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post #3511 of 12287
6/26/12 at 1:12pm
If your display buzzes, my advice would be to sign up for Dish Network. Their receivers constantly sound like a jet taking off, you'll never hear a buzz again. biggrin.gif
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post #3512 of 12287
6/26/12 at 1:12pm
Odd request, but how large (how many horizontal lines) are your top and bottom gaps? My bottom has about 8 and my top has about 4. So the gap on the bottom is twice the width of the top. Ideally my screen needs to be shifted down 2 clicks. Curious if anyone else has this issue? I can't be the only one!
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post #3513 of 12287
6/26/12 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

Panasonic still cannot tell me if they have received my broken TV from their shipping company and they told me today it could be 6-8 weeks after they get it before I get my money back.
If they don't have the TV found by COB today I am having Amex pull the charge and let the two of them fight it out. I'm done with this ********. I may do it anyway. It will have been 4 months without my money back if they take all 8 weeks.
If you consider buying ANYTHING ever again from Panasonic EPP after hearing just a 1/4 of what I have gone through you are CRAZY.
It absolutely sucks that such an awesome TV is made by a company that considers this division even remotely competent. How the two sides can be part of the same organization is unbelievable.
Damn, that really sucks man, best of luck sorting it out.

I had my order placed with amazon and the shipping company called me the day of delivery and told me they had not received it yet and needed to reschedule. I was bent because I made arrangements to be home for it so on a fluke I asked Best Buy if they would match Sears Fathers Day price (this was the Monday after) and they agreed to give it to me for $40 more. The total cost with CA state tax was $50 more than amazon but after the tip I was planning on giving each delivery guy it was more like $10. I pulled the trigger and canceled the amazon order (still waiting on my credit) mostly for the reason that if there is an issue I can box it up, haul it in and return or exchange it w/out dealing with shipping, receiving, etc. Anyways, sorry it's gone so sour for you, hopefully they will get it sorted out quickly.
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post #3514 of 12287
6/26/12 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Damn, that really sucks man, best of luck sorting it out.
I had my order placed with amazon and the shipping company called me the day of delivery and told me they had not received it yet and needed to reschedule. I was bent because I made arrangements to be home for it so on a fluke I asked Best Buy if they would match Sears Fathers Day price (this was the Monday after) and they agreed to give it to me for $40 more. The total cost with CA state tax was $50 more than amazon but after the tip I was planning on giving each delivery guy it was more like $10. I pulled the trigger and canceled the amazon order (still waiting on my credit) mostly for the reason that if there is an issue I can box it up, haul it in and return or exchange it w/out dealing with shipping, receiving, etc. Anyways, sorry it's gone so sour for you, hopefully they will get it sorted out quickly.
How are you enjoying your vt50 so far.smile.gif I decided to cautiously break in mine, so I haven't been able to do some critical viewing.
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post #3515 of 12287
6/26/12 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

How are you enjoying your vt50 so far.smile.gif I decided to cautiously break in mine, so I haven't been able to do some critical viewing.

Don't worry about breaking it in! Just enjoy the damn thing smile.gif
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post #3516 of 12287
6/26/12 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

Odd request, but how large (how many horizontal lines) are your top and bottom gaps? My bottom has about 8 and my top has about 4. So the gap on the bottom is twice the width of the top. Ideally my screen needs to be shifted down 2 clicks. Curious if anyone else has this issue? I can't be the only one!

I count 5 or 6 lines both top & bottom gap looks equal.
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post #3517 of 12287
6/26/12 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by flyguyjake View Post

I count 5 or 6 lines both top & bottom gap looks equal.

Can you notice gaps during normal viewing?
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post #3518 of 12287
6/26/12 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

Don't worry about breaking it in! Just enjoy the damn thing smile.gif
Haha, ya I can't imagine myself breaking it in for another 90 hours!eek.gif I'll just start enjoying my set now.smile.gif
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post #3519 of 12287
6/26/12 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

Haha, ya I can't imagine myself breaking it in for another 90 hours!eek.gif I'll just start enjoying my set now.smile.gif

Exactly.. I watch mixed content using THX Bright Room with no fears. Don't watch ABC only obviously. Switch to non-logo channels as well like HBO. Overnight I will sometimes throw on break-in slides to get some extra hours in.
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post #3520 of 12287
6/26/12 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

Can you notice gaps during normal viewing?

