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post #2551 of 12501
6/14/12 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

anthony......simple, give them your old set and hook up the game console to that one. You were getting rid of it anyway..

I'll second that. It's what I was going to suggest also. Just put it in one of the kid's rooms, or some other out of the main area spot.

Another thing to think about is the sleep timer maybe? If only there was a way to make the TV turn itself off after, say 2 hours, and it's always set this way when it's turned on automatically.

Since, I've never used a sleep timer, I don't know if that is possible.

"Fist time the TV is left on overnight, is the last time you'll be playing games on it.". Some kids are just too stubborn for this to work, though. Give them a year, without games, after the first offense, then see if this works.
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6/14/12 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

(Rogo congrats!)
I'm hoping a current 65VT50 owner or owners with a similar set up and usage situation as mine can talk me off the fence. I am finally more or less ready to pull the trigger on a large set.
A few things:
-I love the 70" Elite but can't justify the price. I also love the 65 VT50.
-I've seen way too many issues with clouding in the various cheaper Sharp 70" LCDs to take a chance that I get a perfect one.
-The set will be in a room with a fair number of windows but we don't do all that much day time viewing, and when we do it tends to be at times of days when there's no direct sunlight shining onto the location of the tv.
-Primary sources are awful Cablevision stb with graphics heavy UI, and PS3 for BR and Netflix.
-Here's the potential kicker: I have two kids who love to forget to shut the system down when done. It's not unusual for me to find the set on in the morning, after having been left on overnight, with the PS3/Netflix interface or CV gui sitting there static on the screen. So yeah this could be 8-10 hours.
Obviously I'm worried about short term image retention and long term burn in. My kids are young yet, and so no matter how many times I remind them to always shut down, sometimes they simpy forget and I have to accept that!
Is there anyone out there living with a similar situation with direct experience with the impact in this set?
Many TIA.

Wow man, you need to pull the trigger one way or the other. If you are still on the fence after all of the guidance towards the vt50 that you have received here, then I don't know what will get you off the fence. You are in a forum of plasma folks. I don't know that you are going to get someone here to recommend the elite over the vt50 no matter how many different ways you pose the same question.

Get the vt50 and make it work. The ps3 has a Set Auto Off feature to turn off the console after a period of inactivity specified by you. There you go problem solved. Now go get your vt50 before you come up with something else. Self torture is never a good thing. Letting it go this long is even worse.

The Elite is for one lonely guy that sits in the sweet spot and doesn't mind poor color, poor off axis viewing, poor motion, and rich price.
Edited by TopperMcFly - 6/14/12 at 10:13am
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post #2553 of 12501
6/14/12 at 10:07am
I looked at the Elite and was only impressed by the size. That was all. For daily viewing, I'd take the 65VT50 anytime over the Elite.
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post #2554 of 12501
6/14/12 at 10:09am
I was on the fence also, just loved the picture on the VT50 but also really wanted a large tv.
I went with the Sharp 80le844 - size won

Once you get it home, and move away from direct comparisons, I usually don't find as many faults
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6/14/12 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by wlcohen View Post

I was on the fence also, just loved the picture on the VT50 but also really wanted a large tv.
I went with the Sharp 80le844 - size won
Once you get it home, and move away from direct comparisons, I usually don't find as many faults

Not to knock your purchase, but I gotta comment here. I had that exact set in my living room next to the vt30 I had. Without trying to sound like an a hole, I have to say that the picture on the sharp was so so so bad that I can hardly put it into words. Side by side the sharp was so noisy and pixelated, that it never made it onto my wall. I saw this set at BB and saw how bad it was but read happy reviews so I tried it anyway. I plugged in every set of settings I could find on the net including cnets and it still looked like a giant turd.

Size may have won but that's all that won dude. The sharp 80 IMO is the worst display that has ever been under my roof. I really hate being so brutal but had to be said. If you are happy that is really all that matters.

******* Correction. I had the 732U. I am not sure that there have been in ground breaking improvements between models, but wanted to be fair.
Edited by TopperMcFly - 6/14/12 at 10:52am
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6/14/12 at 10:36am
On a side note. Is anyone else having huge problems using the editor here since the upgrade? I can't click into a space that I specify to correct something. The cursor seems to have a mind of its own. That along with a ton of other editing issues. It has def been since the upgrade and was just wondering if its a personality conflict with my tablet or across the board.
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6/14/12 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

Has anyone been watching "The laughing devils" show? The interviews are with an all black background and I am still quite floored that with that much black on the screen, I can't see the screen meet the bezel to save my life. I will post a pic later.

