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post #3841 of 13486
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Originally Posted by CatBrat View Post

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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post


For anyone seeing problems with their new TV (any brand or model), I'd recommend comparing to your old set side by side and deciding from there.

Shortly after I got my TV, I thought my black levels were too black, and detail was missing. Then I compared my old TV with my new TV, and they were the same (but not as black, of course). I have a bigger TV now and it was just more noticeable. The bigger set seems to magnify all of the existing problems. Not a problem with the TV, just my perception of the problems.

Thanks to you guys for reinforcing what I have been trying to get across. Sometimes it takes hearing it from multiple reliable people for it to sink in. I know how helpful info like this is to people that are feeling unsure about a big new purchase. I have been in the same boat more than once. smile.gif

Real world comparisons such as your experience at the theater with Ice Age 4 really help in better understanding the world of film with all its mysterious nuances.

To sum things up folks. The entire Panasonic line is in the spotlight of having the best picture out there for a reason. The only thing I have found less than ideal is their ability to spruce up a poor signal. I might give the nod to Sammy in that area. But when you feed these puppies good content they perform as advertised.
Edited by TopperMcFly - 7/6/12 at 3:10pm
post #3842 of 13486
Hi,

I backup all my blu rays to usb HDD, does anyone know if the 55vt50 is capable of playing blu ray movies from an external HDD?

Thanks
post #3843 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Manifesto1969 View Post

Hi,
I backup all my blu rays to usb HDD, does anyone know if the 55vt50 is capable of playing blu ray movies from an external HDD?
Thanks

I was able to play back some mkv's from my friends GT50, but I did run into a few mkv's where the audio wasn't supported. To fix the problem you can mux the mkx using a program called mkvtovob, it used mostly for the ps3.
post #3844 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Joxer View Post

Could just be source crosstalk problems with that 3D title, I've seen that on a few scenes only a specific title and appeared to be the fault of the source.
Reviewers also have noted crosstalk only in certain scenes in a 3D title like Hugo for example that happens on most or all 3D TVs.

Wouldn't source crosstalk problems show up on the passive LG 3DTV too? Or do I misunderstand what source crosstalk means?
post #3845 of 13486
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

I just checked this out on my 65VT50 and when they come around the corner after leaving the courtroom there is blur. It's camera blur as the camera is not resolving the motion. the background is crystal clear. The wall, the base board, the floor, the windows and what's outside the window is very sharp and clear. Once they turn the corner and walk toward the camera they become clear. The men with the briefcases walking across the screen are blurred but again it's the source.
Mine is set at 96hz with all other enhancement off. I am using ISF Day which is based on the Custom mode.
I turned on a setting on my blu-ray player last night that may have helped called 'Deep Color'. Anyone got any information on this setting/feature? Does the VT50 support it? Is having it on beneficial? Thanks.
post #3846 of 13486
I know that most of you don't use the 3d feature of your VT50s very much, if at all, but I'm looking for some help from anyone who does.

I found a good deal on the Avatar + 2 glasses 3D pack and it arrived today. I also picked up a Panasonic 3d Blu-Ray player (BDT210 model I believe) and have been trying for the past 45 minutes to get a 3D image working with my 55VT50 and these glasses. I realize now after reading some reviews that the glasses that come with this kit are last year's model, but I would assume that they should still work with the 2012 plasmas, correct? I have tried tons of settings, I'm using THX Cinema 3D mode, tried both 48 and 60hz options, tried manually adjusting the amount of 3d "pop" and all other settings I could find, and no matter what I've tried the glasses do not seem to be getting the control signa, and they stop blinking (turn off) after 5 minutes. I don't have anything obstructing the bezel of the TV, so I can't imagine the signal is being blocked, and I'm sitting 6-8 feet in front of the TV dead center. The TV is clearly displaying both 3D images since I can see the blurring/doubling on the screen, but I can't seem to get the glasses to pick up the infrared signal and activate the active shutter.

Does anyone have any other ideas, or could any of you confirm that the prior generation of glasses should still work with the VT50. The model I'm using is TY-EW3D2MU. Thanks in advance.
post #3847 of 13486
Those glassese that came with the Avatar bundle do not work with the vt50
post #3848 of 13486
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Originally Posted by xxurdonexx View Post


General question: Which cable is better: A HDMI cable with a ferrite core or a thicker HDMI cable with no ferrite core?

