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post #5371 of 13460
Technical Support:

I can't get the TV to output audio to my Processor Integra 80.3 when I am using VIERA Connect. All my other external componets are out sourcing the sound to the processor fine.

I set the VIERA Link settings to Theater from the main Menu, but no dice. I also notice when on youtube I pull up the sub menu for the TV and it still indicates the the speakers are set for TV and I can't change it because it's all grayed out. Any advice?
post #5372 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

Between my girlfriend and I, the NBC Olympic broadcast have been on literally ALL DAY. Zero sign of IR on my VT50. I think you're over-doing it.
EDIT: here's a picture of my cat enjoying beach volleyball.

My current plasma has zero IR no matter what I through at it or how long I have a static image on the screen. I expected a plasma made over 4 years later to also have as good or better IR prevention compared to my set. No offense, but I don't think that's over doing it.

That's good to know though about your set and it gives me hope without a doubt as I make a decision this week on what to do. Have you tried games on it? If so, how did it fair IR wise? Thanks in advance.
post #5373 of 13460
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Originally Posted by YES90125 View Post

Technical Support:
I can't get the TV to output audio to my Processor Integra 80.3 when I am using VIERA Connect. All my other external componets are out sourcing the sound to the processor fine.
I set the VIERA Link settings to Theater from the main Menu, but no dice. I also notice when on youtube I pull up the sub menu for the TV and it still indicates the the speakers are set for TV and I can't change it because it's all grayed out. Any advice?

Is HDMI control set to "on" on the Integra, and is the Integra set to the TV input?
post #5374 of 13460
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

You pull the emotion card all the time, yet you don't even realize you are just as guilty. And if you hear similar opinions all the time, there is prolly a reason for that. I never apologize for my passion. So that makes me laugh. So the great part is that we are both laughing. What's better than that? But with all due respect, please save your breath on the life advice. Let's talk tech and leave it at that. For someone who doesn't take sides on little things, you are pretty one sided when it comes to your beliefs on what is reasonable and what isn't. As long as the hypocritical talk continues, so will our inability to get along. Don't get me wrong, I find myself overly biased all the time over stupid stuff. But I will admit it in the end and offer my hand every single time.
I do give you credit for the hardware agnostic comment. I like that. I program in red hat and it is old school cool and I love it.
Cnet actually bases product placement on whether or not the item includes airplay. They are one of the most biased folks around in terms of pushing apple. Airplay is pretty and well thought out. It just isn't a must have.
The inability to customize the Viera apps is actually very Apple like. It works but you have no say on anything else.
I would love an Android based VT! biggrin.gif

i think that sometimes we just need a product that works and looks good.(yes for some look is important)
Linux is the king in regards to customization, but most of the users find all the option unnecessary and confusing.
That's why apple wins and makes things simple and user friendly. I personally use all systems and love linux the most, but in the end I want simple stuff that just works.
This gives me more free time for other tweaks smile.gif
post #5375 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Gas0linE View Post

One other question. After initial break in is it safe to watch letterbox movies? Can the black bars cause bad ir?

Yes any Plasma over time will have some IR, if for the most part you view letter box.

ss
post #5376 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Gas0linE View Post

One other question. After initial break in is it safe to watch letterbox movies? Can the black bars cause bad ir?
Haven't seen any instance of IR from black bars, its the opposite bright white text/logos that seem to cause some temporary IR.
But use the scrolling bar regularly as needed if you spot any IR.
I've only noticed some IR if I check on one of the darker full screen slides, not regular video content.
If I see any from say a bright white logo on the dark gray slide, I just run the scrolling white bar for 15min or so to clean it up.
post #5377 of 13460
Some one should smack the person who thought of putting up TV station logos
post #5378 of 13460
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Originally Posted by blwegrzyn View Post

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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post


i think that sometimes we just need a product that works and looks good.(yes for some look is important)
Linux is the king in regards to customization, but most of the users find all the option unnecessary and confusing.
That's why apple wins and makes things simple and user friendly. I personally use all systems and love linux the most, but in the end I want simple stuff that just works.
This gives me more free time for other tweaks smile.gif

100% reasonable statement that I totally agree with. Once figuring out how to ditch iTunes (which I think is a bad joke) we love our itouch. My iPhone was silky smooth and never failed, but allowed no customization and was far too small for my needs out in the field. But the hardware they put out is top notch. I hope Mr. Jobs left the company in capable hands. That was one smart guy.

So no offence to Apple fans from previous statements intended. Its just not for me as a one stop shop.