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Looks great doesnt it? blacker than black
Topper, pics soon please. biggrin.gif
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post #2558 of 12501
6/14/12 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

Unfortunately not that simple. The existing set (40" LCD) is going into our bedroom, the only other place in the house we want a TV.
Said another way, the 65 would become the 'family set' no matter what.

Set up the power saver to turn the tv off after 3 hours of inactivity.
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post #2559 of 12501
6/14/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

Topper, pics soon please. biggrin.gif

OK OK lol. I should have done it last night but fell asleep. I will do it tonight. I have the last episode recorded. You will love it. biggrin.gif
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post #2560 of 12501
6/14/12 at 10:43am
Hey all. I just bought a Sharp 70" LED. I like it, but it's giving me headaches. I've never previously owned an LED, LCD, or Plasma. Is it possible that the LED technology is just too hard on my eyes? And, how do Plasma's compare. I feel like I'm getting some slight blurring or framing when things move quickly on my Sharp - like playing Halo or watching sports. I played Halo: Reach for 1 hour last night and had to go lay down because my headache was so bad.

Is it possible a plasma TV would be smoother and solve this problem? And, if so, is the 65 inch VT worth the investment? Thanks.


Nate
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6/14/12 at 10:45am
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Hey all. I just bought a Sharp 70" LED. I like it, but it's giving me headaches. I've never previously owned an LED, LCD, or Plasma. Is it possible that the LED technology is just too hard on my eyes? And, how do Plasma's compare. I feel like I'm getting some slight blurring or framing when things move quickly on my Sharp - like playing Halo or watching sports. I played Halo: Reach for 1 hour last night and had to go lay down because my headache was so bad.
Is it possible a plasma TV would be smoother and solve this problem? And, if so, is the 65 inch VT worth the investment? Thanks.
Nate

That is one of the big issues (motion) with the Sharp. A plasma, will be much smoother and natural
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6/14/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by NateDoggg View Post

Hey all. I just bought a Sharp 70" LED. I like it, but it's giving me headaches. I've never previously owned an LED, LCD, or Plasma. Is it possible that the LED technology is just too hard on my eyes? And, how do Plasma's compare. I feel like I'm getting some slight blurring or framing when things move quickly on my Sharp - like playing Halo or watching sports. I played Halo: Reach for 1 hour last night and had to go lay down because my headache was so bad.
Is it possible a plasma TV would be smoother and solve this problem? And, if so, is the 65 inch VT worth the investment? Thanks.
Nate

Like the 80" I just reference, the Sharps to my eyes look exactly as you are describing. Get rid of it if you can is my suggestion. A sharp LCD may be a fairly good vacation home TV that never really gets used and does well to fill an open space on a wall. If you bought the Sharp in the first place, you may be a great candidate for an ST50. VT50 is def better but the ST50 may suit you better if cost is a factor.
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post #2563 of 12501
6/14/12 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post

Hey guys, quick question and I'd like to thank in advance anyone who responds in detail...


I know this is a thread for the VT series, so I may get a slanted answer, but if money was not a MAJOR ISSUE do you guys really think the VT is worth paying another $700+ over the GT? Basically, does the VT series really have that much of a better PQ/feature set than the GT or ST series to justify throwing down that much more money?


If so, what exactly makes the VT series worth that much more? To me, the answer, if yes, MUST be PQ. I really don't care about features nearly as much as I do PQ.

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Great question, also interested in a response, I'm this close to getting a VT50.

I have owned both the 60GT50 and 55VT50, the pq difference is not worth $700 unless you keep hundreds stashed in your tissue box, since you've asked this question I have to assume you have a budget too. However, when comparing 55" to 55" the price difference is @$300, I'd say that price difference is worthy of serious consideration.

Moving from the 60GT50 to the 55VT50 saved me a few dollars, I do miss the 5" but since I'm sitting between 8-10ft away it's not as big a deal if I were sitting farther away. However, my heart misses the 60" but not enough to return the 55VT50. I have asked myself how much more I'm willing to pay to move to the 65" (mad at Panasonic for not offering a 60" VT) and I doubt that the price will narrow that much.

