during mid-high level apl and blacks that blend into the bezel)
2. Color Accuracy
3. Motion performance
4. Viewing Angle
Price is a factor of course but I will fork out extra if it is worth it.
I guess what would be good to know is how the Sharp Elite stacks up against Kuros. I now know how the VT50 stacks up
vs a Kuro... it only matches #1.
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post #2518 of 12284
6/13/12 at 8:39pm
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The poor color tracking of the Sharp Elite is enough to completely change the tone/mood of movies. I do not recommend that display to anyone.

I guess my decision has been made. Thanks D-Nice
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post #2519 of 12284
6/13/12 at 8:40pm
Just mounted the 65" VT50 in the new house. Wiring it all up to a new Onkyo TX-NR818 and some Def Techs tomorrow. Have to add some vents to the right cabinet and mount 3 speakers (2 rears and 1 center). Should be a long but fun day.
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6/13/12 at 8:58pm
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

vs a Kuro... it only matches #1.

Given that I will still have a 500m in my bedroom, I can always get my Kuro fix at night. 65VT50 sounds like the right choice for me
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