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post #3481 of 13476
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Originally Posted by pinktri View Post

Again the point was missed and I will clarify one last time.
Gene stated quality = more expensive: do I agree? sometime yes sometimes no but "always" NOWAY!
Gene stated that the lower cost of a plasma over a comparable LCD/LED will even things out: he stated that not me, do I agree? NOWAY! it would take a 40 years to make back the difference in price. HTguru I couldn't agree with you more!
So lets recap what gene said and why i found it ridiculous.
1. If we use Gene's mentality of quality = more expensive, then any tv that is higher priced than VT is of higher quality because "quality always costs a few bucks more "
2. Gene stated the cost per year to run a plasma will even things out. So in the end after so and so many years of use, both televisions price will be comparable.


obviously you are an LCD?LED fan, nothing wrong with that.....plasma owners know the deal and the quality and the cost..as one other poster noted...energy cost isn't all that much more and the performance is worth the difference by far IMO, doesn't make it Gospel,but I am a plasma fan and this is about plasma tv 's thread...would you go to a Porsche thread and argue how much better you think a Prius is?

how come no one is arguing the first point of my post?..you know the one about the poor Fios reception which was the first problem the OP was complaining about?
post #3482 of 13476
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

This is flat out wrong. Every single VT50/GT50 I've calibrated has an overly green grayscale. Not one, not some, all of them.
I will be posting 65VT50 settings soon. 55VT50 setting will follow later on in July.

Off-topic, I know, but any rough timetable for when you will be posting GT50 settings?
post #3483 of 13476
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

At first I liked those settings but quickly realized that people had a strong yellow green tint. I am talking alien looking. Not sure what was up. I know many have been content with his settings, so must be my panel but it was obvious. Looking forward to Dewaynes settings.

The tint is so obvious. D-nice is very right about that.
post #3484 of 13476
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I seemed to see the pq fall at far less than 70 degrees. Seemed to see a diff at about 45 myself.

Hmm I guess what I meant is if I am sitting perpendicular that would be 90 degrees as my starting point. I guess that is the wrong way of describing it smile.gif. So what I should say is everyone will be within 0-20 degrees of the center point of the TV.

At BB, at 7-8 feet away, I found it was around 35-45ish degrees that the colors started to shift. Very slight, but if you are a critical viewer, you will notice.
post #3485 of 13476
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

Hmm I guess what I meant is if I am sitting perpendicular that would be 90 degrees as my starting point. I guess that is the wrong way of describing it smile.gif. So what I should say is everyone will be within 0-20 degrees of the center point of the TV.
At BB, at 7-8 feet away, I found it was around 35-45ish degrees that the colors started to shift. Very slight, but if you are a critical viewer, you will notice.

I think I read that on the Elite, cyan starts to shift when you turn it on... tongue.gif
post #3486 of 13476
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

At first I liked those settings but quickly realized that people had a strong yellow green tint. I am talking alien looking. Not sure what was up. I know many have been content with his settings, so must be my panel but it was obvious. Looking forward to Dewaynes settings.

The tint is so obvious. D-nice is very right about that.

I was talking about wmkillers settings. They just did not work for my particular set. But yeah I see it on a lesser extent in the cinema mode.
post #3487 of 13476
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Thanks Topper. I will try these when I get it up and running.

You try em yet Nate? Horrible or sweet or in between? biggrin.gif
post #3488 of 13476
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Yes,when they deliver your replacement they pick up the defective one.Just make sure you let amazon know when you call them for a replacement.It took about a week for me to get mine.Delivery and pick up went smooth,they removed the new one from the box helped me mount it and put the defective one into the same box and took it away

If they can do that, I will be more inclined to exchange my set. What other issues are out there?

Vertical lines
Dead pixels (so rare these days)
Dirty Screen Effect
Poor IR

Anything else?
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

I think I read that on the Elite, cyan starts to shift when you turn it on... tongue.gif

But I heard if you watch the TV on an angle the cyan color tracking is perfect. So depending on the movie, the best seat in the house might not be in the middle.
post #3490 of 13476
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Yes,when they deliver your replacement they pick up the defective one.Just make sure you let amazon know when you call them for a replacement.It took about a week for me to get mine.Delivery and pick up went smooth,they removed the new one from the box helped me mount it and put the defective one into the same box and took it away

If they can do that, I will be more inclined to exchange my set. What other issues are out there?

Vertical lines
Dead pixels (so rare these days)
Dirty Screen Effect
Poor IR

Anything else?

I have had zero issue with any of the above. I guess I could detect DSE if I look for it, but its on the same level as my Kuro, so I never register it.

So pretty darn near perfect panel for Uncle Topper biggrin.gif
post #3491 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

"In most cases" Chad and I have found the THX settings are quite good.

