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post #301 of 13484
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Originally Posted by PathofNeo View Post

I think we need a referee in here.

How about a cage match
post #302 of 13484
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

The ST50 is one of the best TVs out there, regardless of price. It offers PQ fairly close to a VT50 at a fraction of the price.

This post is worth re-reading a few dozen times. ^^^

Those of us looking at the VT50 seriously are basically agreeing to spend $1000 or so in pursuit of that little bit extra.
post #303 of 13484
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

This post is worth re-reading a few dozen times. ^^^

Those of us looking at the VT50 seriously are basically agreeing to spend $1000 or so in pursuit of that little bit extra.

Agreed. I have a VT50 on order, but it's the ST50 that I'm recommending to friends/family.
post #304 of 13484
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Originally Posted by robase007 View Post

I still don't understand why you have to run the slides. It's not necessary.Just leave it in THX.

I see it like this: many years ago when I bought my car the manual stated not to exceed 3000RPM and 70MPH for the first 500 miles. This was to allow the bearing and piston ring surfaces to 'seat' correctly before reving the motor faster. It is also true that one should use brakes lightly after replacing the pads and rotors so the surfaces can 'seat' together.

The pixels (or subpixels) 'age'. And they 'age' a lot the first 100 hours. That is, the aging is not linear over the life of the set. This aging causes a color shift, one that can be noted with calibration instruments. Hence the slides assure that all the pixels from corner to corner get 'scrubbed' for that first 100 hours. If you calibrated the set that first hour then came back 100 hours later you would find that things had shifted and you would need to do it again.

if you're never going to get it calibrated, then don't worry about it.
post #305 of 13484
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

This is what makes the GT50 an odd-ball choice of a television for 2012. ST50 and VT50 make perfect sense given their price points and feature sets.

And as such the GT is not being sold in Australia.!
post #306 of 13484
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Originally Posted by weedeater View Post

I see it like this: many years ago when I bought my car the manual stated not to exceed 3000RPM and 70MPH for the first 500 miles. This was to allow the bearing and piston ring surfaces to 'seat' correctly before reving the motor faster. It is also true that one should use brakes lightly after replacing the pads and rotors so the surfaces can 'seat' together.

The pixels (or subpixels) 'age'. And they 'age' a lot the first 100 hours. That is, the aging is not linear over the life of the set. This aging causes a color shift, one that can be noted with calibration instruments. Hence the slides assure that all the pixels from corner to corner get 'scrubbed' for that first 100 hours. If you calibrated the set that first hour then came back 100 hours later you would find that things had shifted and you would need to do it again.

if you're never going to get it calibrated, then don't worry about it.

I think it's the complete opposite...

If you're EVER going to get it calibrated, you don't need to worry about it. Just enjoy the first 100 hours, and then... calibrate. That's the *entire* point of calibration: to correct for any color shifts due to variance in the set, whether it be straight from the factory, or 100 hours after use.

The *only* reason you should need to run the slides is to at best attempt to match the same "break-in" profile as D-Nice so that you can use his post-100 hr settings. That's it. If you're planning on calibrating with your own equipment, or having a pro do it, all you're doing is significantly bumping up your power bill for that month.
post #307 of 13484
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

I think it's the complete opposite...

If you're EVER going to get it calibrated, you don't need to worry about it. Just enjoy the first 100 hours, and then... calibrate. That's the *entire* point of calibration: to correct for any color shifts due to variance in the set, whether it be straight from the factory, or 100 hours after use.

The *only* reason you should need to run the slides is to at best attempt to match the same "break-in" profile as D-Nice so that you can use his post-100 hr settings. That's it. If you're planning on calibrating with your own equipment, or having a pro do it, all you're doing is significantly bumping up your power bill for that month.

Exactly. Plugging in D-Nice' settings won't be perfect and was never meant to replace a calibration, but running his slides and following his prep to a T will eliminate as many variables as possible to ensure the best results you can achieve by simply plugging in someone else' settings.

If you're calibrating your TV whether it be by yourself or professionally, you don't have to run the slides at all. Just wait 100 hours then get it done.
post #308 of 13484
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

This post is worth re-reading a few dozen times. ^^^

Those of us looking at the VT50 seriously are basically agreeing to spend $1000 or so in pursuit of that little bit extra.

I'd pay another $200 on top that to get that extra shiny trim/frame removed. I would imagine if somoene sold a rubber sleave that fit the set perfectly they could make a fortune.
post #309 of 13484
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I'd pay another $200 on top that to get that extra shiny trim/frame removed. I would imagine if somoene sold a rubber sleave that fit the set perfectly they could make a fortune.

post #310 of 13484
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I'd pay another $200 on top that to get that extra shiny trim/frame removed. I would imagine if somoene sold a rubber sleave that fit the set perfectly they could make a fortune.

I'm pretty much with you there, but I'm holding out hope that it looks better in person. They usually do. They also tend to make the TV look a lot better in the room when it's *off*. Of course all of us are afraid of what it looks like when it's *on*.

Early reports of people seeing the trim in person, however, seem to be surprisingly positive.
post #311 of 13484
If you can wrap your car in vinyl i see no reason why the trim around your tv would be any different. Given some patience, this would be easy, kinda odd - but easy. I guess i'm lucky I like the metal trim! Rolls of 3M vinyl are cheap...
post #312 of 13484
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I'd pay another $200 on top that to get that extra shiny trim/frame removed. I would imagine if somoene sold a rubber sleave that fit the set perfectly they could make a fortune.