HDMI is digital.

Dig-i-tal.

If there are no dropouts, sparklies or obvious noise in your feed, the cable is not the problem.

Seriously.

It isn't.

OK?

I don't mean to be rude. Or schoolmarmish. Or pedantic. But the HDMI cable is not the problem.

If you see the picture and (a) there are no dropouts (missing chunks of video) (b) there are no "sparklies" (a common HDMI problem where little flashes occur on the screen; you'll know it when you see it) and (c) there is no old-school video noise (really really rare on HDMI, but possible since any wire is an antenna), the cable is fine.

Buy a halfway decent cable from Monoprice and you're set. And stop thinking it's the HDMI cable.
post #3849 of 13486
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Originally Posted by zorkwiz View Post

I know that most of you don't use the 3d feature of your VT50s very much, if at all, but I'm looking for some help from anyone who does.
I found a good deal on the Avatar + 2 glasses 3D pack and it arrived today. I also picked up a Panasonic 3d Blu-Ray player (BDT210 model I believe) and have been trying for the past 45 minutes to get a 3D image working with my 55VT50 and these glasses. I realize now after reading some reviews that the glasses that come with this kit are last year's model, but I would assume that they should still work with the 2012 plasmas, correct? I have tried tons of settings, I'm using THX Cinema 3D mode, tried both 48 and 60hz options, tried manually adjusting the amount of 3d "pop" and all other settings I could find, and no matter what I've tried the glasses do not seem to be getting the control signa, and they stop blinking (turn off) after 5 minutes. I don't have anything obstructing the bezel of the TV, so I can't imagine the signal is being blocked, and I'm sitting 6-8 feet in front of the TV dead center. The TV is clearly displaying both 3D images since I can see the blurring/doubling on the screen, but I can't seem to get the glasses to pick up the infrared signal and activate the active shutter.
Does anyone have any other ideas, or could any of you confirm that the prior generation of glasses should still work with the VT50. The model I'm using is TY-EW3D2MU. Thanks in advance.

No the older 3D glasses are incompatible with the 2012 Panasonic plasmas.
The previous years, they used infrared between the TV and the 3D glasses, the new models use Bluetooth (RF) - totally different.
You might be able to sell the older infrared 3D glasses on ebay to someone who has a 2011 Panasonic plasma like a ST30, GT30, or VT30.

However you can buy the cheaper $20 new Samsung 3D glasses that use bluetooth - they are compatible with the 2012 Panasonic plasmas and use a cheap replaceable coin battery.
post #3850 of 13486
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

HDMI is digital.
Dig-i-tal.
If there are no dropouts, sparklies or obvious noise in your feed, the cable is not the problem.
Seriously.
It isn't.
OK?
I don't mean to be rude. Or schoolmarmish. Or pedantic. But the HDMI cable is not the problem.
If you see the picture and (a) there are no dropouts (missing chunks of video) (b) there are no "sparklies" (a common HDMI problem where little flashes occur on the screen; you'll know it when you see it) and (c) there is no old-school video noise (really really rare on HDMI, but possible since any wire is an antenna), the cable is fine.
Buy a halfway decent cable from Monoprice and you're set. And stop thinking it's the HDMI cable.
Just using process of elimination. Thanks.
post #3851 of 13486
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers View Post

It's too bad the tv couldn't have some type of subtle alarm built in that recognizes a static image (i.e. logo) for a certain period of time (say .. over 2 hours) that would caution you against permanent burn in if you continue past the alarm point.
I mean, it's a concern of some plasma owners, why not incorporate it as a switchable option.
Issues of burn in are rare. If you are mixing up your content one would very unlucky to have an issue. remember image retention goes away wink.gif
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Those glassese that came with the Avatar bundle do not work with the vt50
Correct, those glasses work on the 30 series and earlier model.
post #3852 of 13486
Thanks guys.. I guess I should have done more research before assuming that all Panasonic glasses would be compatible.... Joxer, could you let me kno the model number of the Samsung glasses you're referring to? Are the New 3rd gen Panny glasses much better?
post #3853 of 13486
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Originally Posted by xxurdonexx View Post

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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

HDMI is digital.
Dig-i-tal.
If there are no dropouts, sparklies or obvious noise in your feed, the cable is not the problem.
Seriously.
It isn't.
OK?
I don't mean to be rude. Or schoolmarmish. Or pedantic. But the HDMI cable is not the problem.
If you see the picture and (a) there are no dropouts (missing chunks of video) (b) there are no "sparklies" (a common HDMI problem where little flashes occur on the screen; you'll know it when you see it) and (c) there is no old-school video noise (really really rare on HDMI, but possible since any wire is an antenna), the cable is fine.
Buy a halfway decent cable from Monoprice and you're set. And stop thinking it's the HDMI cable.
Just using process of elimination. Thanks.