When the next tv dies, my next purchase will be 60" and new tech too. biggrin.gif

Edit: eek.gif Dang... I don't know how I ended up on a 3 week old page. Sorry, hopefully this will help someone else.
Edited by sheshechic - 6/14/12 at 11:27am
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6/14/12 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

For those that do not like how close the HDMI connections are to the outside edge of the set. Two of these will create a 180 for that shallow HDMI connection. They work perfectly. There are different orientations for these, so be sure to use the ones in this link or be very careful to order the right orientation. wink.gif
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PW3DKS/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

That's an option....
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Try the more flexible cables. I lost an HDMI port to one of Monoprices "better" cables. I now use the MediaBridge cables sold on Amazon. There is no difference in the picture or audio. They are much more flexible and have the ARC channel if needed.

... or that ...
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I use these 8 inch flexible cables from Monoprice:
Monoprice Port Saver Male to Female
They bend easily and I connect them to the much thicker in-wall cables from monoprice.
- Rich

... or that ....
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Originally Posted by Fuzzyduck View Post

I went to my local Panasonic retailer (purchased the TV from them) to have a listen to their display models, taking D-Nice slides to run through all the different colors. We tested the 50" first, we could hear some buzzing on the white slide but we had to be very close to the screen to hear it. Moving onto the 55", same test, the buzzing was very noticeable and more akin to what mine sounded like. Credit to the store they on the spot agreed to see if a replacement would be any better.
The test I always use at home to demonstrate the buzzing is the Wii home screen. With that even from 12 feet away with normal volume you can here the buzzing over the music.
Hoping the replacement is better......

I tend to be a scientist in this regard. I'm not spending hours and hundreds of dollars of Amazon's money to exchange a set because the other one might be quieter, maybe. I will have to do a test that resembles science. I guess that involves getting the slides on a USB and getting a sound reading off my panel that I can try to replicate elsewhere. Doing that in a Best Buy is going to be tricky, but it's worth a shot. I'm less likely to try Ryvore's approach of replacing the panel because it might be quieter (not that I'm not happy for him). I'm also not really sure this noise is a problem -- yet.
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Just got my replacement (because of buzzing and dead pixels)
The good news is I see dead pixels no more !! wink.gif The new panel is perfect in that regard.
On the issue of buzzing, the previous panel was really loud on anything bright like whites/greys or even the menu and the USB player.. This one is less noisy there is no doubt about that. I have to say though I still hear buzzing from a normal viewing distance, but I believe it is much more manageable.
One advice I got from someone and that I intend to follow, is to put a slim acoustic panel on the wall back to the TV. It should absorb close to all the buzzing sound emitted by the panel and reflected on the wall towards the front. I've even seen pictures of people using acoustic tiles from drop a ceiling and some paint to make them more discrete with the wall color or even black to try and blend with the TV.
Anyway I'm now at ease with my new superb TV wink.gif

It would be interesting to do this if one was actually wall mounting, perhaps. I'm not. I can't imagine that a small amount of acoustic absorption will matter even though technically I'm sure a fair amount of what I hear ends up being reflected off the wall behind the TV.
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Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

(Rogo congrats!)
I'm hoping a current 65VT50 owner or owners with a similar set up and usage situation as mine can talk me off the fence. I am finally more or less ready to pull the trigger on a large set.
A few things:
-I love the 70" Elite but can't justify the price. I also love the 65 VT50.
-I've seen way too many issues with clouding in the various cheaper Sharp 70" LCDs to take a chance that I get a perfect one.
-The set will be in a room with a fair number of windows but we don't do all that much day time viewing, and when we do it tends to be at times of days when there's no direct sunlight shining onto the location of the tv.
-Primary sources are awful Cablevision stb with graphics heavy UI, and PS3 for BR and Netflix.

So I can't address whether the console is an issue or not (do those not have screen savers of some kind?). I can tell you how I ruled out the Elite / ruled in the Panasonic.