I sit about 15' back from the tv so no I don't see the gaps. I have about a 1/4" gap all the way around between the image & border bezel. I personally feel that it's a poor design on Panasonic's part. The black border should meet the image like every other TV made including laptops.

I wish I didn't see the flicker and dithering!!! I'd be a happy camper otherwise. I can't stand it...
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post #3521 of 12287
6/26/12 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

How are you enjoying your vt50 so far.smile.gif I decided to cautiously break in mine, so I haven't been able to do some critical viewing.
Love'n it, fantastic panel... the inky blacks and rich colors are just superb. I have not done anything to "break it in" like I did with my first plasma, as others have said just enjoy man. I'm using wmwilker's settings which I prefer to anything else but have not tried sillysally's yet. I'll have it calibrated (my speakers too) later this summer. We are moving 4th of July week so once settled it's on. I did have a disappointing experience last night but it was not with the VT50, my Insignia bluray player would not power on:mad: I took it apart to see if I could do something with it but it's dead so I had to order another one from ebay today. I also ordered a BD500 so I can have duel HDMI outs for my older Denon receiver. I almost just went for a region freen BD93 but thought at $45 I could buy 6 Insignia bluray players in addition to the Panny BD500, drop in the old firmware to get it region free and still have spent less than the Oppo.

Ok, back to the VT... cool.gif
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Exactly.. I watch mixed content using THX Bright Room with no fears. Don't watch ABC only obviously. Switch to non-logo channels as well like HBO. Overnight I will sometimes throw on break-in slides to get some extra hours in.
Me too, if I play xbox for a bit or watch a couple movies with black bars back to back I just put in something like Avatar that fills the screen and set it to repeat for the night to keep things wearing well. Last night I fell asleep watching Sleepy Hallow but the TV shut itself off after 3 hours of inactivity:D Also no IR this morning... my only disappointment is that this does not come in a 70" or 75", I would have gladly paid another $1200 or so for 10" more:D
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post #3522 of 12287
6/26/12 at 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by flyguyjake View Post

I sit about 15' back from the tv so no I don't see the gaps. I have about a 1/4" gap all the way around between the image & border bezel. I personally feel that it's a poor design on Panasonic's part. The black border should meet the image like every other TV made including laptops.
I wish I didn't see the flicker and dithering!!! I'd be a happy camper otherwise. I can't stand it...

Thanks for that info and I agree. However if yo look closely at laptop screens (at least on my macbook pro) there is a very small gap between the screen and bezel

Still having a tough time deciding if it is worth exchanging my set. It is obvious there is a gap at the bottom of the screen. Maybe about half an inch. The gaps around the top, left, and right are pretty much undetectable unless I look for them. Going to watch a movie tonight and decide..
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post #3523 of 12287
6/26/12 at 4:18pm
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Hey D-Nice I sent you a PM. Follow up when you can!

I seem to remember him saying that it's better to contact him via the link in his signature instead of via PM. Try that.
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post #3524 of 12287
6/26/12 at 4:36pm
Ok guys stupid question...How can you check how many hours you have used the TV? Cant seem to find that anywhere..
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post #3525 of 12287
6/26/12 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

Panasonic still cannot tell me if they have received my broken TV from their shipping company and they told me today it could be 6-8 weeks after they get it before I get my money back.
If they don't have the TV found by COB today I am having Amex pull the charge and let the two of them fight it out. I'm done with this ********. I may do it anyway. It will have been 4 months without my money back if they take all 8 weeks.
If you consider buying ANYTHING ever again from Panasonic EPP after hearing just a 1/4 of what I have gone through you are CRAZY.
It absolutely sucks that such an awesome TV is made by a company that considers this division even remotely competent. How the two sides can be part of the same organization is unbelievable.

Is there a tracking/reference number on the receipt from when it was picked up? Doesn't Panasonic have a tracking number? If they do then they should be able to see that it is in the hands of the shipper and that you are no longer responsible. Essentially, their shipper is their representative/proxy and so they have received it. Anything less is implying that you are still responsible. BS! I'd give them hell (not to say that you may not have).
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post #3526 of 12287
6/26/12 at 4:54pm
Wow, the blacks look very inky with custom settings on now.smile.gif Time to start watching some reference blu ray movies.
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post #3527 of 12287
6/26/12 at 6:03pm
Can you display the video format that the VT50 is receiving? In other words, is there a way to verify that the signal is 1080p/24 36 bit?