As once told to me, Rogo is an acquired taste. What he meant to say is "Allow me to assist you in your troubleshooting by informing you that HDMI or High Definition Multimedia Interface is digital and not analog. It either works or does not work. If you have a picture then the cable is doing its job. I hope this helps and wish you the best of luck in your endeavor".

Seriously, that's what he said. wink.gif

So to speak further about what this calibrator told you. I am extremely suspect of his report to you regarding another VT50 that does not exhibit trouble with panning as yours does. I have to think he did not properly duplicate this phenomenon bit for bit. What troubles me even more is that he is an actual calibrator. If anyone should be trusted to provide a professional opinion of this issue, it should come from such a person. So sure it is plausible if only remotely that there is some defect in a percentage of 2012 Panny plasmas that cause pans to look even worse than the rest of the free world. But I am not buying it.

I STRONGLY suggest that you take the source media that you observed the offending pan to view on another set. I would not even bother with another VT50 because you will find that it will be exactly the same if you set it up exactly as yours is. Try a Samsung or something and make sure that all gimmicky motion smoothing is turned off. I will bet you a Pint that you will see exactly what you see on your set.

If I am wrong, I am happy to eat my words. But seriously, try it. If anything it will put your mind at ease either way. GL and let us know how it goes. smile.gif
post #3854 of 13486
I am getting VT50 calibrated tomorrow from Bestbuy and wondering if I should look out for something when he/she is calibrating the tv? anything specific to bring to their attention when it comes to calibration?

Thanks
post #3855 of 13486
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Originally Posted by zorkwiz View Post

Thanks guys.. I guess I should have done more research before assuming that all Panasonic glasses would be compatible.... Joxer, could you let me kno the model number of the Samsung glasses you're referring to? Are the New 3rd gen Panny glasses much better?

I sold two pair of 2011 glasses on Ebay for $170. They should sell. You may not have the exact kind that came with the VT30s but they should sell either way. Good luck
post #3856 of 13486
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

For anyone seeing problems with their new TV (any brand or model), I'd recommend comparing to your old set side by side and deciding from there.
That is vey good advice. I did a side-by-side comparison with a 2011 65" VT and my 2008 TH-50PZ850U... Sent the VT back. Now I own a 2009 65" TH-65PZ850U and am very, very happy.

Still keeping tabs on current tech though, that's why I'm here. IF Panasonic would just put a little more juice into their new sets and bring up the brightness on full panel whites I'd be a gonner for a newer TV but I don't just watch dark stuff.
post #3857 of 13486
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Originally Posted by curiousdude View Post

I am getting VT50 calibrated tomorrow from Bestbuy and wondering if I should look out for something when he/she is calibrating the tv? anything specific to bring to their attention when it comes to calibration?
Thanks

I'm going to assume that their software isn't capable of accessing the ISF modes and that the calibration will be in the Custom mode. Make sure that both the grayscale and the Color Management System are calibrated. Ask for a before/after calibration report. Just for a test when finished, ask if he calibrated the color luminance for the available six colors and report here.
post #3858 of 13486
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

I'm going to assume that their software isn't capable of accessing the ISF modes and that the calibration will be in the Custom mode. Make sure that both the grayscale and the Color Management System are calibrated. Ask for a before/after calibration report. Just for a test when finished, ask if he calibrated the color luminance for the available six colors and report here.