* To me, I saw the Elite as literally twice the money because, well, it is. Under the theory I'll keep this TV for something like 5 years as I did the last one, I expect the $3000 I saved to buy the next TV. I can't believe anything about the Elite makes it so good I want it more than my next TV as well. And, look, even though the other $3000 could be spent now and replaced later, it could also be spent taking my wife on vacation now.
* Things like uniformity and off-axis mattered enough to me.
* I believe the current VT50 will be sufficient during the daytime. It has multiple modes so you can set one up for daytime and I'm already finding the rejection from the filters a significant upgrade over a much older set.

EDIT: I've found a potential deal breaker

I fired up Game 1 of the NBA Finals, which we missed the other day because we both had work stuff. I'm find whatever is going on with the arena strobes completely unacceptable. Even though arena-based sports are a very small percentage of what we watch, this is not good. As in: If this is as irritating by Game 3, I struggle to imagine tolerating it.

It's worth noting that I've had a plasma in my living room for 6 years and have never noticed this as a problem before. So what's going on there that's making this so irritating? The new set is brighter, yes... But it surely has more aggressive power-saving circuitry and perhaps a more aggressive ABL? Looking for insight here.
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post #2565 of 12501
6/14/12 at 11:39am
Noise reduction.

has anyone actually seen any of these controls do anything?

Block NR?
Mosquito NR?

I've played with them for awhile and I can't see anything substantial.
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6/14/12 at 11:42am
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I fired up Game 1 of the NBA Finals, which we missed the other day because we both had work stuff. I'm find whatever is going on with the arena strobes completely unacceptable. Even though arena-based sports are a very small percentage of what we watch, this is not good. As in: If this is as irritating by Game 3, I struggle to imagine tolerating it.
It's worth noting that I've had a plasma in my living room for 6 years and have never noticed this as a problem before. So what's going on there that's making this so irritating? The new set is brighter, yes... But it surely has more aggressive power-saving circuitry and perhaps a more aggressive ABL? Looking for insight here.

This was just as (if not more) annoying to me on the D8000. It's more aggressive/frequent strobes, not the display.
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6/14/12 at 11:43am
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Noise reduction.
has anyone actually seen any of these controls do anything?
Block NR?
Mosquito NR?
I've played with them for awhile and I can't see anything substantial.

I never have either, so I leave em off as the gurus suggest.
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6/14/12 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

Like the 80" I just reference, the Sharps to my eyes look exactly as you are describing. Get rid of it if you can is my suggestion. A sharp LCD may be a fairly good vacation home TV that never really gets used and does well to fill an open space on a wall. If you bought the Sharp in the first place, you may be a great candidate for an ST50. VT50 is def better but the ST50 may suit you better if cost is a factor.
Thanks for your response. It's weird - I probably couldn't film and show someone what I'm seeing. Maybe it's the 120 hz refresh rate that is supposed to be plenty - but my eyes are ULTRA sensitive, so I may actually be seeing this. I have 28 days to return to BB, and I will likely try one of the Panny 65 inchers at that time. I don't want to go below 65 inch. I started with 82 inch Mitsubishi (that had buzzing problem from fans). Now this LED is affecting my eyes. What would you suggest for a 65" Panny plasma that does NOT have any buzzing and which should be relatively smooth and easy on the eyes. I'd prefer to avoid too much glare as well if possible. Thanks.
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6/14/12 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I never have either, so I leave em off as the gurus suggest.

I think they might be useful to clean up my cable/IPTV. It seems like they are non-functioning to me.

On or Off... I think they're off.
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6/14/12 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by NateDoggg View Post

Thanks for your response. It's weird - I probably couldn't film and show someone what I'm seeing. Maybe it's the 120 hz refresh rate that is supposed to be plenty - but my eyes are ULTRA sensitive, so I may actually be seeing this. I have 28 days to return to BB, and I will likely try one of the Panny 65 inchers at that time. I don't want to go below 65 inch. I started with 82 inch Mitsubishi (that had buzzing problem from fans). Now this LED is affecting my eyes. What would you suggest for a 65" Panny plasma that does NOT have any buzzing and which should be relatively smooth and easy on the eyes. I'd prefer to avoid too much glare as well if possible. Thanks.