Very funny kitty pic btw tempest! Setup looks good as well.
post #5379 of 13460
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Some one should smack the person who thought of putting up TV station logos

+1
post #5380 of 13460
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Some one should smack the person who thought of putting up TV station logos

+1

+1000000
post #5381 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Sean_S View Post

The damned thing would not let me access the apps unless I took the update.

Can somebody verify this? I haven't enabled the internet connection yet, but I am planning to.

If so, I notice there is an option to turn off notification of new firmware releases. Using this option, does this allow access to the apps without the requirement to accept the update?

jdg
Edited by JohnDG - 8/6/12 at 8:14am
post #5382 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

Between my girlfriend and I, the NBC Olympic broadcast have been on literally ALL DAY. Zero sign of IR on my VT50. I think you're over-doing it.
Yes, that is what we generally notice with all plasma's.
post #5383 of 13460
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

I notice there is an option to turn off notification of new firmware releases. Using this option, does this allow access to the apps without the requirement to accept the update?jdg

I have subsequently disabled the notification. My assumption is "yes", but I have no proof.

Maybe those who have never seen the update prompt have it disabled????
post #5384 of 13460
I have never noticed any requirement to accept an update. You just have the option.
post #5385 of 13460
It required the update for you to access the apps--if I answered 'no' it exited the apps area. However, I may have gotten around this by changing the notification option in the menu. My mistake was assuming that the update was only for the apps/VieraCast/whatever it's called. It's a little bit misleading.
post #5386 of 13460
FWIW the ST50 demo set where I work is running NBC's olympics coverage whenever it's on and is in full-tilt torch mode--no IR or Burn In. The set was in use for a month or so before the olympics started (fed by a Dish HD box) so it was "broken in" before the olympics started.
post #5387 of 13460
Just wanted to update my fellow forum members on my findings with the Onkyo NR818, and its HQV Vida and the Marvell Qdeo dual VP chipset, after a couple of weeks of use with the VT50. I have Xfinity btw,

1) GIGO is a 100% true; SD channels still look like crap, no matter how much I tried to 'tweak' the picture. I noticed I could make things look sharp at the expense of noise and artifacts. Motion on crappy channels looks the least affected by video processing. Stationary images can be coaxed into looking better, crisper and sharper.
2) NOTICEABLE difference with HD channels, especially with motion. We have been running video through the Onkyo for the past 2 weeks, and had gotten accustomed to the sharper cleaner image. Reality bit when I took the receiver out of the system for a trouble-shooting session last night. The same Olympics Track and Field signal looked noticeably worse without the VP, even more so with motion. The Men's 100M was decidedly hazier on the re-run without the Onkyo than with the Onkyo. I suspected placebo effect, till my wife said the exact same thing, without any prodding whatsoever.

The TV is great, not perfect, but great. I am very happy. However, having said that a good deinterlacer/scaler does yield better results. The Onkyo NR818 has superb video capabilities, and if anyone has 800 bucks lying around, I think it is a great investment. The improvement in picture is not even close to the best thing about the receiver. I'm so hooked to the sound, that I am already thinking of upgrading to its biggest, baddest elder sib, the TX-NR5009! smile.gif

PS: I have not been following the thread for the past week, and it has seemingly exploded. I don't know if the above has been discussed or not. Sorry if it has.
post #5388 of 13460
I'm going to break my set in using Disney Blu rays. My daughter loves Bolt. I'll pry put that one on repeat all day. I'm excited to get my set. I came from a 55 inch Samsung ES8000 LED and was getting fed up with the horrible blacks and night time viewing. I love to watch movies in the pitch dark and want really good color saturation and a nice vibrant picture with deep blacks. The ES8000 was not doing it for me. It looked really washed out and blacks were terrible. I'm pretty sure this 65" VT50 will win me over. My set is scheduled to arrive on Thursday.
Edited by Gas0linE - 8/6/12 at 11:05am
post #5389 of 13460
the latest firmware is 1.150, right?
post #5390 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Steve S View Post

FWIW the ST50 demo set where I work is running NBC's olympics coverage whenever it's on and is in full-tilt torch mode--no IR or Burn In. The set was in use for a month or so before the olympics started (fed by a Dish HD box) so it was "broken in" before the olympics started.
do you work at sears?
post #5391 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Rashid81 View Post

Just wanted to update my fellow forum members on my findings with the Onkyo NR818, and its HQV Vida and the Marvell Qdeo dual VP chipset, after a couple of weeks of use with the VT50. I have Xfinity btw,

1) GIGO is a 100% true; SD channels still look like crap, no matter how much I tried to 'tweak' the picture. I noticed I could make things look sharp at the expense of noise and artifacts. Motion on crappy channels looks the least affected by video processing. Stationary images can be coaxed into looking better, crisper and sharper.
2) NOTICEABLE difference with HD channels, especially with motion. We have been running video through the Onkyo for the past 2 weeks, and had gotten accustomed to the sharper cleaner image. Reality bit when I took the receiver out of the system for a trouble-shooting session last night. The same Olympics Track and Field signal looked noticeably worse without the VP, even more so with motion. The Men's 100M was decidedly hazier on the re-run without the Onkyo than with the Onkyo. I suspected placebo effect, till my wife said the exact same thing, without any prodding whatsoever.