Thanks for the reply. I made a note of everything you stated in your post and I'll make sure to bring them up during calibration.
post #3859 of 13486
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

I just checked this out on my 65VT50 and when they come around the corner after leaving the courtroom there is blur. It's camera blur as the camera is not resolving the motion. the background is crystal clear. The wall, the base board, the floor, the windows and what's outside the window is very sharp and clear. Once they turn the corner and walk toward the camera they become clear. The men with the briefcases walking across the screen are blurred but again it's the source.
Mine is set at 96hz with all other enhancement off. I am using ISF Day which is based on the Custom mode.
This to me is a very crucial thing to consider for anyone doing critical evaluation. Know your source material!
post #3860 of 13486
Hey guys,

I'm a new owner of a 65VT50 and I have a question about the Eco setting. Is there a way to disable it all together? When I go into the menu and choose Setup and then ECO/energy saving, there is an option called Power Save. The description is "reduces screen brightness to lower power consumption." It only allows either standard or saving. Is there not a way to choose off?

Another thing, it seems to me that the whites just aren't quite white. Maybe I have some settings wrong but there's like a yellow tint to the whites even when I have the color tone set to cool 1. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Btw, when I have an all white background on the tv, for example, the new assassins creed 3 wallpaper for the ps3. The whites just don't look white. But as soon as I press the Menu button on the remote, VIOLA!!! The whites are white! After I press menu again and it goes away, that damn yellow tint shows up again. Maybe I'm just crazy but maybe someone else can try this with a white background and tell me if they see the same thing. Thanks
post #3861 of 13486
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

The description is "reduces screen brightness to lower power consumption." It only allows either standard or saving. Is there not a way to choose off?
I don't own a VT50 but "standard" should be the equivalent of "off".
post #3862 of 13486
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Originally Posted by zorkwiz View Post

Thanks guys.. I guess I should have done more research before assuming that all Panasonic glasses would be compatible.... Joxer, could you let me kno the model number of the Samsung glasses you're referring to? Are the New 3rd gen Panny glasses much better?

Here is an excellent recent CNET review article comparing the 2012 Samsung and Panasonic bluetooth 3D glasses with lots of info:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57441520-221/sorta-universal-active-3d-tv-glasses-compared/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title
post #3863 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Joxer View Post

Here is an excellent recent CNET review article comparing the 2012 Samsung and Panasonic bluetooth 3D glasses with lots of info:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57441520-221/sorta-universal-active-3d-tv-glasses-compared/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title

Thanks for that link. I got the 2012 Panasonic glasses and they are very comfortable and very light. Sync right up without issues...
post #3864 of 13486
I had the same issue thinking my old Fujitsu plasma looked better than the vt50 while watching wimbledon. The panning was making it tough and I had never noticed this issue on my old plasma. I watched the same match and realized a few things that are obvious to me now.

1. the picture on the vt50 is waaayyy better but I can see the flaws too due to larger size and new, better PQ.
2. I was used to the old TV and so understanding what I was looking at took some time. New TV syndrome
3. the panning issue was less obvious on the Fujitsu because clarity of the whole picture was not nearly as good but it was actually still there.

My eyes and mind were definitely used to the old picture and just playing tricks on me. I thought about returning this set a few times as I have already returned the 60" elite due to off angle viewing and the Sammy D8000. I am glad I didn't as it is now broken in and looks great.
post #3865 of 13486
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Hey guys,
I'm a new owner of a 65VT50 and I have a question about the Eco setting. Is there a way to disable it all together? When I go into the menu and choose Setup and then ECO/energy saving, there is an option called Power Save. The description is "reduces screen brightness to lower power consumption." It only allows either standard or saving. Is there not a way to choose off?
Another thing, it seems to me that the whites just aren't quite white. Maybe I have some settings wrong but there's like a yellow tint to the whites even when I have the color tone set to cool 1. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Btw, when I have an all white background on the tv, for example, the new assassins creed 3 wallpaper for the ps3. The whites just don't look white. But as soon as I press the Menu button on the remote, VIOLA!!! The whites are white! After I press menu again and it goes away, that damn yellow tint shows up again. Maybe I'm just crazy but maybe someone else can try this with a white background and tell me if they see the same thing. Thanks

When you press menu, 2/3 of the screen gets a grey overlay. That's going to allow the remaining 1/3 of the screen to be whiter than it would be without the menu. I will tell you that when my screen is all white, it's not exceptionally bright, but I dispute it's "yellow" at all. I'm quite positive the ABL kicks in every single time the screen is filled with a mostly white image and this would bother me a lot more if most of those weren't TV commercials.
post #3866 of 13486
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Originally Posted by dsmoler View Post

I had the same issue thinking my old Fujitsu plasma looked better than the vt50 while watching wimbledon. The panning was making it tough and I had never noticed this issue on my old plasma. I watched the same match and realized a few things that are obvious to me now.