Thanks
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post #3528 of 12287
6/26/12 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

Wow, the blacks look very inky with custom settings on now.smile.gif Time to start watching some reference blu ray movies.
Whose custom settings did you use? I'm gonna try Topper's settings tomorrow, but I wouldn't mind another set to compare and see how it looks in my viewing room.
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post #3529 of 12287
6/26/12 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by NateDoggg View Post

Whose custom settings did you use? I'm gonna try Topper's settings tomorrow, but I wouldn't mind another set to compare and see how it looks in my viewing room.
I am using wmkiller's settings.
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post #3530 of 12287
6/26/12 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Is there a tracking/reference number on the receipt from when it was picked up? Doesn't Panasonic have a tracking number? If they do then they should be able to see that it is in the hands of the shipper and that you are no longer responsible. Essentially, their shipper is their representative/proxy and so they have received it. Anything less is implying that you are still responsible. BS! I'd give them hell (not to say that you may not have).

Apparently the shipper is as dysfunctional as Panasonic themselves.

The shipper's website has not been updated since the pickup at my house.

Panasonic does not have an internal mechanism to figure out if THEY THEMSELVES GOT IT BACK.

It doesn't matter to Panasonic that I haven't had it for 3 weeks, they only will refund me when they have it checked out they say.

I threatened to dispute it via Amex today and they told me that would make things worse.

Either they get it fixed Wednesday or I'm putting the dispute in. I should have done it 2 weeks ago probably but I've been used to their incompetence.... =(

Panasonic are an absolutely horrid horrid company to deal with if anything goes wrong, this much is clear. Regret ever placing my order with them =(
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post #3531 of 12287
6/26/12 at 8:52pm
Anyone know if a calibration by D-Nice (or any other well versed calibrator) can lower the black level beyond what we "normal folks" can? Is .002ft/l as good as it gets, and is that only post calibration? I'm wondering if D-Nice can/has figured out a way to get it even lower.
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post #3532 of 12287
6/26/12 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

I am using wmkiller's settings.

Link?
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post #3533 of 12287
6/26/12 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

At first I liked those settings but quickly realized that people had a strong yellow green tint. I am talking alien looking. Not sure what was up. I know many have been content with his settings, so must be my panel but it was obvious. Looking forward to Dewaynes settings.

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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I was talking about wmkillers settings. They just did not work for my particular set. But yeah I see it on a lesser extent in the cinema mode.

They seem decent to me. But mostly, I am not watching movies and THX Bright is on pretty often. It's adequate for the moment.
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Very true - the buzzing is inherent in the way PDP panels are constructed and operated. There are some patents out there that attempt to raise the natural frequency of the panel vibration (this is what you hear) above the normal auditory range, but I don't know if any of the current panels employ such substrate modifications.

Interesting info. It's just not really worth worrying about.
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post #3534 of 12287
6/27/12 at 4:19am
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Originally Posted by jarias2311 View Post

Ok guys stupid question...How can you check how many hours you have used the TV? Cant seem to find that anywhere..

There's a nice sticky thread over at high def junkies in the plasma section.
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post #3535 of 12287
6/27/12 at 4:44am
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I did notice some artifacts from 1080p/24 sources in 60Hz mode. On the "Digital Video Essentials" test Blu-ray we noticed shifting lines and minor instability in the downtown Philadelphia buildings during an upward-facing pan. I didn't see any similar issues during other program material, but assume they might crop up. In any case I still prefer the flicker-free 60Hz mode

As usual, the results of engaging Motion Smoother dejudder processing were objectionable to my eyes, although some viewers might actually want its soap-opera effect. If you like smooth images you may find another reason to like the VT50: its Weak setting (the least objectionable) showed fewer artifacts -- tearing and unnatural motion -- than the same setting on the GT50 and ST50 when I watched the pan over the aircraft carrier in "I Am Legend." The Medium and High settings looked basically the same on the three Panasonics.