As someone who is multiple kinds of color blind (seriously, both red/green and blue/brown issues, makes taking the color dot tests interesting and sometimes inconclusive) I have found that out of the box the THX settings are better than anything I was able to get out of any of my previous LCD panels and projector. I may try throwing in Topper's settings for an alternative take but THX is very very good.

In the words of the great Reggie Watts: "Perfect is subjective" =)
post #3492 of 13476
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

This is flat out wrong. Every single VT50/GT50 I've calibrated has an overly green grayscale. Not one, not some, all of them.
I will be posting 65VT50 settings soon. 55VT50 setting will follow later on in July.

Hey D-Nice I sent you a PM. Follow up when you can!
post #3493 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

"In most cases" Chad and I have found the THX settings are quite good.

Thanks for the qualifier.
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I have had zero issue with any of the above. I guess I could detect DSE if I look for it, but its on the same level as my Kuro, so I never register it.
So pretty darn near perfect panel for Uncle Topper biggrin.gif

I am just wondering what other issues that are out there that I might run into..
post #3495 of 13476
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

You try em yet Nate? Horrible or sweet or in between? biggrin.gif

I have not yet. Running slides the rest of today, then I'll lug it out to the living room tomorrow morning and give it a run. I'm gonna leave it on the floor below my Sharp and run Composite cables from Cable box to Panny (I have HDMI from Cable to Sharp) - see if I can get content on both TVs at same time. Then I plan on swapping HDMI from receiver between Sharp and Panny to test specific parts of movies and XBox I've cataloged. Sherlock Holmes, Attack of Clones, Transformers 2, X-Men, and Disney WOW disc 2 will be my Blu Ray tests, with Halo Reach and Rage being my XBox tests.

So, I should be able to let you know tomorrow evening how the settings are and how this TV stacks up.
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I have had zero issue with any of the above. I guess I could detect DSE if I look for it, but its on the same level as my Kuro, so I never register it.
So pretty darn near perfect panel for Uncle Topper biggrin.gif

Very good set, but far from perfect... My hopes are on OLED 3 or 4 years down the road.
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What's the deal with the grayed out options? For example, the 3:2 pull down is always grayed out to OFF. How do I activate them? I am connected to a DVDO Duo. Does that have anything to do with it? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by TWD View Post

What's the deal with the grayed out options? For example, the 3:2 pull down is always grayed out to OFF. How do I activate them? I am connected to a DVDO Duo. Does that have anything to do with it? Thanks.

Options that are not applicable to the source input you are feeding the TV are greyed-out. If your DVDO Duo is feeding 60 fps, then 3:2 pull down will be greyed-out. If you feed 24 fps source material the option will become available.
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I have had zero issue with any of the above. I guess I could detect DSE if I look for it, but its on the same level as my Kuro, so I never register it.
So pretty darn near perfect panel for Uncle Topper biggrin.gif

Very good set, but far from perfect... My hopes are on OLED 3 or 4 years down the road.

I meant perfect as far as defects not PQ. There is not a manufactured item out there that would meet the criteria for perfect. We will have many things to complain about with OLED as well and the tech after that and so on and so forth. biggrin.gif

In about 15 years or so, a person will be complaining that their full-wall screen is not providing calibrated scents because the dog poo on the screen smells like lilac.

Technology seen in Prometheus is already available to Hollywood. You will be able to turn a large wall into a window to another place and have difficulty telling if it is real or not. Even OLED is just a stepping stone.
Edited by TopperMcFly - 6/26/12 at 9:50am
post #3500 of 13476
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Originally Posted by uublr View Post

Yes, free for silver reward members. I happened to have bought a nice camera and some drum equipment from them in the same year which qualified me.
I scheduled the appointment for two weeks. They're going to ask a series of "lifestyle questions" (sports, movies, or reality TV..? during the day or at night..? ), check/verify all my cables and connections, check/verify my Harmony remote configuration, and then calibrate the TV. This is what I'm most interested in. I'll watch them closely and record all the changes, and then let you guys know how it went. Has anyone else had BB out, and how did it go?

Please let us know how it goes.
post #3501 of 13476
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I meant perfect as far as defects not PQ. There is not a manufactured item out there that would meet the criteria for perfect. We will have many things to complain about with OLED as well and the tech after that and so on and so forth. biggrin.gif
In about 15 years or so, a person will be complaining that their full-wall screen is not providing calibrated scents because the dog poo on the screen smells like lilac.
Technology seen in Prometheus is already available to Hollywood. You will be able to turn a large wall into a window to another place and have difficulty telling if it is real or not. Even OLED is just a stepping stone.
We already complain about this when riding Soaring Over California at Disneyland... the citrus and pine scents merge some times... totally unacceptable:p;)
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I meant perfect as far as defects not PQ. There is not a manufactured item out there that would meet the criteria for perfect. We will have many things to complain about with OLED as well and the tech after that and so on and so forth. biggrin.gif
In about 15 years or so, a person will be complaining that their full-wall screen is not providing calibrated scents because the dog poo on the screen smells like lilac.
Technology seen in Prometheus is already available to Hollywood. You will be able to turn a large wall into a window to another place and have difficulty telling if it is real or not. Even OLED is just a stepping stone.
We already complain about this when riding Soaring Over California at Disneyland... the citrus and pine scents merge some times... totally unacceptable:p;)

tongue.gif
post #3503 of 13476
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

I think you'll find me in the group of people that for years has been explaining that 100% of plasma TVs buzz.