If you use a home theater for your sound then the plasma buzzing may not be an issue at all for you. I would take a hard look at the ST, GT and the VT. ST would surely be a step up from where you are now. If your wallet can handle it, I would go VT. The VT is the set that has the least chance for any buyers remorse IMO. smile.gif
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6/14/12 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

If you use a home theater for your sound then the plasma buzzing may not be an issue at all for you. I would take a hard look at the ST, GT and the VT. ST would surely be a step up from where you are now. If your wallet can handle it, I would go VT. The VT is the set that has the least chance for any buyers remorse IMO. smile.gif

I do use a home theater (Sony AV Receiver, Panasonic Blu Ray, Martin Logan speakers) - all at mid to high range for their type. My wallet can handle the VT if it will give me the least problems. Again, the Mits DLP had a buzzing sound that I could hear no matter how loud I turned up my speakers - and I don't necessarily listen to TV real loud anyway. So, between the ST, GT, and VT, which model will give me A) the least unwanted noise and B) the least glare? Looking at 65 inch models only. Sorry for all the questions, but I know NOTHING about plasma TVs. Thanks.
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6/14/12 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by NateDoggg View Post

Hey all. I just bought a Sharp 70" LED. I like it, but it's giving me headaches. I've never previously owned an LED, LCD, or Plasma. Is it possible that the LED technology is just too hard on my eyes?...

I've never liked the picture of the newer LED back light LCD's... the image (brightness) seems so nu-natural. Its reminds me of when people swap out their outside house/porch lights for the "cool" or "pure white" bulbs that are supposedly closer to the colour temp of natural sunlight - yet these lights couldn't look more un-nantural.

Can you adjust the back light on these LED panels? On my XBR its a setting just like contrast or brightness and on my custom setting I have it set to 1 or 0 (whatever the lowest setting is). I adjust contrast and brightest from there. I find it helps achieve the darkest blacks out of the set.

Within the past few weeks I have been trying to get up to speed on the market after several years of indifference and absence. I had no idea Pioneer was out of the business completely. I thought they had been sourcing their panels from Panasonic and continuing the Kuro line. And it was only until a few days ago I put two and two together and realised a 70" Elite is a Sharp LED! lol. When I use to sell electronics they were the Aquos back then, remember? :P

Getting back to Panasonic plasma, from what I've read the consensus seems to be these sets do need to be "broken in" (either formally or in-formally). Someone in this thread I believe posted a link where a VT was professionally calibrated and tested. Even in this test, it was stated they used a set that had been run for 150 hours. So, let's talk about this initial usage for a quick second. Some people use slides from what I understand, and others simply view as much varied content as possible out of the box (avoiding non 16:9 formats, with the contrast turned down a bit, etc, etc). For me, it would seem that using colour slides would in fact be the best way to exercise (let's call it) each pixel evenly. So my total newbie question is what is the best slide program and where do you buy this from?

My other newbie question is how expensive is it to professionally calibrate a VT and who do you call to do this? I live in Toronto - anybody know?

From what I can see the only 2 big differences between the VT and GT is the 24p playback and the fancy calibration option. If I spring for a VT I'd surely want to have it professionally calibrated, but that is, not unless it costs an arm & a leg and obviously not unless the service is even being offered by someone or company up here. I'm really surprised how only the VT's get the 24p... I've been watching 24p BD's on my XBR4 LCD and first generation (like first model) Sony BD player since 2007. Why is this such an oversight by Panasonic on all their other models? Is this 24 frames playback a Sony thing? (something they cooked up and pushed as a marketing hype?)
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6/14/12 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by NateDoggg View Post

I do use a home theater (Sony AV Receiver, Panasonic Blu Ray, Martin Logan speakers) - all at mid to high range for their type. My wallet can handle the VT if it will give me the least problems. Again, the Mits DLP had a buzzing sound that I could hear no matter how loud I turned up my speakers - and I don't necessarily listen to TV real loud anyway. So, between the ST, GT, and VT, which model will give me A) the least unwanted noise and B) the least glare? Looking at 65 inch models only. Sorry for all the questions, but I know NOTHING about plasma TVs. Thanks.