Panasonic makes a big deal out of the improved motion-handling capabilities of its new plasmas, and the VT50 is supposedly the best. It may well be, but personally I couldn't detect any difference between the way the VT50 and the ST50 handled my motion-resolution test or fast motion in program material. During program material blurring was, as usual, extremely difficult to discern on any of the TVs in my lineup.

The VT50 passed our 1080i deinterlacing test with 3:2 pull-down set to On, but not when we used the default Auto (and, despite what the menu explanation says, this setting does affect HDMI sources).

Just to follow up on the earlier reported horizontal panning issues reported by some. David said nothing about this. His reference was to a vertical pan and did not sound like a big deal. The 3:2 pull-down setting was interesting as well.

So after my testing and coupled with what reviews I have read, the horizontal panning on the VT50 when displaying 24p content is right on par with any other top tier set to include the Sharp Elites or Kuros for that matter. A smooth 24P horizontal pan and SOE go hand in hand regardless of the brand on the set.
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post #3536 of 12287
6/27/12 at 4:59am
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Originally Posted by HAmmer32261 View Post

Link?
Mine and others are here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1410156/the-official-panasonic-vt50-settings-thread/150#post_22170459
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post #3537 of 12287
6/27/12 at 6:20am
After reading this thread for a long period.
I try to concluded into the setting below.

movie source - 1080p - 23.9fps
HD player - 24p mode on ( or maybe auto?)
VT50 - 24p mode + 96hz ( or 60Hz ?? which is better?)

In 3D movie
VT50 - 24p mode + 48Hz ( to reduce crosstalk)

Is these ok? any recommend ?
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post #3538 of 12287
6/27/12 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by archyman View Post

After reading this thread for a long period.
I try to concluded into the setting below.
movie source - 1080p - 23.9fps
HD player - 24p mode on ( or maybe auto?)
VT50 - 24p mode + 96hz ( or 60Hz ?? which is better?)
In 3D movie
VT50 - 24p mode + 48Hz ( to reduce crosstalk)
Is these ok? any recommend ?
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24p and 96hz is better, however some have reported flickering when using 96hz. If that is the case for you, then use 60hz.
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post #3539 of 12287
6/27/12 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

Picture mode Custom
Contrast 82
Brightness 52-54
Color 50
Tint 0
Sharpness 14
Color Temp Warm 1
Cats Off
Video NR Off
Aspect Adjustments
Screen Format FULL
HD Size 2 (HD Size 1 is for a 95% over scan. This eliminates some of the unwanted garbage that can sometimes be seen on the edge of the screen)
HDMI Settings leave default unless you know that something needs to be changed
Advanced Picture
These next two settings may or may not help poor content and should have little to no effect on quality content.
Block NR Off
Mosquito NR Off
Motion Smoother Weak or Off (This is the setting that causes SOE or soap opera effect. The higher you go, the worse it gets. I turn this off for bluray movies as it introduces artifacts and is not needed any way. But I do find myself using it on Weak for Sat or cable content)
Black Level Light
3:2 Pull down Auto
Items that are greyed out are that way unless you have applicable content playing
Pro Settings: Tread carefully here. These settings may or may not improve the look of your unique panel.
Color Space Normal
High R -1
Low G -4
Low B -1
W/B detail Adjustment If you do not understand this part, don't do it and leave as is. If I did not list it, its default.
10 IRE
R -1
20 IRE
R +2
B +1
40 IRE
B -1
50 IRE
R +1
G +2
60 IRE
B +1
90 IRE
R -2
B +1
100 IRE
R -1
B -1
Rest are default
Green Hue +4
Red Sat -4
Green Sat -4
Yellow Sat -1
Rest are default
Black Extension 0
Gamma adjustment 2.4
Panel Brightness Mid
Contour Emphasis Off
AGC Off
Please let me know what you think. Thanks

Hey Topper - do you have your receiver plugged into HDMI 1 or HDMI 2? HDMI 1 says "AV in" and HDMI 2 says "ARC". What's the deal with those? Is one faster than another? Thanks.
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post #3540 of 12287
6/27/12 at 7:45am
Nate,

ARC refers to audio return channel which is a technology that allows the audio coming from the display to go to your receiver/preamp. For instance, you download netflix using your VT50 and you want the audio to go to your receiver/preamp, this is one of the ways for it to get there.
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