The TV is great, not perfect, but great. I am very happy. However, having said that a good deinterlacer/scaler does yield better results. The Onkyo NR818 has superb video capabilities, and if anyone has 800 bucks lying around, I think it is a great investment. The improvement in picture is not even close to the best thing about the receiver. I'm so hooked to the sound, that I am already thinking of upgrading to its biggest, baddest elder sib, the TX-NR5009! smile.gif

PS: I have not been following the thread for the past week, and it has seemingly exploded. I don't know if the above has been discussed or not. Sorry if it has.

First the bad news, It is now back to $1200 and has been there's for a few days now.

The good news is that I got mine at $850. Now I have to agree with your assessment of the video 100%. I too find crap to still look like crap. But this little wonder does in fact make for sharper quality content. I still think the vt50 does a great job of producing a very clean and true picture. With that said, I do prefer the sharper look that the 818 provides. But it is not without some minor drawbacks. I am sure you have noticed that text is a bit jaggy even when edge enhance is on low. I assume that is what you are using. If I am mistaken and you are not using edge enhance at all, I would have to scratch my head a bit, as I do not see a difference in pq with it off even with noise reduction on. So I would love to hear what your settings are.

But yeah, the video capabilities of this unit are top shelf and am very glad I returned the green duo. I think any TV out there would benefit from this gem. Not to mention the audio quality is sublime.
post #5392 of 13460
I've spent a lot of time with my vt50 this weekend and here is my findings vs the 70 inch elite I had. Going from the 65 to 70 was not a big seal to me I site 8.5 feet away so it still looks big. Black levels are very good on both and look the same at least 90% the same or more. The only time I can see the difference is with the room 100% black and a very dark scene then the elite has the upper hand but only in the sweat spot. The color and saturation of the vt is much better. The motion on the elite was good but the vt is in another class, I
Have been using the 96hz mode and I love it. The elites light output is much better but I have a dark room and it's a non issue. 1080p content looks cleaner on the vt to me but 1080i content looked sharper on the elite but not much. The 3d on the vt in 60hz mode is not very good but in 48hz it has less crosstalk then the elite and the motion is much better but the light output on the elite is great for 3d. All in all Im very happy about my choice going to the vt.
post #5393 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

I've spent a lot of time with my vt50 this weekend and here is my findings vs the 70 inch elite I had. Going from the 65 to 70 was not a big seal to me I site 8.5 feet away so it still looks big. Black levels are very good on both and look the same at least 90% the same or more. The only time I can see the difference is with the room 100% black and a very dark scene then the elite has the upper hand but only in the sweat spot. The color and saturation of the vt is much better. The motion on the elite was good but the vt is in another class, I
Have been using the 96hz mode and I love it. The elites light output is much better but I have a dark room and it's a non issue. 1080p content looks cleaner on the vt to me but 1080i content looked sharper on the elite but not much. The 3d on the vt in 60hz mode is not very good but in 48hz it has less crosstalk then the elite and the motion is much better but the light output on the elite is great for 3d. All in all Im very happy about my choice going to the vt.

Sounds very promising! My 65" arrives Thursday! Can't wait. I have to pick up some 3D glasses today or tomorrow.
post #5394 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

I've spent a lot of time with my vt50 this weekend and here is my findings vs the 70 inch elite I had. Going from the 65 to 70 was not a big seal to me I site 8.5 feet away so it still looks big. Black levels are very good on both and look the same at least 90% the same or more. The only time I can see the difference is with the room 100% black and a very dark scene then the elite has the upper hand but only in the sweat spot. The color and saturation of the vt is much better. The motion on the elite was good but the vt is in another class, I
Have been using the 96hz mode and I love it. The elites light output is much better but I have a dark room and it's a non issue. 1080p content looks cleaner on the vt to me but 1080i content looked sharper on the elite but not much. The 3d on the vt in 60hz mode is not very good but in 48hz it has less crosstalk then the elite and the motion is much better but the light output on the elite is great for 3d. All in all Im very happy about my choice going to the vt.
That's why I kept my vt50 over getting the Elite. The Elite is too flawed for its price tag, in my opinion.
post #5395 of 13460
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