Very true - the buzzing is inherent in the way PDP panels are constructed and operated. There are some patents out there that attempt to raise the natural frequency of the panel vibration (this is what you hear) above the normal auditory range, but I don't know if any of the current panels employ such substrate modifications.
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

I think you'll find me in the group of people that for years has been explaining that 100% of plasma TVs buzz.

Very true - the buzzing is inherent in the way PDP panels are constructed and operated. There are some patents out there that attempt to raise the natural frequency of the panel vibration (this is what you hear) above the normal auditory range, but I don't know if any of the current panels employ such substrate modifications.

My set does not buzz at all. It purrrrrs ever so slightly because it loves what I feed it. biggrin.gif

Bright slides and snow scenes are like lobster and steak.

Interesting info though zoyd
Edited by TopperMcFly - 6/26/12 at 12:16pm
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Panasonic still cannot tell me if they have received my broken TV from their shipping company and they told me today it could be 6-8 weeks after they get it before I get my money back.

If they don't have the TV found by COB today I am having Amex pull the charge and let the two of them fight it out. I'm done with this ********. I may do it anyway. It will have been 4 months without my money back if they take all 8 weeks.

If you consider buying ANYTHING ever again from Panasonic EPP after hearing just a 1/4 of what I have gone through you are CRAZY.

It absolutely sucks that such an awesome TV is made by a company that considers this division even remotely competent. How the two sides can be part of the same organization is unbelievable.
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If your display buzzes, my advice would be to sign up for Dish Network. Their receivers constantly sound like a jet taking off, you'll never hear a buzz again. biggrin.gif
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Odd request, but how large (how many horizontal lines) are your top and bottom gaps? My bottom has about 8 and my top has about 4. So the gap on the bottom is twice the width of the top. Ideally my screen needs to be shifted down 2 clicks. Curious if anyone else has this issue? I can't be the only one!
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

Panasonic still cannot tell me if they have received my broken TV from their shipping company and they told me today it could be 6-8 weeks after they get it before I get my money back.
If they don't have the TV found by COB today I am having Amex pull the charge and let the two of them fight it out. I'm done with this ********. I may do it anyway. It will have been 4 months without my money back if they take all 8 weeks.
If you consider buying ANYTHING ever again from Panasonic EPP after hearing just a 1/4 of what I have gone through you are CRAZY.
It absolutely sucks that such an awesome TV is made by a company that considers this division even remotely competent. How the two sides can be part of the same organization is unbelievable.
Damn, that really sucks man, best of luck sorting it out.

I had my order placed with amazon and the shipping company called me the day of delivery and told me they had not received it yet and needed to reschedule. I was bent because I made arrangements to be home for it so on a fluke I asked Best Buy if they would match Sears Fathers Day price (this was the Monday after) and they agreed to give it to me for $40 more. The total cost with CA state tax was $50 more than amazon but after the tip I was planning on giving each delivery guy it was more like $10. I pulled the trigger and canceled the amazon order (still waiting on my credit) mostly for the reason that if there is an issue I can box it up, haul it in and return or exchange it w/out dealing with shipping, receiving, etc. Anyways, sorry it's gone so sour for you, hopefully they will get it sorted out quickly.
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Damn, that really sucks man, best of luck sorting it out.
I had my order placed with amazon and the shipping company called me the day of delivery and told me they had not received it yet and needed to reschedule. I was bent because I made arrangements to be home for it so on a fluke I asked Best Buy if they would match Sears Fathers Day price (this was the Monday after) and they agreed to give it to me for $40 more. The total cost with CA state tax was $50 more than amazon but after the tip I was planning on giving each delivery guy it was more like $10. I pulled the trigger and canceled the amazon order (still waiting on my credit) mostly for the reason that if there is an issue I can box it up, haul it in and return or exchange it w/out dealing with shipping, receiving, etc. Anyways, sorry it's gone so sour for you, hopefully they will get it sorted out quickly.
How are you enjoying your vt50 so far.smile.gif I decided to cautiously break in mine, so I haven't been able to do some critical viewing.
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

How are you enjoying your vt50 so far.smile.gif I decided to cautiously break in mine, so I haven't been able to do some critical viewing.

Don't worry about breaking it in! Just enjoy the damn thing smile.gif
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