Official Panasonic VT50 owners thread - Page 189

David Evans
http://www.21stcc-isf.com/

He seems highly qualified....Hes calibrated 40+ of the st50 and at least 20 vt50's
His bio is impressive.......

Anyhow if the ISFday mode is not used to much by many then I may be content to get the ST50
Edited by stuckinSoregon - 8/13/12 at 1:12pm

Lots of night time movies gonna watch alot of daytime football and of course night football.
My room is medium brightness with no direct sunlight....

An ISFnight calibration might suit me well....Can I turn up the brightness or contrast without greatly throwing off the calibration??

With lights off


With lights on

Edited by stuckinSoregon - 8/13/12 at 1:02pm

You mean David Evans, don't you?

From the reports I receive from those who get Professionals calibration with both a Night and Day settings, many (a tad over half) do actually switch when needed

Thankyou I edited that post

I haven't been able to locate Doug Evans here at AVS. Can you ask if he has an AVS user name? He certainly seems qualified and I feel like I've run into comments about his work.

EDIT: Now that I know Doug Evans is David Evans, I also know why I've run into reports about his work.

As for having a set calibrated for two major lighting conditions, that's in big part a personal choice. Our 8G Kuro has been calibrated for very dim lighting, which is how we watch movies. It's fine with the lights on for sports like football and the Olympics. At some point during the closing ceremonies last night, I turned off the living room lights which is how we watch movies. Vivid colors are stronger under those circumstances, but I never think of doing that during sports events.
Edited by htwaits - 8/13/12 at 1:13pm

^^^

His AVS is David Evans

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1059491/signature-elite-141-owners-thread/3090#post_16494492

I think a calibration in lighting slightly dimmer then the following picture will make for a great picture....
BTW the plasma you see sitting on the stand is a 42'' 2008 panny plasma...Looking forward to putting a 55'' up thier

It doesn't look like you will have to deal with reflections which is a problem if the windows are in front of the display. I would be bothered by having a big bright window off the right of the display. But, if you live around Portland, maybe it will be overcast for most of the football season.

You can vary contrast any time you want for additional brightness. Just return the setting to it's calibrated value in the evening.

Here is another "personal preference" so take it for what it's worth. I don't see a sound system in your pictures. That would tempt me to get a bigger ST50 display and a 5.1 sound system. Then I would have them both calibrated at the same time.

Great information...
Yeah i live in Medford Oregon 30miles from cali border. It will be cloudy majority of the winter and or foggy

If I get the ST50 plasma that would allow me to spend some money on a sound system...
As you can see in the following photo I would not be able to setup any speakers behind the couch..
and the room is longer on one end so that side speaker would be mounted further away from the couches
likely needing its volume adjusted up....
I do believe if I get somone over to the house who knows how to calibrate a sound system its very doable...

thanks for letting me think out loud here...

I would send pictures to David and see what he thinks.

I've used surround speakers on pedestals (best), hung from the ceiling, and mounted in the ceiling. My wife likes the last one best. Of course you need attic access for the ceiling mounts. Part of calibrating audio is to balance the volume of each speakers so that the audio reaches your location at the same time.

You might want to check out the audio threads here at AVS.

I have image retention (Burn-in?) from Netflix subtitles .. When running scrolling bar, i don't notice them against pure white background but they barely show up in some commercial with slightly cloudy white background. I am hoping it will go away over time.

I watch a lot of foreign films, fortunately most subs are not displayed in the black boxes but some are and NF is usually bad about that. I watched my extended Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (about 3 hrs of subs) and could easily make out IR from them afterwards, the wife and kids were home with the TV on all day the following day and when I got home that night it was gone.

I mostly use Day. I am seldom up much past sundown. On the rare occasion that I am I will use Night as Day will burn your eyeballs out.

Just a quick note that It's been three weeks since I got the TV and I am blown away by the PQ during the night, which is 90% of my viewing time.

Daytime is not good for viewing the TV but that is because my apartment is very bright and I don't have darkout curtains yet. I was aware of the limitations though and even without dark-out curtains, find that the TV under THX-bright setting or vibrant mode is adequate.