First the bad news, It is now back to $1200 and has been there's for a few days now.
The good news is that I got mine at $850. Now I have to agree with your assessment of the video 100%. I too find crap to still look like crap. But this little wonder does in fact make for sharper quality content. I still think the vt50 does a great job of producing a very clean and true picture. With that said, I do prefer the sharper look that the 818 provides. But it is not without some minor drawbacks. I am sure you have noticed that text is a bit jaggy even when edge enhance is on low. I assume that is what you are using. If I am mistaken and you are not using edge enhance at all, I would have to scratch my head a bit, as I do not see a difference in pq with it off even with noise reduction on. So I would love to hear what your settings are.
But yeah, the video capabilities of this unit are top shelf and am very glad I returned the green duo. I think any TV out there would benefit from this gem. Not to mention the audio quality is sublime.

Yes, I agree. I am using the edge enhancer and mosq NR at low, however I do not get any jaggy text fortunately, or maybe I am not as critical of a viewer. But even to my eyes and my limited budget, getting the VP in the NR818 alone would have paid for the cost. With regards to the current pricing, I think that is a temporary hike, we should be seeing street prices of around 850 pretty soon.
post #5396 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Rashid81 View Post

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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

First the bad news, It is now back to $1200 and has been there's for a few days now.
The good news is that I got mine at $850. Now I have to agree with your assessment of the video 100%. I too find crap to still look like crap. But this little wonder does in fact make for sharper quality content. I still think the vt50 does a great job of producing a very clean and true picture. With that said, I do prefer the sharper look that the 818 provides. But it is not without some minor drawbacks. I am sure you have noticed that text is a bit jaggy even when edge enhance is on low. I assume that is what you are using. If I am mistaken and you are not using edge enhance at all, I would have to scratch my head a bit, as I do not see a difference in pq with it off even with noise reduction on. So I would love to hear what your settings are.
But yeah, the video capabilities of this unit are top shelf and am very glad I returned the green duo. I think any TV out there would benefit from this gem. Not to mention the audio quality is sublime.

Yes, I agree. I am using the edge enhancer and mosq NR at low, however I do not get any jaggy text fortunately, or maybe I am not as critical of a viewer. But even to my eyes and my limited budget, getting the VP in the NR818 alone would have paid for the cost. With regards to the current pricing, I think that is a temporary hike, we should be seeing street prices of around 850 pretty soon.

Yeah, it is an excellent value for both VP and audio capabilities. I am still getting to know it, but having a blast. Enjoy, and thanks for the update.
post #5397 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Gas0linE View Post

Sounds very promising! My 65" arrives Thursday! Can't wait. I have to pick up some 3D glasses today or tomorrow.

Gas, I used both the Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU and the Samsung SSG-4100 when I had my VT50 and I actually preferred the Samsungs. I thought they were a little lighter and more comfortable above my ears, and not to mention, they're only $20.00 a pair. I even wear prescription glasses and didn't find the Samsungs troublesome at all. Just a heads up in case you weren't sure which glasses to get.
post #5398 of 13460
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Gas, I used both the Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU and the Samsung SSG-4100 when I had my VT50 and I actually preferred the Samsungs. I thought they were a little lighter and more comfortable above my ears, and not to mention, they're only $20.00 a pair. I even wear prescription glasses and didn't find the Samsungs troublesome at all. Just a heads up in case you weren't sure which glasses to get.

Nice! I may just do that. The only thing I did not like about the Samsung's were they did not block my view from the side. Do the Panasonic ones do a better job of immersing you into the action because it blocks your side view?
post #5399 of 13460
I'm so torn between this set and the ES8000- I shouldn't have to choose between the risk of Clouding and the risk of IR when I'm spending $3k!!!
post #5400 of 13460
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Originally Posted by Gas0linE View Post

Nice! I may just do that. The only thing I did not like about the Samsung's were they did not block my view from the side. Do the Panasonic ones do a better job of immersing you into the action because it blocks your side view?
I have a pair of both 3D glasses types, and for me the blocking doesn't help much since its best to view 3D in a dark environment anyway with a plasma.
There is less frame to see in your peripheral vision with the Samsung glasses, so it would be closer to watching 3D without glasses if that were possible.
A key difference is the Panasonic 3D glasses have a USB rechargeable battery inside, while the lower cost Samsung glasses have a replaceable cheap coin battery. If you get the Samsung, you can get a low price pack of 5 of the coin batteries for a little over a $1 on ebay or amazon, where in stores they are almost that much for just one!
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