I only own the vt50. With that said, at normal listening levels you should not hear anything you do not want to. And filter on VT is the best of the three.
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6/14/12 at 12:29pm
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I've never liked the picture of the newer LED back light LCD's... the image (brightness) seems so nu-natural. Its reminds me of when people swap out their outside house/porch lights for the "cool" or "pure white" bulbs that are supposedly closer to the colour temp of natural sunlight - yet these lights couldn't look more un-nantural.
Can you adjust the back light on these LED panels? On my XBR its a setting just like contrast or brightness and on my custom setting I have it set to 1 or 0 (whatever the lowest setting is). I adjust contrast and brightest from there. I find it helps achieve the darkest blacks out of the set.
Within the past few weeks I have been trying to get up to speed on the market after several years of indifference and absence. I had no idea Pioneer was out of the business completely. I thought they had been sourcing their panels from Panasonic and continuing the Kuro line. And it was only until a few days ago I put two and two together and realised a 70" Elite is a Sharp LED! lol. When I use to sell electronics they were the Aquos back then, remember? :P
Getting back to Panasonic plasma, from what I've read the consensus seems to be these sets do need to be "broken in" (either formally or in-formally). Someone in this thread I believe posted a link where a VT was professionally calibrated and tested. Even in this test, it was stated they used a set that had been run for 150 hours. So, let's talk about this initial usage for a quick second. Some people use slides from what I understand, and others simply view as much varied content as possible out of the box (avoiding non 16:9 formats, with the contrast turned down a bit, etc, etc). For me, it would seem that using colour slides would in fact be the best way to exercise (let's call it) each pixel evenly. So my total newbie question is what is the best slide program and where do you buy this from?
My other newbie question is how expensive is it to professionally calibrate a VT and who do you call to do this? I live in Toronto - anybody know?
From what I can see the only 2 big differences between the VT and GT is the 24p playback and the fancy calibration option. If I spring for a VT I'd surely want to have it professionally calibrated, but that is, not unless it costs an arm & a leg and obviously not unless the service is even being offered by someone or company up here. I'm really surprised how only the VT's get the 24p... I've been watching 24p BD's on my XBR4 LCD and first generation (like first model) Sony BD player since 2007. Why is this such an oversight by Panasonic on all their other models? Is this 24 frames playback a Sony thing? (something they cooked up and pushed as a marketing hype?)

1. The Sharp Elite is an off shoot of the normal sharp line. Its a group of ex-pioneer folks that teamed up with Sharp to try and build a set in homage of the kuro. I don't think that has materialized other than the black levels. They get to cherry pick sharps best panels and have at it. I think they made a huge mistake by not teaming up with Panny and working a plasma Elite. Makes no sense to me that they went with led.

2. There are threads and links to calibrators. I am sure we can get a link from someone for that.

3. Break-in is a good idea. How to break in is up for debate. I always used slides. This time round I just used common sense and that has worked out fine for me.

4. I will get slapped for this but I may not get my set calibrated. This thing is a beast out of the box and quite accurate. But many will argue that a calibration may well be worth it for what may be a 10% pq improvement. D-Nice or Chad would be the guys to run with as they are the best.

5. It has been reported by several since the vt30 that 24p playback seems to function on all three sets as if they all have 96hz function. So even though the st and gt "dont have it", 24p content plays smoothly regardless.

6. VT also has better filter and single sheet of glass. That alone is worth it to me. I love the look.
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6/14/12 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

This was just as (if not more) annoying to me on the D8000. It's more aggressive/frequent strobes, not the display.

You are referring to the D800 plasma or the LCD?
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6/14/12 at 1:13pm
plasma - but it's just as annoying on my 25 yr old CRT
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6/14/12 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

1. The Sharp Elite is an off shoot of the normal sharp line. Its a group of ex-pioneer folks that teamed up with Sharp to try and build a set in homage of the kuro. I don't think that has materialized other than the black levels. They get to cherry pick sharps best panels and have at it. I think they made a huge mistake by not teaming up with Panny and working a plasma Elite. Makes no sense to me that they went with led.
Sharp basically owns Pioneer. That's why.
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post #2578 of 12501
6/14/12 at 2:33pm
Received my 65VT50 from Amazon this afternoon.

Thought it unusual for it to not have a plastic film on the front.

Do they normally come with that plastic film????
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post #2579 of 12501
6/14/12 at 2:41pm
having not seen one out of the box yet, I would guess NO since one would not want to mess up the filter.
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post #2580 of 12501
6/14/12 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Received my 65VT50 from Amazon this afternoon.
Thought it unusual for it to not have a plastic film on the front.
Do they normally come with that plastic film????

only on the bezel. My 2009 Samsung only had it on the bezel too
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