1. the picture on the vt50 is waaayyy better but I can see the flaws too due to larger size and new, better PQ.
2. I was used to the old TV and so understanding what I was looking at took some time. New TV syndrome
3. the panning issue was less obvious on the Fujitsu because clarity of the whole picture was not nearly as good but it was actually still there.

My eyes and mind were definitely used to the old picture and just playing tricks on me. I thought about returning this set a few times as I have already returned the 60" elite due to off angle viewing and the Sammy D8000. I am glad I didn't as it is now broken in and looks great.

Great observations. Thanks for the input and welcome!
post #3867 of 13486
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Originally Posted by dsmoler View Post

I had the same issue thinking my old Fujitsu plasma looked better than the vt50 while watching wimbledon. The panning was making it tough and I had never noticed this issue on my old plasma. I watched the same match and realized a few things that are obvious to me now.
1. the picture on the vt50 is waaayyy better but I can see the flaws too due to larger size and new, better PQ.
2. I was used to the old TV and so understanding what I was looking at took some time. New TV syndrome
3. the panning issue was less obvious on the Fujitsu because clarity of the whole picture was not nearly as good but it was actually still there.
My eyes and mind were definitely used to the old picture and just playing tricks on me. I thought about returning this set a few times as I have already returned the 60" elite due to off angle viewing and the Sammy D8000. I am glad I didn't as it is now broken in and looks great.
I can't get on board with this whole "the picture quality is so good that I notice the flaws more" ideal. Sure, a $3,400 TV is gonna look better for Blu-ray than a $1,000 TV. However, most people watch TV the vast majority of the time, not movies. A panning issue being less obvious is a good thing. A new tv with "better" PQ (not to mention costs a **** load of $$$) should not have flaws or panning issues. Am I crazy?

Have the VT50 and the HDTV looks weird to me (peoples faces. like as if i'm seeing a glare on their face even though its nighttime and my room is completely dark). I had the 60'' GT50 (returned) and did not like it. I also did not like the 60" LG plasma (returned) before that. Does it look weird/bad to me because I'm used to LCD and DLP? I will be finishing the slides on the VT50 in the new couple of days and then will use calibrated settings that are available until D-Nice finally posts his.
post #3868 of 13486
Hi All,

I posted a week or so ago and had all my concerns addressed save one. I'm now satisfied that my panel is not defective where black levels, buzzing, or line bleed are concerned. But I still wonder at one last thing that I asked about. A strange effect while in 24fps 96Hz mode (2D). . .

Since I made that original post, I've read this entire thread (over several evenings of bleary eyes and lots of coffee). Though there have been mentions of "judder" issues, I was only able to isolate two other posts that I'm confident are describing what I'm seeing. Here they are. . .
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Originally Posted by korn646 View Post

With the contrast dialed down there is not much flicker at all in 96hz mode, and the motion does look good. I did notice something odd, watching Game of Thrones you could see a red "hue" of sorts blurring into the outline of actors' faces during fast moment across the screen. Seemed to go away when back in 60hz so i've settled there again. Weird.
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Originally Posted by serpentara View Post

Ok here is one for you guys: If I am watching a 24p source at 96 hz and I move my head to the left or right quickly or at least flick my eyes back and fourth quickly, I see a rainbow of colors on the screen. Its like the image separates into its constituent colors. It looks a little like the "rainbow" effect that people who owned DLP rear projection tvs talked about. It also seems to happen sometimes on fast pans. Anyone else experience this? Its not really noticeable on 60hz content, though I have been watching more blu-rays than anything these days.
I don't really notice a flicker at 96 hz unless the screen has a white background.

Here's my original description. . .
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Originally Posted by Hurin View Post

24fps/96Hz Issue? - While testing blu-ray playback, I was disappointed by a strange artifact that I noticed in Gladiator (blu-ray). While Maximus is speaking with Marcus Aurelius (MA), right before MA says "I brought the sword, nothing more," MA stand and walks screen right. As he does so, his face becomes blurred completely and there is a hint of a purple and/or yellow mess in all the fuzziness. This only happens if I am using 96Hz refresh. I've heard of flicker and other such things, but not anything like this. 24fps from my Sony blu-ray is a new-fangled thing for me and I was hoping to make use of it with 96Hz though I've read elsewhere that many prefer 60Hz. Is this sort of thing why? Is this a known issue with the set? Or is this an indicator of a problem unique to mine? I have not seen it happen anywhere else. But I will likely just use 60Hz and write off 96Hz if I'm told this is just the nature of the 96Hz beast.