My prior TV was a 46 Samsung LCD purchased nearly five years back. It was and is still wonderful but I am stunned with the realistic PQ of the vt50 and thrilled t that I can watch it from any angle (which I can't with the LCD unless it was set in a 'dynamic' view mode)..

I have it wall mounted and for some reason don't find it 'big' enough.

I use THX-bright during the day and either THX or Cinema (default setting tweaked a bit) during the night. My Samsung was calibrated by a professional and I am embarassed to admit that I stopped using that setting after a point because it was so dull and dark! Since the current THX and Cinema setting by itself is so nice to my eyes, I decided to hold off on any calibration. I do however use one taken from here as a 'custom' setting but I barely use it.

No buzz or burn-in so far even though my only strategy to break-in was to keep changing the channel every 15-20 minutes.

Feel like I have just scratched the tip of the iceberg when I see the plethora of options in the TV. It forces me now to consider replacing my basic and perfectly adequate home-theater receiver and speakers. Oh my...never realized that this TV could spur more purchases. Let's see.

Thanks to every single member who posted their thoughts and shared their insights. Greatly appreciate it.

Here's looking forward for a long and enjoying five years with the Panny.

I get image retention all the time when I watch stations with logos or time displayed,when I do notice it I run the scrolling bar and it always goes away.

Ive read that the vt50 uses the same technology pioneer used to craft the kuro? Someone also told me panasonic is using pioneer technology in their current line of plasmas, can anyone confirm this?

Yes, ive read multiple sources that say panadonic "borrowed" some of the tech that was found in the kuro and also improved it when making the vt50.

Wishful thinking to hype and sell more Panasonic' s.
Hiring ex employes from another company is not he same buying the rights to own the tech.
Sharp did buy from Pioneer including the ELITE name and who knows what else.

From what i read sharp got the rights to the elite brand name for their lcds. Panasonic got their plasma technology though and that was baught by panadonic.

With all due respect the top Panny is no Kuro.

and Sharp Elite is no Pioneer Elite

You do not have Burn-In. Burn-In is a previously displayed image that will never go away.

What you're seeing is Image Retention and it will go away with normal viewing as long as you very the kinds of material that you watch. Anyone who watched a whole evening of the Olympics probably noticed the NBC logo if they happened to watch the right sort of programming after the Olympics. Anyone who watched nothing but the Olympics, for the entire two weeks, is more likely to notice the NBC logo before it's removed by a mix of new source material.

If you ignore it, you'll be a lot happier, and your TV will go on to other things. In almost five years I've never noticed IR on our display.

Hi gang,

Just took the plunge last night ordered the 65VT50 from the Panny EPP. So excited. For those of you who ordered from Panny Direct EPP, how did the unit get shipped and how long didn't take? I have never ordered from the EPP before.

Greg

Can't ignore their financial condition and what it means for Pioneer and the patents.

http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/108/16/79924.html

I'm sure the VT50 uses some of Kuro's secrets. Is there any source that may confirm this? I've read some sources that say the VT50 has some of the Kuro technology in it and that's why it is so good. Is anything official on this subject?

I have to say I am floored by my VT50, The picture is nothing short of breathtaking. Besides the slightly better black levels on the kuro, how else is it better than the VT50? CNET said other than the black level being a little better, its very close.

Nobody can confirm. But the filter alone screams kuro. I am not sure what else could be implemented. Aside from slightly lesser blacks (which doesn't at all bother me) I prefer my vt50 over my Kuro all day long.

You do own/owned both to back up that claim I assume? I fit that bill and definitely don't find painting a picture of some large divide in performance to be at all accurate.

Given that this is my first plasma and screen size that is > 42", I am not sure that the "noise" I sometimes see over my FiOS viewing has to do with the TV or the supplier. If the content is say a Pixar film on HBO HD, the content looks like I'm watching a blu ray. However, sometimes I see less clarity in channels (still HD channels) when viewing a non-animated movie on HBO HD. Is this normal and is there anyway to "clear up" the content? I noticed the settings such as Mosquito, etc offer to do this but most Custom modes posted here have those settings switched to off. Would they help or hurt the PQ? Thanks guys.