I'll sell you a black sharpie designed for plasma televisions for $200. It comes with a year free subscription to Netflix.
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Originally Posted by weedeater View Post

The pixels (or subpixels) 'age'.

I believe its the phosphors that age, not the pixels.
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Just got my VT50. Obviously I'm excited right now, but it looks great. THX Cinema and THX Cinema 3D look great. The blacks are noticeably deeper than my 2010 G20 by quite a bit. The image processing seems to be better considering that my feed from Dish Network looks cleaner on the VT50 on top of the fact that it's 5" bigger than my old Panasonic.

The design looks great. I don't think Panasonic's ever made a nicer looking set, IMO. The bezel is so much smaller than the oversized one on the VT30 (thank god).
post #315 of 13484
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

I'm pretty much with you there, but I'm holding out hope that it looks better in person. They usually do. They also tend to make the TV look a lot better in the room when it's *off*. Of course all of us are afraid of what it looks like when it's *on*.

Early reports of people seeing the trim in person, however, seem to be surprisingly positive.

I've seen it in person. I believe it looks every bit as bad in person.

I'm just not rejecting what I believe is the best set for 2012 because of 1/2" of trim.
post #316 of 13484
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Originally Posted by fatuglyguy View Post

Just got my VT50. Obviously I'm excited right now, but it looks great. THX Cinema and THX Cinema 3D look great. The blacks are noticeably deeper than my 2010 G20 by quite a bit. The image processing seems to be better considering that my feed from Dish Network looks cleaner on the VT50 on top of the fact that it's 5" bigger than my old Panasonic.

The design looks great. I don't think Panasonic's ever made a nicer looking set, IMO. The bezel is so much smaller than the oversized one on the VT30 (thank god).

Could you post some picks
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Attachment 245915

Here's one taken with my phone...
LL
post #318 of 13484
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Originally Posted by fatuglyguy View Post

Attachment 245915

Here's one taken with my phone...

Looking Good! Looking forward to your impressions!
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Originally Posted by fatuglyguy View Post


Here's one taken with my phone...

Looks great,can't wait for mine
post #320 of 13484
You might do very well with some light blocking curtains. Not expensive compared to what you spent on the set! Easy fix!
post #321 of 13484
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I'd pay another $200 on top that to get that extra shiny trim/frame removed. I would imagine if somoene sold a rubber sleave that fit the set perfectly they could make a fortune.

I've already envisioned myself applying some black 1/2" wide 3M pinstriping tape over that metallic trim when i saw my first GT50 the other day.....

post #322 of 13484
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Could you post some picks


post #323 of 13484
I don't know what everyone's problem with the trim is? I have an "ancient" Philips plasma and the trim/ bezel around that one is almost a huge as the screen itself lol.
post #324 of 13484
Attachment 245919

The Dark Knight (BD)

The light from the shades actually looks a lot worse than it is in the pictures.

Some detail shots on the set would be more useful but the room i'm in is pretty dim.
LL
post #325 of 13484
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

I know,you think for the amount of money you are spending for this tv they would at least throw in a pair of 3D glasses.I ordered a pair from amazon so when I get my 65VT50 I can watch my 3D movies

I'm with you. I was just thinking about Panasonic not sending along a couple of pairs of glasses. Makes them look cheap compared to Samsung.
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post #327 of 13484
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Originally Posted by Akuma1970 View Post

I don't know what everyone's problem with the trim is? I have an "ancient" Philips plasma and the trim/ bezel around that one is almost a huge as the screen itself lol.

The complaint is due to the fact that the edge is reflective silver, and therefore creates an artificial, unnecessary border around the screen. My theory is that Panasonic's marketing thought it would be a good idea because it makes it look more like a modern "bezelless" LCD (I don't think they know their market). I think the vast majority of us would have preferred (some even would pay extra) to get a VT50 WITHOUT any sort of metallic edge.

While I think that some of the posts joking about putting black trim along the edge are funny, I am honestly curious to see someone try this and post photos of their results
post #328 of 13484
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

I'm with you. I was just thinking about Panasonic not sending along a couple of pairs of glasses. Makes them look cheap compared to Samsung.

Overhere in Belgium, the glasses are included with the TV??
post #329 of 13484
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post


I'm with you. I was just thinking about Panasonic not sending along a couple of pairs of glasses. Makes them look cheap compared to Samsung.

Considering that most people complain or don't care about 3D, I can see why Panasonic chose not to include any glasses. Also keep in mind that Panasonic lowered the MSRP of the VT50s before release. Packing in glasses would add to the cost. I have a pair of the new Samsung glasses and they sync find but are not built nearly as well as the Panny ones.
post #330 of 13484
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Originally Posted by robase007 View Post

I have a 65VT30 and I have never used these break slides.Its just a waste of time. As long as you use THX and you are sensible with viewing certain channels for the first couple hundred hours you'll be fine.

I've never run any slides on my two previous Samsung PDPs. Played games from day one and never looked back. I'm having my 65VT50 calibrated by Jeff in June.
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