I am not in a position to try to replicate this on another TV since my old TV is a CRT-based RPTV which can't do 96Hz. So, can some folks with the Gladiator Blu-Ray (either revision will work, I own and have tried both) please try to replicate the behavior described above? The best example I have isolated is at 23 minutes, 15 seconds into the film. Watch as Marcus Aurelius stands and he moves screen right. As he does so, his face becomes a mangled mess of purple and yellow contour artifacts. You should see it before he says: "I brought the sword, nothing more." Once you hear that line, you've gone too far. smile.gif

I'm not looking to prove there is a flaw in the VT50 series. Though I'm disappointed that this behavior may keep me away from the 96Hz mode that I was coveting, it's not a deal-breaker. But with my 30-day return policy expiring soon, I would very much like to have this final concern put to rest so that I can relax and fully begin enjoying my TV without any worry (I'm nearly there!).

Incidentally, I've found that other horizontal pans look quite good. So I don't think I have an overall "judder" problem. Rather I seem to be noticing a 96Hz 24fps "false contouring" issue that I had read was unlikely to still be an issue on the VT50 (the CNet review stats that prior models' 96Hz-related artifacts were no longer evident in the VT50).

If someone (or possibly a few someones!) could please check out that Gladiator scene and report back their 96Hz/24fps findings (no motion smoothing -- wouldn't want it for blu-rays!), I'd be very grateful!

Thanks!

--H

(I was able to reproduce the behavior with both a Sony S350 and a Panasonic BDT-220 blu-ray player)
post #3869 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Hurin View Post

I'm not looking to prove there is a flaw in the VT50 series. Though I'm disappointed that this behavior may keep me away from the 96Hz mode that I was coveting, it's not a deal-breaker. But with my 30-day return policy expiring soon, I would very much like to have this final concern put to rest so that I can relax and fully begin enjoying my TV without any worry (I'm nearly there!).
If you keep searching real hard I am sure you will find other issues. No matter what set you buy they are not perfect, as they are made by imperfect beings. Is this issue only happening on the one movie? If so the source material may be corrupt.
post #3870 of 13486
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Originally Posted by xxurdonexx View Post

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Originally Posted by dsmoler View Post

I had the same issue thinking my old Fujitsu plasma looked better than the vt50 while watching wimbledon. The panning was making it tough and I had never noticed this issue on my old plasma. I watched the same match and realized a few things that are obvious to me now.
1. the picture on the vt50 is waaayyy better but I can see the flaws too due to larger size and new, better PQ.
2. I was used to the old TV and so understanding what I was looking at took some time. New TV syndrome
3. the panning issue was less obvious on the Fujitsu because clarity of the whole picture was not nearly as good but it was actually still there.
My eyes and mind were definitely used to the old picture and just playing tricks on me. I thought about returning this set a few times as I have already returned the 60" elite due to off angle viewing and the Sammy D8000. I am glad I didn't as it is now broken in and looks great.
I can't get on board with this whole "the picture quality is so good that I notice the flaws more" ideal. Sure, a $3,400 TV is gonna look better for Blu-ray than a $1,000 TV. However, most people watch TV the vast majority of the time, not movies. A panning issue being less obvious is a good thing. A new tv with "better" PQ (not to mention costs a **** load of $$$) should not have flaws or panning issues. Am I crazy?

Have the VT50 and the HDTV looks weird to me (peoples faces. like as if i'm seeing a glare on their face even though its nighttime and my room is completely dark). I had the 60'' GT50 (returned) and did not like it. I also did not like the 60" LG plasma (returned) before that. Does it look weird/bad to me because I'm used to LCD and DLP? I will be finishing the slides on the VT50 in the new couple of days and then will use calibrated settings that are available until D-Nice finally posts his.

The panning is not going to get better regardless of how much money you threw at it unless you use frame interpolation. Just the way it is.

The problem you are seeing with faces sounds like just bad settings. Skin tones are perfect on mine. I had the VT30 and I got way off on my settings and they looked just like you are describing. Try some other settings like mine and report back. That issue is fully correctable.
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